Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

Every decision we make has lots of baggage with it, known or unknown.

“In this country American means white. everybody else has to hyphenate.”

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

How stupid are these people?

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

This really is a full service blog.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Human rights are not a matter of opinion!

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

Jesus watching the most hateful people claiming to be his followers

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Decision time: keep arguing about the last election, or try to win the next one?

You would normally have to try pretty hard to self-incriminate this badly.

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  5. 5.

    Amir Khalid

    Malaysia’s daily Covid-19 numbers. The Ministry of Health reports 1,208 new cases today for a cumulative reported total of 47,417 cases. The Ministry also reports three new deaths for a total of 309 deaths — 0.7% of the cumulative reported total, 0.88% of resolved cases.

    Meanwhile, 1,013 patients recovered and were discharged, for a total of 34,785 patients recovered — 73.4% of the cumulative reported total.

    While daily new cases in Sabah are on a stable downward trend, the Ministry says it is particularly concerned about the Klang Valley — Selangor, KL, and Putrajaya — where a total of 661 new cases were reported today.

    Three new clusters were reported today: Jeri in Johor; and Jalan Kalabakan and Plaza in Sabah.

    1,202 new cases are local infections. KL has the most new cases, 469: 462 in existing clusters, two close-contact screenings, and five other screenings. Sabah has 381 cases: 53 in older clusters, 14 in new clusters Plaza and Jalan Kalabakan,191 close-contact screenings, and 123 other screenings. Selangor has 185 cases: 132 in existing clusters, 24 close-contact screenings, and 29 other screenings. Negeri Sembilan has 48 cases: 39 in existing clusters, seven close-contact screenings, one SARI screening, and one other screening. Perak has 21cases: eight in existing clusters, six close-contact screenings, and seven other screenings.

    P.Pinang has 42 cases: 37 in existing clusters, 3 close-contact screenings, one SARI screening, and one other screening. Labuan has 30 cases: 19 in existing clusters, 9 close-contact screenings, one SARI screening, and one other screening. Johor has nine cases: three in new cluster Jeri, one SARI screening, and five other screenings. Kedah has eight cases, all in existing clusters.

    Sarawak has four cases: three in existing clusters, and one other screening. Melaka has two cases: one in an existing cluster, and one close-contact screening. Kelantan has one case, a close-contact screening. Putrajaya has one case, found in other screening. And Perlis has one case in an existing cluster.

    Terengganu and Pahang reported no new cases today.

    Six new cases are imported.

    12,323 active and contagious cases are currently in hospital; 104 are in ICU, 42 of them on respirators.

    The three deaths today, all reported in Sabah, are an eight-year-old girl; a 77-year-old man with hypertension, heart disease, and kidney disease; and a 63-year-old woman with diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease.

  7. 7.

    NeenerNeener

    Down to 160 new cases in Monroe County, NY yesterday. Not great, but better than the 300-a-day cases we had during the week.

  8. 8.

    OzarkHillbilly

    “I don’t want to catch it. But if I get it, I get it. That’s just how I feel.”

    “Who cares if I pass it on to a dozen other people and 3 of them end up in ICU and one of them dies. It’s not my problem.”

  9. 9.

    satby

    And then they stop yelling at you when they get intubated. It’s like a fucking horror movie that never ends.

    It will be a miracle if we manage to keep the hospitals staffed until the pandemic ends, between the abuse they take and the loss of health care workers to the disease. My friend, a nurse at the UIC hospital, said she can’t imagine why anyone would even become a nurse when this is over. And Chicago isn’t even a hotbed of covidiots.

  10. 10.

    satby

    @OzarkHillbilly: I hear the “if I get it I get it” routine every single day at the market. They honestly think they won’t; or still think they’ll be asymptomatic if they do. And they refuse to think they could spread it, because how could they if they don’t feel sick?

    That’s their decision tree. Oh, and they’re mad that business is terrible because the news media is terrorizing people. Not because there’s reasons why people might stay home.

    I really get why the smart rural kids get the fuck out as soon as they can.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @satby: Around here, there is a difference between last spring and now. The Franklin/Crawford/Washington counties area are getting hit hard and people are taking it a lot more seriously. Mask usage is at 90-95% and people are acting… different. Hard to say exactly how but they are a lot quieter, subdued. Of course, maybe that is just the election.

    I also recently heard someone say, “I don’t understand why it’s so bad. Everyone is wearing masks now.” so there is still some magical thinking going on, the desire for a magic bullet.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    Contact tracers are doing urgent work to contain the pandemic and save lives. There ought to be a law against refusing to cooperate with them. Penalties should include jail time and a fine.

  15. 15.

    hells littlest angel

    “I don’t want to catch it. But if I get it, I get it. That’s just how I feel.”

     

    A lot of words to say, “I’m stupid.”

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    On a personal note, I found out what happened to my long time Nurse Practitioner: She had a massive stroke. Completely paralyzed on her left side. They opened up her head to get at the clot and then closed her up again and said, “There’s nothing we can do.” because of all the plaque there. R is the last person one would expect this to happen too. Ate right, exercised daily, yadda yadda you know the drill.

    Sometimes you just get a bad hand dealt to you.

  18. 18.

    TS (the original)

    Trump has all but ceased to actively manage the Covid pandemic,

    Begosh – trump never started to actively manage the covid pandemic – so how can anyone say he has “all but ceased:

  20. 20.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Eating healthy and exercising are never a guarantee – they are simply statistically more likely to lead to positive health outcomes. Conversely, the conservatives who say “uncle whoozits smoked two packs a day and ate bacon with eggs fried in bacon grease every morning until he dropped dead on his 93rd birthday” are referencing someone  who beat the statistic.

  21. 21.

    TS (the original)

    @Amir Khalid:

    Penalties should include jail time and a fine.

    No way that is going to get past the SCOTUS appeals, which would be instant. Given the latest speech from Alito – this is against the rights of the people.

    He who is 100% protected in his job, has never missed a days pay, is going to uphold the rights of those who want to see a fast spreading virus rather than answer a few questions.

  22. 22.

    YY_Sima Qian

    Yesterday, China reported 0 new domestic confirmed and 0 new asymptomatic cases.
    In Xinjiang “Autonomous “ Region, 4 cases have recovered and 24 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation. There are currently 35 confirmed cases (none in serious condition), all in Kashgar, and 187 asymptomatic cases in Xinjiang (175 in Kashgar and 12 in Kizilsu).
    Yesterday, China reported 13 new imported confirmed cases and 6 imported asymptomatic cases and 1 imported suspect case:

    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 3 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the Congo (Kinshasa), Iran and the Philippines
    • Kunming in Yunnan Province – 3 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), 2 Chinese nationals returning from Indonesia and a Burmese national coming from Myanmar
    • Tianjin Municipality – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from France and Guinea (via Paris CdG)
    • Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 2 confirmed cases,
    • Shanghai Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from the Spain; 1 suspect case, no information released
    • Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), no information released
    • Wuhan in Hubei Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Indonesia
    • Nanjing in Jiangsu Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Shenyang in Liaoning Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Germany
    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Russia
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Kenya, the case had arrived at Guangzhou in mid-Oct., passed through 2 weeks of quarantine there and tested negative, after returning to Chengdu at the end of Oct., he went into mandatory home quarantine and tested positive at the end of the quarantine period
    • Nanning in Guangxi Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from overseas, no further information released


    Yesterday, Hong Kong reported 14 new cases, 9 imported and 5 from local transmission (4 have source of transmission identified).

  25. 25.

    Frankensteinbeck

    Copied from downstairs, about the angry patient story:

    Even before Trump, conservatism was an angry whine by white bigots that they are no longer the norm, catered to in all ways.  They were furious then that they are wrong about so many things, and demanded to be treated as if they were right.  That is the entire anti-science thing, ‘how dare you contradict us, the chosen ones.’  Of course they are enraged when they catch it.  Life is contradicting them again, and they are demanding their doctors and nurses admit they’re right and the facts are wrong.

  28. 28.

    JoyceH

    Time Magazine says:

    The political coronavirus paradox: where the virus was worst, voters supported Trump the most

    It’s not a paradox at all. They just stated it backwards. If you say, ‘where voters support Trump the most, the virus is worse’, it makes perfect sense. Heck, it’s cause and effect.

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    FYI. 85%, while disappointing, is above the average compliance for the state as a whole. Getting the sloppy or uninformed group into proper use would up that to 91%, which is enocuraging.

    Maui Police issued 264 citations for face mask violations over a two week period between Oct. 30 and Nov. 12. County officials say 209 were issued to residents and 55 were to visitors.

    Off duty police officers have been working on a task force specifically aimed at face mask enforcement.
    [snip]

    For the week ending Nov. 7, Maui County has had an 85 percent mask wearing compliance rate. ]Maui Managing Director Sandy] Baz said 6 percent were wearing their mask incorrectly and 9 percent had no mask at all. “Really, we’re doing better at wearing masks,” said Baz, noting that the goal is to get to 100 percent compliance. Source

    Can report anecdotally it has consistently been 100%, across all age groups, at the places I happen to go when venturing out of the house.

  31. 31.

    AM in NC

    @OzarkHillbilly: That needs to be the follow-up question EVERY “reporter” asks.  Because I really do think most of these people have not given one second of thought to that possibility because NOBODY in their info bubble talks about that – everything is framed in terms of “MY individual liberty”. And we need something to penetrate that message to get them to think about themselves as potential vectors rather than potential victims.  Because while some won’t care, some surely will.

    I was running on a path near my house a few weeks ago without a mask but I pulled my shirt up over my nose and mouth (and detoured well off the path) when a lady talking on her phone walked by me in the other direction.  When I did that she started laughing and said to the person on the phone that some crazy person just ran by scared to death and pulled up her shirt – hahahahahah!    So I stopped, and shouted out to her “Ma’am, I pulled my shirt up because I don’t know if I have COVID – I haven’t been tested and a significant percentage of people never show any symptoms, they just pass the disease around unawares.  I couldn’t live with myself if I gave this illness to you. So that’s why I pulled my shirt up.  I really could not live with myself if I made other people sick and they died, or someone they loved died. ” She got silent, clearly brought up short by something that had not entered her pea brain before, and I ran on.

    Information bubbles are a hell of a thing.

  32. 32.

    Emma from FL

    I am tired of these people. Let them die if they want to. Screw them.

    And I just lost my good human badge. But it is so exhausting to keep trying to protect me and mine against a horde of imbeciles.

  33. 33.

    WereBear

    @satby:

    I really get why the smart rural kids get the fuck out as soon as they can.

     
    That is the real price these areas pay. I’ve seen parents deliberately undercut their children’s prospects, all so they don’t leave.

  34. 34.

    marklar

    I appreciate the German PSA, but do want to point out one concern.  For people with mental health challenges, isolation and lack of activity can be extremely difficult and damaging.

    I’m not quite sure what the alternative is right now (I’d suggest part of the next stimulus plan start by providing communication devices (e.g., chromebooks) and wifi to everyone in the country), but I wouldn’t want to diminish the challenges faced by many of us.

  35. 35.

    oldster

    @marklar:

    I’d like to register another objection to the German PSA: it unfairly slanders raccoons for laziness, when in fact, they are extremely industrious. Also inventive, persistent, focused, and brilliant with their hands. Just ask anyone who has tried to keep them out of the trash.

    I cannot imagine why raccoons would become a byword for laziness in German, except perhaps because they are not native to Europe, and the Germans were fed anti-raccoon propaganda.

     

    Otherwise, great ad!

  36. 36.

    MagdaInBlack

    @WereBear: I’m 62 and never made that connection, but yes, thinking back, thats exactly what my MIL did: undercut her kids so they wouldn’t leave. Mindboggling, isn’t it.

  37. 37.

    Skepticat

    @OzarkHillbilly: R is the last person one would expect this to happen too.

    When I lived in Massachusetts, I had a terrific doctor, a Russian woman who was an excellent diagnostician. When I turned 50, she encouraged me to get a colonoscopy, but I put it off. When I turned 51, she really pushed me to do it, so I did. They found colon cancer at such an early stage that only minimal surgery was necessary—and successful. Three years later, this superb doctor died. Of colon cancer.

  40. 40.

    Sloane Ranger

    Yesterday in the UK we had 26,860 new cases, down 450 or so from the previous day but please note the usual weekend warning. In the 7 days to 14th November we had 172,915 new cases, up 8.2% from the previous 7 days. Yesterday’s new cases were,

    England – 24,298 (down @250)

    Northern Ireland – 511 (down @100)

    Scotland – 1118 (down @250)

    Wales – 933 (up @130).

    The R number remains at 1 to 1.2.

    Deaths – There were 462 deaths yesterday, 396 in England, 10 in Northern Ireland, 36 in Scotland and 20 in Wales. This number may be low due to weekend reporting delays.

    Testing – No update on testing numbers due to weekend.

    Hospitalisations – There were 14,915 people in hospital on 12th November and 1355 on ventilators as of 13th. Both metrics are trending upwards but the rate of increase in the use of ventilators seems to have flattened a bit.

    That’s all from here.

  41. 41.

    Citizen Alan

    @WereBear:  I’m 51, and I am intensely bitter over the emotional manipulations that my immediate family made over the course of my life to keep me from leaving Mississippi.

  42. 42.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Citizen Alan: I’m feeling kind of dumb right now, because I naively believed/told myself they were just stupid, but I can see the manipulations, now its pointed out to me. Now I despise those people all over again. It also explains so many of my old friends who never left. We were discouraged from college, encouraged to marry early and have babies, told we couldn’t make it on our own, never exposed to any other way of life. Im disgusted now.

  43. 43.

    CliosFanBoy

    @WereBear:  I remember hearing back in college (late 70s) a girl from rural WV saying one of her teachers telling the students they were lucky not to be smart because smart people have so many problems. GAD>

  44. 44.

    VOR

    In October the MAGAs complained the media would stop talking about COVID after the election. They felt COVID was not real, deaths were lies or exaggerated, and the whole thing was a conspiracy to attack the Great Leader. Now, after the election, they still won’t admit COVID is a serious issue because it would call their entire worldview into question. The Great Leader lied about it? That’s impossible, he always tells the truth, only the MSM lies. The meme on Facebook was wrong? Can’t be. Fox News actively misleading? No way, they are the only network which tells the truth.

    Acceptance of being wrong is just too hard so they double-down.

  46. 46.

    MagdaInBlack

    @CliosFanBoy: We had a guidance counselor who felt women only went to college to get their Mrs. When I said I wished to study history, he told me that unless I wished to teach, there wasnt much point in studying that.

    Actively discouraging people from improving themselves.

  48. 48.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Emma from FL: I am tired of these people. Let them die if they want to. Screw them.

    Hate to break it to ya but Virus don’t care how tired you are; Virus never gets tired.

    And I just lost my good human badge. But it is so exhausting to keep trying to protect me and mine against a horde of imbeciles.

    Virus don’t care about your “good human badge” either. Or your “horde of imbeciles.”

    Those “imbeciles” have two things going for them that all your railing at them won’t change:

    1. Each one of them over the age of 18 has exactly the same number of votes as you
    2. Each one of them is just as capable of contracting, sickening from, dying from, hosting and transmitting Miz Rona as you

    Ignoring fact #1 very nearly got us another 4 years of Hair Furor and the destruction of American democracy for generations, when we went out of our way to mock and deride and generally piss them off & they got back at us with their votes.

    Ignoring fact #2 bids fair to keep Miz Rona an unwelcome guest in these parts for years longer than needs to be.

    We are our brothers’ & sisters’ keepers and we need to start (or keep) acting like it, no matter how little we like it, because it’s the only way out of the current mishegoss without major longlasting damage to the body politic.

    @WereBear: @satby: “I really get why the smart rural kids get the fuck out as soon as they can.”

    That is the real price these areas pay. I’ve seen parents deliberately undercut their children’s prospects, all so they don’t leave.

    The best part of small-town/rural life is that everybody you know knows you. And the worst part of small-town/rural life is – that everybody you know knows you. You come complete with a history stretching right back to birth, & often several generations before; and you will never, ever, ever be allowed to live down anything you (or your kinfolk or their ancestors) have done or said that displeased or (heaven forbid!) challenged the few people in charge.

    The only way out is to get out & find a place where you can prosper & grow based on who you are now, not what your bloodline was back into dim antiquity. And when you do so you are resented forever by the “folks back home” who never had the gumption to leave; you were spozeta stay right there & stand still while the-powers-that-be mistreat you for their own profit & amusement.

    (NB I write as the descendant of two generations with the gumption to move on in search of a better life: grandparents who abandoned Italy for the US at the turn of the Novecento, and parents who left coal-dusted Appalachia for the factories of Baltimore forty years on.)

  49. 49.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Uncle Cosmo: That last part is exactly why I ran away after my husband died: to escape the expectations of who I was. To be anonymous. To be able to make mistakes without every fn person in the county knowing it.

  50. 50.

    Sloane Ranger

    @MagdaInBlack: I don’t know your age but I’m 62 and, to be fair, this wasn’t just a problem in rural America. It was common in the UK when I was at school and only started changing with the passing of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, and then only slowly.

    The assumption up to then was that women would get married and leave the workforce to “make a home” for their husband and eventual children so why “waste a university place on them?”. This was true of parents as well as some teachers because that was the way it had always been.

    I was lucky, I went to an all girls school and our Headmistress was an Oxford graduate and her Deputy a very strong minded and opinionated woman . They pushed back on those assumptions and encouraged us to achieve whatever we were capable of, but I subsequently learned of other schools where girls who expressed an interest in medicine were pushed into nursing rather than medical school and into teacher training schools rather than university.

  51. 51.

    MagdaInBlack

    @Sloane Ranger: I’m 62, and I think its referred to as “tracking.” Im sure someone here can tell me if I’m correct or not. All the women I knew who worked outside the home were either teachers or nurses.

  52. 52.

    Scout211

    Late to this thread but I wanted to give a heads up to anyone who has a retired military or retired military dependent ID card.  I was panicking last month because my dependent card is expiring in December and there were zero appointments available. Anywhere.  We already have to drive over an hour to the closest military facility and almost 2 hours to Travis AFB, the closest base to where we live.  My military dependent ID card is also my Medicare supplement and Part D card, so I was in a panic.

    It took me a long time, searching through military sites to finally find out that if your card expires in 2020, it will be automatically extended to June 30, 2021.  This is the second time it has been extended but the first time I had heard about it.

    I don’t know why this was so hard to find out. It was frustrating.  But finding out I have another 6 months was a big relief.

    And I wonder if the bases are having a high incidence of cases?

  53. 53.

    Emma from FL

    @Uncle Cosmo: Well, thank you for lecturing me instead of seeing it for the cry of despair it was. You, sir, have the sensitive of an Everglades alligator. And I speak as someone that is a first generation seeker of freedom.

  54. 54.

    evodevo

    @MagdaInBlack: Welcome to Appalachian America (eastern Ky, especially).  That is standard behavior there…anyone who made it out to the real world and got a good job and has a normal life will get slagged every time they go back to the hometown for a visit…”Well, here’s Mr. Bigshot, comin’ back to town in his fancy car”  or, and this was said to a girl who escaped to Lexington and went to Med School, “yer gettin’ above yer raisin’ “.   I’ve see it in action…

  55. 55.

    Kathleen

    @evodevo:  A dear friend of mine who’s my age (71) was raised in Vanceburg and has described that same oppression when she was growing up. She escaped, graduated from college and had a long career as a teacher. She lives in Cincinnati now.

  56. 56.

    Chetan Murthy

    @CliosFanBoy:

    they were lucky not to be smart because smart people have so many problems.

    Oh god, yes.  I remember similar shit from my high school classmates and even my friends, in the late 70s in Texas.  Insularity and anti-intellectualism.  At least some of my teachers didn’t have that attitude, but geez, it seemed to me like the heartland was *full* of anti-intellectual closed-minded morons.

  58. 58.

    Bruce K

    How’s it go – positive COVID cases lag by two weeks, COVID deaths lag by three?

    In Greece, the northern regional lockdown hit about two weeks ago (the spiking cases led to the national lockdown a week ago, and to the stricter national curfew this past Friday), and new cases today have dropped by almost half from yesterday’s (from 2835 to 1695) even as deaths hit a new high (71 today).

    It’s still looking ugly. My family’s safe in the islands – most island jurisdictions are safe, and will probably remain safe with regional travel restrictions in place. But Attica’s in bad shape – not quite as bad as northern Greece, but that’s only relative.

  60. 60.

    J R in WV

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Sorry to hear about your medic, R. Sometimes it really is shocking when someone dies and you learn of it. When my cousin died of ovarian cancer I was especially shocked because she was younger than I… Her brothers are also both gone now too.

    Sorry for your loss, I know how it feels. A physical shock.

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