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  2. 2.

    NeenerNeener

    302 new cases in Monroe County, NY yesterday. They aren’t updating the hospitalization or death stats until Monday. If this is all from Halloween I shudder to think what the combo of Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years Eve is going to bring.

  3. 3.

    Amir Khalid

    Malaysia’s daily Covid-19 numbers. The Ministry of Health reports 1,096 new cases today, for a cumulative reported total of 54,775 cases. The Ministry also reports three new deaths for a total of 335 deaths — 0.61% of the cumulative reported total, 0.80% of resolved cases.

    12,843 active and contagious cases are currently in hospital; 106 are in ICU, 46 of them on respirators. Meanwhile, 1,104 patients recovered and were discharged, for a total of 41,597 patients recovered — 75.9% of the cumulative reported total.

    Three new clusters were reported today: Pengkalan Barat in Penang and Perak, Bakti in Negeri Sembilan, and  Bayam Indah in Kedah.

    1,090 new cases are local infections. Selangor again has the most cases, 602: 536 in existing clusters including 504 in Teratai cluster alone, 27 close-contact screenings, and 39 other screenings. Sabah has 311 cases: 58 in existing clusters, 130 close-contact screenings, and 114 other screenings. Perak has 55 cases: 44 in older clusters, one in Pengkalan Barat cluster, seven close-contact screenings, and three other screenings.

    Negeri Sembilan has 29 cases: 12 in older clusters, 16 in Bakti cluster, and one close-contact screening. KL has 26 cases: nine in existing clusters, six close-contact screenings, and 11 other screenings. Kedah has 16 cases: seven in older clusters, five in Bayam Indah cluster, one close-contact screening, and three other screenings. Penang has 15 cases: 12 in existing clusters, one close-contact screening, and two other screenings. Labuan has 13 cases: 12 in existing clusters, and one other screening.

    Johor has eight cases: six in existing clusters, and two other screenings. Kelantan has eight cases: seven in existing clusters, and one other screening. Melaka has five cases: two in existing clusters, and three other screenings. Putrajaya has one case, a close-contact screening. And Perlis has one case, found in other screening.

    Pahang, Sarawak, and Terengganu have reported no new cases today.

    Six new cases are imported, one reported in Selangor, one in Johor, and four in KL. No information on countries of departure.

    The three deaths today, all reported in Sabah, are a 68-year-old man with hypertension and stroke; a 90-year-old man with stroke, dyslipidaemia and cardiac arrhythmia; and an 80-year-old non-Malaysian woman.

  4. 4.

    mrmoshpotato

    It’s like politicizing toilet paper. A mask is a basic hygienic measure

    Great way to put it.

  5. 5.

    WereBear

    It’s not that I’m cheerful about this. But some of my anxiety has ebbed as I realize I can’t fix stupid.

    I can only take steps to protect my immediate circle and be grateful my immediate circle is making sensible decisions.

    Sort of settling in for even more mayhem, but you just never get used to it.

  7. 7.

    AndoChronic

    @WereBear: The Serenity Prayer and gratitude help me push in my parasympathetic clutch as well. Taking up smoking again has helped too. That’s probably just a deep breathing and control issue thing for me though!

  8. 8.

    Frankensteinbeck

    When one whole political party’s core message is “Fuck you.” including “Fuck you for contradicting us.” and especially “Fuck you for forcing me to not hurt others.” then mask wearing in a pandemic is very much political.

  9. 9.

    ant

    @NeenerNeener: 
    If this is all from Halloween I shudder to think what the combo of Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years Eve is going to bring.

    Yeah, my thinking is along the same lines. However, we were already at 100k per day before Halloween. Also there was the election right after that. And all the early voting before that.

    I also wonder how big a role of colder temps is having. Seems like it could be a factor with the coldest parts of the US seeing the highest spikes.

    Evolution of the virus must be happening too. Mutations that spread better will propagate to more people. Assumptions about how the virus spreads from the spring/summer, may not be as applicable now in the fall.

    Just some thoughts.

  13. 13.

    p.a.

    1) Loeffler positive.  T&P.  Think she’ll quarantine 2 weeks?

    2) Not a big news-watcher, so hive question: any Any ANY national reporters yakking ‘covid-business-bankruptcy’ pointing out Moscow Mitch sitting on stimulus package(s)? ?

  14. 14.

    Brachiator

    @ant:

    I also wonder how big a role of colder temps is having. Seems like it could be a factor with the coldest parts of the US seeing the highest spikes.

    A BBC News story in the last pandemic update thread noted an increase in infections in Canada and noted two factors. Thanksgiving in Canada happens in October; and more people were congregating indoors because of colder weather.

    Evolution of the virus must be happening too.

    So far there is no firm evidence that mutations are more infectious.

  15. 15.

    WereBear

    @ant:

    I also wonder how big a role of colder temps is having. Seems like it could be a factor with the coldest parts of the US seeing the highest spikes.

    I agree and think it’s a BFD. We adapted our usual “vote and have a meal out” ritual by voting early an hour away, and scouting a place on the way back who would have outdoor dining options. We found a favorite has put big heaters on their patio, and we had a lovely lunch.

    But we suspected people would just move indoors with the colder weather, because I saw that during Labor Day weekend! People wouldn’t take the outdoors until the indoors filled up!

    And the weather was wonderful. I DO NOT get it.

  16. 16.

    SWMBO

    We have vaccines on the horizon that are 95% effective.  What if the 5% is mutations that get stronger?  Or harder to treat?  (same difference, just in perspective.)

  19. 19.

    Amir Khalid

    A question about the lawsuit in Wisconsin  challenging the governor’s authority to impose emergency Covid-19. Doesn’t the state constitution explicitly give him such powers?

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @SWMBO: Far more likely the 5% are people for whom the vaccine did not take because of a suppressed immune system or any of a thousand other reasons, at least half of which we don’t understand or maybe even know of.

  21. 21.

    Brachiator

    If I google “coronavirus US,” the result page notes 256,000 (not 253,000). Either way, hospitalizations and fatalities appear to be increasing at a faster rate than earlier.

    I ignore the total number of cumulative cases. It’s important, but doesn’t help much in understanding what is happening with the current surge. The breakdown of regions, Midwest, West, etc is useful. Even though we desperately need federal guidance, state and regional response might be key to fighting this thing.

    And getting through Thanksgiving is going to be rough.

    California instituted a curfew effective Friday. The last big curfew I remember was after the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.

  22. 22.

    Brachiator

    @SWMBO:

    I recommend the November 14 episode of the BBC Radio 4 program More or Less, about statistics in media. They present a good, brief discussion of what the numbers mean with respect to the effectiveness of the vaccines being developed.

    The program is available as a podcast and online at the BBC site.

  23. 23.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Brachiator: Every covid site has different numbers, I just make sure to track the same ones every time I go looking. I am watching hospitalizations and ICU beds this time around as they appear to be the key metrics.

  24. 24.

    YY_Sima Qian

    Yesterday, China reported 3 new domestic confirmed cases and 0 new asymptomatic cases.

    Manzhouli (on the border with Russia) in Inner Mongolia “Autonomous” Region reporter 2 confirmed cases yesterday, which I had mentioned in yesterday’s comment. The 2 cases are a couple, the husband is a street cleaner and the wife is a nanny. The husband visited fever clinic on 11/20 and tested positive, the wife had accompanied the husband to the hospital, and was tested as well. The source of infection remains unknown. According to local authorities, all Tiers 1 & 2 close contacts have been traced and quarantined (quantity not released), all have tested negative so far. In the meantime, Manzhouli is re-designated as Medium risk, schools are moved online, all non-essential businesses closed, flight and train services into and out of the city stopped, and all residents will be tested in the next 2 – 3 days.

    Shanghai reporter 1 new confirmed case, a coworker of the UPS worker at Pudong International Airport, who had tested positive on 11/19. The case had been quarantined since that date. 91 Tier 1 close contacts (including 1 in Yangzhou in Neighboring Jiangsu Province) and 213 Tier 2 close contacts of the 2 cases reported on 9/20 have been traced and quarantined, all tested negative so far. 15,416 regular contacts and at risk individuals have been identified and tested, 1 tested positive, the aforementioned case reported yesterday.

    The mass screening of the 2.6M residents and workers continues at Binhai New District in Tianjin Municipality. As of 11 AM today, 1,701,753 individuals have been swabbed. One of the 4 cases reported on 11/20 had traveled to Hangzhou and Ningbo in Zhejiang Province, as well as Suzhou in Jiangsu Province, in early Nov. The has kicked off contact tracing efforts at these places, as well. So far, all known contacts have tested positive. Tianjin Municipal Health Commission reported that genomic analysis of several cases in the recent cluster show that the sequences are all nearly identical to the initial dock worker that tested positive on 11/10 (a strain prevalent in Europe), but the specific paths of transmission remain unknown. The cluster of 8 cases divide into 2 groups that live in two different buildings, w/o contact with each other, plus the community worker. All students and staff of the  kindergarten determined to be at risk have been tested, all negative. It turned out that the infected grandparents had been dropping off and picking up the so far negative granddaughter, so the positive environmental samples taken from there might have come form them.

    Yesterday, China reported 14 new imported confirmed cases and 11 imported asymptomatic cases:

     

    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 4 confirmed and 2 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Russia
    • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Japan and Hong Kong
    • Shanghai Municipality – 3 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from the US, and 1 from the UK
    • Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Portugal and Pakistan
    • Beijing Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Pakistan 
    • Tianjin Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Guinea (via Paris CdG)
    • Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from the US; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from India
    • Nanning in Guangxi “Autonomous” Region – 1 confirmed and 2 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from overseas, no further information released 
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese national returning from Ethiopia; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national each returning from Greece
    • Nanning in Jiangsu Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, no information released 
    • Foshan in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Tanzania

    Yesterday, Hong Kong reported 68 new cases, 7 imported and 61 local (12 of whom with out clear sources of infection).

  26. 26.

    Mousebumples

    Mask question and recommendation –

    Just got a Livinguard mask earlier last week and wore it for a (relatively) extended period as I did stock up grocery shopping yesterday. It’s comfortable and I like the elastic under my chin, since I think it gives a tighter seal. It takes some getting used to, but I’m comforted by seeing the fabric “breathe” in and out with me, so I know it’s not sneaking in and out the sides.

    https://livinguard.com/promask/

    Code bubble10 will get you 10%off

    Question – i don’t love the elastic as it has slid over my ears multiple times when i was testing it out around the house. Putting the elastic over a high ponytail was the solution that worked, but I’m wondering if you all have any other suggestions. (i could also switch out the elastic but I’d rather not)

    Thanks!

  29. 29.

    Ksmiami

    @WereBear: I’m with you. If people refuse to take a deadly virus seriously, then you can only protect your inner circle. Thanksgiving; if it plays out like I think will bring untold misery.

  30. 30.

    Mousebumples

    @WereBear: lol, I am complete bobby pin fail, usually, but i can try that. (bobbies never want to stay in my hair)

    The biggest change in my hairstyle is the high ponytail. The mask rides too low if i loop it over my usual ponytail location.

    Thanks for the idea!

  31. 31.

    Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride

    Amir @ 12:  The word “such” is doing heavy lifting in that sentence. You have to look at the exact language of the constitutional provision (if any), then try to anticipate all the creative ways libertarian litigators might try to poke holes in it. Until recently, it was supposedly settled that governors’ authority to make emergency public health regulations was extremely broad because the Supreme Court said so over a century ago, but (Republican) judges all over the country are suddenly finding these sorts of regulations to be unconstitutional usurpations of power if not enacted by (Republican) legislatures.

  32. 32.

    JR

    @SWMBO: 
    The 5% is almost certainly due to variations in patient immune response. But if there is a mutation that evades the vaccine (unlikely), that is what it does. It doesn’t make the virus stronger or weaker or whatever. That’s not how selection works.

  33. 33.

    Tony Jay

    Is Ted Cruz promoting a free turkey giveaway for financially strapped Texans with that “Come and Take It” image? Out of character, certainly, but with Texas getting more and more purple maybe he thinks his 2024 ambitions need a sprinkle of basic humanity to distract from the whiffy odour of being a strong supporter of President Pettygrift’s Ameriklan Dream.

    He couldn’t possibly be trying to display Macho Macho Man manliness by daring those simpering liberals to come prise handfuls of dry, white gizzard from his cold, dead hands could he? That would be frankly laughable.

    Oh, I see.

  34. 34.

    Sloane Ranger

    Yesterday in the UK we had 19,875 new cases. This is a reduction of about 400 from Friday’s figure and the rolling seven day average for new cases is down 13.8%. Cases by home nation –
    England – 17,615 (down @220)
    Northern Ireland – 357 (down @10)
    Scotland – 887 (down @150)
    Wales – 1016 (down 4).

    These figures are for Saturday, so the usual warning about weekend delays in processing are in place. Nevertheless, there does seem to be a downwards trajectory in new cases.

    Deaths – There were 341 new deaths yesterday (usual warning applies). 266 were in England, 10 in Northern Ireland, 37 in Scotland and 28 in Wales.

    Testing – Not updated at weekends.

    Hospitalisations – 16,390 people were in hospital on Thursday, 19th November and 1421 were on ventilators on Friday, 20th.

    General – Boris is to make an announcement tomorrow about what restrictions will be in place in England over Christmas/New Year. Dame Cressida Dick, Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police has already said that her officers won’t be knocking on doors to check if limitations on the size of gatherings are being followed and one Tory MP has said he doesn’t think the Government should try to enforce limitations on numbers for family Christmas dinners as people will ignore them anyway.

    I admit this worries me, the R rate is currently 1.0 to 1.1, which is good, but the number of active cases remain high, so the chances of someone bringing it to the dinner table is high and, even if the Government, just relaxes restrictions for Christmas Day, I would still expect to see an explosion of new cases early in the New Year, ruining all the good work done so far. Since my brother died, I have been going away for Christmas, but this year, I will be cooking something vaguely Christmas dinnerish at home and celebrating alone. My cousin and his wife, who normally go to his nephew’s and has Christmas dinner with his nephew’s family and his sister and her husband will be giving it a miss this year.

  35. 35.

    PaulB

    Thank you to Anne for her ongoing efforts, and to the other commenters here for the highest signal-to-noise ratio discussion on the pandemic that I’ve seen anywhere.

    I’m in awe of Anne’s ability to continue doing this, day in and day out without respite for months, and very grateful to her for the knowledge that I’ve gained as a result.

  36. 36.

    WereBear

    @Mousebumples: bobbies never want to stay in my hair

     

    There’s crossing two bobbies in an ex. I have luck with those kinds of hair clasps with rubbery kinds of teeth. The point is fastening the elastic, which should be easier than fastening hair.

    I speak as someone who has to put their hair up very carefully, lest I get a headache. Even if it’s a headband! Ponytails are RIGHT OUT.

  37. 37.

    Tony Jay

    @Sloane Ranger:

    It’s just depressing, isn’t it? All the gains made under the current (half-arsed) Lockdown potentially flushed away just so the Bullingdon Bully can spin a “BoJo Saves Our Christmas” headline or two.

    Utterly predictable.

    We definately won’t be out and about this Holiday Season. The beer is in, the nibbles are stacked and all I’m waiting for is an an acceptable timeslot for starting the Christmas Movie Marathon. ‘Arthur Christmas’ on Christmas Eve here we come.

  39. 39.

    Gvg

    @Mousebumples: Nurses wear headbands with big buttons on the side to hook the mask too and pull it to the right place for them.

    earlier I considered some cpac straps on amazon to be used for a mask. They often have multiple straps that sort of cradle the back of the head and go both up and down, so that the cpac stays in place. I found some that had Velcro ends that I thought would attack to the ear loops.

    most masks for me want to slide too low as my the back of my head is narrower than the best place for mask holding and also my ears are too low….

  40. 40.

    WereBear

    @Gvg:

    most masks for me want to slide too low as my the back of my head is narrower than the best place for mask holding and also my ears are too low….

     
    I have concluded that masks, like so much else in society, were made for males. And females just have to adapt.

  41. 41.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Tony Jay: I’m starting to lay in the Christmas goodies and will get the booze delivered in early December. I currently can’t make up my mind between a small gammon joint or a chicken breast with the usual pig in blanket and stuffing.

    Christmas viewing,  The Queen at 3pm, followed by the animated film. Need to check the evening schedule but I’ve ordered the black and white Avengers TV seasons as a pressy for myself, so have those as a back up.

  45. 45.

    YY_Sima Qian

    @Sloane Ranger: Rt ~ 1 at such high incidence levels isn’t exactly good. The objective of any lock down is to quickly knock the Rt to < 1, ideally << 1. I think France and the Netherlands have seen larger drops in daily new case counts (though from higher peaks than the UK, and still at very high levels now), indicating Rt is noticeably < 1. Their challenge will be whether they squander the decent work done by starting to relax the restrictions far too quickly.

  46. 46.

    Mousebumples

    @Steeplejack: I have some of those in black! I’ll have to try it, thanks for the idea!

    @Gvg: I forgot about the headband idea, thanks!

    @debbie: these are adjustable, so I’m not sure how well that would work, but I’ll see what I can do, thanks!

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Tony Jay:

    all I’m waiting for is an an acceptable timeslot for starting the Christmas Movie Marathon. ‘Arthur Christmas’ on Christmas Eve here we come 

    Die Hard :)

  49. 49.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @ant: I also wonder how big a role of colder temps is having. Seems like it could be a factor with the coldest parts of the US seeing the highest spikes.

    A generation back I was coauthor of reports on various biological warfare threats, one of which was Yersinia pestis (the causative agent of plague), which is particularly nasty in the pneumonic form where it sets up immediately in the lungs. It’s not nearly as common as bubonic plague – the nasopharynx is really good at flagging down inhaled stuff above a very specific size, which covers nearly everything a plague-infected person might exhale. (ETA: Plague germs snagged by the nasopharynx can get into the lymphatic system, causing a case of the bubonic plague. This sounds like what Miz Rona is doing re the nasal cavity and the bloodstream.)

    In our lit search we could find only one instance of an outbreak that was primarily pneumonic – Manchuria, winter 1949, a bitterly cold winter even by the standards of a region accustomed to bitterly cold winters (they catch the Siberian express full-on). Our candidate ;^D explanation was that the Manchurians were huddling up as close as possible (along with the rats harboring Y. pestis) to keep warm & were literally breathing one another’s breath, and in a mass respiratory charge some of the buggies got through to the lungs.

    USA 2020 can minimize the risks of indoor transmission by frequent exchanges of air with the outdoors. But that means heating a lot of cold air, and my guess is that our countrymen will set their heating systems to recycle indoor air because they’re too damn cheap to do that. Which lands us back in the septic tank.

  50. 50.

    Sloane Ranger

    @YY_Sima Qian: I don’t disagree. My comment was simply that things are starting to move in the right direction, but this is threatened by any relaxation over Christmas/New Year.

    What we should have done is follow the New Zealand model. Requisitioned some hotels to quarantine those entering the country and locked down good and hard until the virus had been reduced to zero new cases for a period of time. This would have taken longer but, then we could have re-opened everything and our economy would be recovering as people went out and spent money with the government imposing local restrictions whenever the virus raises its ugly head.

    Instead, we get this half arsed, penny pinching policy that neither controls the virus nor, as it turns out, does anything for the economy.

  51. 51.

    jc

    @Frankensteinbeck: They’re just pathetic suckers. They’ve cast their lot with grifters who’ve told them masks don’t work, it’s all a liberal scam. Next, the liberals will be telling us that people of color’s votes should count as much as mine.

  52. 52.

    Another Scott

    Thanks as always for this.

    I don’t think that the “currently infected” numbers are meaningful because of the differences in state reporting.  E.g. at worldometers.info compare Ohio and Virginia infected and recovered numbers.  They’re basically reversed because Ohio collects recovered numbers and Virginia doesn’t.  (In Virginia you apparently mostly remain in the infected column until you die.). I haven’t checked to see if VA is unique there.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Who should get the vaccine first?  People who routinely wear masks when in public.

    This is a no-brainer.

  55. 55.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Didn’t one of the Faux Noise bimbos plead with us all that we should not politicize mask wearing?  Or was that Sleepy Ben Carson?

    Too late, motherfuckers.  You went there, and now it’s time to pay the piper.

  57. 57.

    The Fat White Duchess

    @ant: Evolution of the vrus is most definitely happening (should I find a link?); the only encouraging thing I’ve seen is that the mutations are not, so far, more deadly.  But no less deadly either, as far as I can tell from what I’m reading.

     

    I wonder how much if the colder-area spike is due to people moving events back indoors, rather than cancelling when it gets too cold for outdoor meeting?

  58. 58.

    The Fat White Duchess

    @Frankensteinbeck: With a side helping of science denial close to that core.
    Love your nym, btw. Wish I were better at coming up with handles; best I could do was playing off my spouse’s nym.

  60. 60.

    neldob

    This from the Washington State Dept. of Health seemed kinda interesting. Number of non‐healthcare congregate settings COVID‐19 outbreaks reported by setting, ever reported and reported during the most recent week. 1, 2 and 3 are:

    Food service/restaurant 167 12
    Agriculture/employer housing/produce packing 123 1
    Construction 118 5

  61. 61.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    One of my husbands coworkers died Friday of COVID-19. Age 56. He was the sweetest guy. Lost his wife to it a couple months ago She was in a long term care facility. This year sucks.

  62. 62.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Matt: This thread is probably dead by now but, just in case, I remember watching a programme about the selection process for the Parachute Regiment a few years ago. Not exactly a part of the British Army known for recruiting shrinking violets and I remember the Training Sergeant banging on about cleanliness. He actually said if you can see tramlines in your Y fronts, you’e not keeping clean enough to be a Para.

  64. 64.

    Kayla Rudbek

    @Mousebumples: how thick is the elastic? For some of my masks I ordered little plastic cylinders and I pulled the mask elastic loop through the cylinder with a crochet hook so that I have a sliding loop. For some of the others, a separate strap with hooks or buttons work better.

  65. 65.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    @Sloane Ranger: thank you. I’m just worn down. Sick of going to work. Sick of worrying my surgery will be cancelled again. Sick of being in pain all the time. Sick of being called at home by work. Sorry for the rant. I have home and hubby and my pets. Husbands been back working from home for a month so that’s a relief a little bit.

  67. 67.

    The Fat White Duchess

    @Matt: thanks, that was exactly the source I was vaguely remembering… goodness, three years ago? Time collapses as I age!

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