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How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?
Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.
Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.
In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.
Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?
Not all heroes wear capes.
Good lord, these people are nuts.
“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.
The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.
We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.
Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?
The GOP is a fucking disgrace.
The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.
I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.
It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.
Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.
Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.
They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.
This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.
If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.
Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?
We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.
A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.
When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.
Zzyzx
OK then. What the heck is going on with this?
dr. bloor
Sid Powell: Agent Provocateur, off her meds, or both? Discuss.
Paddy Chayefsky saw it with clarity that would make Nostradamus green with envy.
Elizabelle
I have been wondering if it will be possible to disbar Sidney Powell, and Rudy Giuliani.
IANAL, but it would seem outright and proveable lying should not be sanctioned by a bar association.
Guess they employ the Fox defense: these are entertainers, not attorneys.
JaySinWA
Sidney Powell under bus How soon does she realize that the T campaign has been bought off by the conspiracy?
The Moar You Know
Politics of burgers? I am in favor.
Elizabelle
@dr. bloor: Network?! Never saw that movie, and sounds like it is past time to do so.
JaySinWA
@Zzyzx: The Turtle probably snapped after she attacked Loeffler and Perdue.
Poe Larity
What city will pay the most for Trump’s Presidential Library? Will it have a casino?
The Moar You Know
@Elizabelle: the local nut case who was banned from every court in CA from filing lawsuits due to abuse of the process (an extraordinary action in and of itself) died with his law license fully valid and paid up. The only attorneys I’ve heard being sanctioned by their bar associations are those that have directly stolen client funds.
scav
I’m just impressed that she was such a cheapskate she didn’t even provide her round of coffee to the Team.
dr. bloor
@Elizabelle: Yep. And the movie came out a year or two before Roone Arledge turned local news into a carinval show with his “Eyewitness News” concept.
Mary G
Cheryl Rofer
I can hardly stop laughing.
Mary G
@Zzyzx: I think somebody finally noticed that she said Hugo Chavez fixed the election, and he died in 2013.
Cheryl Rofer
I know it’s Maggie, but she seems to have the goods.
Winston
How many times has Pfizer and subsidiaries been fined, and how much, for off-label or unapproved promotion of medical products?
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer
Why did Moderna insiders sell millions of shares after announcement of good news?
Renie
Here’s a question for you jackals below the Mason Dixon line. My daughter is finishing law school and will be clerking for a federal judge in Martinsburg, West Virginia for two years. Should we be concerned that her car will have New York plates on it? It’s a leased car under my husband’s name and I don’t think we can change the plates to WV. With everything so polarized in this country, it’s really a shame that this issue has come up but here we are. Thanks for any input.
Kent
No! God no! Why would you want to do that? When your opponent is busy digging themselves a hole, you don’t put a stop to it. You offer them another shovel.
PaulWartenberg
Part of it trump’s conspiracy BS is so crazy that only crazy people would defend it. The other part of it was the whole grift involved: getting paid to spew BS on national television to make oneself into a wingnut martyr for the book signing tours.
Mary G
@Cheryl Rofer: Do you have this one in your ongoing thread:
zhena gogolia
Giuliani is never going to live down that hair dye, is he?
All his malfeasances just blow by, but that . . .
germy
Cheryl Rofer
I just can’t keep up.
CaseyL
Marc Elias tweeted a request for some brave souls to check Parler and see what was being said about the Powell Underbus Maneuver. “A whole bunch of crazy” is what.
If there is a consensus among loons, then it seems to be that Powell has left the public face of the Elite Legal Strike Force to go
all Batmanundercover and, um… something something Brian Kemp, Dominion, and Hugo Chavez.Cheryl Rofer
@Mary G: That is number eleven.
germy
Winston
@Cheryl Rofer: Was it liquified gray matter seeping or oozing?
Mary G
Kent
Been there, done that. With my daughter who was a student at University of Arkansas with a car that had WA plates.
You should be able to easily register the car in WV and get WV plates without changing the title or lease terms. There may be tax implications. But you can have a car titled in one state and registered in another.
Your biggest issue will likely be insurance. If you put WV plates on it your NY insurance may not cover and you’ll likely need to get a local WV insurance policy.
The Moar You Know
@Renie: Sure you can. Changing the plates is not a problem (and in CA, for example, is required after 30 days). Moving the location of the leased car to another state may be quite an issue for the lessor, especially if you don’t tell them. Tell them.
germy
CaseyL
@Mary G: Is Trump going to appeal the PA District Court decision on the basis of incompetent counsel?
zhena gogolia
@germy:
The Mooch has really become one of my favorite people.
germy
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
Bernie works in mysterious ways.
germy
Baud
Sidney Powell must have sent Trump a bill.
schrodingers_cat
It is time to shut down this farce of these stupid lawsuits.
O. Felix Culpa
@schrodingers_cat: Which one? So many to choose from.
JPL
@Cheryl Rofer: At first I thought that was why she was thrown under the bus, but apparently not.
Van Buren
@Renie: My son spent 4 years in SW Virginia driving a blue jeep with NY plates and a picture of Gen. Sherman taped to the back window with no problems.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: Made irrelevant by an edit.
WaterGirl
@germy: Thanks for posting that here. I don’t understand that, its from 3 days ago, what is that about?
Mary G
@CaseyL: I think she lasted less than a Scaramucci and so wasn’t involved in the older suits. Not that those who were are any better at lawyering.
I could be wrong, though, it’s hard to keep up with the parade of loonies.
dr. bloor
@Cheryl Rofer: Maggie thinks firing an attorney might erase attorney-client privilege? Perfect. Just perfect.
Baud
Justice for Doug Collins! Elect Warnack!
ETA: Fixed lineup.
dmsilev
I can’t wait until the inevitable underbusing of Rudy. We all know it’s coming, and it will be epic.
Renie
@Kent: Thanks for the response. I will definitely look into that. It’s a shame it is even an issue.
WaterGirl
@Mary G: What is “one down, one to go” in reference to?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@germy: I was thinking about this today; basically Trump tries to get other people to break the law for him while he lurks in the background. Explains why everyone around him is an idiot because anyone with any sense would see they were the one’s going to jail and bail.
HalfAssedHomesteader
@Elizabelle: Especially when deployed in the service of destroying democracy. Why should anyone who embarks on that cause continue to hold such privileges?
germy
@Cheryl Rofer:
Republicans in Disarray.
Kent
What if the client claims the person wasn’t fired, but simply never was his attorney to begin with?
I wonder if any of these clowns actually had legal retainers with Trump or the Trump Campaign?
Honus
@Renie: WVa native and wv bar member here. she’ll be fine. Who is the judge? I’m guessing irene keeley or gina groh. In any event, nobody messes with a federal judge or her clerks.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Kemp conspired with Bernie to fix the election,… that’s up there with Trump won California.
Renie
@Van Buren: She’s had a car at W&M in Williamsburg, VA with NY plates for the last 3 years with no problem but my bias is showing in assuming West Virginia is different from Virginia. Maybe I should ask John (in an email with capital letters).
JaySinWA
@Cheryl Rofer: A better question, whether she thinks she is bound by Attny Client privilege or even if she does, is exposing the “conspiracy” a higher calling (or a higher paying grift gig)?
Elizabelle
There was a great knock knock joke on a twitter thread WRT the crazy Sidney Powell and Giuliani. Since I don’t know how to embed, here are the words.
Biden: Knock knock.
Trump: Who’s there?
Biden: Joe.
Trump: Joe who?
Biden: Joe ass is going to jail.
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
@dr. bloor: she probably thinks if you change doctors your medical records become public domain.
Honus
@Renie: also, Martinsburg is essentially a DC suburb. Not like it’s Webster county or something.
scav
Christ, I expect Team Trump to soon announce who really won the 1976 election in Chicago’s Ward 48.
dmsilev
She promised a ‘Biblical’ lawsuit in Georgia, only to be betrayed by her own boss. Lots of backstabbing in the Bible, so I guess that checks out.
Winston
@Cheryl Rofer: I was just thinking today the one good thing to come of all this was Doug Collins will be confined to the shit bin of history. Or not.
Renie
@Honus: Gina Groh. My daughter is very excited to be working for her. Do you know the area well to give advice on where she should look for an apartment?
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: It’s an old trope:
BernieThe Elders of Zion rigged the electionSFBayAreaGal
@Cheryl Rofer: They are really eating each other.
Cheryl Rofer
@JPL: It’s hard to choose. So many possibilities!
debbie
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch:
I’m back to thinking this is all prion disease.
germy
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
@scav: C’mon – everyone knows Jane Byrne and Ed Vrdolyak rigged that election.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Sure, but “The Elders of Zion conspired with Himmler to rig the election” is a new twist.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
Yet another ancient treasure destroyed by fanatics.
Cheryl Rofer
I have been working on a complicated post all day – more Trumpie doings – and this is a respite thread for me. I haven’t laughed so much in a long time.
And now I’m going to go sit with the kitties away from the computer for a while.
dr. bloor
@Kent: There might or might not be a contract, but take a look at Ellis’s Twitter, and then think about whether you’d prefer arguing “for ” or “against” that in court.
Yarrow
@SFBayAreaGal:
Yep! As we knew they would. So much fun to watch.
Honus
@Renie: Williamsburg is probably more conservative than Martinsburg. And I’ve practiced in both places.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cheryl Rofer: that’s my question: How the hell does a “legal team” led by Crazy Rudi decide someone else is too crazy?
WaterGirl
@debbie: I guess I don’t understand why if it’s a big deal, we haven’t seen it on the news?
germy
O. Felix Culpa
@Honus: I used to go with my church youth group to Webster County every summer! Stayed in Webster Springs. The area — as I remember it — was beautiful and incredibly poor.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
Trump has stolen all the oxygen in the world. I hadn’t heard about it either. ?
Mary G
@WaterGirl: I assume the saner people in Trumpland think Rudy should be underbussed as well.
SFBayAreaGal
@Yarrow: Loving every minute of it. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people ???
Elizabelle
@Yarrow: And thank dog they are doing the eating, because they are all distinctly unpalatable.
germy
scav
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: I thought it was Che Guevara with input from August Spies.
Dan B
@CaseyL: Wow! The leaps and pretzels of logic to get Sidney P. to be going undercover is breathtaking and mind boggling sausage. Imagine that on a resume.
JPL
germy
Honus
@Renie: not really as far as apartments, but like I said, Martinsburg is a DC suburb. Anywhere will be fine, and she will be safe. The chief judge, Thomas Johnston, even though he is a republican, is an old friend. The eastern panhandle is probably the nicest part of west Virginia to live. I wouldn’t worry about her any more in Martinsburg than in Faifax.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: It happened in 2015. Link.
Patricia Kayden
Nice!
Elizabelle
Top left of the Washington Post right now:
Chris Christie calls the conduct of Trump’s legal team a ‘national embarrassment’
The former New Jersey governor and several prominent Republicans said that President Trump’s legal arguments had run their course, and called on him to allow the presidential transition process to begin.
cmorenc
Only part of Giuliani’s doggedly desperate efforts to keep Trump’s evaporating prospects alive is due to delusionary insanity – most of Rudy’s ability to sustain the grift that keeps him financially afloat will evaporate when Trump is no longer POTUS. What law firm or client able to pay sufficient rates to keep him afloat will hire him? Unless perhaps OAN wingnut news will give him a posh gig as legal analyst along the lines of what Jeff Tobin had at CNN, if they are willing to overlook the Borat tape of Rudy playing with himself in front of the female “journalist”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@JPL: @germy: I wonder if that was the last straw, her batshit was at risk of driving the GA elections off the rails ?
FelonyGovt
@Zzyzx: She’s just the coffee girl.
Ruckus
@The Moar You Know:
What’s the old saw, if you disbarred all the unethical lawyers, who would be left.
Now I know that’s not true but my dad did pick the newish firm of Myerson & Kuhn, the firm with senior partner Bowie Kuhn, former baseball commissioner, who opened an office in CA with a number of lawyers from Shea & Gould, a failing NY firm and the old firm he was using, and then M&K failed a couple of years later. Myerson hit the road and was found hiding out in FL supposedly after over charging clients to the amount of $30 mill in a short time and yet still going bankrupt.
I’m not saying the big wheels were dishonest, scumbag lawyers but if looks and facts mean anything……
And no some of the lawyers I’ve talked to and known there were not in any way bad people or lawyers, after all a job is a job, but some of them……
WaterGirl
@Mary G:
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence! :-)
Jeffro
@Mary G:
@Cheryl Rofer:
@CaseyL:
just rooting for injuries, here
LOLOLOLOLOL
WaterGirl
@JPL: Brian Kemp is no longer Secretary of State. How is he in a position to have controlled and cheated in the election?
Don’t get me wrong, he totally did that in 2018. But 2020? How?
WV Blondie
New politics question: Did anybody read the judge’s scathing decision in the PA case that he dismissed – with prejudice – last night?
There was a really interesting loose thread I wish somebody would tug on, where he referred to a “rude and ill-conceived voicemail.” No other details, no reference throughout the decision. I’m wondering if Hair Furor made the call … and I’m dying to know what was said!
Yarrow
@cmorenc: Rudy is trying to keep Trump in power to keep himself out of prison.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Thank you.
Then I really don’t understand why we are talking about it on a Sunday night in 2020, as if it’s breaking news.
SMH
Omnes Omnibus
Unlikely that we will ever know.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: Maybe throw in a Shakespeare “Kill all the lawyers” quote for completeness.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Because Trump says so! That means it’s true!
Jeffro
@SFBayAreaGal: wait ‘til Ginni Thomas hears about THIS shit!
LOLOL
(still just rooting for injuries, here)
germy
@WaterGirl:
I didn’t mean it as breaking news.
It’s a twitter account that shows ancient Roman history; art and archeology. It’s a beautiful piece of antiquity that unfortunately doesn’t exist anymore. I first linked to it in a respite thread.
Renie
@Honus: Thank you for your kind replies. I feel better just reading your responses.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: The Twitter account is about Roman History, so that’s why they posted it. As to why someone posted it here I couldn’t say.
Patricia Kayden
Jeffro
@Yarrow: I think the potential for several years of Republican civil war here is receiving nowhere NEAR the coverage it deserves.
Not just about Powell…all of them
WaterGirl
@WV Blondie: We talked about it quite a bit in one of the threads last night, but I’m not sure which one. Possibly in two! That phrase was quoted, but I don’t recall seeing any explanation of that that particular phone call was or who made it.
germy
@WaterGirl:
For all we know, it could have been Sidney Powell who made the phone call!
Yarrow
@Omnes Omnibus: I once attended a summer Shakespeare festival and they were selling t-shirts with that quote on them. They looked to be doing a brisk business.
Winston
This is all about election rigging, right?
WaterGirl
@germy: Okay, that makes sense. When I saw it in the Medium Cool thread I thought it must have just happened. I misunderstood.
Dan B
@WaterGirl: I thought the quote was “One down, two to go.” Two = Giuliani and Ellis.
germy
@WaterGirl:
There’s a few of those twitter accounts that focus on antiquity.
I love the photos.
Yarrow
@Jeffro: Trump is going to own the R party and QAnon will be the true believers’ guide. It’s going to be nutty. Unfortunately rest of us will still have to deal with the crazies and there are a lot of them.
Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
@cmorenc: Well, Rudy is demanding a whopping $20,000 per day to spew nonsense arguments in a vain attempt to steal an election so he should be alright.
Just joking. We all know that Trump isn’t going to pay him a penny.
Omnes Omnibus
@Yarrow: Yes, they always are popular. The fact that the quote is out of context is seldom mentioned.
eddie blake
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch:
yup. they already looped soros into their yarn.
WaterGirl
@Dan B: You are absolutely correct! thanks for the correction.
OT, did you see that I sent you email this morning?
lgerard
@WV Blondie:
Linda Kearns, a local lawyer who is representing trump received a voice mail trolling her from a lawyer employed by (but not involved in the case) Kirkland & Ellis, the firm representing the Secretary of State.
Juvenile, but inconsequential.
germy
Brachiator
Haberman has never seemed more clueless and irrelevant. Her drivel is more irritating because she uses a reality tv show cliche (voting off the island) to describe what is happening with a reality tv show president.
It might be useful to learn why Trump insists on this fruitless quest. But we have rarely got any real reporting from Haberman and she is too stupid to start now.
germy
Winston
@germy: Was the DNC smart enough to hire Powell, maybe? Oh shit this will be Trump’s next conspiracy theory.
JaySinWA
@Ruckus: Your dad sure was poison to lawyers.
Geoduck
@eddie blake: I was wondering what the conspiracy loons were going to do when Soros finally passes on, but I now see they’ll just keep using him, as they just did with Hugo Chavez.
JaySinWA
@WaterGirl: Georgia’s deep state runs silent and runs deep.
Brachiator
@Elizabelle:
It would be helpful if the GOP leadership finally rallied and let Trump know that it is all over.
Trump does not have a case. He never had a case. He and his supporters are the electoral equivalent of flat-Earth believers. There is no evidence anywhere that could ever support their case.
And ultimately, Trump is looking for some criminal public officials who would be willing to steal the election and up-end the Constitution for his benefit. It’s possible, but unlikely.
Meanwhile, it doesn’t much matter what Powell or Rudy G says. The only news story is why Republicans are not being constantly grilled for enabling an infantile madman.
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
Don’t want to rub it in…….
Jim, Foolish Literalist
JPL
@WaterGirl: Since Dominion is headed by a republican, they probably did donate to the republicans in the state, but nothing makes sense anymore.
Uncle Cosmo
@Mary G: Love Dan Rather’s take:
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Maybe all of the above.
prostratedragon
Testing
Uncle Cosmo
FTFY!
HumboldtBlue
Biden’s cabinet announcements are trickling out.
West of the Rockies
@zhena gogolia:
Yeah, weird, isn’t it?
TS (the original)
So little in the media about the Virtual G20 meeting. This (from Wapo) seems to be all that needs to be said about trump’s attendance
JCJ
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Yeah, Mike Royko wrote all about that.
Geoduck
@TS (the original): He evidently also made some comment how he’ll be working with all the other leaders in the future.
Omnes Omnibus
@HumboldtBlue: Not who I expected, but looking at their backgrounds I am not surprised either. People he knows. Good Dem FP credentials. Youngish.
Uncle Cosmo
Sounds like a Lot of Baal to me…
prostratedragon
@zhena gogolia: Nothing like a good emblem, is there?
JPL
@HumboldtBlue: I hope he leaks out the acting cabinet members also. Hillary could be acting SOS and Sally Yates could be acting Atty. Gen. Maybe AOC as acting Interior Secretary.
Ruckus
@JaySinWA:
Not to good ones…….. I met some interesting people there. One was an older gentleman who had practiced before the Supreme Court. One was a lawyer that the family used for about 30 yrs after that and is still in practice.
TS (the original)
@Geoduck:
mmm – makes one wonder where he thinks the others may be in the future as none of them are talking about any further relationship with trump ( unless the UK PM gets involved with issues from Scotland).
lafcolleen
@Omnes Omnibus:
one of Trump’s lawyers, Kearns I think, complained about a VM from what turned out to be a Kirkland associate (not working on the case). Kirkland was representing the PA SOS.
Apparently there was a loose campaign organized encouraging people to call Kearns and voice their opinions about what Trump is doing and her own responsibility for enabling it. sounded like she got a number of such Vms.
but this one could be traced back to OC’s office so she asked for sanctions against Kirkland. which judge didn’t entertain for a hot second although he made his irritation abundantly clear. asking rather pointedly if someone spoke to the associate in question.
fallout is probably that associate is gone and another attorney subbed in for Kirkland.
prostratedragon
@germy: Might be the funniest thing EW has ever said. I’m still chuckling.
lgerard
@lafcolleen:
I am sure his superior explained to him that if you want to troll your opponents the proper way is to do it in court like we did to Rudy
prostratedragon
@Patricia Kayden: Glad to hear there were some available –I knew they’d want some to go.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
He should go to Four Seasons Hair Salon.
JPL
@Baud: Are we sure he didn’t?
HalfAssedHomesteader
No errors found in this tweet:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1330275989163827204
Baud
@JPL: No.
David ?Booooooo!? Koch
So he’s putting professionals in charge, not unqualified hacks.
Nora
@WV Blondie: I read that decision — it was a work of art, and made me laugh throughout — but I, too, was looking for a description of that “rude and ill-conceived voicemail,” which, as far as I could tell, never came in the decision. One cannot help but speculate, right?
JaySinWA
Qanon seems to be selling Powell was fired to release the Kraken theory.
https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1330681113602211840
All part of the plan, Stan.
debbie
@Nora:
OMG, that last sentence! “This is simply not how the Constitution works.”
WaterGirl
@JPL:
But they are saying theNever mind. I’m not even going to try to understand. These people are nuts.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I expected him to fight for Susan Rice.
Soprano2
@Elizabelle: “Network” was scarily prescient about the direction TV news would take. I rewatched it several years ago and was stuck by the fact that it could be easily updated with only a few minor revisions.
LurkerNoLonger
@germy: All the crazy, right wing, Republican women have that same look. Satan must be using the same mold.
prostratedragon
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: And also not people who, despite having all the qualifications, are also readymade targets.
WaterGirl
@JPL:
AOC ???
Kent
@Patricia Kayden: I thought we were going to write-in Trump! To really show them.
HumboldtBlue
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m gonna treat Joe and Kamala’s personnel choices and decisions the way I treat Jurgen Klopp’s — with 100-percent trust because I generally know fuck-all about how they came to those choices and decisions on who to hire.
@JPL:
That would be top-level trolling.
@WaterGirl:
Thinking that could be tongue-in-cheek.
Amir Khalid
@Brachiator:
I don’t understand the logic of this strategy: going to places where Trump is thousands of votes behind Biden, and challenging mere dozens or hundreds of votes. Even if they win, Trump still loses.
WaterGirl
@JaySinWA: I have completely lost track of what the hell the Kraken their is. It’s all just too much.
Kent
Doesn’t work like that. All the nominees will be the acting secretaries until confirmed.
You put the seriously controversial picks in as deputies, who will take over if/when the first choices don’t get confirmed. Make Hillary a Deputy SOS and second in command who moves up automatically if the first choice doesn’t get confirmed. Make Susan Rice another senior advisor and 3rd in line. And so froth.
Geoduck
@Kent: Half of the GOP voters will write in one, and half the other. Really cover all the bases!
JPL
@Kent: That works for me and thank you for the correction.
Amir Khalid
@HumboldtBlue:
Your faith (and mine) in Jürgen is well justified, in light of the result against Leicester City.
HumboldtBlue
@Amir Khalid:
What an absolutely brilliant match. Nines across the board.
Been reading and watching highlights for two hours.
Watching them love on Bobby following his goal was a joy to see.
LadySuzy
@David ?Booooooo!? Koch: Mr. Blinken is an excellent choice. I’m still mad, though, about what republicans did to Susan Rice. I expect President Biden to hire her in a position that doesn’t need confirmation. She could come return to her previous post of National Security Advisor.
President Biden will nominate people with impeccable credentials. But McConnell will want a scalp, just fo show.
Burnspbesq
@The Moar You Know:
Donald Segretti was disbarred after pleading guilty to Watergate-related crimes. After five years, he was allowed to apply for reinstatement, and spent his later years quietly practicing estate planning law in Newport Beach.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
a lot going on here, as they say
it looks like the security guard, who seems to have been equipped with only an arm-band, has to be escorted out of the area by riot police
Frankensteinbeck
@Amir Khalid:
Try absolutely everything they can come up with, regardless of ethics, morality, legality, or stupidity. He’s too much of a whiny shit to accept that he can’t win. He has no reason not to try everything, including stuff like pressuring legislatures to assign the wrong electors. He doesn’t know what’s realistic and has kicked out anyone who tells him. Filing lots of lawsuits is also a familiar tactic with him, so he’ll definitely do that. It’s an ignorant, screaming tantrum, which is what his entire presidency was and what Republican voters wanted.
I will note: It is not rare for Republican candidates to play sore loser, refuse to concede, try to sue, and demand recounts. We are seeing why that almost never goes very far: It doesn’t work. Trump is too selfish and stupid to accept that.
JaySinWA
@WaterGirl: The Kraken is squid ink, except to the true believers. It will be the one true reveal of the great conspiracy and the walls will come tumbling down. There will be glorious executions of the traitors, possibly with trials but maybe not, because the evidence of their perfidy will be so clear that who needs trials anyway.
And Qanon can never fail, it can’t even be failed. It’s all part of the plan.
Mike in NC
Kraken is also an excellent dark rum.
JaySinWA
@Mike in NC: Ah, yes. That explains a lot.
J R in WV
@Renie:
Martinsburg is in the eastern panhandle, which is mostly a bedroom community for Washington, DC. I don’t think it would be an issue in most cities in WV, certainly won’t be an issue in Martinsburg…
Also, Martinsburg is in the confluence of 4 states, PA, Maryland, WV and northern VA. So a wide variety of people without the fact that it is a bedroom community for DC.
Another Scott
ICYMI, …
Cheers,
Scott.
Punchy
@O. Felix Culpa: its a Mobius strip of lawsuits. As one gets dismissed, it reappears on the other side…..or the same side….on SCOTUS has the pair of Trump scissors to cut it.
JaySinWA
Powell has roid rage:
sdhays
@WaterGirl: Note the “Acting” modifier. I think JPL’s suggesting leaking a bunch of totally unpalatable names of people who would be “Acting” secretaries as a threat to Republicans (McConnell) who might want to not vote for his actual nominees.
Can you imagine? “Don’t give me any trouble confirming Deb Haaland, or AOC will be Acting Secretary of the Interior. Do you really want that?” Or, better yet, HHS! There was a story the other day about a little known part of the ACA that put everyone in a small town in Montana automatically on Medicare for life – because of asbestos contamination. But the way the law is written, it can be applied to any environmental contamination anywhere and only depends on, I think, a designation by the HHS administrator. Republicans – you can have Biden’s pick who will play nice, or you can have AOC (or someone like her) give everyone in America Medicare with the stoke of a pen. Your move!
I know it all doesn’t work that way, but it’s a definitely funny thought.
Renie
@J R in WV: Thanks for your reply. I feel better reading what everyone posted.
sdhays
@JaySinWA: I hope she also gets right on protecting those disenfranchised Doug Collins voters as well. What’s been done to them is just unconscionable!
Punchy
@JaySinWA: Democrats in disarray!
Kay
The groveling subservience of the Republican Party and is just amazing to watch. They’re not even going to have primaries anymore- they’ve essentially already been threatened into declaring Trump the 2024 GOP candidate:
They’ll give it to him. They probably already have. Despite best efforts by the Republican Party Americans aren’t going to be stuck with Donald Trump as President for Life, but the GOP have already surrendered. They’re stuck with him for life.
Weak and cowardly people with no capacity for independent thought and no free will.
Kay
@JaySinWA:
I hope we can put a whole new section of regulations in to police the next Republican President and ensure that he or she doesn’t try to cling to power and hold the country hostage like this.
If they don’t recognize elections they won’t recognize term limits either. You put another of these people in you’ll never get rid of them.
It’s a shame we have to do it but since conservatives apparently have no self control and do no self policing they’ll need to heavily regulated. Who knows how bad their next cult leader will be.
Dmbeaster
@WV Blondie: Sadly. The real story is boring. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/16/trump-lawyer-harassing-call-opposing-attorney-436764
Just One More Canuck
@JaySinWA: Good God, she is crazier than Rudy
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
I would hope a goodly portion of lawyers know the context. And, considering Trump’s (il)legal antics over the past four years, I would suspect that at least one person in his inner circle saw it as prescriptive.
sdhays
@Kay: I’m still trying to work out how the Emoluments Clause doesn’t have the force of law, but apparently the rest of the Constitution is still in force.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Has anybody noticed all of the “President-Elect X” usernames proliferating on Twitter lately? I guess it’s some right-wing “meme” to say “Hey, I can claim to be ‘President-Elect’ too just like Biden; and just like Biden it doesn’t actually mean anything.” These people are seriously fucked up
HumboldtBlue
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I saw that as well and it was gratifying to see her stomp off in tears.
Tom Levenson
@Omnes Omnibus: wasn’t that some associate in one of the defendants lawyers’ firms who left a nast message for, I th8nk, the W. Va member of the Giuliani team? It was discussed a bit in the hearing on Tuesday.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: Among many other national security and foreign relations gigs, Blinken was Joe’s National Security Advisor from 2009-2013. He got promoted from Joe’s staff to Deputy Secretary of State. He makes a lot of sense on a personal level.
Tom Levenson
@Tom Levenson: and I see now that everyone else got here before me, and w. more detail.
Another Scott
@sdhays: Tomorrow should be interesting…
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: It sounds like Emily Murphy’s office has not responded to say she will be coming tomorrow. I wonder if she is just going to flip off the House.
Anotherlurker
@Renie: Funny you should mention about license plates.
At one point, I was considering a cross country drive, SF Bay Area to L.I., NY. The purpose of the trip was to adopt a Golden Retriever.
I dismissed the idea after I thought about the possibility of either being shot at on the road or forced off the road because some red state asshole takes offense at a red Prius with California plates .
I think the possibility of some horrible harassment happening is very much greater than 0.
Call me paranoid, but I think cautious is a much better term.
Aleta
@Tom Levenson: You can hear Linda Kearns complaining (on and on) to Judge Brann and naming all those who haven’t apologized to her, toward the end (on youtube, a nearly four-hour recording of the arguments): Oral Arguments held 11/17/2020 in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania before the Honorable Matthew W. Brann.
The Lodger
@Dan B: I can imagine that on a German menu.
sdhays
@WaterGirl: I think I saw a tweet from Ted Lieu which suggested that if she didn’t show up, they may go straight to contempt of Congress. Or at least that’s what he’s arguing they do.
Brachiator
@Amir Khalid:
There is no logic or strategy. It’s nothing more than Trump spouting some nonsense and people who back him saying “it must be true because Trump said so.” The Pennsylvania judge wasn’t having it and blew Trump’s team out of court.
Some people who previously had some reputation to protect are strangely making fools of themselves for Trump’s benefit. Some math professors and statisticians on YouTube have tried to use various techniques to “prove” Trump’s arguments. In every case, they have been shown to have made simple, fundamental errors or simply not known what they were talking about. If I were a college student, I would make note of some of these idiots and avoid them like the plague which Trump is also denying.
rikyrah
@Elizabelle:
?????
J R in WV
@Renie:
I’m glad. We live in far SW W Va, about 45 minutes S W of the state capitol, and until retirement commuted into town to work. We are flaming leftwing democrats, wife was a labor union organizer her whole career. We work for progressive Democratic candidates, and have neighbors who fly Trump flags o their front porch.
Yet the most conservative people in the neighborhood would, I think, stop to help someone with a flat tire regardless of the political bumperstickers on their car. Maybe things have changed, but I really don’t think they have changed that much. And the people carrying on about Trump are a real minority compared to people who just voted for him.
One next door neighbor is very serious about his religion, and resigned from the Republican party because he believed their attitude about poverty was unChristian. He has helped me with vehicle issues at 5 am in a snowstorm several times.
He offered to help a next door neighbor who is very liberal and a long-haired hippy musician pour a concrete floor in his garage just last week, for example. We have all known each other for many years which may make a difference, but I think your daughter will be as completely safe living in and driiving around Martinsburg as she would be at your house. As well as visiting the fabulous state parks all over W Va. Come visit her after the Trump Plague is squashed, and see for yourself. Great low impact biking on the C&O Canal just for one beautiful place…
ETA: Although, technically, that’s in Maryland and Va on the other side of the rier from WV.
WaterGirl
@sdhays: That’s absolutely what they should do.