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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2020 / Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Preznit I.R. Turkee

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Preznit I.R. Turkee

by Anne Laurie|  November 24, 20205:10 pm| 111 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, Open Threads, Trumpery

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Tuesday Evening Open Thread:  Preznit Turkee

(John Deering via GoComics.com)
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BREAKING: Names of the two White House turkeys this year are 'Corn' and 'Cob'

— Emily Larsen (@emilyelarsen) November 23, 2020

From the Urban Dictionary:

Corncob: Someone who has been brutally owned, yet insists that they are victorious in the online discourse despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary…

Speaking of pwned turkeys… look who’s back, it’s Mr. But the Deficit!, via Politico:

Very convincing, high-level #analysis from Paul Ryan, via @playbookplus pic.twitter.com/gJBJiyPF7j

— Gabriel Debenedetti (@gdebenedetti) November 24, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 24, 2020 at 5:14 pm

    I see Ryan is still an idiot.

  2. 2.

    MomSense

    November 24, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    Fuck Paul Ryan.

  3. 3.

    BR

    November 24, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    I mentioned in the other thread that Dems need to stop encouraging the “write in Trump in GA” stuff — it’s a runoff, so I don’t believe there is a write-in option, and Trump brings low-propensity voters to the polls.  We need them to stay home.  I was dismayed to see someone posted that some Dems are going to put up billboards in GA with this message — seems like a terrible idea that needs to be stopped.

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    Alyssa Milano came up with one of the brand new “it’s up to us to reach out to our Republican friends to work together” or some such bullshit statement and thankfully, no one is having it.

    Dave Neiwert has a piece up about who these assholes are and if you think they’re gonna share the kiss of peace you’re fucking nuts.

  5. 5.

    MattF

    November 24, 2020 at 5:18 pm

    I was wondering, just yesterday… whatever happened to Paul Ryan? And now, here he is.

  6. 6.

    laura

    November 24, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    Oh Christ, it’s that asshole again. Tan, rested and ready for some deficit scolding and Sunday Show rotations.
    Fuck that guy, his $350.00 wine, his PX 90 workouts, his false piety, his massive self regard, his racism, his never ceasing desire to take away healthcare and every other social benefit we’ve paid for all our collective lives. Fuck him and his owners

    Not having it ????

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    November 24, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    @Gin & Tonic

    When piloting the Wienermobile is the apex of one’s competence….

    //

  8. 8.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    The twist at the end of this commercial is cute:

    I told you the smear ads were coming, but Georgians will see Sen. @Kloeffler’s ads for what they are. pic.twitter.com/0sgU8ndC63— Reverend Raphael Warnock (@ReverendWarnock) November 24, 2020

  9. 9.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 24, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    When Biden pardons turkeys will they be Corn and Pop?

  10. 10.

    zhena gogolia

    November 24, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    @Mary G:

    He is charming as hell. So is the pup.

  11. 11.

    eclare

    November 24, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    @Mary G: That is a great ad.

  12. 12.

    waspuppet

    November 24, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    Oh cool I’m so glad Paul Ryan has weighed in on what he’d like to see. Wait, who did he used to be again?

    So happy someone actually SOUGHT HIM OUT for his opinions. Such a good sign for the next four years in political media.

  13. 13.

    eclare

    November 24, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    @laura: Come sit six feet away from me!

  14. 14.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 24, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Gravy and Stuffing

  15. 15.

    JanieM

    November 24, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    Where was Ryan’s whining voice maundering on about both sides of the aisle for the past ten years, anyhow? Why isn’t he whining at Mitch McConnell about both sides of the aisle, instead of Biden?

    I can’t even. I wish someone would just push them all back into their holes and make them STFU.

  16. 16.

    raven

    November 24, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @Mary G:

    ATLANTA — The King holiday service at Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church bubbled over with election year politics Monday.  And the Georgia politician most on the hotseat was Kelly Loeffler – the new Republican U.S. Senator who replaced Johnny Isakson this month.

    Loeffler upheld Isakson’s tradition by appearing at the event at Ebenezer.

    “I seek to live in a way that honors Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Coretta Scott King, and the entire King family. Not just on this special occasion, but every day,” Loeffler told the congregation from the pulpit.

    Away from the church, Loeffler’s pronouncements on Twitter and elsewhere have been pro-President Trump and anti-impeachment.

  17. 17.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    Well, you have to admit, he stands by his principles. After all, he “helped” Donny Dump by giving the Democrats the House so that Dump would have the “benefit” of divided government. He must have been pissed when the Republicans took the Senate. “Goddamn it, Mitch, you were supposed to remain in the minority. Now I have to drive the House off the cliff myself. We certainly can’t be trusted with a trifecta!”

  18. 18.

    prostratedragon

    November 24, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    Funny cartoon, that.

    Meanwhile, a reminder of the mission accomplished. And the horse (too much of the media, too many other “Trumpers,” etc.) he rode in on.

  19. 19.

    JoyceH

    November 24, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    @Mary G: that is an awesome ad!

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    Trump is being himself, in a brief White House appearance.

    President Donald Trump briefly emerged to tout the Dow Jones Industrial Average breaking 30,000 for the first time ever, and then vanished after a minute without taking questions…

    “We’ve never broken 30,000, and that’s despite everything that’s taken place with the pandemic.”

    “The stock market’s just broken 30,000 — never been broken, that number. That’s a sacred number, 30,000, and nobody thought they’d ever see it,” Trump said.

    Hell, I think a fucking sacred number is the number of people that Trump should have saved, who died from the pandemic.

  21. 21.

    prostratedragon

    November 24, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    @Brachiator:  Also, 80 million.

  22. 22.

    Amir Khalid

    November 24, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    Whoever named those turkeys has a cruel sense of humour. I would be, like all, “tut-tut” and “that’s not nice”, if the butt of the joke were anyone but Trump.

    @laura:

    As Mitt Romney’s running mate many years ago, Paul Ryan was a vacuous pretty boy like Dan Quayle, but with delusions of intelligence. I still remember his ludicrous cargo-cult version of economics wonkery.

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    November 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    @Mary G: He’s such a good guy.  You can har the humor, happiness, and joy in his voice.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    November 24, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @Brachiator:

    He’s wrong, of course. As everyone knows, the sacred number is forty-two.

  25. 25.

    Shana

    November 24, 2020 at 5:41 pm

    @Mary G: I like it.

  26. 26.

    Kent

    November 24, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    I will offer $10 grand to anyone who can find A SINGLE INSTANCE of Paul Ryan (or any other Republican leader) calling for Trump and the Republicans to work across the aisle with Nancy Pelosi between 2018 and 2020 and to resist pressure from the right to try to “jam” the Democrats.

  27. 27.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 24, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    Tee Hee I just discovered I can get a bottle of wine delivered from the local store anytime before 10pm.   YESSSS!

  28. 28.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    Trump is taking care of turkeys.  In Canada, they are taking care of moose.

    Canadians, officials have an important message for you: “Do not let moose lick your car.”

    Yes, you read that right.

    Officials in Jasper, an alpine town in Canada’s Alberta province, have put up signs asking motorists to avoid allowing moose to lick the salt, a treat moose find hard to resist, off their cars.

  29. 29.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    @raven: I’m sure the congregation was gracious and polite in that way “bless your heart” means “fuck off and die, bitch.” She’s been calling Black Lives Matter thugs for months now, and refused to let the players on the WNBA team she owns put it on her jersey. Showing up once at Rev. Warnock’s own church won’t get her votes.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    November 24, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    @Brachiator: Does he not know the stock market is up because THE OTHER GUY won the election?

  31. 31.

    L85NJGT

    November 24, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    CNN:

    Nearly a third of the nurses who’ve died of coronavirus in the US are Filipino, even though Filipino nurses make up just 4% of the nursing population nationwide.

  32. 32.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Does he not know the stock market is up because THE OTHER GUY won the election?

    Oh, he knows. His standard operating procedure is to take credit for anything positive, especially when he had nothing to do with it. That’s the Trump way.

  33. 33.

    JPL

    November 24, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    @raven:  Volunteers for Loeffler door knocked during the primary, and although I saw them walk up the driveway, I didn’t answer.   If they return, I’ll answer and say sorry, but I refuse to vote for someone who runs racist ads.   Of course, I’ll say thank you, before shutting the door

  34. 34.

    LAO

    November 24, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: Well, he spoke for 68 seconds and refused to take any questions.  I’m pretty sure Trump knows his faux-concession was responsible for the stock market rise. He just can’t help himself.

  35. 35.

    Kent

    November 24, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @L85NJGT: That is an astonishing statistic.

    What explains it given that, for example, the entire country of the Philippines with over 100 million population has only seen 8,000 deaths since the start of the pandemic?

  36. 36.

    geg6

    November 24, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    Fuck right off, douchebag.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    November 24, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @LAO: Did he even do a semi-sort of-fake concession?  I missed it if he did.

  38. 38.

    JustRuss

    November 24, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    What the hell does “building pressure from the left to jam the other side” even mean?  Pass legislation Republicans don’t approve of?  Cry me a river Ryan.

  39. 39.

    RSA

    November 24, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @BR: I mentioned in the other thread that Dems need to stop encouraging the “write in Trump in GA” stuff — it’s a runoff, so I don’t believe there is a write-in option, and Trump brings low-propensity voters to the polls. We need them to stay home.

    Good point. Maybe it would be better to emphasize that if Trump supporters vote, they’re voting for establishment Republican candidates. It’s true, and I think it would be a disincentive.

  40. 40.

    Delk

    November 24, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    How’s Foxconn going Paul? Still have your gold shovel? Oh don’t forget that thanksgiving is coming up. I’m sure there’s some clean plates to pretend wash.

  41. 41.

    SiubhanDuinne

    November 24, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    @Just One More Canuck:

    Wattle and Giblets

  42. 42.

    RandomMonster

    November 24, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    Granny-starver can choke on a garbage bag of dicks.

  43. 43.

    LAO

    November 24, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: Not really — just his “allowing” the GSA to begin working with the Biden Administration. (OMG how great it is to type the Biden Administration)

  44. 44.

    KenK

    November 24, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    @MomSense: @#2

    “Fuck Paul Ryan”

    Also, too: Paul Fucking Ryan

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    November 24, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @LAO: He really is just going to pretend he won until the very end.  okay, then.

  46. 46.

    BruceFromOhio

    November 24, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    Given what I’ve seen of the incoming Biden administration picks, the President-elect and Vice-president-elect, and now the First-Lady-elect, I’m confident any “I personally think it’s in Joe Biden’s best interest to” statements from Republicans will be given the thorough and careful consideration such statements deserve.

    Right now, that feels like something between “hard pass” and “talk to the hand.”

    @RandomMonster: also, this.

  47. 47.

    Peale

    November 24, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @Kent: Well, the Philippines has a more robust lockdown for a longer period of time.  Want to go out and you’ve used your pass? SOL. So the deaths will be lower.

    I’m actually surprised the % of Filipino nurses is so low, but then the nursing crowd I know is about 100% Filipino.  I think the issue is probably how they are recruited overseas. They are basically recruited to be sent first to work in areas where there are nursing shortage, but its not like the local doctors office will be paying the headhunt fees to the agency. Hospitals and the large nursing home chains are the ones using the recruiters and paying for sponsorship. So they probably make up a much larger percentage of the nurses who work in hospitals.

  48. 48.

    zhena gogolia

    November 24, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    Donald Trump’s one-term legacy: impeachment, COVID-19 failure, subverting democracy. Let’s hope he becomes an outlier who becomes a historical lesson of what a president should not be.— Daniel Goldman (@danielsgoldman) November 22, 2020

  49. 49.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    When you hear Sec. Blinken speak about his grandfather remember the men who found him and thousands of others in Nazi camps.

    The 761st Tank Battalion were the men who pulled that little boy onto their tank.

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    November 24, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    This is:1) Melania and her handsome "nephew"2) Melania being escorted from the WH, with 150 rolls of toilet paper under her coat3) Melania starring as Mame at West Point4) Lindsey Graham's prom fantasy5) The coat you wear after a big Thanksgiving meal pic.twitter.com/BUSJOkCtDd— Paul Rudnick (@PaulRudnickNY) November 24, 2020

  51. 51.

    burnspbesq

    November 24, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Does he not know the stock market is up because THE OTHER GUY won the election?

    It’s not so much that the other guy won the election as the fact that the other guy signaled his intention to nominate someone the markets know and trust as SecTreas.

  52. 52.

    LAO

    November 24, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    @WaterGirl: Oh yeah.  I expect he’ll pretend till the day he dies; he will never stop complaining about how the election was stolen from him.  NEVER!!!

  53. 53.

    Bluegirlfromwyo

    November 24, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Two quotes for Paul Ryan:

    Deficits don’t matter – Dick Cheney

    STFU, Paul Ryan – Bluegirlfromwyo

    It’s bipartisan, even!

  54. 54.

    burnspbesq

    November 24, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    @Mary G:

    The Dream players got back at Loeffler by wearing Warnock t-shirts during warmups.

  55. 55.

    zhena gogolia

    November 24, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    Oxford vaccine tells virus about how it went to oxford until the virus gets annoyed and leaves the body.— Jason Dutton (@DuttonChemistry) November 23, 2020

  56. 56.

    JPL

    November 24, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: Melania is pretending that she really, really wanted the White House lit up in rainbow lights, but that mean Mark Meadows stopped her.   What about before Meadows was there?

    She doesn’t really care and she really fks all this Christmas stuff.

  57. 57.

    TS (the original)

    November 24, 2020 at 6:30 pm

    I’m very slow on the uptake – today being no exception – Just came to mind that Donny is really really really upset that he is a one term president. To be seen as lesser among others  is not something he ever had to face before.

    Someone else’s misery should never make me happy – but I might give myself a pass on this one.

  58. 58.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    The son of a former slave was the tank driver who pulled young Samual Pisar onto his tank when he was found near Dachau.

  59. 59.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    Look! A readout of a call with a foreign leader, just set off free into nature instead hiding it on the super-secret-server. And it’s soooo nice to see good writing and error free copy again.

    ICYMI: Readout of President-elect Biden's call with Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand earlier this week. pic.twitter.com/Iwkwef9mi5— Biden-Harris Presidential Transition (@Transition46) November 24, 2020

    Though now I said that one of youse’ll find a boo boo.

  60. 60.

    trollhattan

    November 24, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    Lord help us all the coming month.

    In the most troubling moment since the COVID-19 crisis hit, Sacramento County on Tuesday registered by far the highest one-day total of new infections, nearly 1,000, prompting the county’s health chief to sound the alarm.

    The virus is now spreading exponentially in Sacramento, county Health Officer Dr. Olivia Kasirye said.

    “I am really concerned,” she said. “I really am. This will impact our ability to have schools, places of worship and restaurants open. We are looking for state guidance on additional restrictions.”

    She urged residents to avoid Thanksgiving get-togethers and to do Black Friday shopping online from home rather than attempt to crowd into stores and malls.

    The 957 cases reported Tuesday are far higher than the previous record of 559 set last week, and exponentially higher than the daily totals of 200 and 300 the county was experiencing a month ago. The 957 figure could include some cases that occurred in previous days, but that weren’t registered by the county until Tuesday.

    sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article247402220.html#storylink=cpy

    Seat belts, bumpy ride, etc.

  61. 61.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    @JPL:

    As a Philadelphia Flyers fan this isn’t such a crazy
    White House Xmas theme.

  62. 62.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 24, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    Sigh. Even in Canada.

    Indigenous man and granddaughter, 12, handcuffed after trying to open bank account t.co/ygG4UD2s6f— Guardian news (@guardiannews) November 24, 2020

  63. 63.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    @Mary G: Compare and contrast:

    The Biden-Jacinda Ardern relationship getting off on stronger footing than the New Zealand leader’s awkward dealings with Trump. t.co/lIW5wAX1fj pic.twitter.com/8LROHxJJEF— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) November 24, 2020

  64. 64.

    Delk

    November 24, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    @zhena gogolia:  two time popular vote loser.

  65. 65.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Two weeks ago Humbo9ldt was described as an island surrounded by red and purple counties.

    We went to purple today and knowing the assholes who live here Thanksgiving is going to be the cause of a lot of suffering at Xmas.

  66. 66.

    L85NJGT

    November 24, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    @Kent:

    The article goes through a litany of issues that read like systemic racism.

  67. 67.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    @Mary G:

    The Biden-Jacinda Ardern relationship getting off on stronger footing than the New Zealand leader’s awkward dealings with Trump.

    How could this be? Fox News assures me that Trump was the best world leader ever, and made the leaders of all other nations swoon before his Orange Majesty.

    //snark

  68. 68.

    Jeffro

    November 24, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: like

     

    @MomSense: LIKE

  69. 69.

    The Moar You Know

    November 24, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    I appreciate that Paul Ryan is honest about his appraisal of the intelligence of our President-elect, as well as Democrats in general.

    He thinks we are abjectly stupid.  If so, what are you losing, Paulie?

  70. 70.

    randy khan

    November 24, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    @BR:

    Apparently if you write in someone on a mail-in ballot, it’s disregarded, so a write-in campaign would work for mail-in voters (in the sense of taking votes away from the Republicans).  And from what I’ve seen, the crazies also are encouraging people not to vote to protest that Loeffler and Perdue are RINOs.  (Which is hilarious, since Loeffler in particular has been trying to stay no more than one atom’s distance from Trump all the way through this.)

  71. 71.

    The Moar You Know

    November 24, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: it’s not like you have a healthcare system up there that is any way remotely equal to dealing with it.  I am sorry.  I have spent some time there and love it and the people. Even the weird scary ones.  They don’t deserve what’s heading their way.  Take care of yourself.

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    November 24, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    @Brachiator: the martyr complex/whining/blaming other GOP officials for not fighting harder for him is about to get turned up to 11

  73. 73.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    November 24, 2020 at 7:15 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:  That is so neat. Thank you for these links. I had no idea there was a black tank regiment, although i was aware the army was segregated in WWII.

  74. 74.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 24, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Alyssa Milano came up with one of the brand new “it’s up to us to reach out to our Republican friends to work together” or some such bullshit statement and thankfully, no one is having it. 

    Who is this Alyssa Milano you’re talking about?  Certainly not her?

    Oh wait.  Yes.  Yes it is.  WTF Alyssa?

  75. 75.

    Danielx

    November 24, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    @MomSense:

    Seconded.

  76. 76.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @JPL: I’m done with the Third Lady. I just want to “Bye, Felicia” her.

  77. 77.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    Very convincing, high-level #analysis from Paul Ryan,

    I remember an early interview with Ryan in which he assured his questioner that if Trump tried to do anything excessive, constitutional checks and balances would restrain him.

    I am not interested in anything a GOP leader or former leader has to say about the incoming administration. But they should be held to answer why they aided and abetted the slow destruction of democracy by an infantile autocrat like Trump.

  78. 78.

    BruceFromOhio

    November 24, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:  @HumboldtBlue:

    You cannot use logic to bring someone out of an argument that person did not use logic to get into.

  79. 79.

    HinTN

    November 24, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @Mary G: That’s the perfect complement to the original! He’s got a damn good team.

  80. 80.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    @trollhattan: @HumboldtBlue:

    Orange County’s increases are insanely high. Today’s 7-day average of daily new cases rose to 17.2  from I think 10.8 yesterday, and test positivity rate is 6.8 after we spent months flirting with Tier 4 at 3.2. The confirmed cases chart is just a straight line upward. Hospitalizations the same – change in 3-day average hospitalized patients 26.8%.

    It feels like a horror movie.

  81. 81.

    Luciamia

    November 24, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    My cartoon on the real reason Trump won’t be at the inauguration.

    m.facebook.com/shelley.matheis?__nodl

  82. 82.

    Mary G

    November 24, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I love that they called themselves the Black Panthers.

  83. 83.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    @Brachiator: He failed to protect his party’s majority in the House and ran away. For Pete’s sake, what more do you want!!?? //

  84. 84.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 24, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: Yum and Mo.

  85. 85.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 24, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @sdhays: Can we also have Paulie be too chickenshit to hand over the gavel to NANCY SMASH?

    Oh right.  That! Happened!

  86. 86.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 7:32 pm

    @Mary G:

    The originals.

  87. 87.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    So, after the attempt to fuck up the mail-in ballots failed to deliver the election to his Dumpiness, will the USPS still try to fuck up mail-in ballots for the run off elections in Georgia? Or will they decide that this time Republicans should mail in ballots too?

    Or is no one even trying to coordinate their ratfucking anymore?

  88. 88.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: For Paulie, fear is respect, so that was the most respectful way to for him to leave.

  89. 89.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 24, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: damn

  90. 90.

    H.E.Wolf

    November 24, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian: i was aware the army was segregated in WWII.

    Yep! Democratic President Harry S. Truman integrated the military via Executive Order on July 28, 1948, in the middle of a presidential campaign which included a segregationist 3rd-party candidate.

    Truman had big brass ovaries. :) And a sense of integrity utterly foreign to the current desecrator of the People’s House.

  91. 91.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: Wasn’t he even once briefly a member of the KKK?

  92. 92.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 7:48 pm

    @White & Gold Purgatorian:

    Yeah, more than 700K black men and women served during WW2 and initially almost all were put into service units. By 1943/44 the Army realized it needed manpower for combat units and that’s when they realized they had an untapped cohort to use.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Yup.

    @H.E.Wolf:

    Yep! Democratic President Harry S. Truman integrated the military via Executive Order on July 28, 1948, in the middle of a presidential campaign which included a segregationist 3rd-party candidate.

    And to think that German prisoners of war were aghast when they were allowed to sit on American diners on their way to prison camps but their black guards had to eat at the back door.

  93. 93.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 24, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    @sdhays:

    Just read the wiki, it’s inconclusive.

    He certainly didn’t hold many of their views, particularly when it came to Catholics and Catholicism.

  94. 94.

    J R in WV

    November 24, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    @Kent:

    November 24, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @L85NJGT: That is an astonishing statistic.

    What explains it given that, for example, the entire country of the Philippines with over 100 million population has only seen 8,000 deaths since the start of the pandemic?

    Perhaps, not saying I could know anything factual, but perhaps, just maybe that 8,000 deaths statistic is a fuqin lie?? Maybe?

  95. 95.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    November 24, 2020 at 8:05 pm

    @MomSense:

    Fuck Paul Ryan. Just wanted to see that again.

    He has a lot to answer for, and I hope some of it is still able to come back and bite him in the ass. NRA contributions denominated in rubles, say. ?

  96. 96.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 24, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    The vile granny-starving twat that is Paul Ryan can stick a sock in any advice he cares to offer to Joe Biden.

  97. 97.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 24, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I don’t remember anything about the KKK in McCullough’s bio of HST, but he does not come across well as an ex-president in Perlstein’s Nixonland, in particular his comments about MLK

  98. 98.

    MisterForkbeard

    November 24, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    @J R in WV: Duterte absolutely lies about the PH impact from Covid, but they actually have spent an enormous amount of political and social capital on severe restrictions, especially in their cities.

    Apparently these restrictions are regularly flouted by the elite, and Duterte not only excuses them but in some cases promoted and praised those people. Most of the Filipinos I know think Duterte is basically the worst, but they’re stuck with him for the moment and continue dealing with the pandemic and following the rules. I can sympathize.

  99. 99.

    Nicole

    November 24, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    @sdhays:

    Wasn’t he even once briefly a member of the KKK?

    He absolutely was a white supremacist, and his family were unreconstructed Confederates.  That said, he was the President who first began to split the South away from their loyalty to the Democratic Party, due to his firm belief in the Constitution granting rights to all citizens.  In addition, he was really affected by Black soldiers returning from WW2 and being beaten by Whites in their hometowns.  Super complicated individual.  In some ways, when you look at how he was raised, it’s startling that he came as far along on his journey towards racial equality as he did. I think the office of the Presidency changed him to an extent.

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    November 24, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    @Nicole

    David Susskind’s 1961 interviews with Truman available on Prime. Listed as “Give ’em Hell, Harry.” Not to be confused with the later James Whitmore movie of the same title.

  101. 101.

    columbusqueen

    November 24, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: seconded.

  102. 102.

    sdhays

    November 24, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @Nicole: This is what I was getting at – I wasn’t trying to detract from what he did, but rather to point out that his integration order was a pretty huge step for him personally, not just the nation.

  103. 103.

    Miss Bianca

    November 24, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    Why, it’s almost as if Paul Ryan has forgotten a certain occasion in 2012 where some guy named Joe kicked his smarmy little ass in a debate somewhere.

  104. 104.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 24, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    Ironic.

    Wisconsin Republicans Blame Mark Zuckerberg for Trump’s Loss in Lawsuitt.co/rFT5RaOcM0— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) November 25, 2020

  105. 105.

    Brachiator

    November 24, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @J R in WV:

    What explains it given that, for example, the entire country of the Philippines with over 100 million population has only seen 8,000 deaths since the start of the pandemic?

    The low figure may be a deliberate undercount. However, only about 5.3 percent of the population of the country is age 65 or older and this may reduce the number of people who may be most at risk.

  106. 106.

    Miss Bianca

    November 24, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Oh, goodie…let the circular firing squad begin on the right, for a change!

  107. 107.

    brantl

    November 24, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Please, please, someone tell Paul Ryan to fold it until it is all corners and stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine.

  108. 108.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    November 24, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    @Mary G:

    It feels like a horror movie.

    Halloween, Pandemic.

  109. 109.

    LurkerNoLonger

    November 24, 2020 at 9:47 pm

     

     

    @Luciamia: I knew he wasn’t human. That explains it!

  110. 110.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 24, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    EARLIER: Sec. of State Mike Pompeo does not answer when a reporter asks him, "Mr. Secretary, any comments or advice for your successor?" pic.twitter.com/WRMPmV24ni— The Hill (@thehill) November 25, 2020

  111. 111.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    November 24, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: thanks for the link. I find this very moving.

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