Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

After roe, women are no longer free.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

I was promised a recession.

This blog will pay for itself.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

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  4. 4.

    burnspbesq

    There are still 70-odd million of your friends and neighbors who think he’s the coolest thing EVAH.

    And Orban didn’t succeed in destroying Hungary’s democracy on his first go-round.

    Don’t sleep on this fucker. He’s not done.

  5. 5.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    I’m looking at this report that Trump said Biden would have to prove he got all those votes. Says who? Who died and made one of the candidates the ultimate election judge?

  9. 9.

    Mike in NC

    So does anybody think that Fat Bastard is going to lower the cost of joining his “exclusive” properties like Bedminster and Mar-A-Lago now that he’s been kicked to the curb?

    Not a chance! The grift must go on. There will be lawyers to not pay.

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Stop worrying about stupid shit that Trump says about the election.  Please.  That’s over.  Yes, he can still do horrible things about to the world until Jan. 20, but he can’t change the election result.

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Mike in NC: he doubled membership fees at Mar a lago in November of ’16, and word was that a lot of people who’d been snubbing him, especially the “old money”, came around paid up. I wonder if we’ll hear about a rush of cancelled memberships.

  17. 17.

    Hildebrand

    Trump is finished.  Even if he tries to run in 2024, his political/cultural heirs are not going to wait for him to kick the bucket before trying to wrest control.  They are just as power-mad as he is, which means the attempt to put him out to pasture starts January 21 (if not as soon as the EC votes).

  19. 19.

    JPL

    @Hildebrand: trump will still be fighting indictment on state laws and international laws.   He’s done and that’s why he trying to steal the election.

  20. 20.

    MomSense

    I bought a cherry red, mint condition, barely used Epiphone ES 335 pro with a case for my youngest son for Christmas.  Got such a good deal and it’s beautiful.  He is going to be thrilled!

  23. 23.

    Zzyzx

    It’s fun watching the people in Free Republic occasionally get hope that they’ll steal the election just to having it smashed again.

  26. 26.

    Yarrow

    @Mike in NC:
    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    There are going to be so many canceled memberships. He might lower the membership fees because he needs money coming in. If that will help bring in money then he’ll do it.

    I think his biggest cash cow in the near term will be Republican candidates. He’s going to own them because he knows their secrets. To get his endorsement candidates will have to kiss his ring and give him money. He’ll bully anyone who dares go against him and keep splitting the R party.

  31. 31.

    MomSense

    There are some beautiful instruments for sale now because there are so many musicians who can’t gig because of Covid.  At least this one is going to someone who will love it.  He’s been making me watch videos of young BB, Magic Sam (Riviera technically)Freddie King, Otis Rush, Eric Clapton (but we’ll forget him FTM), Chuck Berry playing the equivalent Gibson 335. He’s going to lose his shit Christmas morning.

  36. 36.

    NeenerNeener

    @JPL: And if Vanky, Jared and Trump Jr are also fighting for their freedom in NYS courts then that leaves the 2024 nomination field open for Fvcker Carlson and Loud Obbs.

  38. 38.

    Redshift

    @Yarrow:

    Trump’s fans like him because he was a winner. He’s now a loser. They won’t like him because of it. They want a winner. 

    That’s why he’ll never stop claiming the election was stolen. I guess we’ll see how long that keeps working. Best outcome is probably that whoever sticks with Trump goes after any GOP that doesn’t keep fighting his Lost Cause (like they just did with Ronna Romney McDaniel.)

  40. 40.

    MomSense

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Heh.

    BTW I haven’t forgotten that we were all waiting for the 2016 election to be over so we could have a celebratory music thread.  I have missed those music threads.  Maybe we can summon Steep to join us.

  42. 42.

    Suzanne

    @MomSense: That is an awesome gift.

    I kinda think that a fraction of Trump’s base — but I don’t know how big a fraction — will be lost to the GOP if they don’t find a similarly Trumpy figure to lead them. There’s a part of that cohort that was only here for Trump, and they will not be there for someone like Romney or Rubio or Larry Hogan or Mike DeWine or whomever.

  44. 44.

    Yarrow

    @Redshift:  He definitely will continue to claim the election was stolen. He’s also going to announce he’s running 2024. Not that he’s going to run but for the grift. He can “suspend his campaign” at any time and keep all the cash.

    It’s kind of fun to watch the disillusioned people on Twitter or the screengrabs of Parler. They can see the courts smacking down his claims or the Supremes refusing to take up cases. Not all of them will drift away but some will. They know he’s a loser. Some will wonder if they got taken for a ride.

  45. 45.

    Suzanne

    I need some advice. Now that I am living in a 100-year-old house, I am facing a quandary I didn’t really consider, which is how to put up Christmas lights. I have no outdoor power. I’m skeptical that any solar solutions would be effective with the gray skies this time of year. How do y’all do it?

  47. 47.

    Yarrow

    @Suzanne:  I agree. They love Trump. No other Republican will do it for them.

    @JPL:
    Cotton has those dead eyes. I think at some level that will turn people off. He is definitely smarter though. That’s not a super high bar.

  48. 48.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I mean, he’s not wrong in the sense that “Trumpism” will still be around going forward. The GOP saw Trump get 73 million votes and evidently peeled away many Latinos. They’re going to do everything in their power to replicate that. Marco Rubio’s “American greatness” comments are indicative of this.

    If we don’t win those two GA Senate seats in January, it’s going to be a miserable 4 years because the GOP will do everything in their power to undermine Biden for political gain. It’s what they did to Obama and it worked pretty well for them. What’s worse, is that Republicans turn out for runoffs; the only reason Perdue didn’t win outright is that a libertarian drew votes away from him. That won’t be the case this time

    I still can’t believe Susan Collins and that POS Van Drew were comfortably reelected. Van Drew won by 6 points. What happened with the Senate?

  49. 49.

    Suzanne

    @JPL: Cotton is certainly evil and not as dumb. Hawley isn’t, either. But neither of them have that toxic garbage energy to me. Not sure if the MAGAt crowd will coalesce around either of them.

    The crockpot stuffing was pretty good! I finished it under the broiler. My husband said it was the best stuffing he’s ever had. Stuffing is one of those dishes that I am just never excited about, it’s fine. It was definitely easier than the traditional way.

  51. 51.

    Yarrow

    @Suzanne:  My neighbor unscrews a porch light and has some kind of plug thing that screws into the light socket. She then plugs the lights into that. I don’t know where she got it or any more than that.

  52. 52.

    The Dangerman

    In the future, I wonder if he can find anyone to do a single thing for him that doesn’t ask for payment in advance.

  53. 53.

    NotMax

    @Suzanne

    Solar should still power up to a point, just won’t stay lit as long as with clear uninterrupted daytime sunshine.

    Any way to ask the previous owners If they used Xmas lights and how they handled it?

  56. 56.

    Suzanne

    @NotMax: Nope. The house was owned by a couple who lived here for 62 years. He has passed, she’s in an elderly care home.

    I am wondering if there are lights that work off batteries? How well do they work?

  61. 61.

    laura

    @MomSense: did you get him the amp too? That will be one happy fellow – heck who wouldn’t want one too, I know I would, so would spouse and I’ll bet that Amir Khalid would too. Strings and pics make great stocking stuffers.

  62. 62.

    Barbara

    @Suzanne: We rewired ours to have an outlet on the porch almost as soon as we moved in. However, my parents used to run a cord through a partially open window, and then stuff some insulation in the gap.

  65. 65.

    Anotherlurker

    @MomSense: Will you be my Mom?

    I really like the the 26′ Grady-White walk-around Sport Fisherman with twin 250hp Yamahas.

    Pleeeeeeese…..?

  68. 68.

    NeenerNeener

    @West of the Rockies: He does have a built-in base as a “tv star”, though. Maybe he can endorse Tucker and get an ambassador job. Tucker and Trump Jr on the same ticket is a scary thought, but it can’t happen because neither would settle for the VP slot.

  69. 69.

    Anotherlurker

    @Suzanne: I think, in the long run, you will be happier if you hire a licensed electrician to install 2 GFIs.   If the house’s electric service will be up to the task.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    @West of the Rockies: Garage is detached in the back of the house. And we have a porch light, but I’m not sure how comfortable I am chaining cords together.

    @Barbara: My master plan for the house is to have some power put out there, along with upgraded 200A service, but we just moved in at the end of the summer and we haven’t gotten to it yet. COVID has slowed us down because we don’t want workers in the house.

    I think I’m gonna stick with indoor stuff. I have a couple of those outdoor projectors, but those probably won’t look good with this architecture anyway. I was wondering if there are any of those nice reindeer figures that can stand in the yard that aren’t lit up. Weird.

  72. 72.

    Yarrow

    @Suzanne:  I have some solar lights and they work ok. I’ve had them for several years and have replaced the batteries, which helped. They do okay but after several hours they go out. It might be worth trying a string of them to go along the porch railing or something just to see what you think. They weren’t too expensive when I got mine.

  73. 73.

    Suzanne

    @Anotherlurker: You are correct. I definitely want to have GFCIs put out there. We are planning to have the whole house rewired and increase the service. It isn’t going to happen until this fucking pandemic is in hand. It is difficult to get trades right now (construction demand is bonkers ATM) and I don’t want anyone in the house.

  78. 78.

    frosty

    @MomSense: Oh, hell, I didn’t think about all the non-gigging musicians. Probably not the best time to downsize the posse. It can wait, I guess, my extra guitars* don’t take up much room.

    * But is there such a thing, really?

  79. 79.

    L85NJGT

    Pay an electrician to run some GFCI circuits to the exterior (also to bathrooms & kitchen). That assumes a breaker panel with open slots. If it’s an old school fuse box, you should replace it at some point, but that’s more costly than running a circuit (couple of thousand vs. couple of hundred per outlet).

  82. 82.

    Yutsano

    @MomSense:

    I don’t know how I’m going to wait for Christmas.

    Is there any rule that says you have to? He really should be strumming that bad boy right away.

  84. 84.

    MomSense

    @frosty:

    I’m not the right person to ask – I’m absolutely an enabler when it comes to guitars.  My son’s fiancée is a pianist and their little apartment is furnished with pianos.  They have these running jokes about asking people if they want a piano, but he gets it and would never ask her to downsize for real.

  85. 85.

    TS (the original)

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka):

    What happened with the Senate?

    Never trumpers were exactly that – they turned out to vote against trump – but not against any other republican. Don’t look for esoteric reasons – all republicans think they should rule – some just didn’t like trump.

  87. 87.

    TS (the original)

    @MomSense:

    Your delightful post surely proves the point – it is better to give than receive. I love buying gifts for the young ones – and spend forever trying to decide what will give them the biggest smile.

  88. 88.

    debbie

    @WaterGirl:

    Totally O/T and apologies, but somewhere here today someone brought up ad issues on their Android. I was on my iPad Mini a couple of hours ago, and this was on the page: A big ad in the middle of the blue space up top with the balloon guy, four separate ads dispersed throughout the opening post, and then ads every four comments for the first 16 comments.

  89. 89.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    @Suzanne: I have purchased multiple Xmas lights which run off batteries, are rain resistant, and have timers.  My favorite source is Grandinroad.com.

  90. 90.

    mrmoshpotato

    i do appreciate the trump campaign’s strategy of codifying, in multiple courts across the nation, how fair and well run the election was. coulda just taken the L but instead has allowed everyone to lay out in meticulous detail how clean the election was. thanks buddy.

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  91. 91.

    debbie

    @MomSense:

    Something’s in the air: the radio program I’m listening to right now is playing Muddy Water’s “Mannish Boy” (live version) — which I saw performed close to 50 years ago at Paul’s Mall in Boston!

  92. 92.

    Bill Arnold

    @Baud:
    There will be an intense effort to rehabilitate him. Let’s make it fail.
    Yes. Be proactive and visible to the media about defining such people. Also including emerging authoritarians.

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    @Yarrow:

    I’m kind of hoping to see Trump greeted in Georgia by, like, five or six diehards chanting, “Four more years! Four more years!” And nobody else.

  94. 94.

    Keith P.

    @L85NJGT: I replaced my breaker box last year (I had one of those old ones where the fuses are dangerous).  Cost almost $3k to replace the thing, but it had to be done, since the AC kept blowing a fuse in the middle of summer.

  99. 99.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Scout211: Be aware of the total wattage that that socket was designed to flow. 60W? Maybe 100? It won’t be much. Some modern holiday lights that are LED don’t draw much, but be aware.

  102. 102.

    different-church-lady

    @Yarrow:

    I don’t know where she got it or any more than that.

    Any decently stocked neighborhood hardware store will have one. They seem esoteric, but they’re not at all hard to get.

  104. 104.

    Feathers

    The lawsuits are deliberately shitty because they are a loyalty test. The intention is to get the true believers to distrust the courts when the courts inevitably (and rightly) throw them out. H/T Asha Rangappa Original Tweet

    But the problem is that propaganda and disinformation lie outside of either of these models. When we encounter propaganda and disinformation, its origins—the sources that produced it and the method used to arrive at the result—are typically obscured. Propaganda and disinformation neither offer a skilled argument, nor do they invite rigorous testing. Propaganda and disinformation are persuasion without consent: In fact, by offering new versions of “facts,” their authors try to hide that they’re persuading us at all. These forms of communication provide a conclusion based on manipulation rather than reason. Propaganda and disinformation create a realm where disbelief is disloyalty, rather than a shared attempt to search for truth. THE ANCIENT GREEKS’ GUIDE TO REJECTING PROPAGANDA AND DISINFORMATION

  105. 105.

    Mike in NC

    Wife says a new episode of SNL is on tonight. Expect they might feature Crazy Rudy and the QAnon lady lawyer.

  106. 106.

    Bill Arnold

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Who died and made one of the candidates the ultimate election judge?

    A funny thing is that the mechanisms that they’re proposing (to be clear, some of them are physically impossible) would just as easily support an assertion that there was massive pro-Trump election rigging in some battleground states, just not enough to overcome the unexpectedly large (and cough un-lost/late) mail-in/absentee voting. And in this slight variant (just a sign change, as a math person would say) on current Republican election rigging conspiracy theories, no way did Trump get 70 million votes in 2020. 63 million, tops! :-) I am so tempted to spread this, but will try to wait at least until after the EC voting. (Also the 2016 election, and certain statewide races in 2018, to flesh out the conspiracy theory. :-)
    The hand recounts and risk limiting audits seem to make it clear (where there’s a paper trail at least) that fraud and rigging didn’t happen. Just a super-high-turnout election. e.g. my county had heavy-used early voting, and even so, on election day, the poling station lines, normally non-existent (like 1-2 persons) were about 30-40 minutes. (And deferred counting of mail-in votes to create a Red Mirage.)

  107. 107.

    Dan B

    @Suzanne: The plug in adapter for the porch light allows you to keep the porch light.  They should be available at True Value Hardware.  You can probably find them on the internet as well.  LED Xmas lights use very little power so you can use inexpensive and lightweight extension cords if you keep them under the eaves.

    Battery power either requires expensive rechargeable batteries or replacing lots of batteries.  Finding battery powered lights could be tough – very small market*

    *I see someone found battery powered.

  109. 109.

    mrmoshpotato

    I’m not tired of winning.  And definitely not tired of Trump trash losing!

    Let’s chalk up another two on January 5th!  Warnock and Ossoff!

  111. 111.

    AnotherBruce

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): I’m not sure of this, but I read somewhere that the GOP would have to defend 44 seats in 2022.  As compared to 22 seats for the Democrats. Also there are 2 retiring senators leaving open GOP seats. So maybe not so bad if this round doesn’t work out.

    Of course, we’re going to make sure to keep the house.

  112. 112.

    Miss Bianca

    @Luciamia:

    Tom Cotton?? A talking tree would have more charisma.

    A talking tree would have WAY more charisma. Probably appeal to the Extreme Left too!

  114. 114.

    trnc

    @MomSense: Nice! When I got my first real guitar in the early 80s, I chose an ES 335 over a ’76 Les Paul for the same price. Kinda mad at myself later because the LP would have been worth more over time, but the 335 was really great.

  115. 115.

    Suzanne

    @L85NJGT: I have a much larger electrical scope ahead (full rewire, new panel, new outlet locations), but I can’t get it done before the holiday. I am trying to figure out what will look good in the interim.

  118. 118.

    Ken

    I’m watching the 1951 The Thing on Svengoolie.  They just hit my favorite scene  – when the men spread out on the ice to find the shape of the buried aircraft, and it’s a circle….  Still gives me a chill.

  121. 121.

    CaseyL

    @TS (the original): Like what happened in the  Kentucky Governor’s race: Bevin was so roundly, widely loathed that he lost to a Democrat… but the state legislature stayed in GOP hands.

  126. 126.

    Redshift

    @Suzanne:

    I was wondering if there are any of those nice reindeer figures that can stand in the yard that aren’t lit up. 

    Oh, there definitely are. Check craft stores.

    And there have been battery powered light strings forever. We have one that’s powered by two D batteries that must be at least twenty years old.

  132. 132.

    lgerard

    Note that Donnie one putt picks up his ball after missing the putt

    “Hey kid, mark that down as a birdie”

  135. 135.

    TomatoQueen

    My parents lived in a neighborhood where anything more than one electric candle in each street-facing window, with a netting of blinky lights (always white) over the two shrubs on either side of the front door, would raise an eyebrow.

    Vermont Country Store charges too much (duh) for this version:https://www.vermontcountrystore.com/electric-window-candle-in-3-sizes/product/53370

    which is  nice at night, in a neighborhood full of the same thing. New England conformity is erm inescapable at times.

  138. 138.

    Amir Khalid

    This be amusing. CNN reports that, put off by Trump’s talk about the election being rigged, some Republican voters in Georgia are asking why they should vote in the Senate runoffs.

  142. 142.

    NotMax

    @Yutsano

    Maybe Jared can find a flunky to set up an “alternative voting” web site, where they can VOTE ONLINE! After payment of a ‘modest’ fee for the privilege.

    Then Giuliani can go to court to grouse that those vote totals must be counted in the official tally.

  143. 143.

    TS (the original)

    @CaseyL:

    Seems hating someone  is a great GOTV option. Changes someone’s vote for that person only, they stay with party down the ballot. Probably what ensures polls are not correct as well.

  146. 146.

    Matt McIrvin

    @TS (the original): I am seriously wondering if Trump had negative coattails–if he got a bunch of these Republicans elected just by turning out conservatives to vote against him.

    But it still seems unlikely to me, because an anti-Trump conservative seems like the kind of politically involved person who would be a very reliable voter to begin with, so being motivated by anti-Trump animus probably wouldn’t increase their propensity to vote downballot. I don’t know.

  147. 147.

    Mike in NC

    Will Trump subject the country to a Farewell Address like Ike did? It would only become a two hour long Airing of Grievances.

  149. 149.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @AnotherBruce: In 2022 the Republicans will be defending 22 seats in the Senate and the Democrats 12 seats.

    The Democrat likely at most (but not much) risk is Mark Kelly in Colorado.

    Republicans most at risk are Richard Burr (NC), Pat Toomey (PA) and Ron Johnson (WI).

    The Senate will be up for grabs.

  150. 150.

    WaterGirl

    @satby: @debbie:

    Just so you know, I did not receive any email notification of those forms.  The last one I have was on 11/27, but after seeing these messages, I looked on the server, and there are 6 submissions that did not arrive by email.

    I’m looking now to see what’s going on with the email notifications.

  152. 152.

    Amir Khalid

    @Mike in NC:

    Hard to tell. Trump might well decide that the ingrates who ignored his brilliant handling of the pandemic and voted for Sleepy Joe instead don’t deserve to hear his beautiful, powerful, bigly valedictory address.

  155. 155.

    dmsilev

    @NotMax: Given what the K-Pop brigade did to his limited-availability rally tickets this summer, I strongly support this approach. I’m sure utter hilarity would ensue.

  157. 157.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Jeffro: Trump was unique in that he wasn’t previously in politics, was “viewed” as a successful businessman(therefore was smart) and was on the TV machine(probably getting him an extra 1 to 2% of the vote).  These other guys don’t have that, they can speak the words, but they’re part of the swamp.

    ETA: The only person that’s been talked about that might fit this is Fucker Carlson(on the TV machine, wealthy(though inherited, though same with Trump), and not in politics).

  159. 159.

    WaterGirl

    @satby:

    When you submitted the site feedback form, did you receive an email confirmation?

    I did not receive one with my test submission just now.

    I was able to go in through the Forms on WordPress, so I now have the attachments that satby and beautiful plumage sent.

    I will let John know about the ad situation.  thanks

  161. 161.

    lgerard

    @NotMax:

    There are some great stories in Rick Reily’s book on trump and golf.

    One that I remember.  trump was in PA at his golf course there and was going to compete in its tournament until he learned that one of the members was a seriously good golfer that he would never be able to beat.

    So instead, trump went to a nearby course that day and played a round.  That night he called his club manager and asked what the winning score in the tournament was.  He then informed the manager that since he had shot a lower score at the other course, he should be named tournament winner.

    And so he was.

  162. 162.

    smedley the uncertain

    @Suzanne: Old House here, new section 1850, older ca 1837. First year used door light with adapter to fit extension cord plug.  Available at hardware stores.  Adapter allows cord plug and doorway light bulb.  Limited to area around door way/porch but pretty.  Most of our lights are indoors around the windows except for the wreath and garlands around front door.  eventually punched a holes thru foundation beam and installed a proper outlets as well as antenna feeds.

  164. 164.

    Jeffro

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: true, but every election is different, and now these neo-trumpies know the playbook.  They know just how far their own party will enable them (all the way and then some) and how well the media will abet them (fucking AMAZINGLY far).

    It’s a tall order but Dems better get better at reminding their voters: these scumbags are out to get you and destroy our democracy.  They’ll impoverish you and make you a third-class citizen without a moment’s hesitation.

  169. 169.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax:

    Maybe Jared can find a flunky to set up an “alternative voting” web site, where they can VOTE ONLINE! After payment of a ‘modest’ fee for the privilege.

    Then Giuliani can go to court to grouse that those vote totals must be counted in the official tally.

    And then Lady Justice can punt all of this trash into the Sun.

  170. 170.

    Chris Johnson

    Partly ‘cos of this thread I did a deep dive on ES-335s :)

    And then Steve Howe’s Close To The Edge guitar, which was an ES-345

    And then the Gibson Varitone circuit, which I would be able to build, which is some capacitors and a switch and a 1.5 henry choke (inductor) which makes a notch filter. Which a lot of people don’t like, but it helped make a bunch of sounds I absolutely love, and I could totally build one from parts :)

    And I have an Ibanez ES-175 copy. So now I have a plan to make a ‘Yes’ type electric guitar that is sort of a hybrid of all the stuff I grew up loving, and didn’t know how it was done.

    So thanks. Happy Thanksgiving, and cheers all :)

  174. 174.

    Yutsano

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: If/when he wins in 2022 then Kelly will serve a full term. The Republicans will be gunning for this seat hard but I don’t foresee Kelly losing it.

    What might be interesting is if Johnson retires his seat to run for governor of Wisconsin. That would make three open seats. Either way I think Johnson is vulnerable.

  176. 176.

    Sebastian

    @Anne Laurie:

    December 5th is traditionally Krampus, which sorts of excuse to have more or less adult themed parties, and on Dec 6th is Nikolo where kids get (very) small presents and per tradition a red bag filled with tangerines and in-shell peanuts. Sometimes chocolate coins wrapped in gold paper.

    The big presents day is Dec 24th -after- dinner, which has driven generations of kids mad to have to sit and wait while adults can’t seem to finish their meal.

    The presents were brought by the Christchild (literally Baby Jesus) while the kids took a nap or are otherwise distracted while grandparents arrive with luggage despite staying only for dinner.

    Eastern Block countries used to have the big present exchange on New Years Eve because no Jesus under commies of course  but I don’t think anyone does this anymore.

  179. 179.

    fake irishman

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    Kelly is in AZ and vulnerable,  Cortez-Matso in NV will be competitive and Hassen in NH will likely face a tough race against a popular incumbent governor. GA will be a fight as well, no matter who wins the special.

    Toomey is retiring, so possibility there. Agree on the other two as well.  Maybe an open seat in Iowa (but that’s a longshot)

  181. 181.

    lgerard

    @Obvious Russian Troll:

    I still vote in Wisconsin. I am really looking forward to voting against America’s Dumbest Senator in 2022.

    Sadly, with the election of Tommy Tuberville, Johnson has lost his sole claim to fame

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    Yutsano

    @lgerard:

    Sadly, with the election of Tommy Tuberville

    Oh Lawd. The Emissary (Ben Cisco) had words about that man in the 10pm Zoom meeting. If we thought Gohmert was dumb…

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    Omnes Omnibus

    @lgerard: All due respect for Tuberville, but I have to stand up for the abject stupidity of Ron Johnson.  When Wisconsin does dumb, we do way dumb.

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    TS (the original)

    @Matt McIrvin:

    an anti-Trump conservative seems like the kind of politically involved person who would be a very reliable voter to begin with

    I could be 100% wrong – but this is my theory – they didn’t vote in 2016 – because neither candidate seemed worth the effort – but in 2020 – they had seen the disaster of trump.

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    Sister Golden Bear

    @Ken: “The Thing,” a movie about a group of people who don’t really even like each other (at least in the John Carpenter version), stuck together in a single, snowbound location, trying to figure out who has a terrifying infection, counts as a Christmas movie this year.

    #ChangeMyMind

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    J R in WV

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    The Democrat likely at most (but not much) risk is Mark Kelly in Colorado.

    Captain Kelly is a USN pilot, astronaut, married to former Congresswoman Giffords, hero from Arizona. Not in any danger in my book.

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    Patricia Kayden

    Donald Trump doesn’t scare me. His worm-like offspring don’t either. What scares me is the pathway to power he carved out. A pathway of lies, hatred, racism, corruption and malfeasance. What SCARES me is that someone more intelligent will pick up where Trump left off.— Robert of the Holts ☘️?? (@rhholt) November 25, 2020

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