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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Sunday and Monday: A Post and a Zoom on Tom Levenson’s Money for Nothing, and a Chance To Win an Audio Version of the Book

Sunday and Monday: A Post and a Zoom on Tom Levenson’s Money for Nothing, and a Chance To Win an Audio Version of the Book

by WaterGirl|  December 4, 20208:05 pm| 82 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Balloon Juice Zooms, Books, Open Threads

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We have two events coming up – one on Sunday and one on Monday. Both feature our own Tom Levenson, so if you want an overdose of same, here’s your chance.

We’ll be talking about Tom’s new book…

Medium Cool with BGinCHI – Tom Levenson's New Book! 1

…which is about a bunch of stuff centered on the South Sea Bubble of 1720–the first great stock market boom, fraud, bubble and bust.  There are all-too-obvious connections to our own day, which we can talk about. Also, the book spends a fair amount of time connecting financial innovation, with all the wealth and woe that has carried with it, to the larger change in how people were figuring out the material world back than, a transformation we now call the scientific revolution. That too is still with us.

A good time will be had by all (or the beatings will continue, in Balloon Juice’s finest tradition.)

The details:

Sunday at 6pm:  Medium Cool – Money for Nothing: Ask Me Anything with Tom Levenson

Monday at 8pm:  Balloon Juice Zoom – Money for Nothing: Ask Me Anything with Tom Levenson
(8pm is the tentative time; final time to be determined):

Everyone is welcome to attend one or both sessions.

?Tom was able to score 4 audio passes (!) for Money for Nothing, to be given as gifts at the events.

How do I sign up to have a chance to win an audio pass, you ask?

Comment below as you normally would, but if you want to be in the drawings for the gifts, say so in the comments.  Be sure to indicate whether you plan to do the Medium Cool Post, the Zoom, or both.

I will scan the comments for MC, ZOOM, or BOTH

I will also try to read the comments a bit more closely – for those who either won’t read the entire post or who might have read it but are unlikely to follow directions.  Yes, I have met you guys before.  :-)

?More About The Zoom

Zoom will be hosted and moderated by Immanentize.

We’ll start with about 15 minutes BGinCHI asking Tom some questions, author-to-author.  Then we’ll go to questions from the audience.

Everyone will start out muted, but you can enter your questions for Tom through Chat function, either while BG and Tom are talking, or afterwards.

If you like, you can even ask your questions in the comments of this post, and we’ll collect those for the Zoom, too.

We’re still working out the final details for the format, but we’ll share them as soon as we can.

IMPORTANT:  We want to avoid unwanted visitors crashing the zoom, so if you want to attend the zoom, please send me email so I can reply with the Zoom password.

Open thread.

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82Comments

  1. 1.

    Mary G

    December 4, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    Already purchased the Audible version, so don’t want to be in the drawing.  Highly recommend it!

    Will try to attend Sunday, depending on status of Christmas decorating.

  2. 2.

    Benw

    December 4, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    I’d come but I gotta move these refrigerators

  3. 3.

    trollhattan

    December 4, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    Psst, Secret Zoom password: Zoom

  4. 4.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    I’d love to attend! I have the next few days off, so I have some free time.

    Here’s a question I have for Mr. Levenson:

    Have you ever read The Half Has Never Been Told by Edward E. Baptist? It’s a book that details the origins of American Capitalism from American chattel slavery. If so, do you have any thoughts about it?

    I had the opportunity to read it during a college Early American history course and thought it was very insightful as well as powerful

  5. 5.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 4, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    @Benw: Don’t forget the microwave ovens.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    @Benw: That made me laugh.  Is that a polite way of saying you are not interested?

  7. 7.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): Which one are you planning to attend, Goku?  Or is it both?

  8. 8.

    trollhattan

    December 4, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Color TV.

    NB My child does not believe me that one once had color/not color options when selecting a television. Nor further, that most television programs broadcast was not color and there was considerable debate whether the significant extra cost and technical pickiness were worth the bother.

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    @trollhattan: I guess you don’t need to send me the email since you already know the password.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @trollhattan:  I can see why s/he is skeptical… I suppose you had to walk 5 miles to school every day, and it was uphill both ways?

  11. 11.

    trollhattan

    December 4, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @WaterGirl:&nbsp
    Right? We’re a smart bunch. :-)

  12. 12.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I guess both, just in case anything comes up and I can’t attend one. Do you remember my email address or do you want me to send an email?

  13. 13.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 4, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    I wanna win a thing please and I’ll most likely attend both zoom meetings.

    It’s either that ir wash the cat.

    Also, here’s a cat with a vacuum.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): I am not going to look up email addresses.  :-)

    Up top I ask for all Zoom folks to send me an email message that I can reply to with the password.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): Hey Goku.  I know the title is Ask Me Anything, but with the event only being an hour or so, it might be better to ask a question related to Tom’s book or area of study?

  16. 16.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): because the perfect question to ask in a book chat centered on an author’s book is a question about another book entirely. You really are a piece of work.

  17. 17.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @WaterGirl: @satby: As far as I can tell, this isn’t the AMA.  So better here than there, right?

  18. 18.

    FelonyGovt

    December 4, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @trollhattan:  We were the last on our block to have a color TV.

    I would love to attend the Zoom on Sunday and be entered in the drawing (although I expect to buy the Kindle edition). WaterGirl, I will email you.

  19. 19.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: ?

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    @FelonyGovt: Great!  I’ll look for your email.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Good point.  But I did say I could collect questions if people submitted them here, so I though that was what Goku was intending.  Though I may have misunderstood.

  22. 22.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: coulda sworn this was what we (me formerly) in the detective trade used to call “a clue”:

    We’ll be talking about Tom’s new book…

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @WaterGirl: Goku always thinks I am picking on him, so I thought I would toss up a half-hearted defense this time.

  24. 24.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @satby: Ha!  You make a good point.

  25. 25.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s the thought that counts.

  26. 26.

    NotMax

    December 4, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    One could adequately point to the Mississippi Company bubble as an example pre-dating the South Seas debacle.

    /history nerd

  27. 27.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @satby:

    You really are a piece of work.

    Thanks for reminding me I’m such a piece of shit fuck up. I know I’m a fuck up. I don’t know why I even fucking bother half the time

  28. 28.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 4, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @Benw: Yes, but do you have a blister on your little finger?

  29. 29.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka):

    Act 1 throw out something to derail a topic

    Act 2 get a response pointing out the derail

    Act 3 butthurt

    Act 4 people not as cognizant of your M.O. rush in to defend poor little you, further derailing any conversation.

    mission accomplished, you.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: I have one on my thumb.

  31. 31.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: come help me move this color TV

  32. 32.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    @satby:

    How the fuck else did you expect me to react? You blatantly attacked me. I thought it was a nice question related to the topic of the book: financial history. I wasn’t trying to fucking derail anything! I said the other night I just wanted to move on.

  33. 33.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @satby: Sorry, I am moving a refrigerator.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): You have acquired non-fans.  Deal with it.  Everyone on this blog won’t like you.  Expecting that they would is unrealistic.

  35. 35.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 4, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I shoulda learned to play the guitar

  36. 36.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: I shoulda learned to play the drums.

  37. 37.

    Amir Khalid

    December 4, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Bianca’s litter tray is now empty. Her food and water bowls have been put away. There’s still about 2kg of her food that she doesn’t need anymore. I didn’t get to kiss her head this morning.

  38. 38.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: @satby: I want my MTV.

  39. 39.

    FelonyGovt

    December 4, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @Just One More Canuck: Maybe get a blister on your thumb

    ETA Omnes beat me to it

  40. 40.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Maybe she has a point? In the past I have made “scenes” to say the least.

    I know not everyone is going to like me. I get it. But she didn’t have to do what she did. I meant no harm; I didn’t think before I typed; I admit it probably isn’t a good question to ask an author at a zoom event for their book. It was something I knew about the subject, I thought they were related, and wanted to ask the question. I thought it was relevant. I didn’t think anything of it at the time

    I’m just so sick of drama crap like this. I just want it to stop

  41. 41.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @Amir Khalid: ?? Oh Amir. Big virtual hug my friend. They leave huge holes when they leave us.

  42. 42.

    No name

    December 4, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @Amir Khalid: My heart hurts for you.  I am so sorry.

  43. 43.

    FelonyGovt

    December 4, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I am so, so sorry for your loss. It’s especially hard seeing their food bowl and little toys and so on. ?

  44. 44.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka): My last comment on this.  “Don’t start no shit.  Won’t be no shit.”

  45. 45.

    Aleta

    December 4, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: He can reasonably expect to not be repeatedly demeaned and personally attacked on John’s blog, since there’s a comment policy against targeted harassment of other commenters.

  46. 46.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Here’s the thing: I didn’t even mean to. It was a dumb comment in retrospect, but it was just a dumb comment that could’ve been ignored

  47. 47.

    lurker

    December 4, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    @Benw:

    @WaterGirl:

     

    this ain’t … working

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

  48. 48.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    @Aleta: pointing out a rude question in a planned event isn’t targeted harrassment. It could be a teachable moment. But thanks, we were missing the Act 4 player, who can usually be relied on to be you.

    It’s a game, but not mine. I’m normally not even on at night.

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: Did you miss the news?

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    @FelonyGovt: @Omnes Omnibus:

    I appear to have missed the origin of the blister on the thumb thing.  Can someone enlighten me?

  51. 51.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: Bianca passed away this morning our time.

  52. 52.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @satby:

    Look. You’re entirely right. It was a rude comment. I’m sorry. I didn’t think it through. I’ll try to police myself better in the future. Have a nice night and stay safe

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    December 4, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Oh, I am feeling for you. It is so, so hard.

  54. 54.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @WaterGirl: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Oh my gosh, Amir, I did not know you had lost Bianca.  I am so sorry.  I have been so busy with the calendar that I haven’t been able to read most of the threads for the better part of a week.

  56. 56.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    @WaterGirl: The Dire Straits song.

  57. 57.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s the lyrics to a Dire Straits song

  58. 58.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @satby: Thank you.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I did.  As soon as I saw satby’s comment I deleted my clueless one.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @Aleta: And yet you keep up your low key campaign of general disappointment in me.

  61. 61.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    @WaterGirl: Yeah, I didn’t think you were trying to taunt him, but it’s also why I didn’t say it directly.

  62. 62.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Come sit 6 feet away from me, because we’re probably both in that category. We’ll have to bear it as best we can.

    wait, now I’m a satay? I hope peanut satay. I like that.

  63. 63.

    Aleta

    December 4, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    @satby:  You often insult him.   You’ve tried to shame him several times for making his own decisions about masks and  working in a grocery store.  Seems like targeting to me.

  64. 64.

    satby

    December 4, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    @Aleta: funny you left out the context around those comments, but whatev. We all have a POV. I’m bored now.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    @satby: Sometimes I curse you (in the nicest possible way) for having a nym that autocorrect insists on “correcting”.  I suppose it would lear if it was a capital S, but that’s not how you spell it.

  66. 66.

    Goku (Amerikan Baka)

    December 4, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    @Aleta:

    I appreciate what you’re doing, but I think it’s best to just let this go. Satby has made her mind up about me. And maybe she’s right about how I act sometimes. It’s just something I need to work on. I “spoke” without thinking and made a careless, dumb, and rude comment. I’ve done it before.

  67. 67.

    Just One More Canuck

    December 4, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I’m so sorry Amir. My condolences

  68. 68.

    RedDirtGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    We were the first divorce in the neighborhood when I was a kid. @FelonyGovt:

  69. 69.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    December 4, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    @Amir Khalid:  I’m so sorry for your loss. They leave such big paw prints on our hearts.

  70. 70.

    RedDirtGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:47 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I’m so sorry to hear your news.

  71. 71.

    RedDirtGirl

    December 4, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    dead thread?

  72. 72.

    Tom Levenson

    December 4, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    @Goku (Amerikan Baka):

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    @satby:

    Not to rev up a beef that I hope is dead, (in fact the reverse)…

    1. sorry for not piping up earlier–dinner and helping my son with some school work intervened.
    2. Don’t mind the original question–it seems OK to me to ask a writer if they were influenced by or simply liked another work connected to the topic.
    3. As it happens, I know of that book but haven’t read it–I’m kind of a seventeenth/eighteenth c. kind of guy, more centered on the scientific revolution and its implications and effects than on finance. It just happened that a big effect was on early financial capitalism (and on 21st c. such shenanigans as well, as it turns out. All those physics PhDs mathing up financial derivatives).

    So–friends?

  73. 73.

    Tom Levenson

    December 4, 2020 at 10:58 pm

    @Amir Khalid: So sad.

    I am very sorry for your loss. It’s terrible when our shorter lived companions have the presumption to leave us.

  74. 74.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 4, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    @Tom Levenson: You’re no fun.

  75. 75.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 4, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    We feel you.

    So does the Kop.

  76. 76.

    lurker

    December 4, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: am interested in the chats.  More likely to make sunday than monday.  I will email you about the password, to confirm that trollhattan has it correct. Email will likely come from a different email than the one I registered with on the site.  Am also interested in a drawing for the audio code.  Do you want a drawing of a cat? dog? sun and moon?  (Keeping in mind I have skills for stick figures…)  Still, drawing would be better than moving refrigerators or color tvs.

  77. 77.

    Amir Khalid

    December 4, 2020 at 11:32 pm

    @WaterGirl: 
    That’s all right. No offence taken.

  78. 78.

    NoraLenderbee

    December 4, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    @satby: JFC, stop already.

  79. 79.

    Middlelee

    December 5, 2020 at 12:08 am

    I want to attend the Monday Zoom.  Please send secret password.

    Thanks, Constance

  80. 80.

    sab

    December 5, 2020 at 12:28 am

    I am partly through Levenson’s book. Wow.

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2020 at 12:41 am

    Making people jump through additional hoops to get the password seems overkill. With four Zooms on turkey day there was a grand total of one noxious a-hole, who was booted right quick.

    Also, no way to determine if the person sending you the e-mail is legit or troll.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2020 at 10:44 am

    @lurker: Ha!

    When you write, can you include that you are the “lurker” who wrote comment #76?  Or if you’ve already written, can you write again so I can make the connection?

    thanks

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