It will never stop being funny to me how terrified of cities the American Right is https://t.co/8xHepBa28Z
— Connor Wroe Southard ⚔️?? (@ConnorSouthard) December 7, 2020
Plan B: March around the Supreme Court 7x and blow a shofar. https://t.co/yyAyO3x5NT
— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) December 8, 2020
Traffic alert, per local station WTOP:
… According to the event’s website, which provides no contact information, around 17,000 supporters say they’re headed to the District for a rally around the National Sylvan Theater on the Mall — which is currently closed — from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m…
ShutdownDC has launched an effort in newsletters and social media posts, saying “conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, Proud Boys and MAGA supporters marched on our streets while refusing to wear masks” in November. And they’re asking local hotels, including the JW Marriott DC, the Grand Hyatt Washington, Crowne Plaza Crystal City and the Holiday Inn National Airport, to refuse rooms to MAGA March attendees.
D.C. police have released some expected street closures and no-parking areas, from Friday through Sunday…
The DCist website has info on a number of counter-protests.
PaulWartenberg
What’s the snow gonna be like? I hope it’s like 6 feet worth.
sdhays
@PaulWartenberg: No snow in DC forecast for this weekend. It looks like it’s actually going to be in the 60’s.
Mary G
Jane Mayer’s got a piece in the New Yorker that Dianne Feinstein’s in cognitive decline.
and
I guess I’ll write her tomorrow asking her to resign. I still can’t forgive her hugging Lindsey Graham and praising how well he ran the confirmation hearings for Amy Covid Barrett.
ETA:
gene108
@Mary G:
Sigh…if only McConnell were in cognitive decline
Edit: I wonder, if she can be at least convinced to not seek re-election. The Senate is one helluva a drug, so few voluntarily quit.
Alison Rose
The way these people act about Trump makes BTS fans look calm and detached.
HumboldtBlue
“Snitch in a ditch” has been found out.
America has lost its way.
Parfigliano
She can go gracefully or after some horribly embarrassing incident….one way or the other she has to go ASAP
Sister Golden Bear
There are certain sections of D.C., Herr MAGAt, that I wouldn’t advise you to try to invade.
I’m also going to have to write Feinstein’s office asking her to resign. I’ve never been a big fan of her, but I voted for her in her last election on the theory that her experience and detailed knowledge of Senate procedure would be invaluable in thwarting the Republicans. This probably explains why I’ve been so sorely disappointed. Plus it’s just sad.
different-church-lady
Annnnd just like that we’re back to “No Sleep Until January”:
Yes, the suit is widely held to be absurd. And the representatives of SEVEN-FUCKING-TEEN states have signed on to the absurdity.
We are very very close to “Fuck it all, let’s just smash and grab this thing for Trump.” Do we really have a lot of confidence the SCOTUS won’t just let it proceed for shits and giggles and then decide join in on the fuck-it?
Ruckus
@Mary G:
Writing a letter to the gov might be a good idea. 2 new senators? Gav would have his hands full.
Mary G
@gene108: If she was up in 2022, I’d say let her bumble through, but her current term has four years to go.
MisterForkbeard
@gene108: If she had to backoff from committee chairmanship, she almost certainly isn’t going to run. And wouldn’t be surprised if she retired.
West of the Rockies
I hope DiFi steps away.
I stupefied that with Trump I am unable to truly and effectively articulate my level of rage and disdain for him and his minions.
Words that normally have power: vile, loathsome, grotesque… strung together don’t even approach adequate description.
That we have to put up with 70,000,000 stupid, hateful people is infuriating.
Yutsano
Can my state stay the fuck out of the news for a little while please and thank you?
Ruckus
@gene108:
If she’s in this much decline at 87 she won’t be running in 4 yrs.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@gene108: She’s not up for re-election until 2024.
mrmoshpotato
BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Fucking assclown snowflakes.
Also (too), fixed.
West of the Rockies
@different-church-lady:
I want repercussions. When Biden assumes office, if he can–without doing anything Trumpian–castrate these A-holes, I would cheer.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: The Court didn’t seem to be too amused by yesterday’s effort.
Anya
@Mary G: I find this so sad. I don’t know why her loved ones have not done an intervention of sort. Do they not care about her legacy or her dignity?
Yutsano
@Mary G: I’m trying to imagine my reaction if this was one of my Senators. If this involved Patty or Maria I wouldn’t hesitate to write them to ask them to resign with dignity. I think. It’s really hard. I feel for you California.
HumboldtBlue
@Sister Golden Bear:
Happy Anniversary my sister. I missed the earlier thread.
I think Feinstein will resign and while hindsight is always spot-on, she should have refused to run again in ’18.
Ruckus
@West of the Rockies:
The level of human that shitforbrains is makes expressing much about him difficult. You are correct, the level of words that match what and who he really is don’t exist in english at the level necessary to fully describe him. And worse that some people are so overwhelming in support of him says some rather extremely bad things about a way too large portion of our country and politics. And worse, a lot of the blame can be laid at the feet of another man, Rupert Murdoch, not that he’s alone in this.
Citizen Alan
@Anya: I’m just speculating here, but doesn’t she have to make it through half her term for her appointed replacement to be allowed to complete her term outright rather than there be a special election? I’d thought that was the rule but I’m too frustrated by our shithole country to be bothered to look it up.
Sister Golden Bear
@HumboldtBlue: Being a senator is a helluva drug.
different-church-lady
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah, but we didn’t have an entire group of official AGs pushing yesterday’s effort.
Oh, how long can SCOTUS hold out? How can they possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could erase their very existence? Can they withstand the temptation… {AGs picks SCOTUS up and holds them over to the button} …to push the button that, even now, beckons them closer? {They set SCOTUS on the table and push their heads towards the button} Will they succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate democracy? {They pound their butts down on SCOTUS’s head to force them even closer} At the MERE PUSH of a SINGLE BUTTON! {They roll SCOTUS on the table like a rolling pin} The beeyootiful shiny button! {They forcefully pushe SCOTUS’s heads toward the button again} The jolly candy-like button! Will they hold out, folks? CAN they hold out?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Citizen Alan: Gov Gav would appoint a replacement that would have to run in 2022 for the remainder of DiFi’s term if she were to resign
ETA: Actually that’s how DiFi was first elected as a Senator. Pete Wilson resigned from the Senate to become Governor and appointed John Seymore as his replacement who lost to DiFi to complete Gov. Wilson’s term in the Senate. That why Boxer and DiFi were both elected the same year.
HumboldtBlue
@Sister Golden Bear:
Can you imagine?
Ruckus
@HumboldtBlue:
Cognitive decline at her age can hit rather fast. She may have not had any problems in 2018, at least any that would be noticeable to many, including her. Notice that she doesn’t seem to actually know according to the reports, that does say rather steep decline in my experience.
JustRuss
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It’s California. We’ll be fine.
Disclaimer: I’ve been wrong before.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@JustRuss: We have a very deep bench here in California.
gene108
@Mary G:
@MisterForkbeard:
@Ruckus:
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The Senate is a helluva a drug. Very few people give it up willingly.
Most either lose re-election bids or die in office. Grassley’s 87 days younger than her, and he’s probably running again in 2022. And he’s no longer the sharpest tool in the shed.
We all want her to say, “due to health reasons, I am retiring”, but convincing a long serving Senator to retire is really, really hard.
They’ve wheeled Senators out in wheelchairs to cast votes, because they had terminal cancer, and were on death’s door.
I’ll just reiterate it’s really hard for someone to voluntarily quit the Senate. The Senate’s a helluva drug.
Hard enough to convince older folks they are in decline and should no longer to this or that.
Convincing her to quit her dream job will be much, much harder.
different-church-lady
Ain’t we all forgetting that if we sweep Georgia, we’re gonna need her vote to be present for a bit?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@gene108: I think the only person who could convince her is her husband.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: Gov. Gav. will appoint a replacement pretty quickly, he’s already got a list to replace Sen/VP-elect Harris.
different-church-lady
Does that happen before January?
CaseyL
@Yutsano: “Forget it, Jake.It’s Spokane.”
Eastern Washington is a whole other world these days.
Brachiator
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
If this is true about DiFi, it actually complicates things for Newsom. Other California leaders are already astounded at the power opportunity that Newsom has. He may be able to appoint replacements for Senate, state attorney general and Secretary of State, if Alex Padilla gets one of the prizes. And now to be able to appoint a second senator.
That’s some serious muscle flexing.
Yutsano
@CaseyL: And people wonder why I want out…
There’s actually a promotion that might come open here soon. But I’m not taking it. Why? It would require me to move to Spokane. Nope. Not enough money could convince me to do that.
Redshift
Speaking of DC protests, on the way to an appointment this afternoon we got stuck in a traffic jam that turned out to be caused by a car parade protesting… something to do with farmers. I can’t find any local news stories about it, so apparently they didn’t communicate their grievances effectively to anyone, they just gummed up the Beltway and I-395 for a while. I’m also not aware of anything related to agriculture that’s being decided right now.
And some of them had signs saying “farmers’ lives matter,” which to me just screams “even if I have valid concerns, I want you to know I’m racist too!”
danielx
@West of the Rockies:
The scary part is that seven million more people voted for him than in 2016, and they knew exactly for whom they were voting. Matt Taibbi (who I’ve since grown to detest, but nevermind) said in an interview that Trump’s appeal in 2016 was “vote for me and you’ll horrify them all, and sixty million people said ‘I’m in'”. This time around they all knew exactly what they were getting, and they believe in it totally and continue to throw money at it. Surreality rules!
At this point I’m wondering if Trump plans a MacArthur-type “I shall return” speech from the boarding ramp of Air Force One. Or, for that matter, if Ivanka plans a rendition of “Don’t Cry For Me, Kalorama Circle”.
ETA: haven’t heard much from young jared lately. Do you suppose he’s still doing some last minute padding of the nest, or has he made tracks for Dubai or somewhere?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Brachiator: It’s the power that comes with being the Governor of California.
Brachiator
@danielx:
Heard a news story that Young Jared and Ivanka had bought some residential property in Florida.
About 60 miles from Mar a Lago, so convenient for family visits.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Brachiator: So funny, Princess Ivanka won’t be invited to the Met Gala or the Hamptons anymore.
danielx
@Brachiator:
Ah yes, I’d let that slip past. I’d imagine Dubai has crossed his mind though….
Yutsano
@danielx: Isn’t he traipsing through the Middle East or is he back yet? Too apathetic to Google.
Kent
Going through the whole cognitive decline thing with my father-in-law who refuses to let go of his finances. It’s very problematic. He’s also Chilean and the laws in Chile around this sort of thing are more difficult to navigate. My brother-in-law is trying to sort things out but my wife may have to fly down during the pandemic on a 20 hour flight to help sort things out. Not going to be a pleasant holiday season here.
Is there some lever by which a state can have a Senator declared incompetent and appoint a replacement? No 25th Amendment for Senators I guess. But it sounds like Feinstein needs to go now.
Kent
I googled it. Indian Creek is basically a private resort island attached to north Miami Beach. In a decade or so it’s going to be underwater. All the houses there are waterfront.
https://goo.gl/maps/5GbFmroKJ7Xizyyz5
pablo
Wait until 12 PM January 20! The cacophony will be deafening. Get your pots, pans, and air horns ready! A MAGAt exterminator!
NotMax
@Brachiator
Hmmm. Fred is one of the names on the 2021 Atlantic hurricane names list. Is Mother Nature enamored of irony?
Kent
Yep, we are all hostage to the judgement of a man who thought Kimberly Guilfoyle was wife material.
NotMax
Not that I expend any time specifically seeking whether he’s gurgled any blabberings about what’s going on currently re: election and especially re: Texas but also have seen no mention of him even peripherally either. It thus occurs to me that there’s one thing Rick Perry has learned — to keep his yap shut.
Kent
He was a George W Bush protégé. I expect one thing he has figured out is that the party has passed him by in terms of crazy, especially in TX. He’s old-school business-friendly GOP and doesn’t have the feral flop-sweat crazy of a Ted Cruz.
NotMax
@Kent
Also dumber than the carton the proverbial box of rocks is shipped in.
;)
There's no such thing as a good Republican
There’s definitely something screwy going on with http://www.millionmagamarch.us, and not just in the “they’re organizing a rally in favor of Trump’s sedition” way.
The property listed in the WHOIS lookup for millionmagamarch.us (2212 Boiling Springs Rd, Boiling Springs, SC 29316) has a January 26, 2018 Memorandum of Lease filed on the 29th (https://search.spartanburgdeeds.com/ to find the memorandum) for it, showing the owners as Johnny E. Duncan and Linda A. Duncan; the only Johnny E. Duncan from Boiling Springs who turns up in a google search is Johnny Ernest Duncan, wife Linda Duncan, both involved in a $300,000,000 scheme to use a veterans 501(c) as a front for an illegal internet gambling business. https://www.goupstate.com/article/NC/20130313/News/605130684/SJ
The memorandum lists a flooring company as the lessee, but the lease is not current, so we can say with moderate confidence that http://www.millionmagamarch.us is registered by a known conman with a 20+ year rapsheet (https://www.ocala.com/article/LK/20130317/News/604139951/OS), selling ridiculously overpriced branded merchandise (https://www.millionmagamarch.us/store/) to the rubes.
Seems so fitting.
Kent
@NotMax: Like I said….a Dubya protégé
NotMax
@Kent
Touché.
:)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kent: To be fair, Gav had a drinking problem then, he quit drinking.
Dan B
@CaseyL: Spokane is too close to Idaho which seems to be jonesing for a Neo Nazi revolt. It’s deeply discouraging because Boise was emerging as a great civic-minded and diverse city and a magnet for innovative small businesses. I hope Spokane doesn’t suffer the fate of being viewed as an intolerant and hostile community.
Will their civic and business leaders step forward?
Dan B
@danielx: Jared and Ivanka have purchased a $30 million property on an ultra-secure island in the Miami area. I believe there is no residence on it so that complicates the potential move.
Kent
Those must have been some beer goggles!
Dan B
@danielx: A woman who is ED of a non-profit that assists women who have been abused interviewed many abused women who support Trump. They had many rationales for supporting Trump even though they don’t personally like him. The most common ‘reasons is that stopping immigrants made them feel more secure. There were lots of other reasons like feeling protected from felons (ie. Black and brown).
Reminds me of the Ben Franklin quote about sacrificing liberty for security. There are many people whose psychological makeup is fear and the unstoppable drive for protection. We need to persuade them that we value security but our approach is to uphold and promote justice and fair treatment as a foundation for security.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@CaseyL:
I saw someone say that “Spokane is a dot of blue in a sea of red” and just about choked to death laughing. Oh fuck no, it’s a conservative shithole that my wife and I fled almost 30 years ago. Unfortunately we both have family that refuse to budge so we have to go back on occasion, which helps to remind us how smart we were to leave that shithole long ago. While we love seeing our family members, we’re happiest when we’re back in Oregon.
It’s pretty red where we live but a lot fewer of them. :)
Martin
Reminder that Kyle Rittenhouse was taken down by a guy with a skateboard. This is what they’re afraid of.
Kent
@Odie Hugh Manatee: To be fair, most of the hard core Republicans moved out to Spokane Valley, Liberty Lake, and other burbs to avoid paying municipal taxes. So what’s left of actual city of Spokane is indeed blue, but the county as a whole is red
Whitman county (Pullman) is the only blue county east of the Cascades.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@West of the Rockies: Regarding Trump, I’m often at a loss for words, but I’ve developed an understanding of the philosophy behind the saying “hanging’s too good for him” that I lacked before that vicious evil sociopathic schoolyard bully gained power.
mrmoshpotato
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:
Yup. But throwing them alive into an active volcano would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
Anonymous
@Kent:
regarding the Senator’s decline, wife has used computers professionally for 45 years now. Since the quarantine began she has forgotten how to navigate Balloon Juice, and so much more.
It is very hard! I try hard to make things normal, as I love her, but I’m in uncharted waters with no map. So I have a lot of sympathy for Feinstein’s family and friends…
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@different-church-lady:
That would be Robert’s’ Roger Taney moment.
Suburban Mom
@Anonymous: Yup. I have a family member the same age as DiFi and her story, and yours, sound very familiar. Some days she has it together and is angry because she feels that we’re not letting her make decisions. Other days she gives private information to phone scammers. It is extraordinarily challenging and painful. At least she still hates Trump.
eclare
@Anonymous: Oh gosh that sounds rough.
Mike J
I’m no DiFi fan, but there are a lot of people who claim to be on our side who were salivating for exactly this story, and this is the same schtick they tried on Biden.
Dan B
@Anonymous: It’s very tough. You are learning to love a new person every month or every week.
Are friends and family aware and understanding? Keep in mind the importance of taking care of yourself. There is assistance. I learned the lesson from a good friend. His mother was struggling to care for his father who had early – rapid – onset. She died a couple months after my friend’s father passed from stress induced COPD. Many caregivers suffer the same fate, even dying first. I hope you find assistance with the everyday tasks and for your heart. Mine broke daily when my mother declined from dementia. It took time to find peace and courage.
Know that you are loved.
satby
@Anonymous: @Suburban Mom: We went through this before my mother passed away at about the same age. My mother had vascular dementia as a result of (mostly) smoking and would be apparently fine on days she took her medications and gaga on the days she forgot them, which became worse as time went on. And it is hard, because they have no idea how badly they’re forgetting things. Especially when there are days when they have it together. So families have a very hard time convincing them they aren’t well. Our culture doesn’t help either, because our elderly people aren’t valued by our society either for their knowledge or the history they’ve lived and no one wants to be relegated to a role of no value.
Luciamia
5 am. Can’t sleep, now I’m dreaming about this fucking election. Came here but I guess there’s no solace anywhere right now.
prostratedragon
TCM note for this Saturday, 7pm Central:
Not sure that any description can convey the charm of this movie, at least for me.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@mrmoshpotato:
With good reason. No volcano should be subjected to such despicable treatment.
satby
@prostratedragon: I loved that movie! Wish I still got TCM. The only bad thing about cord cutting.
rikyrah
@danielx:
I don’t care about those who showed their lack of character by voting for him.
15 million more voted for Biden than for Hillary.
Now, add in those who were voter suppressed, beginning with the over half million in Florida who were POLL TAXED from voting.?
rikyrah
@Luciamia:
Been up since 3:30.?
Baud
@rikyrah:
Exactly. And our numbers would be even better if we didn’t take covid seriously with out GOTV efforts.
Barry
@Dan B: (re: Sponkane)
“Will their civic and business leaders step forward?”
No. Their business leaders will ignore things as long as they make money, and then wake up and realize that they aren’t running things.
Without even knowing them[1], their civic leaders fall into two categories: impotent and part of the problem.
[1] 95% of Republicans fall into these two categories.
trnc
My sincerest hope is that the lifetime members of the court who don’t have to worry about giving fresh pacifiers to DT’s cult realize that if they hand them the dictatorship, it’s a lot more painful and possibly fatal for them in the long run. They’ll eventually wind up ruling against him on something, and someone given the office again like that will certainly not be constrained on how to treat the judiciary.
debbie
@danielx:
Apples and oranges. Voter turnout was far higher over all, not just with Trump supporters. Ohio’s turnout was more than 70%, which is pretty fucking high.
RSA
Well put.
And informal (i.e. unpaid) caregivers do need much more support for what they do.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@mrmoshpotato: Really you can’t argue about the “unusual” part.
Starfish
@Mike J: This has been a consistent story about her for a while. As others have pointed out, it is not a unique story. Thad Cochran was supposedly not quite with it when he retired. I would expect the people around her to be protecting her more. Were the Newsome people helping push this so that he can have more power?
lowtechcyclist
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
And she’s going to decline further during that time.
As Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution says, “Each House shall be the judge of the…Qualifications of its own Members…”
If the Dems had a Senate majority, they could vote to remove her from the Senate. Maybe they will come January 20 (not January 5 because Pence will still be VP) but they’d need a GOP vote to overcome DiFi’s vote against. I’m sure Mitch would rather have her stay than be replaced by, say, Katie Porter.
Snarki, child of Loki
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:”No volcano should be subjected to such despicable treatment.”
Don’t piss off Pele.
Bad idea.
Now a MUD VOLCANO, that’s a different story.
Geminid
@debbie: In the Texas 2020 election, trump got 5,890,000 votes, a net gain of 1,220,000 over 2016. Biden got 5,259,000, a net gain of 1,385,000 over Clinton’s 2016 total. In Georgia this year, trump got 2,461,000, a net gain of 380,000 over 2016. Biden got 2,473,000, a net gain of 600,000 over Clinton’s 2016 total.
kindness
Since this has become a DiFi thread, I’ve almost always voted against her in the primaries and voted for her in the general. She’s always been a conservative to moderate Democrat. She represents monied interests more than my own. But in the General election she’s still better than the shitheads Republicans puke up here in California.
Mary Ellen Sandahl
@prostratedragon:Yes! One of our family favorites — not only does it have charm, but it’s visually beautiful and has a sense of courage and expansiveness. It must have been deeply appealing for many British and American audiences when it came out in WWII.
mad citizen
The movie is on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3Xv70vkY8
Bill Arnold
@Dan B:
Worried about snipers. :-) Twits.
Wait until Young Faux-MotU Jared hears about Slaughterbots (Youtube, Nov 13, 2017, scary)
leeleeFL
@mrmoshpotato: Not by everyone, trust me! Some of us would be happy to participate in that kind of ritual. Might, just maybe might, exorcize the demons?!
A formerly Catholic Girl can dream, Inquisition and stuff!
Shana
@mrmoshpotato: I’ve been trying to figure out what they have marked as the No Go Zone but haven’t been able to find it. Fking snowflakes.
I had a dormmate in college from a small downstate farm. A bunch of us went to visit another dormmate over the Christmas break at her home in Schaumburg, a northwest suburb of Chicago, at that time home to the biggest mall in America. A place about as safely suburban as you could get yet there was nothing we could do to convince the farm girl that she was in no danger of being raped or murdered at any moment. We went sledding one evening in a public park and she spent the whole time being terrified. I sometimes wonder whatever happened to her. The family did supply us with some terrific homemade sausage though.
Subsole
@different-church-lady:
In fairness, they have had that icecream bar since they were a child…
louc
@Shana: It’s in the DCist story. As someone who works at 18th and K NW, (1 of the borders) I find it hilarious that they chose basically a bunch of office buildings and high end hotels around the white house as their no-go zone. The biggest danger is getting pan-handled or, in the past, shoved out of the way by a jerk-off K St lobbyist.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Kent:
Late reply but I can only agree that parts of Spokane (city proper) are blue, not the whole city and the blue that’s there isn’t enough to make up for the incompetent city management nor the Keystone cops who have ruled the roost. I grew up and spent more than half of my life there so I know what a shithole it is.
It’s why my wife and I live where we do (Oregon). Spokane is in a beautiful area but it’s got too much human ugly piled up around it.
Lyrebird
@HumboldtBlue: I’m sorry, I’ll be the one with no sense of humor here. I know that’s a satire story and that the toy is horrible, but adding in Elton John as the victim’s name?
I want more decades to pass since Matthew Shepard was killed. I’d like him back, actually, first.