Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Everybody saw this coming.

I did not have telepathic declassification on my 2022 bingo card.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Infrastructure week. at last.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

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  2. 2.

    trollhattan

    A new president, a new vaccine and the sun is out after a long storm [narrator: it rained two whole days]. More Mondays should be like this.

  4. 4.

    Punchy

    Biden with his PhD from College of Electoral.  Harris still writing her thesis, to be finished by 2023.

    How long before Trump sues the EC for allowing one elector from Rhode Island to take a bathroom break during their count, thereby invalidating the whole thing?

  5. 5.

    J R in WV

    PLUS;

    FAT BILL BARR IS FIRED — OUTA THERE IN 10 DAYS!

    eta: Not as great as Biden being official President-elect, but still pretty great, on top of the election being over FINALLY !!!

  6. 6.

    Patricia Kayden

    Huge sigh.

    We have surpassed 300,000 Covid deaths in the United States.Shame on everyone who helped cause it – whether it's people at the top of government who treated it like a hoax/flu, or ordinary Americans on the ground who (still) refuse to wear masks.A totally preventable tragedy.— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) December 14, 2020

  7. 7.

    Splitting Image

    “Don’t you think it’s suspicious that the vote tally was neck and neck all day long until a large number of votes for Biden – from California, a known blue state, mind you – all got added to the count at the exact same time?”

    – Rudy Giuliani, by sometime tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

  10. 10.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    They say we’re young and we don’t know
    We won’t find out until we grow

    Well I don’t know if all that’s true
    ‘Cause you got me, and baby I got you

    Babe

    I got you babe

    I got you babe

  12. 12.

    kindness

    The Stephen Millers of the Trump Crime Syndicate act so smug/condescending when they say ‘Oh no!  Trump will be sworn it 1/20/21.’  It is hard to stomach and hard to comprehend.  They really believe there are enough assholes in elected office to toss the election results and hand another term to Trump.  Hard to understand.  Even more difficult to believe.  I bet they think they would live through the upheaval that would come with Trump being installed dictator.  Smug & condescending is no bearing on intelligence obviously.

  14. 14.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Punchy:

    How long before Trump sues the EC for allowing one elector from Rhode Island to take a bathroom break during their count, thereby invalidating the whole thing?

    Can the Electoral College even be sued? Like I know you’re joking, but could it? Who would even have standing? I’m guessing the state SOS would be the ones who are actually sued?

  16. 16.

    Rose Weiss

    Early Happy Hour glass of wine here to celebrate, although the real celebration will be Jan. 20.

  19. 19.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @kindness:

     They really believe there are enough assholes in elected office to toss the election results and hand another term to Trump.  Hard to understand.  Even more difficult to believe.  I bet they think they would live through the upheaval that would come with Trump being installed dictator.  Smug & condescending is no bearing on intelligence obviously.

    Seriously

    Also, I for one, am not tired of all this winning : )

  22. 22.

    JoyceH

    I hate being such an old cynic, but I can’t help but wonder what Trump wants done that Barr wouldn’t do but the new Acting AG will.

  24. 24.

    Cheryl Rofer

    Some Republicans are starting to come around.

  27. 27.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Splitting Image: 

    Also Rudy:

    “If California isn’t counted, then Trump’s the winner! Mr. Trump, send those tanks in to arrest the California Democrap Party and install the GOP!”

    Hey, he’s probably just crazy enough to say something like that

  28. 28.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Cheryl Rofer: After Trump calls them up and screams at them over the phone for an hour, I’d guess at least one reverses course and endorses the Bizarro World electors.

  31. 31.

    mali muso

    Raising my glass of vino in a toast to the President and Vice-President elect.  NOT tired of all the winning!

  32. 32.

    MomSense

    @Patricia Kayden:

    I am a wreck. I’m beside myself with worry and anger.  The wife of my son’s boss tested positive. He and all  the financial advisors who work for him are anti maskers and trumpers.  My son was exposed to him on Friday and had to go get tested today.  My son has asthma so I’m terrified.
    I’m having a really hard time focusing on anything.

    My son is very sweet and trying to reassure me.  He told me that he brought his dog with him to the drive thru testing and it cheered everyone up.  He said all the health care workers came over to pet the dog.

    His boss better pray my son is negative because I am feeling very fucking drive to CT and break everything.

  34. 34.

    Just Chuck

    I really like that map.  Someone should show it to the “credulous boomer rube” t-shirt guy.

  36. 36.

    germy

    Barr wrote a very nice resignation letter:

    Just had a very nice meeting with Attorney General Bill Barr at the White House. Our relationship has been a very good one, he has done an outstanding job! As per letter, Bill will be leaving just before Christmas to spend the holidays with his family…— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 14, 2020

    …Deputy Attorney General Jeff Rosen, an outstanding person, will become Acting Attorney General. Highly respected Richard Donoghue will be taking over the duties of Deputy Attorney General. Thank you to all! pic.twitter.com/V5sqOJT9PM— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 14, 2020

  38. 38.

    germy

    Breaking: Michigan Republican Rep. Paul Mitchell told CNN that his disgust and disappointment with Trump's efforts to overturn the election results have led him to request that the clerk of the House change his party affiliation to "independent." https://t.co/HQZW2g0Htp— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 14, 2020

  41. 41.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Cheryl Rofer: add one more rat to the lifeboat

    Manu Raju @mkraju · 16m
    “It’s a very, very narrow path for the President,” Lindsey Graham said. He told me he spoke with Biden “a while ago” for about 10 minutes and had a “very pleasant’ conversation with him, saying he would work him where he could.

  42. 42.

    p.a.

    In an unusual choice I went with Barr Hill Tom Cat Gin to celebrate.

    I hope every magat follower of the rethug Senators now gladhanding Joe’s victory pays them late-night visits to their gated communities.

  43. 43.

    Just Chuck

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Naw, that’d be Flynn’s MO.  Rudy would suggest we blanket the state with chemtrails or something.  Or that chemtrails were responsible for Biden’s victory in the first place.  Probably in the same breath.

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    Trump dislikes the Electoral College because his dad couldn’t pay someone to let him in

    Cry harder, Trump trash!

  47. 47.

    Nicole

    First people vaccinated against Covid in NYS and EC certifies vote.  Today was a fine Monday.

    In the words of those great philosophers, The Who, “Got a feeling ’21 is gonna be a good year.” ;)

  51. 51.

    Benw

    Woot!

    So after winning the presidency this many times does Biden get to serve like six consecutive terms or what?

  52. 52.

    Ajabu

    @Chief Oshkosh:
    We’re doing what we can. Mrs. Ajabu and I dropped our Georgia ballots today at our local library. Long, long lines of Black voters in our neighborhood. Don’t think there were too many Republican votes in that crowd! ??????

  56. 56.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Can the Electoral College even be sued?

    I’d like to see one of these fascist fuckwits try!

    Judge: You dumb, dumb, dumb morons!  The Electoral College isn’t a physical entity or a single person!

  57. 57.

    germy

    Bill Barr won’t be missed. He never acted as the Attorney General for the American people but rather as the personal henchman for Donald Trump. He is a corrupt liar who attacked our democracy and did an injustice to justice in this country.

    I’m not done holding him accountable. pic.twitter.com/FjuNb5EEQP

    — Rep. Pramila Jayapal (@RepJayapal) December 14, 2020

  61. 61.

    Baud

    Already on the job.

    Folks, tomorrow is the last day of open enrollment for 2021 coverage. Head to https://t.co/3CYKhP8ZoR today to find the health insurance plan that works best for you.
    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 14, 2020

     

    Georgia — in-person early voting starts today. Head to https://t.co/RIJ1L4juwB to find all the information you need to make your voice heard.

    Wear a mask, practice social distancing, and help flip the Senate.
    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 14, 2020

  62. 62.

    BruceFromOhio

    Ah, the irony of the soulless criminals that demand so much winning and constant reassurance instead receiving so much losing and constant derision. This could get addictive.

  63. 63.

    sab

    @MomSense: Wow.
    I wish there was a way to say my thoughts and prayers are with you without sounding insincere and Republican, because my thoughts and prayers are with you. In my house we are in a similar situation.

  65. 65.

    Kattails

    @MomSense: Your outrage is completely understandable. All best thoughts for your son’s safety.

    And this is why we fight McConnell and his GOP enablers over desperately needed relief bills that give corporations a pass on endangering their employees.

  69. 69.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Leto: too little, too late you fascist/autocratic enabling sacks of shit. Never forgive, never forget.

    Also, fascist sacks of shit themselves.  Fuck ’em.

  73. 73.

    Calouste

    @germy: Mitchell is retiring, so his registration as independent will be effective for about three weeks, during which there might not even be a vote. Prime example of GOP courage.

    Oh, and of course he did it after any last ditch efforts to overturn the election has run their course, not before.

  74. 74.

    TomatoQueen

    @Baud: I’ve seen one mention of a scheduled speech by our new President this evening. I shall be pounding on this cowbell until then.

  75. 75.

    opiejeanne

    I watched the Washington State Electoral vote today, for our grand total of 12 votes. Our Secretary of State is a Republican, Kim Wyman, and she became very emotional (in a good way) when she made her introductory remarks today in Olympia., I mean she was actually moved to tears.

    When she noted that today marks the end of the 2020 election, she breathed, “Thank God!” into the mic. It got a laugh.

    She also noted that it was striking (or heart-warming, or something similar) how all of the women electors were taking photos of their VP ballot with their phones.

    It was a good day.

  78. 78.

    NeenerNeener

    @MomSense:  I’m in the same state of panic.

    Yesterday I found out that one of my co-workers has the ‘rona.
    I saw her 10 days ago in a parking lot when I gave her a Baby Yoda toy I was donating to our Christmas charity. We were both masked, and I was wearing a latex glove on the hand I used to give her the bag but I’ve seen all those reports about how you can be 20 feet away from a masked carrier and still catch it. No good deed goes unpunished, I guess.

    I’m not symptomatic yet, though; my temp is normal, I can taste Nutella just fine and I’m hungry.

  82. 82.

    BruceFromOhio

    @MomSense: That time waiting for test results is excruciating. We get tempted to fill those dark places with all manner of nasties while the clock ticks away. Plan for the worst, but please keep hoping for the best, and don’t let that chaos overwhelm you.

  83. 83.

    randy khan

    @Cheryl Rofer: It’s about freaking time that they acknowledged it.

    But I will take it in good humor because every Senator who acknowledges the result is at least 1/2 of a Senator who won’t be stupid enough to vote to support an objection to the count on January 6.

  85. 85.

    Kattails

    @p.a.: Wow. I am familiar with Barr Hill Tom Cat gin, that is quite an interesting choice of beverage! This reminded me of the fact that for many years there were few states that allowed distilling; when that changed, suddenly many small local distillers popped up everywhere– or at least in NH and VT–some better than others, but Barr Hill is a very good one.  Saxtons Distillery also make a very nice, completely different Snowdrop Gin :-)

  86. 86.

    Alison Rose

    @lamh36: I LEGIT TEARED UP. And I’m gonna bawl like a baby when she’s sworn in. (We will get to watch that, right?? I can’t recall for the life of me if they usually televise the VP oath, since you can fucking bet I didn’t watch in 2016…)

  87. 87.

    germy

    A thread that lists Barr’s achievements:

    With bill barr leaving we can never forget barr’s constitutional crime spree and rampage against the rule of law.

    This thread provides some lowlights.

    — Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) December 14, 2020

    In conclusion:

    So while bill barr may be leaving as the nation’s top law enforcement official, his fanatical assaults on the rule of law are chilling.

    Barr should be stripped of his law licenses for life so he can never practice law again. pic.twitter.com/jMGrIDPkAS

    — Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) December 14, 2020

  88. 88.

    BruceFromOhio

    @NeenerNeener: Did you embrace? Spend a couple hours talking to each other out there? If no to both, your exposure is pretty low, as is your risk. Get tested if you can, but I wouldn’t spend a whole lot of time worrying about it.

  90. 90.

    Mike in NC

    Stephen Miller’s magnum opus was going to be an Executive Order forcing all non-white, non-Christian people to leave the country in 90 days.

  92. 92.

    Suzanne

    Mr. Suzanne just made pasta sauce and it was a bit less flavorful than normal, and I started worrying that I was losing my sense of taste.

    God, this nightmare is just so exhausting.

    Who knew Hell would be boring? I mean, it just never occurred to me,

  99. 99.

    zhena gogolia

    Good:

    Smartmatic—one of two voting machine manufacturers attacked by Trump and his allies (without evidence) for rigging the election—is demanding retractions and delivering legal notices to Fox, Newsmax, and OANN for promoting those baseless lies. https://t.co/dG5I0fQCko— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 14, 2020

  101. 101.

    dmsilev

    Word salad of the day:

    And Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) gave a convoluted response to reporters in which he seemed to take great pains not to reference Biden’s victory in any way: “Well, it seems to me that being elected by the electoral college is a threshold where a title like that is probably most appropriate and it’s, I suppose you can say official, if there is such a thing as official president-elect, or anything else-elect. And there’s an inauguration that will swear somebody in and that person will be the president of the United States, but whether you call it that or not, you know, there are legal challenges that are ongoing — not very many — probably not a remedy that would change the outcome but, so, I don’t — again I don’t know how a politician refers to another politician but it does look to me like the big race is really between the inaugural committee and the Justice Department at this point.”

    That last bit, is he trying to insinuate that Biden is about to be indicted or something? Other than that, it’s definitely some Authentic Frontier Gibberish.

  102. 102.

    NeenerNeener

    @BruceFromOhio: No, she thought she just had a cold and I didn’t want to catch that either so I only got close enough to her to hand her the bag from the end of my outstretched arm. Then I backed up another foot or so. We talked for about 5 minutes, max, because she had to go run errands with her mom.

    I can cancel the upcoming mammogram for the third time this year, but the car is going to have to go in for the oil change or Kia may decide the rest of my 50,000 mile warranty is void at only 18400 miles.

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    @MomSense:   Ugh.  People like that need to be shot out of a rocket to another planet were the only people they can hurt are people who deserve it.

    Waiting sucks.  My best friend had to wait 24 days after her husband was diagnosed with COVID before she could get the final negative test and be sure she hadn’t gotten in.

    That she could be in the same house with him for all that time and not get it makes me hopeful for a great outcome for your son.

  106. 106.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Suzanne: We’ve been keeping a ready supply of oranges, lemons, and limes for all the cooking and baking (MrsFromOhio) and cocktails (yours truly).

    Every morning I scratch one a little to test the olfactory response. So far, so good.

    … and right there with you on programming in Hell. There have been days where we get goofy and shout nonsense at each other just for something different.

    MFO: You hung the dishtowel backwards AGAIN!

    BFO: YES, I did. And it felt GOOD! I suggest you TRY IT!

  107. 107.

    Suzanne

    @Baud: No, he made it milder than normal because Spawn the Younger is still a kid and doesn’t enjoy crazyflava the way her parents do.

  109. 109.

    Leto

    Business Insider: Head of White House security office has his right foot amputated because of severe COVID-19 and is facing ‘staggering medical bills,’ new report says

    Jennifer [email protected]
    4h
    NEWS: Crede Bailey was most severely ill among dozens of cases known to be connected to WH. “Crede beat COVID-19 but it came at a significant cost: his big toe on his left foot as well as his right foot and lower leg had to be amputated,” friend says.

    There’s quite a bit at the article, but I’m just going to put this here:

    Bailey’s office handles credentialing for access to the White House complex and works closely with the U.S. Secret Service on security measures. Bailey was known on the compound as a strong Trump supporter.

  111. 111.

    Jeffro

    @Rose Weiss:Early Happy Hour glass of wine here to celebrate, although the real celebration will be Jan. 20.

    I think I better go to bed with a Gatorade IV in me that evening…(ahem)…

  114. 114.

    steppy

    @germy: I feel like there is a non-zero chance that people like Rep. Mitchell, the Lincoln Project, Sen. Romney, etc., might actually splinter off and form a Conservative Party to leave the cult of personality behind. Am I much too “optimistic” in hoping that there remains a remnant of conservatives that are not hopelessly vile?

  115. 115.

    BruceFromOhio

    @NeenerNeener: Oh my! You have to do what you think is safe, however, MrsFromOhio just went in for hers, and it was like visiting outer space, there were so many safeguards. It may be different where you live, close to me are multiple establishments where you can get a 10-minute oil change without getting out of your car. Or see if the dealer will come get the vehicle – may cost a bit, but may also be cheaper than strafing the warranty.

    As for the hand-off, I think you are fine – exposure that brief yields very low risk. That’s why masking works!

  117. 117.

    SFBayAreaGal

    @DivF: I do too. I love the rain and the coldness that comes along with the rain.

    Today it is beautiful. Cool in the shade, warm in the sun.

  118. 118.

    Geminid

     

     

    @Kattails: Outgoing 5th VA congressman Denver Riggleman owns a vodka distillery in Nelson County. It’s on Rt 151 at the foot of the Blue Ridge. Locals call Rt.151 “Alcohol Alley” on a account of all the breweries and distilleries along it.   Ironically, Riggleman won his seat in 2018 when Congressman Tom Garrett retired to deal with his alcohol problem.

  121. 121.

    debbie

    @debbie:

    Apparently the Weasel has issued some mealymouthed words that both acknowledge President-Elect Biden and support Trump’s continuing efforts to ferret out fraud.

    Bastard.

  122. 122.

    J R in WV

    @lamh36:

    Really glad to see you, and you should be proud, Kamala is a hell of a great woman. Was my pick before she dropped out.

    I hope you’re feeling better now, after your story the other day!!

    Have kicked in to the GA runoff elections already again.

  124. 124.

    Leto

    @BruceFromOhio: I hope it’s like Raid. Sad thing is I’m sure nothing will change, specifically in the WH or in the behaviors of the people around him. Maybe his immediate family, but I doubt any of his work colleagues will change. This isn’t going to cause a mass uprising within the workforce calling for Trumpov’s head on a pike because he’s a lying sack of cheeto shit. Part of me wants to feel sorry for him because I 10000% understand everything he’s going through, and the challenges that he’s going to face. The other part of me, the post-Trumpov part of me, is efgoldman’ing this: fuck’em.

  125. 125.

    dmsilev

    @Alison Rose: Yep, definitely a time to celebrate. I got to watch Obama’s inaugural in a big auditorium where a good sized chunk of the crowd knew him personally  (I was working at the University of Chicago at the time), and that was also pretty special.

  128. 128.

    dmsilev

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: You may want to brace yourself, but legend speaks of something called ‘snow’, where not only does water fall from the sky, that water is actually frozen.

    Obviously a myth.

  130. 130.

    Geoduck

    A likely theory going around is that the Shiatgibbon canned Barr today not because of some plan to install a more willing lackey, but because he just wanted to step on Biden’s headlines.

    Congrats to Biden and Harris!

  131. 131.

    Mary G

    @MomSense:  His boss’s blood is probably full of Covid right now. When we can travel again I’ll fly out there and help you beat the shit out of him.

  135. 135.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Leto: Right there with you. I do not wish this sort of horror on anyone, and the guy is now disabled for life. But anyone who insists on running out into traffic on a busy road shouldn’t be surprised to wake up in the ER missing some bits, if they’re lucky enough to wake up at all. What makes me hopping mad is all the people who had to work with this idiot who had no choice and possibly got infected as well. Where are their stories?

  139. 139.

    leeleeFL

    @JoyceH: Truth!  Apparently there ARE some things lawyers won’t do!  Whocoodanode?

    I am happy with so much winning..am gonna be disgusted by too much whining…..

     so it goes….

     

    Vonnegut would have loved today

  141. 141.

    lamh36

    @J R in WV:

    Thx.

    I’m feeling alright.  Still not sure what’s going on, but the pain seems lesser, but I can’t tell if it’s because I’m taking pain meds or cause it’s getting better.

    IDK.  But I have a couple of cardiac stress test this week, and hopefully that will give a clearer picture of what’s really going on

  144. 144.

    CaseyL

    @opiejeanne: Love it!

    I’ve never felt moved to fly the flag; that may change.  I want to celebrate my country; just waiting to see if I’m celebrating a narrow escape or a chance to really move forward.

  146. 146.

    MomSense

    Ann Reinking died.  Fuck fucking 2020.  I worshipped her.  I was in some classes with her (Luigi technique) and it was so hard to focus because I was fan girling so hard.  We have lost one of the greats.

  147. 147.

    J R in WV

    @lamh36:

    But I have a couple of cardiac stress test this week, and hopefully that will give a clearer picture of what’s really going on

    Well, I’m — we’re — sorry you’re in a new location, not as close to the most of your family. But stay calm, do what the cardio docs tell you to do, be safe. And keep in touch… all the Jackals are thinking of you, and hoping you are OK.

    Best of luck! How about that Kamala woman, VP elect!!! Whoo !!

  148. 148.

    MomSense

    @lamh36:

    I missed what happened, but I’m keeping you very close in my thoughts and hoping for good news.  Please take care of yourself.

  149. 149.

    Geminid

    @Jeffro:  Rt. 151 runs from Rt. 250 at the base of Afton Mountain on past Wintergreen Resort. Makes a nice loop if you go up to the Blue Ridge Parkway and run south to Reed’s Gap.         The Blue Ridge Parkway has nice overlooks for nighttime sky watching. Raven’s Roost overlook is one. It’s easier driving than Skyline Drive north from Rockfish Gap

  151. 151.

    sab

    @NeenerNeener: Wonderful Ohio has decided (or not bothered to decide not) to continue requiring
    e-checks on cars during a pandemic.

    I have been getting my oil changed at Valvoline instead of the dealer because I can sit in my car instead of sitting in front of a tv in the dealer waiting room for a couple of hours with a bunch of other people.

    So my check engine light has been on for months because Valvoline people don’t reset it. So can’t pass e-check until the dealer checks it. And my county is purple (worst possible) on Covid. Urk.

  154. 154.

    Dan B

    @steppy: Wouldn’t it be great to have a conservative party that believes in limited government, individual responsibility, balanced budgets, a military with unlimited funding, bigger police presence, supporting fossil fuel corporatiin, and being ‘polite’ to minorities!

    /s

    I hope they mess with Trumpists and fail to form a viable “conservative party” for generations.  Take out Trumpism and go away.  Thanks.

  155. 155.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @sab: The internet is your friend, just do a Google search on how to turn off the light for your make, model and year.  There’s probably a YouTube video on how to do it.

    On my 1986 Jetta, they hid the switch, but a quick search yielded the location of the switch(it was behind the coolant reservoir).

  159. 159.

    Aleta

    @MomSense:  Oh no.  She’s amazing.  She wasn’t that old was she?

    I’ve been thinking of you since the newer mask mandate, hoping, if I understand it, it will make your workplace safer.  I’m sorry to hear your son’s situation.  Every day I come closer to turning vigilante desesperada.  Morally those people are liable.  (Seems to me one reason behind the intense politicization is Republican opposition to workplace liability for worker injury.)  They shouldn’t get away with such criminality.

  164. 164.

    jl

    OK, good. Now Congress has to count them yet again in January, right?

    Watch Pence carefully when he opens the envelopes.

    Even if we can’t get rid of the electoral college, we need to get rid of this ridiculous clunky process.

    Some self-described textualists and originalists have been scribbling that maybe Pence, whether a Congressional challenge to an EC delegation succeeds for not, can just count a few  different slates. Because…. I dunno. The Constitution doesn’t prescribe every nanosecond of the Congressional count in January?

  166. 166.

    Ruckus

    @lamh36:

    Didn’t see about you the other day, best of luck with all the cardio stuff. If you’ve never done it, I’ve found it all to be pretty easy. I’ve been through all of it, some more than once. The scary part is not knowing.

  167. 167.

    Ruckus

    @Aleta:

    She and I were born the same year, just a few months apart. So yes she was oldish. But not THAT old. She did get all the talent, good looks and probably personality though.

  170. 170.

    StringOnAStick

    Today’s dilemma: the moving van showed up with our definitely needed stuff, and none of them wore masks. I stayed in the open garage ticking off the numbered boxes and the front door and garage door were open the whole time with my husband and I outside. What are you going to do, tell them to not deliver your stuff? Crap, I hope none of them were positive.

  175. 175.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio

    @MomSense: I’m so sorry. Here’s hoping for the best. And I know that dog was a delight—you have to feel for the folks doing testing; it’s got to be a stressful job, working with worried, upset people all day long, to say nothing of the risk they’re exposed to.

  178. 178.

    Lyrebird

    @Ajabu: 

    Yay yay yay for Mr. & Mrs. Ajabu, and for everyone else there standing up for their right to vote!

    Sorry if my wording is totally leaden. Tough week at work. Don’t remind me it’s only Monday.

    Anyhow, I am getting fundraising appeals from Terry Mac and others, but if I can send funds, it’s gotta be to Georgia.

  179. 179.

    Lyrebird

    @MomSense: YES.

    Even if his boss doesn’t have the sense to pray

    and clearly his boss lacks sense

    some of the rest of us are

     

    All best to that awesome kid of yours,

    and to you needing to be able to function while you wait.

  180. 180.

    Ruckus

    @dmsilev: 
    It isn’t a myth. I’ve seen it. I’ve shoveled it. I’ve scrapped it off my car windows. I’ve used a snow blower. I’ve passed out in the snow. And I was born in Los Angeles. Not just the county but the city. And all of those things has taught me one very valuable lesson. DON’T MOVE WHERE IT SNOWS. Hey at least I learned from the experience. Took a damn decade, OK it took a decade to move, I was pretty sure about the concept the third day after I’d arrived in snow country.

  182. 182.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio

    @lamh36: Hoping very hard for the best. You’re behind on cool trips with your family! I want you to get caught up and enjoy many more.

  184. 184.

    trollhattan

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Right? Such a deal: we’re in mid-December and had our first soaker of the season over the weekend, something in years past that would have hit in October. Red flag warnings in December have never been a thing and yet, we had them last week.

    Fingers crossed you get same in the Southland.

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