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You are here: Home / Politics / America / Live Feed of the Nashville, Tennessee Law Enforcement Update Press Conference

Live Feed of the Nashville, Tennessee Law Enforcement Update Press Conference

by Adam L Silverman|  December 27, 20205:08 pm| 149 Comments

This post is in: America, Crazification Factor, Open Threads, Silverman on Security

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Here’s the live feed of the Nashville, Tennessee law enforcement press conference updating the information regarding the Christmas morning bombing:

They’ve identified the perpetrator as Anthony Warner based on a combination of evidence including DNA evidence found at the scene.

There is still no information that has been presented by law enforcement at this time – as in seven minutes into the press conference – for a motive.

Open thread.

PS: For those concerned about initial reporting that a similar incident was underway in Lebanon, TN, that has been cleared by police. No explosives were found in the box truck there.

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149Comments

  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 5:11 pm

    And, of course, MSNBC is now interviewing Clint Van Zandt…

  2. 2.

    Barbara

    December 27, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Ugh.

  3. 3.

    raven

    December 27, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    CNN’s experts are pretty funny. The announcer is fucking amazed how quickly they ID’d him! “Well, since he wasn’t trying to hide his identity. . . “

  4. 4.

    japa21

    December 27, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    Not sure the following is making me laugh or cry, but this is going around the RW.

     

     

    Gonna be hard to fact check this story.
    Interesting
    AT&T got a contract to do forensic audit on Dominion voting machines and those machines were being moved to Nashville this past week.
    The former owner of the AT&T building in Nashville, William Kennard, is a board member for Cerberus Capital Management and AT&T…. He also was Bill Clinton’s FCC chair, and Obama’s Ambassador to the EU.
    Dominion voting is owned by Cerberus Capital Management…. Cerberus is run by Staple Street Execs. Joe Bidens Brother in Law, Steven Owens, is the cofounder of Staple Street Execs along with William Kennard (mentioned above).
    Super Computer in TN was connected to the AT&T internet in NASHVILLE…. yesterday evening the Cumberland river cooling system was compromised due to internet outage and Supercomputer fried…..
    If you don’t know, “Kraken” is a reference to a supercomputer former prosecuter, Sidney Powell, has been talking about.
    So, the explosion “just happened” to be at the AT&T location where they “just so happen” to control the cooling system for the super computer and house the dominion voting machines and drives for forensic audit…
    Does it make sense now why no lives were lost? Does it make sense now why the FBI task lead couldn’t even put together a coherent sentence in the press conference yesterday? Does it make sense why the mayor was making light of the situation, almost laughing yesterday? ??
    Going down the rabbit hole

  5. 5.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    @japa21: It isn’t hard to fact check that story, it is all bullshit.

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    I’m going to go start dinner. You all try not to self immolate, self detonate, or self anything else while I’m gone. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves from an appropriately socially distanced distance.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    @japa21: Read as far as the first “Dominion.”

    Oh crackpots…

  8. 8.

    jackmac

    December 27, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    So many unanswered questions, but at least it appears that the Nashville bomber went to great pains to ensure that no one else was killed. Contrast that with the other holiday tragedy several hundred miles north as a Florida man walked into a Rockford, Ill. bowling alley on Saturday night deliberately looking for people to kill. Three died, three were injured in what was described as a random shooting. Suspect, identified as an active military, is in custody while friends and families of victims are in mourning.

  9. 9.

    japa21

    December 27, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Fully aware.

  10. 10.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 27, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    @japa21:

    There’s a quote by Freud, probably apocryphal: “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

    These people see connections that aren’t actually meaningful. Coincidences exist.

    I’m surprised I haven’t heard about insane conspiracy theories on Parler about how the vaccines are actually “mind control serum” developed by the CIA who are actually controlled by the Reptillian NWO to consolidate control over the world.

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 27, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    @japa21:

    THAT’S JUST SCIENCE!

  12. 12.

    Cermet

    December 27, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    @japa21: Oh please! The absoult dead give away that the story is Bullshit is the super computer named … wait for it … Kracken! LOLOLOLOL. Then the rest is a total stew of all key words…please. You posted that laughable word salad of conspirary nonsense?

  13. 13.

    Baud

    December 27, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): 

    A cigar usually signifies a penis.

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @Cermet: Mmmmm Supercomputer rum.

  15. 15.

    Mike in NC

    December 27, 2020 at 5:30 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Tomorrow the wingnuts will be calling for a boycott of Dominos Pizza. Maybe one of them will claim Hunter Biden is on the Board of Directors.

  16. 16.

    cain

    December 27, 2020 at 5:31 pm

    @japa21: 
    I’m surprised there wasn’t anything related to the email server and Clinton to top it off.

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    @Baud:

    A cigar usually signifies a penis. 

    Ahhh…new site.  But what does a penis signify then?

  18. 18.

    Yutsano

    December 27, 2020 at 5:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m going to go start dinner. You all try not to self immolate, self detonate, or self anything else while I’m gone.

    I GUARANTEE NOTHING!!!

  19. 19.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    @Mike in NC: No problem here.

    The pizza test is if you can eat leftovers cold the next morning.  That’s a good pizza.

  20. 20.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Not just see connections that don’t exist, they make up connections that don’t exist, out of whole cloth. They also see shitforbrains as a valid president. They are, at the very least, completely delusional. Like their idol.

  21. 21.

    Frank Wilhoit

    December 27, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I read all that kind of stuff about so-and-so’s friends and former colleagues and interlocking directorates, etc., etc., and I get three things:

    1. It resonates with its intended audience because a lot of things do happen on the basis of who knows who, but the reason for that is extreme laziness, not some kind of preternatural pertinacity and frictionless collaboration towards shared goals;
    2. On that note, none of these people have ever tried to organize a concert;
    3. If this were happening in the UK, it would all be about who went to the same school.
  22. 22.

    dnfree

    December 27, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    @Cermet: japa21 said it was going around on the right wing.  Didn’t say it was true or plausible.

  23. 23.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 27, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    @Baud:

    In Freudian pyschoanalysis, it does. Which I’ve always saw as pseudoscientific BS. Jungian pyschoanalysis too

  24. 24.

    raven

    December 27, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Since we lost Tony Rice it’s only right to play some Pizza Tapes!

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 5:37 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Why do you think that the microwave was invented?

    To warm up cold pizza. Kids today……

  26. 26.

    Frank Wilhoit

    December 27, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Ahem.

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    December 27, 2020 at 5:41 pm

    Meanwhile, five females were killed in an Arkansas home, about an hour north of Little Rock,  on Christmas day.  Somehow, this story is not making the news, although I find it both tragic and a tad unusual.  The shooter was, very likely, a woman.  ABC News:

    Five women and girls were found dead at a home in rural Arkansas in what police believe to be a multiple homicide on Christmas night.

    Police reported to the scene on Friday night after a family member visited the home in Atkins, Arkansas, and found the five dead bodies, according to the Pope County Sheriff’s Office.

    While they have not identified a suspect, they do not believe anyone is at large. The suspect is believed to be among the dead, Pope County Sheriff Shane Jones said at a press conference Saturday afternoon.

    The victims, all believed to be related, included three children and two adults ranging in age from 8 to 50 years old.

    Authorities said the individuals were shot, Jones said. They have not been identified.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    @Ruckus: I’m just saying – you can eat good pizza cold.

    And now I’m considering ordering a pizza instead of warming up some leftover pasta and meat sauce.

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:47 pm

    In which Kurt beats Little Marco in the science books stacks with a textbook or all of them…

    I want to explain this, since fucking moron @marcorubio is spreading more COVID disinformation. (After pushing to the front of the line for vaccines.) Fauci hasnt lied once. Marco is too stupid to understand science. When more data arrives in science, recommendations change…/1— Kurt “Masks Save Lives” Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) December 27, 2020

  30. 30.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 27, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    @Baud:  Wow, I learn something new every day reading this blog.

  31. 31.

    japa21

    December 27, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    @dnfree: Thank you.

  32. 32.

    The Moar You Know

    December 27, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    I’m surprised I haven’t heard about insane conspiracy theories on Parler about how the vaccines are actually “mind control serum” developed by the CIA who are actually controlled by the Reptillian NWO to consolidate control over the world.

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  You got two out of three right off the bat. The Reptilians are very turn-of-the-century crackpot fuel, but the rest is hot, fresh and very addictive.

  33. 33.

    raven

    December 27, 2020 at 5:49 pm

    @Elizabelle: The Rockford, Il killer of 3 is an active duty Special Forces soldier.

  34. 34.

    sab

    December 27, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    The opening feed doesn’t work for me. Got some ads and nada after that.

  35. 35.

    MagdaInBlack

    December 27, 2020 at 5:50 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Half the reason for ordering pizza is to have some cold for breakfast =-)

  36. 36.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    @raven:

    This is one of my favs from Jerry. Was never much of a fan before hearing this. Opened my ears to hear what he actually did rather than what I thought he did.

    Interesting tidbit. My bicycle shop was down the street a half block from what had been the Grateful Dead warehouse which closed not long before I opened up. The number of people who told me that rather amazed me actually. A bicycle company moved in and I repaired titanium frames for them as I built steel and titanium frames so worked out good for both of us.

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    @The Moar You Know: These nutjobs need to get out more.  Perhaps a night out to have an orgy with some lizard people in the basement of a pizzeria.

  38. 38.

    Kent

    December 27, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    So, more terrorism by another white male.

    Is it time yet to have a conversation about white-on-white violence and terrorism in this country?

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:54 pm

    @MagdaInBlack:

    Half the reason for ordering pizza is to have some cold for breakfast =-) 

    Yes.  You know.

  40. 40.

    debbie

    December 27, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Everyone’s beating on Lil Marco today.

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:56 pm

    @Kent:

    So, more terrorism by another white male.

    Is it time yet to have a conversation about white-on-white violence and terrorism in this country?

    I believe the response is “It’s too soon.”

  42. 42.

    jayjaybear

    December 27, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    Some of you might remember about a week before Christmas when I posted about my husband getting sick and going to the hospital. I don’t have any good updates for that situation. He passed away on Dec. 22, at 5-ish AM. I had actually gotten sick myself about 5 days after he went into the hospital (from skipping a dialysis treatment due to the snow on Wednesday), so I was able to see him before he passed (I was actually on the same wing). They woke me up right after it happened to tell me and allow me to say goodbye.

    I’m still kind of blindly finding my way. I’ve been discharged and I’m home now, alone after 17 years.

    Sorry…I don’t want to be maudlin. I’m just fumbling for how I’m supposed to feel right now.

  43. 43.

    Elizabelle

    December 27, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @raven:   Yikes.  Active duty Special Forces.

  44. 44.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 27, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @debbie:

    Everyone’s beating on Lil Marco today.

    It’s the most wonderful time of the year.

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    @debbie:

    Everyone’s beating on Lil Marco today. 

    Part of me read this as disapproval, but I know better.

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 27, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    Oh my god, I am so sorry. No words for a loss of that magnitude.

    Edit: And you’re supposed to feel however you feel. Grief has no rules.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    December 27, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    I’m sorry.  My condolences.

  48. 48.

    ixnay

    December 27, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    @MagdaInBlack: Best way to rejuvenate cold pizza (assuming you would prefer warm and crispy): 20 sec or so in the microwave, then time in a hot, dry frying pan. Not that there is anything wrong with cold pizza.

  49. 49.

    Martin

    December 27, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    Still think this guy was just an AT&T customer that had enough. There’s only so many war crimes one cellular customer can endure.

  50. 50.

    Delk

    December 27, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    @japa21: no mention of 5G?

  51. 51.

    MagdaInBlack

    December 27, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so very sorry. There is no “supposed to”, as I learned in a similar event. Everyone feels their way through it. What you feel now is lost and numb.

    I am so sorry.

  52. 52.

    Anotherlurker

    December 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry to hear this. You have my sincerest condolences.

  53. 53.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @Yutsano: Given that TaMara had to text me asking why I left you alone and there is now a robust discussion of male genitalia going on in the comments, I am very well aware that nothing is or was guaranteed.

  54. 54.

    Zelma

    December 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    My sympathy for your loss.  These are such difficult times.  There are really no words.

  55. 55.

    Elizabelle

    December 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm

    @jayjaybear:   I am so sorry for your loss.  Thank you for telling us.

    Very sad news.

  56. 56.

    hitchhiker

    December 27, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Rubio is baiting people because he believes that being a target of vicious Democrats (which is how he’ll be playing it) elevates him with cult45 folk.

    It’s exactly as cynical as his ridiculous bible quote droppings.

    ETA: @jayjaybear … I’m so sorry.

  57. 57.

    satby

    December 27, 2020 at 6:04 pm

    @jayjaybear: Oh my god, so so sorry. No words. Is there anyone you can call for help?

  58. 58.

    geg6

    December 27, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    OMG, I don’t have words to say how sorry I am.  My heart is breaking for you, jayjaybear.  Love and light to you.  I wish I could hug you right now, but I hope you can feel it from afar.

  59. 59.

    Comrade Colette

    December 27, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    @jayjaybear:  Oh no. I’m so sorry. How awful.

  60. 60.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 27, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry. {{{ }}} Take care of yourself.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    December 27, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @jayjaybear: That is so heartbreaking, and I’m so sorry.   If you need to, please continue to share.    2020 sucks

  62. 62.

    piratedan

    December 27, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @jayjaybear: there is no right way to feel.  You do you, cope however you can and as much as you need to share and even at times wallow, you know that we’re here for you to do so.

  63. 63.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @jayjaybear: I’m so sorry jayjaybear.

  64. 64.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    So sorry.

    As @SiubhanDuinne: says, there just are no words.

    and as she also says, And you’re supposed to feel however you feel. Grief has no rules.

    I always listen to my betters. Especially when they are right.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    @Elizabelle: Dammit! I know that area. I used to live in Conway, AR when I taught at University of Central Arkansas.

  66. 66.

    eclare

    December 27, 2020 at 6:09 pm

    @jayjaybear:  I am so sorry for your loss

  67. 67.

    laura

    December 27, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    @jayjaybear: The feelings of loss and grief are unique and valid and I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Please do check in and let those who can offer solace and comfort help in any of the ways that you need. {{{{{HUG}}}}}

  68. 68.

    Haroldo

    December 27, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    I am so very sorry about your husband.

    I wish you good health.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m assuming you have an explanation for this?

    Twitter is serving me ads about opportunities to meet over-40 Ukrainian women. Nice try @RudyGiuliani

    Tho maybe I can hire one to take the Christmas lights down

    — ISSUEALLTHEPARDONShat (@Popehat) December 26, 2020

  70. 70.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 27, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    a robust discussion of male genitalia going on in the comments 

    Annnnnd nominated.

  71. 71.

    Comrade Colette

    December 27, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    @jayjaybear:  Can we help you with transport (or funding for it) so you don’t miss another dialysis session, snow or no snow? It’s so hard to deal with that issue at the best of times, and I can’t even imagine coping with it now.

  72. 72.

    Kristine

    December 27, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry. What everyone else posted about helping with transportation and checking in here.

     

  73. 73.

    Elizabelle

    December 27, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:   There’s been so little information on this particular story.  Gonna check out the local news there, now.

    And you do get around with your teaching career!

  74. 74.

    Elizabelle

    December 27, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    @Comrade Colette:   That’s a great idea.

  75. 75.

    dkinPa

    December 27, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @jayjaybear: So very sorry for your loss.  2020 sucks.  I hope you have family and friends you can lean on.

  76. 76.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio

    December 27, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @jayjaybear: I’m so sorry. That’s hard. I wish you strength and healing for all your hurts.

  77. 77.

    soga98

    December 27, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @jayjaybear: Take it from one who has been there: the way to feel is numb. Force yourself to go numbly through all you have to do. That will glide you past much of the pain. When it overcomes you, find a quiet place to cry and chant the mantra Numb…numb…numb. That got me through a temptation to suicide. I know the pain. You have all my sympathy,

  78. 78.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    @Kent:

    No.

    It’s way past time. So far past you can’t see in the rear view mirror.

    This concept that life is so tough that we need to always kill our enemies is bullshit. Especially when people are considered enemies because of their skin color, or beliefs that people are actually equal, or that your stupidity entitles you to money and free lifetime of cornflakes. Or any other number of asinine reasons/concepts of danger that isn’t, of self inflicted loss can be cured by another’s death.

    This nation needs a, I have no idea what to call it, but at least a discussion of gross, craven stupidity and the political party responsible for it. You know, for a lack of a better name, a come to jesus discussion.

  79. 79.

    cain

    December 27, 2020 at 6:21 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I always thought because they pair so well with Totino’s party pizza :D

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    @Kent: In this case we don’t know if it was terrorism as we don’t know the motive.

  81. 81.

    dr. bloor

    December 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: A cigar.

  82. 82.

    debbie

    December 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    I am so sorry for your loss.

  83. 83.

    cain

    December 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    i understand crab people is who we need to worry about. They already were caught masquerading as the people behind ‘Queer eye for straight guy’

    The gay-crab people-aliens industrial complex is REAL – read about it in the weekly midnight star!

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:23 pm

    @jayjaybear: I’m so sorry to read this. My sincerest condolences.

  85. 85.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    @debbie:

    With baseball bats?

    Because that’s probably the only way to get anything into that thick head. And no I’m not recommending this as a solution. I’m remarking on the thickness of said cranial dumpster and the thickness of the surrounding tissue that keeps out any reality that’s within several thousand miles of him.

  86. 86.

    Delk

    December 27, 2020 at 6:25 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am saddened to hear this. My deepest condolences to you.

  87. 87.

    Geminid

    December 27, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    It sounds like the Lebanon, Tennessee incident this afternoon was a prank. I don’t think the guy who did it is laughing now, though.

  88. 88.

    cain

    December 27, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    @jayjaybear: Sorry…I don’t want to be maudlin. I’m just fumbling for how I’m supposed to feel right now.

    Oh no, I’m so so sorry.  You are allowed to be maudlin – you lost your partner in crime. ;( This goddam year…

  89. 89.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 27, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    @Elizabelle: I did when I had one. I did a couple of visiting positions before I got the tenure track. And, of course, because of how miserable I was the tenure track was the last academic position. I enjoyed UCA despite the fact that the sidewalks in both Conway and Little Rock are rolled up at sunset. They had, apparently, gotten permission to convert my position from visiting directly to tenure track, but didn’t tell me until after I had accepted the offer in New York.

  90. 90.

    cain

    December 27, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    @Martin:

    Huh.. I don’t know. If it was something like that I would think it would be Comcast that would have been targeted. Nobody likes them and they are raising the rates of all their cable packages.

  91. 91.

    dr. bloor

    December 27, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    @jayjaybear: So, so sorry.  No words.

  92. 92.

    Wanderer

    December 27, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    @jayjaybear:  I am very sorry for your loss.

  93. 93.

    zhena gogolia

    December 27, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    @jayjaybear: 
    Oh, that is heartbreaking. I am so sorry for you.

  94. 94.

    prostratedragon

    December 27, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @jayjaybear:  My condolences. May you find light in your own time.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    December 27, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @jayjaybear: Oh, I’m so sorry.  So a terrible loss.  A good friend told me once that grief is like a river, and you have to follow it wherever it takes you.

  96. 96.

    opiejeanne

    December 27, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    @jayjaybear: Oh no! I’m so sorry.

  97. 97.

    TS (the original)

    December 27, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    So sorry to hear your news, feel any which way, there are no rules.

  98. 98.

    Kent

    December 27, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:@Kent: In this case we don’t know if it was terrorism as we don’t know the motive.

    What other motive could there be?  Urban renewal?

    I’m using the term “terrorism” somewhat loosely I suppose.  But anytime someone deliberately blows up a city block that seems like terrorism.

  99. 99.

    Cermet

    December 27, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    So very sorry to hear jayjaybear.

    That this white old(er) male just happen to take out a critical communications building using an extreamly powerful explosive that required a lot of prep and study in no ways indicates that he would waste time picking a critical communications site that shut down a multi-state wide area and will take days to partly get back up (weeks to fix?). Not terrorism at all; again, white male living in fly over country. Nothing to see or note here. Move along and wait for a real terrorist – like a black, or brown or muslim to do something and then the media will go terrorism 24/7 from the jump.

  100. 100.

    Mike E

    December 27, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    jayjaybear I am so sorry for your loss

  101. 101.

    Wolvesvalley

    December 27, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    @jayjaybear: What terrible news. I am so, so sorry to see it.

    My mother-in-law borrowed the Quaker saying, “Holding you in the light.” Know that we jackals are doing that for you.

  102. 102.

    ellie

    December 27, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    @jayjaybear:  I am so sorry for your loss.

  103. 103.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 27, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    Looks like Trump is going to sign the Covid Relief/Stimulus bill tonight.

  104. 104.

    zhena gogolia

    December 27, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Hmmm. I wonder who got to him, or what they promised him.

  105. 105.

    randy khan

    December 27, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Well, Kennard did hold the FCC and EU jobs and he is on the board of AT&T, so by the standards of these sorts of things it’s practically rock solid.

  106. 106.

    Baud

    December 27, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    That’s good news.  Hope he follows through. Sounds like someone may have convinced him he was going to get the blame.

  107. 107.

    smedley the uncertain

    December 27, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    @jayjaybear: My deepest sympathy. Words are so hard to find to express my thoughts for solace I would share with you. You are not alone you are in our minds and we’re here for you.

  108. 108.

    satby

    December 27, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @Baud: Well everyone and their uncle (but not Lindsay) on the Republican side was all over the news site blaming him personally, so he just might have gotten a clue he’d get the blame. So yeah.

  109. 109.

    Baud

    December 27, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    @satby:

    I’ve been on a news blackout during the holidays.  Thanks for the info.

  110. 110.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    December 27, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    @jayjaybear: My God!! I’m so sorry for your loss. I know this level of loss, and I grieve with you. May time ease the pain, and know that you are among friends here.

  111. 111.

    JPL

    December 27, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    @Baud: Since the bill also funds the government, someone probably mentioned how  his travels would be limited.    After his tweet about the bill, he did tweet about his big, beautiful, rally in GA.

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    December 27, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    @satby: Even on FOX?  yikes

  113. 113.

    Tony Jay

    December 27, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    There are no words. I’ll just say, don’t be afraid to use this place when you need some distanced help. There are a lot of shoulders here.

  114. 114.

    Yutsano

    December 27, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @jayjaybear: I have no words. Just…take whatever time you need for yourself. We’ll still be here.

  115. 115.

    Amir Khalid

    December 27, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    I’m sorry for your loss. There’s no prescribed way to feel about this. It will hit you however it hits you. I hope there’s someone there for you in physical space who can help you cope.

  116. 116.

    CarolDuhart2

    December 27, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    @jayjaybear: Look for help when you can get it, and just tiptoe through all this.

     

     

    +Just

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    @Wolvesvalley:

    My sister practiced Quaker, at least little anyways. I went to service with her once. I liked that there was no preacher, no one to tell us we were doing wrong or needed to do better, just others, listening or speaking their minds and being respectful of others. Sister wanted a circle for her memorial. No one likes memorials, it means a loss. But in Quaker it means a time to greave and also a time to celebrate a life well lived. Sister had probably 100 people at hers, family, friends, her students. I’d say nearly half of them stood up and talked about her and her life. I’d known her for nearly 60 yrs, I learned things that day. Good things and funny things. It didn’t change the way or what I knew about her but it did widen the knowledge that she touched so many, so well in her 66 yrs. If I was going to be religious, I’d be a Quaker.

  118. 118.

    Ohio Mom

    December 27, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    Jayjaybear:

    What a terrible shock, to go from everyday life to widowhood in a week’s time. Your can add my deepest sympathy for the unfathomable loss of your husband to everyone else’s condolences.

    As others have said, whatever you feel at any given moment is the right way to feel — but I add one exception: you must find it in you to keep your health up, no matter your mood. That is how we honor our dead, by living the best lives we can.

    Please keep posting. Even if it is only the most humdrum reports of your day, we want to see you through this dark time.

  119. 119.

    dnfree

    December 27, 2020 at 7:29 pm

    @Kent: don’t know the race of the victims in the bowling alley attack. Per social media, at least one was black.

  120. 120.

    sab

    December 27, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry. I was wondering about you the past couple of days.

    Please keep us in touch with how you are doimg.

  121. 121.

    Bex

    December 27, 2020 at 7:39 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: You are right.  Grief has no rules.  Please remember that jayjaybear.

  122. 122.

    polyorchnid octopunch

    December 27, 2020 at 7:58 pm

    @jayjaybear: I’m so sorry jjbear. Keep talking to folks here, and wherever else you can. Grief is what it is and numbness is to be expected. There’s no need for apologies… take it from this Canadian. Maudlin is not where you are right now.

    All my best to you.

  123. 123.

    nasruddin

    December 27, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @Cermet:  “Kraken” was a real supercomputer, at ORNL in TN.  Started up in 2009,  retired in 2014, & as far as I know it’s completely gone.  https://www.hpcwire.com/2014/06/05/remembering-kraken/

  124. 124.

    gbbalto

    December 27, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @jayjaybear: So sorry to read this! My utmost condolences

  125. 125.

    Citizen_X

    December 27, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so very sorry to hear that.

  126. 126.

    Bob Huddleston

    December 27, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    Per Wikipedia, University of Tennessee Kraken was taken offline and retired on April 30, 2014.

  127. 127.

    brantl

    December 27, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    @jayjaybear:  Damn, I’m sorry.

  128. 128.

    Fair Economist

    December 27, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    @jayjaybear: Jayjaybear, I’m so sorry. Take good care of yourself, you deserve it.

  129. 129.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 27, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    @jayjaybear: Sorry to hear of your husband’s passing, my condolences.

  130. 130.

    trollhattan

    December 27, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    So very sorry to read this. Please accept my sympathies and have faith that you will pull through, and things will get better.

  131. 131.

    Chris T.

    December 27, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @japa21: Furthermore, the people investigating this bombing breathe air, and Joe Biden breathes air! CONSPIRACY!

  132. 132.

    J R in WV

    December 27, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @Ruckus: 

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Why do you think that the microwave was invented?

    To warm up cold pizza. Kids today……

    Actually, long time ago I realized the best way to heat up pizza, whether carry out I picked up on the way home from work 50 minutes ago or left over from last night was in an iron skillet, with a lid on. Not too hot!

    It crisps the crust on the bottom and melts the cheese on top. Yum!!! No Microwave!! Those are for thawing frozen bread, or bagels, or chicken enough to slice it for curry, etc. Not for making toast, or heating pizza!

  133. 133.

    J R in WV

    December 27, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    So sorry for your loss. No wonder you feel lost and confused, no other way to feel at this point. Take care, and let us know if you need comforting. We feel for you, and hope you can rest and heal.

    Please keep in touch going forward!

  134. 134.

    WaterGirl

    December 27, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @J R in WV: I’m with you.  Microwaving a pizza completely changes the texture of the crust, and the texture of the crust is very important.

    Only heathens would microwave a  pizza.  but I mean that in the nicest possible way.

  135. 135.

    Wolvesvalley

    December 27, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Ruckus: The single Quaker memorial service I attended was like that. Many people stood and spoke of our friend’s life. Good things and funny things, just as at your sister’s memorial. The silences between the speeches were meditative and comfortable; there was no pressure to fill a vacuum. It was a good way to remember our friend.

  136. 136.

    Laura Too

    December 27, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry. This is such a rough time of year anyway, and 2020…hugs!

  137. 137.

    Lyrebird

    December 27, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @jayjaybear: Oh what an enormous loss, and you also ill on top of it all.  I don’t know your story, but I am wishing you all the soup and comfort and help you need.

  138. 138.

    Uncle Cosmo

    December 27, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @debbie: Everyone’s beating on Lil Marco today.

    Since he’s little, why don’t we just call him Micro? Micro Rubio.

  139. 139.

    Juju

    December 27, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am sorry for your loss. You get through it however you can.  I’m sending hugs your way.

  140. 140.

    JanieM

    December 27, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @jayjaybear:  Sad for you, and like everyone else here, I’ll be thinking of you.

  141. 141.

    Ruckus

    December 27, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    @WaterGirl: 
    Not to cook the damn thing, just to heat it up. Maybe also it’s because my microwave isn’t 30 yrs old. I had one from the mid/late 80s but it died after a long, long life of abuse in my machine shop. The one I bought last year is dramatically better and if you actually learn to use it doesn’t ruin food. Also I don’t know anywhere around where I live to buy actually good pizza, there’s a Little Caesars a half a block away and the next closest is the $3.99 pizza place. I’ll pass on either of those, they are, what’s the word I’m looking for, crap. Yep that’s it, crap. I have found one good frozen pizza, but over the last month I haven’t seen it in the stores any more.

  142. 142.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    December 27, 2020 at 10:54 pm

    @jayjaybear: 

    I am so sorry to hear this and you’re not being maudlin at all. Grief is something that has no rules so please do not worry about that. Please take care of yourself and reach out if you need to!

    2020 continues to suck major ass…

  143. 143.

    Noskilz

    December 27, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    @jayjaybear:  So terribly sorry for your loss – hopefully things will go as well as they can for you at such an awful time.

  144. 144.

    No One You Know

    December 27, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you see this. Anything we can do?

  145. 145.

    WaterGirl

    December 27, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    @Ruckus: I am talking about reheating.  I would never reheat pizza in the microwave because it ruins the texture of the crust.  Just my opinion.

  146. 146.

    Sister Golden Bear

    December 28, 2020 at 12:03 am

    @jayjaybear: I’m so sorry for your loss.

  147. 147.

    Jim Appleton

    December 28, 2020 at 3:42 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): 
    In sumo, it’s “sometimes a sagari is just a sagari” …

  148. 148.

    Quantumman

    December 28, 2020 at 7:15 am

    @jayjaybear: I am so sorry to see this.  As others have said, there are no words adequate at a time like this.

  149. 149.

    Miss Bianca

    December 28, 2020 at 11:00 am

    @jayjaybear: 

    Very late to this thread, just wanted to say how sorry I was to hear this news. And that it’s far from maudlin to express your shock and grief at the loss of a loved one. My condolences.

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