Here’s the live feed of the Nashville, Tennessee law enforcement press conference updating the information regarding the Christmas morning bombing:
They’ve identified the perpetrator as Anthony Warner based on a combination of evidence including DNA evidence found at the scene.
There is still no information that has been presented by law enforcement at this time – as in seven minutes into the press conference – for a motive.
Open thread.
PS: For those concerned about initial reporting that a similar incident was underway in Lebanon, TN, that has been cleared by police. No explosives were found in the box truck there.
Adam L Silverman
And, of course, MSNBC is now interviewing Clint Van Zandt…
Barbara
@Adam L Silverman: Ugh.
raven
CNN’s experts are pretty funny. The announcer is fucking amazed how quickly they ID’d him! “Well, since he wasn’t trying to hide his identity. . . “
japa21
Not sure the following is making me laugh or cry, but this is going around the RW.
Adam L Silverman
@japa21: It isn’t hard to fact check that story, it is all bullshit.
Adam L Silverman
I’m going to go start dinner. You all try not to self immolate, self detonate, or self anything else while I’m gone. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves from an appropriately socially distanced distance.
mrmoshpotato
@japa21: Read as far as the first “Dominion.”
Oh crackpots…
jackmac
So many unanswered questions, but at least it appears that the Nashville bomber went to great pains to ensure that no one else was killed. Contrast that with the other holiday tragedy several hundred miles north as a Florida man walked into a Rockford, Ill. bowling alley on Saturday night deliberately looking for people to kill. Three died, three were injured in what was described as a random shooting. Suspect, identified as an active military, is in custody while friends and families of victims are in mourning.
japa21
@Adam L Silverman: Fully aware.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@japa21:
There’s a quote by Freud, probably apocryphal: “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
These people see connections that aren’t actually meaningful. Coincidences exist.
I’m surprised I haven’t heard about insane conspiracy theories on Parler about how the vaccines are actually “mind control serum” developed by the CIA who are actually controlled by the Reptillian NWO to consolidate control over the world.
SiubhanDuinne
@japa21:
THAT’S JUST SCIENCE!
Cermet
@japa21: Oh please! The absoult dead give away that the story is Bullshit is the super computer named … wait for it … Kracken! LOLOLOLOL. Then the rest is a total stew of all key words…please. You posted that laughable word salad of conspirary nonsense?
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
A cigar usually signifies a penis.
mrmoshpotato
@Cermet: Mmmmm Supercomputer rum.
Mike in NC
@mrmoshpotato: Tomorrow the wingnuts will be calling for a boycott of Dominos Pizza. Maybe one of them will claim Hunter Biden is on the Board of Directors.
cain
@japa21:
I’m surprised there wasn’t anything related to the email server and Clinton to top it off.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
Ahhh…new site. But what does a penis signify then?
Yutsano
@Adam L Silverman:
I GUARANTEE NOTHING!!!
mrmoshpotato
@Mike in NC: No problem here.
The pizza test is if you can eat leftovers cold the next morning. That’s a good pizza.
Ruckus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Not just see connections that don’t exist, they make up connections that don’t exist, out of whole cloth. They also see shitforbrains as a valid president. They are, at the very least, completely delusional. Like their idol.
Frank Wilhoit
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I read all that kind of stuff about so-and-so’s friends and former colleagues and interlocking directorates, etc., etc., and I get three things:
dnfree
@Cermet: japa21 said it was going around on the right wing. Didn’t say it was true or plausible.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
In Freudian pyschoanalysis, it does. Which I’ve always saw as pseudoscientific BS. Jungian pyschoanalysis too
raven
@mrmoshpotato: Since we lost Tony Rice it’s only right to play some Pizza Tapes!
Ruckus
@mrmoshpotato:
Why do you think that the microwave was invented?
To warm up cold pizza. Kids today……
Frank Wilhoit
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Ahem.
Elizabelle
Meanwhile, five females were killed in an Arkansas home, about an hour north of Little Rock, on Christmas day. Somehow, this story is not making the news, although I find it both tragic and a tad unusual. The shooter was, very likely, a woman. ABC News:
mrmoshpotato
@Ruckus: I’m just saying – you can eat good pizza cold.
And now I’m considering ordering a pizza instead of warming up some leftover pasta and meat sauce.
mrmoshpotato
In which Kurt beats Little Marco in the science books stacks with a textbook or all of them…
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: Wow, I learn something new every day reading this blog.
japa21
@dnfree: Thank you.
The Moar You Know
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): You got two out of three right off the bat. The Reptilians are very turn-of-the-century crackpot fuel, but the rest is hot, fresh and very addictive.
raven
@Elizabelle: The Rockford, Il killer of 3 is an active duty Special Forces soldier.
sab
The opening feed doesn’t work for me. Got some ads and nada after that.
MagdaInBlack
@mrmoshpotato: Half the reason for ordering pizza is to have some cold for breakfast =-)
Ruckus
@raven:
This is one of my favs from Jerry. Was never much of a fan before hearing this. Opened my ears to hear what he actually did rather than what I thought he did.
Interesting tidbit. My bicycle shop was down the street a half block from what had been the Grateful Dead warehouse which closed not long before I opened up. The number of people who told me that rather amazed me actually. A bicycle company moved in and I repaired titanium frames for them as I built steel and titanium frames so worked out good for both of us.
mrmoshpotato
@The Moar You Know: These nutjobs need to get out more. Perhaps a night out to have an orgy with some lizard people in the basement of a pizzeria.
Kent
So, more terrorism by another white male.
Is it time yet to have a conversation about white-on-white violence and terrorism in this country?
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack:
Yes. You know.
debbie
@mrmoshpotato:
Everyone’s beating on Lil Marco today.
mrmoshpotato
@Kent:
I believe the response is “It’s too soon.”
jayjaybear
Some of you might remember about a week before Christmas when I posted about my husband getting sick and going to the hospital. I don’t have any good updates for that situation. He passed away on Dec. 22, at 5-ish AM. I had actually gotten sick myself about 5 days after he went into the hospital (from skipping a dialysis treatment due to the snow on Wednesday), so I was able to see him before he passed (I was actually on the same wing). They woke me up right after it happened to tell me and allow me to say goodbye.
I’m still kind of blindly finding my way. I’ve been discharged and I’m home now, alone after 17 years.
Sorry…I don’t want to be maudlin. I’m just fumbling for how I’m supposed to feel right now.
Elizabelle
@raven: Yikes. Active duty Special Forces.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
It’s the most wonderful time of the year.
mrmoshpotato
@debbie:
Part of me read this as disapproval, but I know better.
SiubhanDuinne
@jayjaybear:
Oh my god, I am so sorry. No words for a loss of that magnitude.
Edit: And you’re supposed to feel however you feel. Grief has no rules.
Baud
@jayjaybear:
I’m sorry. My condolences.
ixnay
@MagdaInBlack: Best way to rejuvenate cold pizza (assuming you would prefer warm and crispy): 20 sec or so in the microwave, then time in a hot, dry frying pan. Not that there is anything wrong with cold pizza.
Martin
Still think this guy was just an AT&T customer that had enough. There’s only so many war crimes one cellular customer can endure.
Delk
@japa21: no mention of 5G?
MagdaInBlack
@jayjaybear: I am so very sorry. There is no “supposed to”, as I learned in a similar event. Everyone feels their way through it. What you feel now is lost and numb.
I am so sorry.
Anotherlurker
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry to hear this. You have my sincerest condolences.
Adam L Silverman
@Yutsano: Given that TaMara had to text me asking why I left you alone and there is now a robust discussion of male genitalia going on in the comments, I am very well aware that nothing is or was guaranteed.
Zelma
@jayjaybear:
My sympathy for your loss. These are such difficult times. There are really no words.
Elizabelle
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for telling us.
Very sad news.
hitchhiker
@SiubhanDuinne:
Rubio is baiting people because he believes that being a target of vicious Democrats (which is how he’ll be playing it) elevates him with cult45 folk.
It’s exactly as cynical as his ridiculous bible quote droppings.
ETA: @jayjaybear … I’m so sorry.
satby
@jayjaybear: Oh my god, so so sorry. No words. Is there anyone you can call for help?
geg6
@jayjaybear:
OMG, I don’t have words to say how sorry I am. My heart is breaking for you, jayjaybear. Love and light to you. I wish I could hug you right now, but I hope you can feel it from afar.
Comrade Colette
@jayjaybear: Oh no. I’m so sorry. How awful.
schrodingers_cat
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry. {{{ }}} Take care of yourself.
JPL
@jayjaybear: That is so heartbreaking, and I’m so sorry. If you need to, please continue to share. 2020 sucks
piratedan
@jayjaybear: there is no right way to feel. You do you, cope however you can and as much as you need to share and even at times wallow, you know that we’re here for you to do so.
mrmoshpotato
@jayjaybear: I’m so sorry jayjaybear.
Ruckus
@jayjaybear:
So sorry.
As @SiubhanDuinne: says, there just are no words.
and as she also says, And you’re supposed to feel however you feel. Grief has no rules.
I always listen to my betters. Especially when they are right.
Adam L Silverman
@Elizabelle: Dammit! I know that area. I used to live in Conway, AR when I taught at University of Central Arkansas.
eclare
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry for your loss
laura
@jayjaybear: The feelings of loss and grief are unique and valid and I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Please do check in and let those who can offer solace and comfort help in any of the ways that you need. {{{{{HUG}}}}}
Haroldo
@jayjaybear:
I am so very sorry about your husband.
I wish you good health.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: I’m assuming you have an explanation for this?
mrmoshpotato
@Adam L Silverman:
Annnnnd nominated.
Comrade Colette
@jayjaybear: Can we help you with transport (or funding for it) so you don’t miss another dialysis session, snow or no snow? It’s so hard to deal with that issue at the best of times, and I can’t even imagine coping with it now.
Kristine
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry. What everyone else posted about helping with transportation and checking in here.
Elizabelle
@Adam L Silverman: There’s been so little information on this particular story. Gonna check out the local news there, now.
And you do get around with your teaching career!
Elizabelle
@Comrade Colette: That’s a great idea.
dkinPa
@jayjaybear: So very sorry for your loss. 2020 sucks. I hope you have family and friends you can lean on.
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@jayjaybear: I’m so sorry. That’s hard. I wish you strength and healing for all your hurts.
soga98
@jayjaybear: Take it from one who has been there: the way to feel is numb. Force yourself to go numbly through all you have to do. That will glide you past much of the pain. When it overcomes you, find a quiet place to cry and chant the mantra Numb…numb…numb. That got me through a temptation to suicide. I know the pain. You have all my sympathy,
Ruckus
@Kent:
No.
It’s way past time. So far past you can’t see in the rear view mirror.
This concept that life is so tough that we need to always kill our enemies is bullshit. Especially when people are considered enemies because of their skin color, or beliefs that people are actually equal, or that your stupidity entitles you to money and free lifetime of cornflakes. Or any other number of asinine reasons/concepts of danger that isn’t, of self inflicted loss can be cured by another’s death.
This nation needs a, I have no idea what to call it, but at least a discussion of gross, craven stupidity and the political party responsible for it. You know, for a lack of a better name, a come to jesus discussion.
cain
@Ruckus:
I always thought because they pair so well with Totino’s party pizza :D
Adam L Silverman
@Kent: In this case we don’t know if it was terrorism as we don’t know the motive.
dr. bloor
@mrmoshpotato: A cigar.
debbie
@jayjaybear:
I am so sorry for your loss.
cain
@The Moar You Know:
i understand crab people is who we need to worry about. They already were caught masquerading as the people behind ‘Queer eye for straight guy’
The gay-crab people-aliens industrial complex is REAL – read about it in the weekly midnight star!
Adam L Silverman
@jayjaybear: I’m so sorry to read this. My sincerest condolences.
Ruckus
@debbie:
With baseball bats?
Because that’s probably the only way to get anything into that thick head. And no I’m not recommending this as a solution. I’m remarking on the thickness of said cranial dumpster and the thickness of the surrounding tissue that keeps out any reality that’s within several thousand miles of him.
Delk
@jayjaybear: I am saddened to hear this. My deepest condolences to you.
Geminid
It sounds like the Lebanon, Tennessee incident this afternoon was a prank. I don’t think the guy who did it is laughing now, though.
cain
Oh no, I’m so so sorry. You are allowed to be maudlin – you lost your partner in crime. ;( This goddam year…
Adam L Silverman
@Elizabelle: I did when I had one. I did a couple of visiting positions before I got the tenure track. And, of course, because of how miserable I was the tenure track was the last academic position. I enjoyed UCA despite the fact that the sidewalks in both Conway and Little Rock are rolled up at sunset. They had, apparently, gotten permission to convert my position from visiting directly to tenure track, but didn’t tell me until after I had accepted the offer in New York.
cain
@Martin:
Huh.. I don’t know. If it was something like that I would think it would be Comcast that would have been targeted. Nobody likes them and they are raising the rates of all their cable packages.
dr. bloor
@jayjaybear: So, so sorry. No words.
Wanderer
@jayjaybear: I am very sorry for your loss.
zhena gogolia
@jayjaybear:
Oh, that is heartbreaking. I am so sorry for you.
prostratedragon
@jayjaybear: My condolences. May you find light in your own time.
WaterGirl
@jayjaybear: Oh, I’m so sorry. So a terrible loss. A good friend told me once that grief is like a river, and you have to follow it wherever it takes you.
opiejeanne
@jayjaybear: Oh no! I’m so sorry.
TS (the original)
@jayjaybear:
So sorry to hear your news, feel any which way, there are no rules.
Kent
What other motive could there be? Urban renewal?
I’m using the term “terrorism” somewhat loosely I suppose. But anytime someone deliberately blows up a city block that seems like terrorism.
Cermet
So very sorry to hear jayjaybear.
That this white old(er) male just happen to take out a critical communications building using an extreamly powerful explosive that required a lot of prep and study in no ways indicates that he would waste time picking a critical communications site that shut down a multi-state wide area and will take days to partly get back up (weeks to fix?). Not terrorism at all; again, white male living in fly over country. Nothing to see or note here. Move along and wait for a real terrorist – like a black, or brown or muslim to do something and then the media will go terrorism 24/7 from the jump.
Mike E
jayjaybear I am so sorry for your loss
Wolvesvalley
@jayjaybear: What terrible news. I am so, so sorry to see it.
My mother-in-law borrowed the Quaker saying, “Holding you in the light.” Know that we jackals are doing that for you.
ellie
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry for your loss.
SiubhanDuinne
Looks like Trump is going to sign the Covid Relief/Stimulus bill tonight.
zhena gogolia
@SiubhanDuinne:
Hmmm. I wonder who got to him, or what they promised him.
randy khan
@Adam L Silverman:
Well, Kennard did hold the FCC and EU jobs and he is on the board of AT&T, so by the standards of these sorts of things it’s practically rock solid.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
That’s good news. Hope he follows through. Sounds like someone may have convinced him he was going to get the blame.
smedley the uncertain
@jayjaybear: My deepest sympathy. Words are so hard to find to express my thoughts for solace I would share with you. You are not alone you are in our minds and we’re here for you.
satby
@Baud: Well everyone and their uncle (but not Lindsay) on the Republican side was all over the news site blaming him personally, so he just might have gotten a clue he’d get the blame. So yeah.
Baud
@satby:
I’ve been on a news blackout during the holidays. Thanks for the info.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@jayjaybear: My God!! I’m so sorry for your loss. I know this level of loss, and I grieve with you. May time ease the pain, and know that you are among friends here.
JPL
@Baud: Since the bill also funds the government, someone probably mentioned how his travels would be limited. After his tweet about the bill, he did tweet about his big, beautiful, rally in GA.
WaterGirl
@satby: Even on FOX? yikes
Tony Jay
@jayjaybear:
There are no words. I’ll just say, don’t be afraid to use this place when you need some distanced help. There are a lot of shoulders here.
Yutsano
@jayjaybear: I have no words. Just…take whatever time you need for yourself. We’ll still be here.
Amir Khalid
@jayjaybear:
I’m sorry for your loss. There’s no prescribed way to feel about this. It will hit you however it hits you. I hope there’s someone there for you in physical space who can help you cope.
CarolDuhart2
@jayjaybear: Look for help when you can get it, and just tiptoe through all this.
+Just
Ruckus
@Wolvesvalley:
My sister practiced Quaker, at least little anyways. I went to service with her once. I liked that there was no preacher, no one to tell us we were doing wrong or needed to do better, just others, listening or speaking their minds and being respectful of others. Sister wanted a circle for her memorial. No one likes memorials, it means a loss. But in Quaker it means a time to greave and also a time to celebrate a life well lived. Sister had probably 100 people at hers, family, friends, her students. I’d say nearly half of them stood up and talked about her and her life. I’d known her for nearly 60 yrs, I learned things that day. Good things and funny things. It didn’t change the way or what I knew about her but it did widen the knowledge that she touched so many, so well in her 66 yrs. If I was going to be religious, I’d be a Quaker.
Ohio Mom
Jayjaybear:
What a terrible shock, to go from everyday life to widowhood in a week’s time. Your can add my deepest sympathy for the unfathomable loss of your husband to everyone else’s condolences.
As others have said, whatever you feel at any given moment is the right way to feel — but I add one exception: you must find it in you to keep your health up, no matter your mood. That is how we honor our dead, by living the best lives we can.
Please keep posting. Even if it is only the most humdrum reports of your day, we want to see you through this dark time.
dnfree
@Kent: don’t know the race of the victims in the bowling alley attack. Per social media, at least one was black.
sab
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry. I was wondering about you the past couple of days.
Please keep us in touch with how you are doimg.
Bex
@SiubhanDuinne: You are right. Grief has no rules. Please remember that jayjaybear.
polyorchnid octopunch
@jayjaybear: I’m so sorry jjbear. Keep talking to folks here, and wherever else you can. Grief is what it is and numbness is to be expected. There’s no need for apologies… take it from this Canadian. Maudlin is not where you are right now.
All my best to you.
nasruddin
@Cermet: “Kraken” was a real supercomputer, at ORNL in TN. Started up in 2009, retired in 2014, & as far as I know it’s completely gone. https://www.hpcwire.com/2014/06/05/remembering-kraken/
gbbalto
@jayjaybear: So sorry to read this! My utmost condolences
Citizen_X
@jayjaybear: I am so very sorry to hear that.
Bob Huddleston
Per Wikipedia, University of Tennessee Kraken was taken offline and retired on April 30, 2014.
brantl
@jayjaybear: Damn, I’m sorry.
Fair Economist
@jayjaybear: Jayjaybear, I’m so sorry. Take good care of yourself, you deserve it.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jayjaybear: Sorry to hear of your husband’s passing, my condolences.
trollhattan
@jayjaybear:
So very sorry to read this. Please accept my sympathies and have faith that you will pull through, and things will get better.
Chris T.
@japa21: Furthermore, the people investigating this bombing breathe air, and Joe Biden breathes air! CONSPIRACY!
J R in WV
@Ruckus:
Actually, long time ago I realized the best way to heat up pizza, whether carry out I picked up on the way home from work 50 minutes ago or left over from last night was in an iron skillet, with a lid on. Not too hot!
It crisps the crust on the bottom and melts the cheese on top. Yum!!! No Microwave!! Those are for thawing frozen bread, or bagels, or chicken enough to slice it for curry, etc. Not for making toast, or heating pizza!
J R in WV
@jayjaybear:
So sorry for your loss. No wonder you feel lost and confused, no other way to feel at this point. Take care, and let us know if you need comforting. We feel for you, and hope you can rest and heal.
Please keep in touch going forward!
WaterGirl
@J R in WV: I’m with you. Microwaving a pizza completely changes the texture of the crust, and the texture of the crust is very important.
Only heathens would microwave a pizza. but I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Wolvesvalley
@Ruckus: The single Quaker memorial service I attended was like that. Many people stood and spoke of our friend’s life. Good things and funny things, just as at your sister’s memorial. The silences between the speeches were meditative and comfortable; there was no pressure to fill a vacuum. It was a good way to remember our friend.
Laura Too
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry. This is such a rough time of year anyway, and 2020…hugs!
Lyrebird
@jayjaybear: Oh what an enormous loss, and you also ill on top of it all. I don’t know your story, but I am wishing you all the soup and comfort and help you need.
Uncle Cosmo
Since he’s little, why don’t we just call him Micro? Micro Rubio.
Juju
@jayjaybear: I am sorry for your loss. You get through it however you can. I’m sending hugs your way.
JanieM
@jayjaybear: Sad for you, and like everyone else here, I’ll be thinking of you.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
Not to cook the damn thing, just to heat it up. Maybe also it’s because my microwave isn’t 30 yrs old. I had one from the mid/late 80s but it died after a long, long life of abuse in my machine shop. The one I bought last year is dramatically better and if you actually learn to use it doesn’t ruin food. Also I don’t know anywhere around where I live to buy actually good pizza, there’s a Little Caesars a half a block away and the next closest is the $3.99 pizza place. I’ll pass on either of those, they are, what’s the word I’m looking for, crap. Yep that’s it, crap. I have found one good frozen pizza, but over the last month I haven’t seen it in the stores any more.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@jayjaybear:
I am so sorry to hear this and you’re not being maudlin at all. Grief is something that has no rules so please do not worry about that. Please take care of yourself and reach out if you need to!
2020 continues to suck major ass…
Noskilz
@jayjaybear: So terribly sorry for your loss – hopefully things will go as well as they can for you at such an awful time.
No One You Know
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you see this. Anything we can do?
WaterGirl
@Ruckus: I am talking about reheating. I would never reheat pizza in the microwave because it ruins the texture of the crust. Just my opinion.
Sister Golden Bear
@jayjaybear: I’m so sorry for your loss.
Jim Appleton
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
In sumo, it’s “sometimes a sagari is just a sagari” …
Quantumman
@jayjaybear: I am so sorry to see this. As others have said, there are no words adequate at a time like this.
Miss Bianca
@jayjaybear:
Very late to this thread, just wanted to say how sorry I was to hear this news. And that it’s far from maudlin to express your shock and grief at the loss of a loved one. My condolences.