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“His constructional duty.” Of all sad words of tongue or pen… Stupid gonna stupid, and the GOP is busily distilling itself down to the mercury-droplet level of poisonous stupidity. Even Mike ‘Win the Morning’ Allen has taken to pointing out the obvious, now that there’s no ‘but my access’ punishment for doing so — “How Trump caved on the coronavirus relief bill”:

… How it happened: Over many days, Mnuchin and McCarthy — aided by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who golfed with Trump in West Palm Beach on Friday — indulged the president’s rants, told him there was great stuff in the bill, and gave him “wins” he could announce, even though they didn’t change the bill…

Reality check … Republican pollster Frank Luntz, who worked hard to understand Trump, told me: “It may be too late. Too late for him, too late for the economy, too late for Covid, and too late for the Georgia senators.”

One can but hope, she said piously.

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  2. 2.

    debbie

    “Constructional duty” is the perfect ending for this very sad episode in our history.

    In the better news department, they just fired a killer cop here. FINALLY.

  4. 4.

    Frankensteinbeck

    …and everyone will agree Democrats are to blame.

     

    Someone here, I think just this morning, predicted that Trump’s aides lied to him to get him to sign it, and that’s why his weird comments.  Whoever you are, take a bow.

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle:

    I didn’t know that, and was a happier person for it.

    However, I’m pretty sure that wasn’t what KT had in mind. I think he just doesn’t know it’s spelled “deus ex machina.”

  8. 8.

    jl

    The election law people have been mentioning this for a while, as one of the last double dog double down triple somersault supercalifragilisticexpialidocious slam dunks to keep Trump in office.

    I think the best approach would have been to just spring on everyone when Pence presided over the counting, then try to get Trump acting flunkies on board to try to strong arm the executive bureaucracy to look like it was going along, and be called into court with a fait accompli. But Pence wouldn’t get on board, and started planning his very very very very important foreign trip, I suppose.

  9. 9.

    Elizabelle

    @debbie:   Moar about the killer cop, please.

    I just put up a fun twitter thread by a blogger who outed a Northern Virginia sheriff’s deputy who has an … exciting Parler account.  His ass been fired.

    But the thread is so fun.   The deputy is an aspiring Country Western singer, huge gun collection at home … all manner of interesting stuff on that Parler account.  (Which deputy says has been “hacked.”  Uh huh.)

    NOTE:  commenter name and email keeps disappearing, FYI.

  10. 10.

    debbie

    I've decided to represent Mike Pence in the Gohmert vs Pence trial. I have zero experience as an attorney, but as we all know from the last 4 years, Pence puts full and complete trust in people with zero experience in their jobs. Plus, I'm doing it pro bono, as I am a big U2 fan.— Jeremy Newberger (@jeremynewberger) December 28, 2020

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @zhena gogolia:

    @dmsilev:

    @Elizabelle #11:

    Hmm, okay, well maybe. (If so, I must be the only person on the planet who never heard the alternative definition for “deuce.”) If I’m wrong about Mr. Trout, I apologise and stand sit squat corrected.

  18. 18.

    jl

    What will be interesting is when the post-inauguration lawsuits will rev up, and how much they will interfere with Biden’s first days in office, or whole first term.

    Will Trump be able to keep ahead of his creditors long enough to keep a fixed address? Will he match Aaron Burr in the rate at which he has to skip around the states? When he gets his Army of Restoration together, will they putter up the Mississippi in old and oil coal barges? That would be fitting symbolism to keep some fossil fuel money flowing, and inspire the MAGA dead enders.

  25. 25.

    debbie

    @Elizabelle:

    It just happened, so there’s not a lot. But here.

    This was the second of two cop killer incidents in four days here. This cop had a record that made the cop who killed George Floyd look almost like a Boy Scout. One hundred incident reports (though one incident could have multiple reports; someone estimated that 80 would be a more accurate number). The city had to pay out a settlement after he bashed a driver’s head against his car during a DUI stop.

    And don’t even get me started on what happened at and after this specific shooting.

  27. 27.

    Another Scott

    TheHill:

    The House on Monday passed legislation that would increase the amount of direct payments in the recently signed coronavirus relief package from $600 to $2,000.

    The bill passed in a 275-134 vote. It needed a two-thirds majority under the procedures that were used for consideration.

    The measure faces an uphill battle in the GOP-controlled Senate. Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), a member of Senate Republican leadership, said last week that he didn’t think a bill to increase the stimulus checks to $2,000 could pass in the upper chamber.

    […]

    Make Moscow Mitch block it. Give Warnock and Ossoff yet more ammunition to drink his milkshake.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  30. 30.

    Geminid

    Republican leaders are “shining” trump on until the Georgia Senate runoffs, which they are desperate to win. After that, they’ll keep their heads down and hope he doesn’t do something really stupid the last couple weeks of his term, like start a war. They are cynical and gutless.

  34. 34.

    mrmoshpotato

    IT IS TIME TO FIRE THE WRITERS AND CANCEL THE SERIES!

    This garbage would be hilarious as farce.  As a seditious real political party with actual power, not so much.

  35. 35.

    Suburban Mom

    @SiubhanDuinne: Given that he wrote specifically “dropped deuce” I am pretty sure he knew exactly what he was saying.  (Sorry). After years of driving half of a high school football team home after practice, I’m kind of a grossness expert.

  37. 37.

    randy khan

    @Another Scott:

    Make Moscow Mitch block it. Give Warnock and Ossoff yet more ammunition to drink his milkshake.

    Once again, Trump has been playing -11th dimensional chess.  I am interested, actually, that there were enough Republicans on board to cross the 2/3 threshold in the House.  I don’t know that it makes any difference in the Senate, but it’s still interesting.

  40. 40.

    mrmoshpotato

    @debbie: Haha, my brain must’ve autocorrected to “Constitutional,” and now it hurts.

    The Assclowns Who Couldn’t Traitor Straight

  42. 42.

    debbie

    Ha, this’ll eat at Trump:

    Happy to donate latest $23,000 in Art of The Deal royalties to NGO’s providing food to the hungry, battling environmental destruction and climate change, and fighting against racism. Over $200k donated since 2016.
    — Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) December 28, 2020

  44. 44.

    Elizabelle

    Did any of you guys check out the match.com youtube links I put up this morning?

    First up:  Match Made in Hell.  This one has lots of sight gags, so watch it on as big a screen as you can.

    Second:  When Satan Met 2020.  More dialogue-driven.  They are sitting on a couch.

     

    Satan finding happiness with 2020.  I liked them. I see they’ve been up since early December, but they were new to me.  Maybe not to you …   I’ll take funny Satan over nonfunny and stupid Louis Gohmert (and confederates) any day of the week.

  46. 46.

    Another Scott

    @Baud: Apparently if they couldn’t get 2/3 they had a backup plan in the works to get it via a simple majority.  I’m glad it didn’t come to that.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  49. 49.

    Anne Laurie

    @VeniceRiley: It makes Steve Deucey’s name a description.

    To be honest, for the first couple years, I thought ‘Steve Deucy’ was a vulgar pun on some Fox dude’s *real* name…

  53. 53.

    West of the Rockies

    Truly, the GOP is now Gilligan’s Island but with 6 Gilligans and a Sarah Palin Maryanne. It’s just non-stop stupid.

  56. 56.

    dmsilev

    Post:

    The House mustered enough votes Monday to reject President Trump’s veto of a $741 billion defense authorization bill, setting up the first congressional override of his presidency just days before he exits office.

  66. 66.

    dmsilev

    @hilts: It’s just filled with weirdness, like for instance the Nobel medallion that makes a cameo appearance. Guess ‘somebody’ really wants that Peace Prize.

  69. 69.

    cain

    @Baud:

    I keep thinking that this is some kind of play to remove Pence running for President. I figure Trump would get quite upset if he refused to comply with that lawsuit.

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Since we’re sharing things that amuse us, and since this is the 141st anniversary of the horrible (not at all amusing) Tay Bridge Disaster, I’d like to present for your delectation the best worst poem of all time. Here is William McGonagall’s 1880 masterpiece, “The Tay Bridge Disaster.”

    Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
    Alas! I am very sorry to say
    That ninety lives have been taken away
    On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

    ’Twas about seven o’clock at night,
    And the wind it blew with all its might,
    And the rain came pouring down,
    And the dark clouds seem’d to frown,
    And the Demon of the air seem’d to say-
    “I’ll blow down the Bridge of Tay.”

    When the train left Edinburgh
    The passengers’ hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
    But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
    Which made their hearts for to quail,
    And many of the passengers with fear did say-
    “I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay.”

    But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
    Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
    And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
    On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

    So the train sped on with all its might,
    And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
    And the passengers’ hearts felt light,
    Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
    With their friends at home they lov’d most dear,
    And wish them all a happy New Year.

    So the train mov’d slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
    Until it was about midway,
    Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
    And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
    The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
    Because ninety lives had been taken away,
    On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

    As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
    The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
    And the cry rang out all o’er the town,
    Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
    And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
    Which fill’d all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
    And made them for to turn pale,
    Because none of the passengers were sav’d to tell the tale
    How the disaster happen’d on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
    Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

    It must have been an awful sight,
    To witness in the dusky moonlight,
    While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
    Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
    Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
    I must now conclude my lay
    By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
    That your central girders would not have given way,
    At least many sensible men do say,
    Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
    At least many sensible men confesses,
    For the stronger we our houses do build,
    The less chance we have of being killed.

    McGonagall wrote volumes and volumes of this kind of stuff. No, he didn’t mean to be funny, any more than Jon McNaughton does in his hideous paintings. (They both make me ashamed to share Scottish ancestry with them.)

  71. 71.

    cain

    @dmsilev:

    I’m curious to know what his reaction is going to be.. Will he simply deny it ever happened at all and proceed to still bully them as if they had never passed it ?? Or will he suddenly take credit for it and congratulate himself on a well managed “deal”?

  73. 73.

    lamh36

    The Dems in the house passed the bill to increase the COVID relief payments to $2000 like Chump claimed he wanted. Now it goes to the Senate and guess what…watch the strategy. McConnell will let Perue and Loeffler vote YES to benefit them in the GA runoff, cause he already knows he has enough NO votes to tank the bill. Who wants to bet, that it’s gonna be “Pelosi’s fault” or “neither side cares” to some folks.

  74. 74.

    debbie

    This is sure not to end well.

    A video President Trump tweeted today features the Nobel Peace Prize superimposed over photographs of him with the prime minister of Israel, and the foreign ministers of Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates.

    A REMINDER: The president has not been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. pic.twitter.com/nJHZbgy5I9
    — David Gura (@davidgura) December 28, 2020

    The Nobel Committee doesn’t permit unauthorized use of its medal:

    This may be of interest to The Nobel Foundation. https://t.co/cQUQPn3cOd pic.twitter.com/O22iJ41L3j
    — David Gura (@davidgura) December 28, 2020

  76. 76.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    all due respect to Mr Kander, it won’t take fifteen months for trump to become a thing that just kinda happened

  80. 80.

    Yutsano

    @hilts:  Ah yes. Using music from a gay composer that many Americans will associate with beef commercials from the 80s. Heckuva job there!

    I actually watched the stupid thing. It really is a “why the fuck would you release this now?” sort of dog headtilt.

  86. 86.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @lamh36:

    Scott Lemieux @LemieuxLGM 40m
    It won’t be easy to blame McConnell’s refusal to bring this to a vote on House Dems, but I’m confident large segments of this website can pull it off

  91. 91.

    waratah

    @randy khan:  Trump made sure his base knew he asked for that amount. I live in a blue collar working neighborhood in a red state I know they have heard about this. I was surprised that Republicans are fighting it.

  93. 93.

    dmsilev

    He promised to bring dealmaking savvy to the nation’s capital, yet President Trump is poised to end his term with back-to-back embarrassments — caving to sign a coronavirus relief compromise he’d called “a disgrace” and facing the likelihood that Congress will override his veto of an annual military operations bill.

    In a bipartisan vote on Monday evening, the House took the first step in rebuffing the president’s veto of the defense bill, which had passed overwhelmingly in both chambers earlier this month. The override vote, which required a two-thirds margin, was 322-87.

    (LA Times)

  94. 94.

    jl

    @Baud: I haven’t read about the Trumpsters lining up any bogus alternative slates.

    Anyone know if any state GOPs have appointed alternative slates? Or is that on the to-do list over the next week?

     

    Edit: if Baud XXXX! could get enough alternative slates appointed, pass them off to the GOP as Trumpster EC votesm, then a miracle is nigh. Wammo boffo! Victory from the ashes! Don’t let victory slip through your fingers again.

  95. 95.

    danielx

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    And the technology already exists, per Driftglass.

    They marched and they cheered and sang lots of brave tunes,
    About how great Beck was, and how Lefties were Loons.
    For one thing, of course, had remained just the same
    The Left and their schemes were always to blame.
    Because there is no need to be careful or watch what you say                                             When your past is as squashy as modeling clay.

  103. 103.

    mrmoshpotato

    @debbie:

    The Nobel Committee doesn’t permit unauthorized use of its medal: 

    Wait.  Dump is going to get a beatdown from the Nobel Committee?

  104. 104.

    debbie

    @dmsilev:

    I like that the face is orange and there’s a hint of orange in the hair. But you know Trump would never carry a pistol like that.

  105. 105.

    Kent

    @randy khan: Once again, Trump has been playing -11th dimensional chess. I am interested, actually, that there were enough Republicans on board to cross the 2/3 threshold in the House. I don’t know that it makes any difference in the Senate, but it’s still interesting.

    Why would the GOP-ers in the House not vote for it? They are just following Trump’s orders. Let McConnell and the Senate take the heat for blocking it. Seems like a no-brainer if you are a House GOPer.

  108. 108.

    dmsilev

    @debbie: We could send him to the Moon without too much trouble.

    Just don’t ask about the ‘soft landing’ or ‘safe return’ parts.

  112. 112.

    jl

    @dmsilev: Trump likes the biggest and most spectacular, the best, the classiest, arrivals. He’s always been big on most terrific disasters.

  114. 114.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @hilts:

    You know what, I saw that ad earlier today and figured it was from early in the campaign and I had simply not seen it before. Had no idea until some of the commentary that he just released it today, eight weeks after the election. Delusional.

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @geg6:

    Right, thanks. Sufficient number of people on this thread have set me right, and I did apologise for getting it wrong. Somehow I’ve never come across that piece of slang, and as I told (I think) Elizabelle, I was happier in my time of innocence.

  121. 121.

    NotMax

    As it’s open thread –

    FYI, first season of the British series Flack is coming to Prime on January 22nd (Amazon picked it up to produce a third season after it was canceled).

    Personally have problems with its ululating undertow of unpleasantry but will note that those who like the show really like it. While other folks wax lyrical about Anna Paquin in the lead, for this codger’s (limited) money it’s Sophie Okonedo being part of the cast which made me check it out in the first place, having never been less than strongly impressed with her camera charisma in other productions.

  125. 125.

    hilts

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Delusional.

    That’s Trump’s middle name and once the election results are made official on January 6, he will redefine insanity.  Maybe, he’ll try to fire Pence or have him arrested.

  128. 128.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @jnfr:

    I assume that overall it was made as another ego boost for him.

    Oh yeah, the boat parades are dead give away. I wonder how many of those videos he has on his phone. And the fact that he thinks that flag-hugging is something people want to see

  134. 134.

    billcinsd

    @jl:

    I haven’t read about the Trumpsters lining up any bogus alternative slates.

    Anyone know if any state GOPs have appointed alternative slates? Or is that on the to-do list over the next week?

    The Republican portions of the legislatures of Michigan, Georgia, Arizona and Michigan sent alternative votes at the EC voting deadline

  136. 136.

    jl

    Jan 6 is Trump’s Alamo. All GOP elected officials must support him on Jan 6 or they are toast.

    “…. You will NOT be re-elected…. ”

    https://twitter.com/jamespmanley/status/1343715864810500096

    Technically, that omits Loeffler, but a nuance that will escape MAGA, probably Trump as well.

    The GA election will probably be very close, so just a few resentful, disillusioned and resentful Trumpsters sitting it out, and a just a few more charged up Dem voters can make all the difference.

  138. 138.

    Another Scott

    If McConnell won’t bring $2000 payments to the floor, Bernie will object to the defense bill.

    No payments for people — no New Year’s Eve break for Senators https://t.co/v0isqi9jEI

    — Ari Rabin-Havt (@AriRabinHavt) December 28, 2020

    Interesting! – if it actually happens that way.

    (via LOLGOP)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  140. 140.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @debbie:

    Saw that on the news. The POS killed that guy in his own garage and they declined to render the victim aid ?

  143. 143.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud: I think it’s very important to frame Republican malfeasance as a failure for Nancy Pelosi

    (Medhi Hassan, arguably the least clownish clown in the clown car known as The Intercept, so… still a clown)

  148. 148.

    raven

    Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airman

     

    Truckin and Fuckin

     
    Everybody’s dancin’ and truckin’
    Everybody’s swingin’ and fuckin
    Truckin’ (truckin’) fuckin’ (fuckin’) everybody’s doin’ it now

  149. 149.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @billcinsd: I remember at least one photo of the “alternate electors” trying to get inside the venue where the vote was being certified, but security wouldn’t let them in. “The electors are already here.”

  150. 150.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud: to me, the answer to the “new leadership” troll should be: Who and what would they have done differently?

    I turned it off when he brought Reich on. I assume Sam Seder and Michael Moore are waiting in the wings

  151. 151.

    Another Scott

    @Baud: I guess his plan is to object to the process before the actual override vote. Or something. TheHill:

    A spokesman for Sanders confirmed that he will object to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) setting up a vote on the veto override of the defense bill until a proposal to increase the amount of the direct payments to $2,000 is also voted on.

    Sanders can’t prevent the Senate from ultimately voting on whether or not to override Trump’s veto of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The bill passed the Senate initially this month in a 84-13 vote, with Sanders voting “no” at the time.

    But McConnell is likely to have to move to break a rare filibuster of the veto override effort, forcing it to overcome a 60-vote procedural hurdle and delaying a final vote on Trump’s veto message for days until later this week.

    In addition to Sanders, Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) said he would similarly slow down the NDAA in an effort to get a vote on increasing the amount of direct assistance provided as part of the $2.3 trillion package.

    “I will be joining @BernieSanders in blocking the defense bill until we get a vote on $2000 in direct cash relief. That relief passed in the House today with 44 Republicans voting for it. Senate Republicans must do the same and get the American people the help they need,” he tweeted.

    Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) is expected to try to clear the House-passed bill increasing the amount of direct assistance through the Senate on Tuesday. But because it will only take one senator to block his request, he’ll expected to fall short.

    It’s good to see them fighting for this. Make Moscow Mitch show his yellow underbelly and stacked deck.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  153. 153.

    Luciamia

    Truly Pence seems like the last person you’d want to draft into this scheme. He looks like he’d shit his pants at the very thought of it.

  155. 155.

    WaterGirl

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s hard when that happens because when they are replying, they don’t know that 18 people have already answered it.

    If I’m around, I am always willing to edit the original comment to indicate that the question has already been answered.  (on request)

    But if we all read all the comments before replying, no one would ever comment!  :-)

  157. 157.

    WaterGirl

    At this point, wouldn’t it HELP the Republicans in Georgia if there is a vote for the 2,000?  Loeffler and Perdue can’t get on Trump’s bad side by voting yes, because Trump is for this.  People in Georgia also surely want the 2,000.

    So aren’t we hurting our chances in Georgia by forcing a vote on the 2k?

    I know everyone desperately needs assistance.  But if we can win the senate, they can get the extra assistance right away after Jan 20, I would think.  I don’t understand the Bernie/Markey strategy here.

  160. 160.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: There are a multitude of ways that it could/will fail in the Senate: Johnson will object yet again.  Moscow Mitch doesn’t want it and he controls the clock.  The 116th Congress ends one second before noon on Sunday January 3 – less than 6 days from now.  He and a bunch of other senators want to go home doing the least work possible.  Who knows, he may try to spin things and say that Bernie and other Democrats are tying his hands with their cloture demands and he can’t bring the $2000 bill to the floor in time, and by the way, the NDAA over-ride failed because those Democrats Hate the Troops™.

    Early voting is going on and has been since December 14.  If Moscow Mitch were worried about COVID relief affecting the GA senate races, wouldn’t he have done something earlier?

    My $0.02. We’ll see.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  162. 162.

    WaterGirl

    @Another Scott: What I don’t want to happen is:

    1. Loeffler & Perdue vote YES so they get credit for that, and
    2. That plays against our argument that with a Republican senate, nothing will get done, so don’t vote for divided government
    3. The vote fails anyway and people get nothing.
    4. and Loeffler and Perdue chances go up, and ours go down.
  163. 163.

    WaterGirl

    @moonbat:  That is true.  But us getting the senate is everything, and if we can get the senate, we can do so many things that will make a differences with the pandemic, climate change, everything else.

    If we don’t win the senate, I don’t think there’s any more aid for disaster relief.

    The thing is, I don’t think it passes the senate, so our best chance for disaster relief in 2021 is to win both seats in Georgia.

  164. 164.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WaterGirl:

    Oh, no worries. I suspect a lot of people read the threads the way I do: when a new thread appears, read the OT, then the comments in order. HOWEVER, if you see something commentable, by all means comment without bothering to see if anyone else has commented earlier, better, more concisely, and more wittily.

    Once you’ve gone through the first batch of comments, close the window and wander off for a while. Check Wonkette, see if Charlie Pierce has posted anything yet, take a shower, make a tuna salad.

    Upon returning to BJ, check out all the new threads, comment or not, and then — this is key — return to the original BJ post, hit the down arrow, and start reading comments, and commenting on them, from the bottom up. Makes for hours of confused and chaotic fun, every time!

  165. 165.

    WaterGirl

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s all part of the charm of the BJ experience. ;-)

    But I do recall an instance recently-ish where everyone jumped on a person, who by comment 5 or 7 or 10 acknowledged their mistake/bad wording/whatever and apologized, and got jumped on another 15 times, and that can be overwhelming – even if you logically know that people aren’t ganging up on you.

  166. 166.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: I’m sure Moscow Mitch is trying to figure out a way to “win”.

    Thread:

    Richard M. Nixon
    @dick_nixon

    Those who get the column know we’ve written several times of our respect for McConnell politically but have noted lately, say the past year, he has betrayed nervousness.

    To my mind, with Georgia being the stakes, the thing to do is call the vote and outflank them. If the line is, “Republicans won’t pay you,” call their bluff and claim victory. If it passes it was your brave support of the President, if it fails, you tried.

    I’m guessing McConnell will write his own bill tying the $2000 to austerity measures.

    That last bit sounds like something he would try. But it also sounds like too much work. Why wouldn’t he just let it sit in the pile on his desk with all the other bills the House has sent over??

    tl;dr – Georgia is probably already baked except for turnout – the GOP has said NO since May 15. This $2000 bill is just another opportunity for Moscow Mitch to say “NO”. Make them pay for that.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Another Scott

    ICYMI, warning Politico:

    Ossoff led the pack in fundraising, raking in $106.8 million from Oct. 15 through Dec. 16. He spent $93.5 million in that same time period. (Here’s Ossoff’s filing.) Warnock, who is running in the special election, followed him at $103.4 million and spent $86.1 million (Warnock’s filing). The Republicans were massively outraised by their Democratic challengers: Sen. David Perdue brought in $68.1 million, spending $57.9 million (Perdue’s filing) and appointed Sen. Kelly Loeffler raised $64 million, with almost none of that coming from self-funding, with $48.6 million in expenditures (Loeffler’s filing, which was submitted on Wednesday).

    The story notes that “independent” fundraising and spending won’t have to report until after the election. And we know that Moscow Mitch is dumping a lot of money in the race, so who knows which team is really ahead in the money race. But it’s good to know that the good guys have a lot of money to get their message and their voters out.

    Forward!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Bill Arnold

    @moonbat:
    As WaterGirl says, the control of the Senate is a very big deal, with downstream consequences e.g. how catastrophic global heating gets (billions of human lives at stake) and more locally, the Democratic domestic political agendas. (plural because progressive agendas are more in possible play if the Democrats win control of the Senate.)
    So it’s a legitimate tactical question. It’s in the Senates hands (and then DJT’s little hands) now though. As you say, the $2000 would shift a lot of people from immanent destitution to perhaps not.  But the Rs were really opposed to it prior to being for it because DJT.

  173. 173.

    Another Scott

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  I never know what to make of “memos” like that.  We’ve all gotten similar emails for decades – there’s always a crisis.  Maybe…

    I’m just some internet rando, but come on.  $50M a month x 2 isn’t enough in Georgia?  Really?  If so, make the case, don’t just say the other guys have more.  (The plutocrats will always have more.)

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  174. 174.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Another Scott: Rick Wilson (Lincoln Project is involved on the ground) said it’s about lowering expectations for the election, but he also said it’s not over yet

  175. 175.

    Another Scott

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Thanks.

    We should remember that the whole point of runoff elections in the south was to prevent Blacks from winning elections.  So, it’s an uphill fight.

    But, Biden wasn’t expected to win either so we have to keep fighting.  It’s not hopeless.  I’ll probably send some more cash to the troika in the morning (Abrams, Warnock, and Ossoff).

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  178. 178.

    J R in WV

    @WaterGirl: 

    Gosh, if I worried about a mere dozen people telling me how I am wrong, in 8 different ways, I wouldn’t have my BJ career to keep me busy!

    Last post?
    ;-)

  180. 180.

    WaterGirl

    @Another Scott: Yeah, they didn’t mention the $100 million that came in against Warnock from several donors at $15 million each.

    They need to show the whole picture, otherwise this is just intended to discourage additional donating.  Warnock is down $54 million, i believe, compared to what the Rs pulled in for Loeffler.

  182. 182.

    J R in WV

    The word Deuce is used in many slang ways, including the fecal expression dealt with above.

    MA Deuce is a matched pair of .50 caliber Browning Machine Guns mounted so that both are aimed at the same spot, a brutal near-cannon of military destruction.

    A Little Deuce Coupe was a Ford 1932 coupe favored by people building hot rods, still well known among speed freaks and Beach Boys fans.

    In cards, the two card is often called a deuce, Aces over Deuces is a full house of ones (Aces) and twos (deuces).

    ETA: Last post, this time? (couldn’t resist either!)      ;~)

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