Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

No Justins, No Peace

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

After roe, women are no longer free.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

“I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

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Were I a Black Man in America Right Now

I would be fucking seething. Just fucking livid.

After watching years of peaceful protestors being beaten with batons, shoved, pushed, tazed, teargassed, pepper sprayed, hit by cruisers, run over by horses, punched, kicked, and shot for having the AUDACITY to say “Please stop shooting us,” to watch the Cletus brigade storm the Capitol with guns and flags and IED’s and not a fucking hint of even the mildest pepper spray deployed, I would be LOSING MY SHIT. And they don’t even have a righteous cause- they’re there because their candidate got rejected by an overwhelming majority.

This is white supremacy. This is systemic racism. This is white privilege. And if you can not see that, you just don’t want to.

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  5. 5.

    randy khan

    That is such a chilling image.

    I’ve now seen video of the Capitol police removing a barricade to let people into the building.  Whoever made the decision to let that happen needs to be fired immediately.

  6. 6.

    Chyron HR

    “Some people think the people who voted for Trump are racists and sexists and homophobes and deplorable folks. I don’t agree, because I’ve been there.” – Sen. Bernard Sanders (I-VT)

  7. 7.

    Lt. Condition

    Carrying a traitor’s flag in an occupation of the Capitol ought to be prosecuted as treason. Throw these fuckers into an oubliette.

  8. 8.

    The Moar You Know

    If I were a black man in America today, I’d have my entire family in the basement and a loaded shotgun in my hands.  And I would be out of my fucking mind with fear.  I’d be angry later.

  12. 12.

    PJ

    And they don’t even have a righteous cause

    They are there precisely because they don’t have a righteous cause.  They stormed Congress because the only way they can win is through cheating and violence, because their ideas and policies are indecent and unpopular.  Like their idol, they are just losers and bullies, and too many Americans – including evidently many Capitol Police today – agree with and admire them.

  13. 13.

    bluefoot

    As a POC, I had been thinking there was good chance of being shot while protesting or just going about my business if Trump had been re-elected.  (As a short, middle aged brown woman, I’ve already seen the business end of a gun wielded by a cop in oh-so-liberal MA while just going about my business in broad fucking daylight.)  I did not think that I would be witnessing what is happening today and thinking to myself that I need to finish updating my will since it looks like this shit is going to go on.

  15. 15.

    Luthiengineer

    I’m a privileged white male and I’m absolutely fucking livid with these people. I have a black friend in the DC National Guard and they’re calling him out again tonight. I cannot IMAGINE what it’s like for him, he was at the Lafayette Square incident and I’m just amazed that he can stay professional and calm and go out there again.

  16. 16.

    jonas

    Someone on twitter had a picture of some idiot raving in the Speaker’s dais with the comment: “that this guy even is alive to stand there is all you need to know about white privilege.”

  18. 18.

    Elizabelle

    Trump to rioters:  “We love you.  We love you.”

    He urged them to go home only to protect themselves and law enforcement.

    Was listening to NPR in the car when the Trump video arrived, and they cut it off once they realized it was more lies about his stolen election.

    None of the asshats at NPR had much of anything to say about Trump’s remarks, either.  (I was in and out of the car; could have missed it if they did.)

  19. 19.

    CaseyL

    I’m with ya, Cole.

    I tried for years to balance what was good vs. bad about cops.  That was an early casualty of seeing police brutality against black protestors.

    Today’s events just put a sprig of parsley behind the pig’s ear.

    They’re all bad until proven otherwise.

  22. 22.

    kindness

    The South done Rose again and it’s gonna take 20 flushes to get them back down the drain.

  23. 23.

    Patricia Kayden

    Ya think?

    This is an emergency situation and we are taking appropriate emergency measures, including removing President Trump's video. We removed it because on balance we believe it contributes to rather than diminishes the risk of ongoing violence.— Guy Rosen (@guyro) January 6, 2021

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    Has cable played Trump’s remarks much?

    He retains the ability to shock me.

    I missed Pres-Elect Biden’s remarks.

  28. 28.

    Randolf Hurts

    As a longtime lurker who isn’t currently drunk because of this insane reality, I sincerely applaud your sobriety right now.

  33. 33.

    Woodrow/asim

    @The Moar You Know: No Black Man I know/read today — including myself — is feeling that level of fear.

    Or rage, for that matter.

    That’s because we already know all this, by and large. BLM was all about this.

    Now, bluntly, my White friends are terrified, also by and large. But for Black folx? This kind of stunt — and how the cops have responded — is literally backed into our calculations on life, in America. That rage is part and parcel of our everyday, y’all.

    We’re not hiding, ’cause too many of us know it just makes it easier for the Slave Patrols, or the Klanners, or the Cops, to come find your Black ass and shoot it, or throw it in jail.

    So we just shake our heads, work to vote the fuckers out like we just did in GA, and otherwise keep living our lives. We work to manage our emotions — not always well — because we know what happens when we set it off, unlike our White opposition.

    I recommend a lot of you work to do similar. Living in fear ain’t no way to go.

  40. 40.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Woodrow/asim: I’m a Black woman and truth be told, I am shook. My fear is that these thugs will come back and pull this stunt again and kill a Congress person. The fact that cops treated them with kid gloves may just embolden them,

  43. 43.

    Spanky

    @Woodrow/asim:

    Living in fear ain’t no way to go.

    Amen. But the voting is over. Having my suspicions about the police blatantly confirmed is rage-inducing, and it’s not going to stop unless a large enough bloc of people take action.

    I don’t know what that action is, to remake the very concept of what police are for.

  45. 45.

    Patricia Kayden

    This authoritarian menace will not succeed in his attempts to overthrow our democratically elected government. I am praying for the safety and security of the public servants who are dedicated to making this country a “more perfect union.”— James E. Clyburn (@WhipClyburn) January 6, 2021

  46. 46.

    germy

    These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021

    Pathetic.

  49. 49.

    SoupCatcher

    How long before we know if any members of Congress or their staff were physically harmed?

  52. 52.

    Juliet

    John you are more eloquent and use more words than I do. I have been stuck at saying you fuckers all day.

  55. 55.

    Villago Delenda Est

    I’m a white man in America, and I’m fuckin’ livid.  I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.  These are those enemies right now, and they’re getting away with it because of the color of their skin.

  57. 57.

    John S.

    If a curfew is in effect, why the fuck are all these people still on the streets and not being arrested????

  60. 60.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @MattF: Thiessen can go fuck one of Devin Nunes’ cows.  Another reactionary crybaby heard from.  Someone change his motherfuckin’ diapers.

  61. 61.

    JPL

    Apparently there are 300 plus reps and aides hunkered together at a non disclosed location.   Some junior members, pretty sure that means Marjorie Greene, refuse to wear a mask.   Fine if some don’t want to wear a mask, put them out in front of the Capitol.

  62. 62.

    Tazj

    @JPL: She deleted a Tweet that called the rioters patriots.I assume before they stormed the Capitol building but I may be giving her too much credit.

  64. 64.

    Leto

    Per WaPo:

    05:32 PM: Trump supporter says he entered Senate chamber, took picture with Mike Pence’s Bible

    Rick Crosby, a 25-year-old from Connecticut, was in an early wave of rioters that breached the Capitol, entering from the west.

    Crosby said he was among about 20 people who made it into the Senate chamber, where another rioter with a bullhorn led them in a prayer. They then sought to memorialize the moment.
    “We took a picture with Mike Pence’s Bible and put it back on the desk,” he said. After that, he said, they left at the direction of the police.

    “It felt very historic,” Crosby said. “Regardless of how this turns out, I think this is going to be a moment that goes down in the history books.”

    As he spoke, public officials and commentators from across the political spectrum were condemning the rioters’ actions, using terms such as “insurrection” and “domestic terrorism.”

    But Crosby rejected the idea that he and others were doing anything wrong. On the contrary, he said, they were just doing what the president asked of them.

    “I think probably President Trump said it best,” he said, citing Trump’s comments to some of his violent supporters in a presidential debate. “He said, ‘Stand back and stand by.’ That’s what we’re doing.”

    And now Trumpov is tweeting further shit, inciting/riling up the insurrectionists even more. When the fuck does Twitter take down his account. Holy fuck.

  66. 66.

    Roger Moore

    @SoupCatcher:

    I’m reasonably confident we would have heard by now if any member of Congress had been seriously hurt.  Some of them were probably scraped and bumped but not enough to be worth reporting.

  68. 68.

    Bruuuuce

    Better allocate a LOT of money for the special prosecutor that Merrick Garland will appoint on Day 1 to look into this and related incidents. It’s going to take a small army to sort it all out, then prosecute all these momzers (ESPECIALLY the ones in office)

  69. 69.

    West of the Rockies

    Thousands of screaming, unmasked morons in tight quarters huffing and hollering in each other’s faces… during a C19 spike.  Well done, you racist, privileged pigs.*

    *No offense to pigs intended.

  70. 70.

    bluefoot

    @Frank Wilhoit:  You’d think people would have learned in middle school: you have to stand up to, and sometimes thump the hell out of, bullies to get them to stop.  Otherwise they are just emboldened.

  71. 71.

    Archon

    Oh yeah I’m seething.

    If every single person he unlawfully broke into the capitol building is charged with a felony I’ll feel better about this.

  74. 74.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    Heck, I’m a white female and I’m seething. I had  CSPAN on earlier and couldn’t tell if they are arresting these vandals or just shooing them gently out the door. WTF! Those are not peaceful protesters exercising their rights. They need to be arrested, jailed, prosecuted and given the maximum sentence to be served in the most unpleasant conditions available. Otherwise they’ll come back next time, worse.

  75. 75.

    Haroldo

    Trump is again tweeting that the seditionists are great people and are justified in their actions.

  76. 76.

    Frank Wilhoit

    @KSinMA: Yeah, BTW, this.  It is not permissible to exalt any one class of victims above other classes of victims.  Reagan painted a target on my back too, but that doesn’t make me special.  The target groups are always totally fungible.  Until you get that, nothing that you see or hear will make any sense.

  79. 79.

    Patricia Kayden

    The United States had 45 transitions of power over our 244-year history that went about peacefully. It's been a calling-card of our democracy, demonstrating the stability and resiliance of our institutions. Today, Donald Trump and his enablers ended that.— Eric Koch (@EricDKoch) January 6, 2021

  80. 80.

    Mike in NC

    It was nauseating to see all the MAGAts with their Tea Party flags and fucking Trump hats and Confederate bullshit. So what does Fat Bastard have planned for an encore?

  81. 81.

    Royston Vasey

    Watching this from New Zealand. never thought I would ever see this from the US. Collectively, we shake our heads at a once-great country. Shining City On A Hill no more.

  83. 83.

    natem

    Seeing GOP reps asking all of us to calm down and thinking of these rioters feelings has me remembering the number two guy in the House in 2005, Tom Delay, telling us how Democrats saw the savagery of 9/11 and wanted to coddle the terrorists.

  84. 84.

    Leto

    @Villago Delenda Est: this. this right here. The past 10 years BJ has helped expand my overall view into systemic racism and what POC go through in every day life. I know what this country is, and I’m still so fucking livid. It’s 156 years past time to fucking destroy these fucks. Hammer and fucking tongs. Rage. Just non-stop rage.

  86. 86.

    NotMax

    @cliosfanboy

    Jumping to the conclusion she was a member of the mob is premature. May have been a staffer. Or a tour guide. Or a janitor. Or a cafeteria worker.

  93. 93.

    MCA1

    @germy: Impeach him again, tonight, before he can pardon these domestic terrorists.

    I hope Pelosi and Schumer are in communication somehow with Romney right now to see if he can whip together enough Republicans who may have decided at long last to be patriots.  He would only need 40% of them.  The pressure on GOP Senators to do the right thing will never be higher, although I’m sure I’m delusional to think that outside of Sasse and a couple others there are enough of them who’ve finally noticed the tiger they’ve been riding the last 4 years is now clawing out their eyes.

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    @MattF:

    That fucking fucker. My local paper runs Thiessen, ironically I can only hope, and the last column was the ten best things Trump did in 2020. Rusty chainsaw.

  96. 96.

    Leto

    Joy Reid talking right now how white Americans aren’t afraid of the cops. And it showed today. They’re not afraid because white Americans feel they own the cops, and the cops repay that. Contrasting that to how BLM protests are handled.

    No lies told.

  99. 99.

    piratedan

    in positing that the Capitol Police were rather “sedate” in their response to what was going down, I have to now wonder if they were told to do so… considering we have roughly 140 GOP members of Congress and 12 GOP Senators calling into question the legality of the election itself, would we be shocked/surprised/disgusted to find out that they were told to not do anything special for the occasion and to expect people protesting the event to be around and allow them to “express their concerns”….  Not saying that there couldn’t have been very sympathetic characters within their ranks (as noted by the selfies), just wondering if there was word passed down by certain influential members… to lets see what happens…

  100. 100.

    Leto

    Now Joy talking about how Josh Hawley and Cruz are fundraising off this, and why the fuck aren’t they being forced to resign; traitorous scum. Helping to incite this. Now calling out Yurtle and Fox News. She’s naming all the names.

  109. 109.

    Darkrose

    Sitting here with my wife, watching MSNBC, and just heard Joy Reid say that had this been a BLM protest, people would be shackled, arrested, and dead. That should make me angry–and I am angry–but I’m also completely unsurprised, and so very, very, tired. None of this had to happen.

  112. 112.

    randy khan

    Senator Manchin:

    “These thugs aren’t running us off.”

    I’m liking him more and more.

  113. 113.

    Gin & Tonic

    @bluefoot: I often think about Ken McElroy and his neighbors in Skidmore, MO. Terrorized them for years until one day, in broad daylight on Main St, he was shot dead.

    Oddly, nobody saw a thing.

  114. 114.

    trollhattan

    @Eunicecycle:

    It’s illegal in Germany to display Nazi symbols and the Confederate flag is used as a substitute by German neonazis. I’m watching to see if they start displaying Trump flags, too.

  116. 116.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Punchy: There’s no end of Trump supporters claiming this was secretly Antifa and why are you all sheeeeeeeep?

    They’re working hard on blame shifting. And some of them believe it.

  117. 117.

    jl

    Omar should be able to  get the bill of impeachment written up in time for the Senate to get the trial over by tonight and kick Trump out. McConnell should be talking with House to get that done, or his name goes down in even more infamy than it does already.

    I’ve heard talk that some in Congress are asking for a quick 25th amendment procedure. OK with me, need to two track this and get the criminal president out asap.

  118. 118.

    piratedan

    @Frankensteinbeck: don’t disagree, but remember, these guys have NEVER thought that any of this shit could ever apply to them.  You know, maybe they would have been happy with just a noisy demonstration to prove their point and roll on….

    They’ve been riding the tiger for so long I find it easy to believe that they could have felt that they were “untouchable” because they’re in the GOP.

  119. 119.

    Peale

    On a bummer tangent, I was hoping that if things were to calm down enough, Kay might come back to the comments section. But no. Not only do these fuckwits have to ruin my birthday, and prevent me from savoring the fact that the Democrats showed up in Georgia yesterday, they’ve probably put off the day where its calm enough for Kay to join us again.

  121. 121.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @lamh36: Joy Reid is the only person on television who has ever represented my political worldview. I feel seen.

  122. 122.

    Ruckus

    @Woodrow/asim:

    Thank You for saying this. I am so very sorry that it is so very true.

    My opinion is that this is not a few white boys being white boys. They are in too many places at the same time and the ones doing this shit are not smart enough to accomplish this much coordination. There is a ring leader. S. Miller comes to mind.

  124. 124.

    Cacti

    That fellow who’s celebrating his heritage, not hate, looks like he has a great deal of economic anxiety.

    He needs a hug, most likely.

     

    -The librul media

  125. 125.

    Benw

    Joy Reid was fucking awesome. Now Gallego’s not pulling any punches either. I feel so much better hearing some truth spoken when earlier today the networks bent themselves into knots to not talk about white privilege and the abject failure of the cops.

  126. 126.

    John S.

    Seriously, why the fuck are these traitors still on the streets? What the fuck are the police doing?

  127. 127.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @piratedan:

    You know, maybe they would have been happy with just a noisy demonstration to prove their point and roll on….

    And that is very possible.  On some level, they clearly were aiming for exactly that.  Let Trump bring on a huge rally so they can posture about how much they hate libtards.  But if anyone in congress was involved in the capitol police’s failures, it was not to the extent that they thought rioters would be allowed into the building.

  130. 130.

    Leto

    @lamh36: So much this. 7pm must watch tv.

     

    Congressman Ruben Gallego (AZ) laying out the truth bombs too. I really like him. Plain spoken Marine.

  132. 132.

    Calouste

    @jl: Someone needs to whisper in Pence’s ear that invoking the 25th and a peaceful transition will get him a glowing entry in future history books. But don’t mention that VPs don’t get Secret Service protection for life.

  133. 133.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Frankensteinbeck: That doesn’t seem to be the take of one of the insurrectionists interviewed. She told television reporters she was teargassed when she got one foot inside the Capitol. She said they were storming the Capitol and that it was a revolution. That’s pretty far removed from a noisy demonstration.

  134. 134.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Ruckus:

    They are in too many places at the same time and the ones doing this shit are not smart enough to accomplish this much coordination.

    They don’t need coordination.  This was their last chance.  I suspect a lot of them right now think they succeeded and will be damned shocked when congress certifies Biden’s win elsewhere.  But they have an ongoing mythology that left two options, ‘congress is stopped from certifying on the 6th’ and ‘Trump declares martial law’, and I don’t think many believed the latter.  They have been watching every other of what they were sure were their safety nets failed.  Today, specifically, and this meeting by congress, have been dominating their thoughts and anger and desperation.  Then Trump told them to come to DC so he could tell them exactly all this, that this was it, their last chance to overturn the election.  There are probably small groups who had their own individual plans, but overall?  Nothing more than I described is needed.

    EDIT – @Just Some Fuckhead:

    That doesn’t seem to be the take of one of the insurrectionists interviewed.

    We must be miscommunicating.  I am describing what the Republicans in congress who have been nodding and winking would be willing to encourage and probably expected would be the result of Trump’s rally.  Not what the rioters think.

  136. 136.

    randy khan

    @Baud:

    As they should be.  They should be making it clear that they won’t be intimidated.  (And I do take grim amusement in how the Republicans seem to be the ones who are shaken by this, but I’m pretty sure they didn’t think the panthers would eat their faces.)

  138. 138.

    Renie

    There’s video of law enforcement taking selfies with the insurrectionists inside the Capitol.   Couple this with the soft treatment and lack of arrests by law enforcement shows the need for an investigation.  Compared to how the feds treated people in Portland and how protestors were treated this summer when trump walked to St. John’s is unbelievable.  As I write this these trumpers are still walking around Wash DC even though there’s a 12 hour curfew in place.

  141. 141.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @randy khan: We’ll see. They just let her and the rest of them walk away or mill around. I’m pessimistic there will be any accountability.

  144. 144.

    Kent

    Maddow reporting on NBC right now that Pelosi plans to reconvene tonight and finish.  She is reading a Pelosi statement that is very eloquent.

    Text of Pelosi’s just released statement:  https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/1621-0

    Dear Colleague to All Members on Continuation of the Joint Session of Congress

    JANUARY 6, 2021

    PRESS RELEASE

    Dear Colleague,

    Today, a shameful assault was made on our democracy.  It was anointed at the highest level of government.  It cannot, however, deter us from our responsibility to validate the election of Joe Biden.

    To that end, in consultation with Leader Hoyer and Whip Clyburn and after calls to the Pentagon, the Justice Department and the Vice President, we have decided we should proceed tonight at the Capitol once it is cleared for use.  Leader Hoyer will be sending out more guidance later today.

    We always knew this responsibility would take us into the night. The night may still be long but we are hopeful for a shorter agenda, but our purpose will be accomplished.

    We also knew that we would be a part of history in a positive way, today, despite ill-founded objections to the Electoral College vote.  We now will be part of history, as such a shameful picture of our country was put out to the world, instigated at the highest level.

    Today, January 6 – the Feast of Epiphany – let us pray that this instigation to violence will provide an epiphany for our country to heal.

    Members and staff should remain on the Capitol complex until they are notified by the United States Capitol Police.

    I look forward to seeing you later this evening, during this time of great sadness.

    Nancy

  145. 145.

    Suzanne

    I am not a black man, but I am absolutely enraged. The Capitol Police LET THEM IN THE BUILDING.

  146. 146.

    Dan B

    @Woodrow/asim: Agreed at least from the vantage point of a gay man who lived in the Midwest pre Stonewall, and because most of our neighbors are black.  It’s disturbing but not shocking.  The level.of violence that’s just beneath the surface of half of Americans is simply being revealed.  Bringing these monsters to justice will be fraught.

  147. 147.

    NotMax

    @Calouste

    25th Amendment is clunky and time consuming at best. V.P. and majority majority of the cabinet must assent and transmit the appropriate letter to Congress. Which can be initially undone by the transmission of a letter from the president saying “Nah, I’m okay.” After that the V.P. and cabinet must repeat the procedure within four days and both chambers of Congress must uphold it by a 2/3 vote within 21 days after that.

  153. 153.

    Aleta

    Instead of “never seen this before,” today’s exhibition should be treated as one more illustration of the destruction of federal property, threats and crimes that the Trumps and their supporting gov’t officials and businesses specialize in.   On a continuum with the Bundy family.   It makes me fear for the safety of BLM employees and low level state workers, CDC workers, …

  156. 156.

    PJ

    @MCA1: They still need 2/3 of the senate.  B/c Warnock and Ossoff have not been sworn in, you need 2/3 of 98, which is 65, so 17 Republicans in addition to the 48 Democrats.  I don’t think it’s going to happen.

  157. 157.

    Kent

    Meanwhile while no one is noticing, Ossoff’s winning margin has gone up to 32,883 (0.74%) and Warnock’s margin has gone up to 68,043 (1.6%) .  Both well above the 0.5% margin that allows for a recount or challenge.

  158. 158.

    Kent

    @PJ:@MCA1: They still need 2/3 of the senate.  B/c Warnock and Ossoff have not been sworn in, you need 2/3 of 98, which is 65, so 17 Republicans in addition to the 48 Democrats.  I don’t think it’s going to happen.

    If you are going to have to depend on Republicans to do the right thing, the 25th Amendment is the way to go, not another impeachment.

  159. 159.

    Gvg

    I have only a small tepid defense do the capital police. These MAGA patriot proud boy type idiots have been running their mouths and not doing much for quite awhile. Sometimes they do carry through, but their have been a lot more fizzles and duds. Trump likes big rallies. He has been urging all kinds of violence the last 5 years. Mostly we got 50people with flags when they claimed to expect a million. There has been threatening on line chatter the whole time too And experts warning about it. I wonder if there was some “cry wolf” thinking involved in the planning.

    Now video showing law enforcement posing for pictures is another matter and likely should result in some firings.

    i know that the DC over reaction to BLM protests came from Trump giving orders and when this time he wasn’t opposed….lower level authorities didn’t step up. Having a thug for a President is a problem.

    i want these traitors to get fair trials, jail and ostracized for life.

  161. 161.

    cain

    @Woodrow/asim:

    Yes, this is what I’ve learned as well while dating a black woman. Perseverance. It’s something you live with every day. This is hard to imagine for many of us including Indians who live here.

  162. 162.

    Lyrebird

    @bluefoot: I know this is wicked late and you’re likely way past this thread, but fwiw I am praying* that this brazen attack will help everyone*2 not fully brainwashed see the disgusting and deadly double standards…

     

    *that fuels my calling and donating, too, don’t doubt it!

    *2 everyone especially other white people, speaking as one

  163. 163.

    Kent

    What the ever living fuck is this about.  Anyone know?  Was he caucusing with the Democrats and a Pelosi supporter?

    https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-state-rep-vernon-jones-announces-hes-joined-gop-been-fighting-demon-democrats-1559375

    Georgia state Representative Vernon Jones announced at a Wednesday protest in support of President Donald Trump that he is officially joining the Republican Party, saying that he has been fighting “demon Democrats.”

    Jones made the remarks during a pro-Trump demonstration organized by Women for America First at The Ellipse in Washington, D.C., ahead of Congress counting the electoral votes later in the day. Jones, who was elected as a Democrat, endorsed Trump last April. He said then that he did not plan to leave the Democratic Party, but he became a vocal supporter of the president.

  164. 164.

    bluefoot

    @Lyrebird: thanks. I’m hoping thing will get better. I hope all those people who have been saying “this is not America” now realize this is indeed partly who we are and the only way to make it better is to constantly work for it. And this – this insurrection – is the cost of denial and complacency.

  167. 167.

    Skepticat

    I’m so white I glow—except right now, when I’m so red with rage that I barely can stand it. It makes me crazy with frustration that there simply are no consequences for this sort of depraved, egregious behavior on any level. I feel helpless and hopeless, and I’m not certain whether I’ll be able to sleep tonight.

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    Villago Delenda Est

    @Haroldo: Not any more he’s not.  He’s been suspended for the next 12 hours or so and put on notice that if he doesn’t cut this shit out, it’s permanent.

  169. 169.

    Tehanu

    You and me both, John. You and me both. God, I’m so sick of these people. What kind of “patriot” invades the Capitol carrying a fkg Confederate flag?

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    BSR

    Couldn’t have said it better.  Going to use “Cletus Brigade” for the next few weeks at work!

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