Looking at the pictures of the mob yesterday and watching some of the unhinged nonsense they posted on tiktok and elsewhere, I once again would like to restate that we have an unchecked mental health crisis in this nation. People are stigmatized and afraid to talk about it, and even if they did we have not devoted the resources to help them. It’s a nightmare.
In other news, I would like everyone to remember that the madness is almost over, and soon we will have a new President and Congress and the hard work begins to rebuild the nation. We can make it. Until then, be like Steve:
Steve is calm, cool, collected, and fucking magnificent.
Elizabelle
Mike Pence would not dare leave Steve on hold for 20 minutes plus. Not with those paws.
(As he did to Pelosi and Schumer. Who then took to their podiums.)
hueyplong
@Elizabelle: Steve would not limit himself to a podium response.
germy
The expression on Steve’s face. That’s the same look my cat gives me sometimes.
Jeffro
I sure would like to know what broke about 25% of the country’s brains across the past decade or so, to the point where ‘Q’ nonsense exists anywhere outside of lunatic asylums.
I think having folks’ fear buttons pushed 24/7 by *bong*BREAKING NEWS*bong* on RWNJ propaganda channels pushed many of them beyond any sense of rationality.
narya
John? Thanks again for this blog. I am grateful to have this community. Even when folks are WRONG, it still feels like a good place to be.
Elizabelle
@hueyplong:
Steve could go straight to “medieval.” Unless he preferred to zen out.
Darkrose
@hueyplong: I like to imagine that Steve’s podium response would involve hacking up a big hairball on Mike Pence’s shoes.
Phylllis
Steve also has the best chair.
mrmoshpotato
Be a magnificent bastard. Noted.
MattF
So, Trump is planning to pardon himself. And so, any Federal charge will be stuck in endless appeals in the courts. Trumpissimo!
WaterGirl
I love you, Steve! That face. He truly is magnificent.
TomatoQueen
His expression. Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_39eAx3z8
Eljai
Steve is so handsome. And those paws!
TomatoQueen
@Phylllis: I want that chair, or at least buying details.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
thank you for reminding me I need to step away from this machine…
Raoul Paste
When I saw the title of this post I had to laugh even before I saw the picture . Thanks John
Ten Bears
Of late I’ve been reminded of, and it took a while to remember the title, a short by Heinlein from the early fifties, his middle years as it were, <i>Year of the Jackpot</i>. I can’t begin to do it justice in a blog comment, I encourage you to look it up.
stinger
I love Steve.
Just Some Fuckhead
States ranked from most seditious to least seditious based on reps/senators who voted to overthrow democracy divided by state electors. Where does your state rank?
1. Alabama 77.78%
2. Oklahoma 71.43%
3. Kansas 66.67%
3. Mississippi 66.67%
5. Tennessee 63.64%
6. Louisiana 62.5%
7. Missouri 60%
8. South Carolina 55.56%
9. North Carolina 46.67%
10. Florida 44.83%
11. Texas 44.74%
12. Pennsylvania 40%
12. West Virginia 40%
14. Georgia 37.5%
15. Arizona 36.36%
15. Indiana 36.36%
17. Montana 33.33%
17. Utah 33.33%
17. Wyoming 33.33%
20. Virginia 30.77%
21. Ohio 27.78%
22. Idaho 25%
23. Colorado 22.22%
24. Minnesota 20%
24. Nebraska 20%
24. New Mexico 20%
24. Wisconsin 20%
28. Michigan 18.75%
29. Arkansas 16.67%
30. Oregon 14.29%
31. New York 13.79%
32. California 12.73%
33. Kentucky 12.5%
34. Illinois 10%
34. Maryland 10%
36. New Jersey 7.14%
37. Alaska 0%
37. Connecticut 0%
37. Delaware 0%
37. Hawaii 0%
37. Iowa 0%
37. Maine 0%
37. Massachusetts 0%
37. Nevada 0%
37. New Hampshire 0%
37. North Dakota 0%
37. Rhode Island 0%
37. South Dakota 0%
37. Vermont 0%
37. Washington 0%
dmsilev
Post headline:
“Trump awards Medals of Freedom to three golfers on morning after riot at Capitol”
Not much else needs to be added.
Phylllis
@TomatoQueen: I’m willing to bet La-Z-Boy.
Cameron
@Elizabelle: He had to make an unexpected detour: https://youtu.be/I23HC82WGZg
dmsilev
@Just Some Fuckhead: I’m in CA, and that ranking doesn’t surprise me. Mostly a blue state, but the red parts are so very very red. Devin Nunes, for instance.
Just Some Fuckhead
@dmsilev: California is 6th least seditious. That’s great. Thank you for supporting America.
Leto
So does everyone remember the goon from yesterday who was in the buffalo headdress/fur getup? basically that and just a pair of pants? Not only did CNN ID him, but my friend sent me his official resume from the http://www.backstage.com website. His profile has already been pulled down, but it gives his location/stats (heigh/weight/build/eye&hair color)… basically everything the FBI is looking for. A group of fucking rando’s on the internet can find these fucks, but the FBI is like “halp!” As Baud asked, shouldn’t the FBI ask for help? Yes, but this shit has been out there for a looooong while. No excuses.
Elizabelle
@MattF: From the NY Times story, by Mike Schmidt and Maggs Haberman. Informative; it’s very worth a click. And– you can comment on it! They’ve just opened reader comments.
debbie
Hope Adam sees this: Malcolm Nance was interviewed on NPR this afternoon, and he was on fire about the Capitol Police and the lack of protection. He pretty much laid it at Trump’s tiny feet.
Calouste
@Leto: The FBI needs to find thousands of these insurrectionists, not just a couple that had their mugs out in the open.
germy
Capitol police held the door open for them as they walked out:
Old School
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Ummmm… California is 19th least seditious.
Leto
@Calouste: they will, but this information has been out in the open for a LOOONG time. They’re not being shy about it. This is shit that should’ve been headed off a while ago. It’s just more shit we have to clean up.
germy
@Just Some Fuckhead:
The south shall rise again, or something.
Leto
@germy: “Thanks for visiting; please remember to leave a positive Yelp review! See you next time!” – Capitol Police
Elizabelle
Other tidbits from the NY Times story:
Kristine
Surprised by Alaska and the Dakotas. And Washington, tbh.
Disappointed in Illinois. Both reps who supported the objection were downstaters, though, so no real surprise.
laura
Steve’s massive mitts give him self confidence and brio! Just one glorious cat in full.
The president had appeared to White House aides to be enjoying watching the scenes play out on television.
Rage Boner Alert!
Steeplejack (phone)
I dunno, Cole. Steve looks a little concerned. Like Susan Collins level concerned.
worn
He sure the fuck is, John. An ex-GF had a Maine Coon as well; a cat’s cat they are.
And good advice. Got a call from my oldest friend this morning (we met in 1978). He’s an ex-Army right winger and basically first thing out of his mouth was that he wasn’t concerned about what happened at the Capitol. And with that I told I just couldn’t and ended the call.
I suppose I need a Steve pill.
germy
@Leto:
“Four Stars. I would return. As a matter of fact, I will.”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
You don’t say?
tough guy’s handle is “George Reincarnated Patton”
Calouste
@Just Some Fuckhead: Could you do that again, but then for Republicans only, specially Republican Representatives? Because quite a few states are going to hit 100% by that metric.
Bard the Grim
@Kristine: “Surprised by Alaska and the Dakotas.”
Small-number statistics.
hueyplong
Our King Henry is part Maine Coon and part tabby. A more delicate, prettier but less imposing figure than Steve, he hides and darts out to attack us when we walk by his lair (defined as basically anything he can hide behind or under). Tags us on the back of the knee with a paw and scrambles away. He has given the spousal unit joy each and every day of this pandemic.
craigie
I don’t know about “fucking magnificent”, but I was cool, calm, and collected yesterday, as I am most days. My wife on the other hand…
Steeplejack (phone)
@Leto:
Oh, hell, that guy is the “Q shaman.” He has been famous for a while. You can get his name just by googling.
Boing!
NotMax
Shambling toward syllogistics. The oasis gets closer every day.
Ken
I sometimes manage to get a nice zen state where I’m not thinking about the past or future, or indeed anything at all. It’s pleasant but it doesn’t last. I imagine that’s how cats and dogs live almost their entire lives.
West of the Rockies
The sad reality is that in this nation and this world, there are millions of terrible people: racists, misogynists, homophobes, those who take machetes to those of another town or tribe, those who lynch, throw acid, torture animals, beat their partners and children, deny science, shit on the environment…
Thankfully, we do outnumber them.
patrick II
I am wondering if Trump is going golfing this week. It would be wildly inappropriate, but every day he spends golfing would be a good thing at this point.
Comrade Colette
Chipotle cat rolled over and stretched out for a tummy rub this morning, and when I obliged, he curled up fast as a flash of lightning and bit me.
Be like Chipotle.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Old School:
Sixth after all the ties at the bottom.
Matt McIrvin
@Jeffro: A quarter of this country were always bigoted, fascist bastards. What changed is that the rest of us used to be more willing to put up with their shit for the sake of comity and now we’re a little less so, and they are feeling it. It makes them fantastically angry and causes them to believe in baroque conspiracies.
But a lot of them already did, anyway. A lot of QAnon is just the old Blood Libel revived, for instance.
WaterGirl
@germy: They were just allowed to walk out. They weren’t arrested. No one took their information? Un-fucking-believable.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
I don’t know why, but tonight when I saw mention made of Steve, there was a voice in the back of my head saying “Hey-ooo!”
LivingInExile
Kristine. Was Lahood one of them? That asshole is my rep.
Old School
@Steeplejack (phone): I know how the error was made, but it was still incorrect.
different-church-lady
Sociopaths have too many seats in our government.
Betsy
What an incredible cat. What a handsome kitty. What a good photograph.
Mary G
That picture looks like an old master painting of the pking on the throne. “I rule the world.” It was nice to see Lily yesterday, too.
different-church-lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
We find your offer acceptable.
MattF
@WaterGirl: Oh… they’re just tourists. It’s well known that tourists will start bleeding for almost no reason at all.
japa21
I am not a cat person. But Steve almost makes me change my mind.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Opioids and Antidepressants.
debbie
I’m reading that Twitter has suspended @realDonaldTrump for 14 days??? ?
Immanentize
John, do you have to petition Steve for use of the Bark-a-lounger? Like three hours in advance? Or do you rent time from Steve on a sublet basis?
MattF
@Jeffro: First question is always: ‘What is the name of the medication you’ve stopped taking?’
Wapiti
@Kristine: One of the Eastern WA reps, Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R), had an abrupt change of heart yesterday.
Chris
@Jeffro:
I’m less interested in the 25% than I am in the next 25/30% mass of “moderates” and “centrists,” so-called, who manage to look at shit like this and then look at the left and wail “both parties are just as bad!”
zhena gogolia
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Happy to say 0%
raven
@germy: Ist ID bloody head.
TheronWare
Steve with his GQ pose!
LuciaMia
@dmsilev: “Trump awards Medal Of Freedom to half-empty yogurt container.”
zhena gogolia
@japa21:
How are you feeling?
Misterpuff
@Jeffro:
Fear of a Black President
Fear of Diversity and Equality
Fear of diminished influence due to diminished brainpower.
Posted immediately so probably echoing many other responses.
LuciaMia
@Leto: I cant wait to see that mother-fucker who cashed Pelosi’s office, in a brand-new orange jump suit.
West of the Rockies
@debbie:
Where are you seeing that?
japa21
@zhena gogolia: Better, still some breathing issues but not as bad. No real stamina. Mentally much better with out the Covid diagnosis hanging over me. Thank you for asking.
Just Some Fuckhead
@LuciaMia: Surprised Trump hasn’t given the Medal of Freedom to the Burger King King. Prolly trying to shake him down for free burgers.
marcopolo
@Jeffro: I don’t have time to flesh out a good response to your questions but:
There’s a lot more but the bottom line gist is social cohesion is at an all time low, most folks feel a lot of insecurity (health, job, personal safety), we have a tech/info/communications infrastructure that makes it really easy to appeals to people’s fears & manipulate them
Edited to add that unlike J Cole I do not think the madness is almost over. I think we are almost to the point where we will no longer have a madman running things but the 27% (or whatever the real number is) of US citizens who are batshit crazy disconnected from reality easily manipulated by bad people aren’t going anywhere & I don’t know how to correctly address this issue. I have a friend who say governments should just put downers directly in our drinking water–I used to laugh at him a lot more than I do now.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Leto:
Well, that eliminates Baud as a suspect.
Quinerly
Second guy in fur pelts yesterday has been identified as Aaron Mostofsky. He’s a Brooklyn judge’s son. Orthodox. Has his buddy with him in one pic with Confederate Battle Flag. His brother bragged in Spring about Trump connections.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/nyc-man-says-he-stormed-us-capitol-to-fight-stolen-election/
And https://gothamist.com/news/trump-fur-ever-costumed-capitol-rioter-son-brooklyn-supreme-court-judge
Martin
Well, they’re organizing a new action on inauguration day, so the FBI may get a 2nd shot at some of these guys if they don’t track them down by then.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Misterpuff: Believing that the micro space lizards who pilot world leaders around like the jeweler in Men in Black are breaking into one’s house at night to steal one’s left socks is bit more than racism.
MisterForkbeard
Question: I’m starting to see “Al-Maga” to describe these terrorists. What do we think of that? Could it be pithier? :)
Aleta
marcopolo
@Martin: Oh yeah, the action where they are explicitly telling folks to bring their weapons. Sounds great. So glad the Biden folks have been telling people not to come to DC to celebrate the inauguration.
MisterForkbeard
@Martin: Too much to hope that the FBI will actually look at their public postings and plans, I guess.
debbie
@Jeffro:
I think it began when they started hybridizing marijuana to increase the THC or whatever it is that makes people loco.
debbie
@West of the Rockies:
I follow Amy Suskind (“The List”) on FB. She posted it a couple of hours ago.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Quinerly
@Aleta: Steny Hoyer posted something about a John Lewis tribute being destroyed/damaged.
zhena gogolia
@japa21:
I hope the improvement continues apace!
Jeffro
I think that’s close. The rest of us used to have to put up with their shit, ‘cause they were the ones in power, and now they’re less so…so now we don’t have to put up with it, etc etc. But yeah, they are totally feeling it. Also, fuck their feelings ;)
Elizabelle
Brave General John Kelly says he would vote for the 25th Amendment.
If he was in the Cabinet. Which he is not. He enabled Trump throughout his tenure.
Quinerly
John Kelly now saying he would invoke 25th now if he was still in the Cabinet. Talk amongst yourselves….
Kristine
@LivingInExile: Nope. Mike Bost and Mary Miller. 12th and 15th districts.
no comment
@Jeffro:
When I was at my lowest point of clinical depression (then untreated), I came close to believing some really crazy things. I also teased my poor cat at the time by annoying or startling him, & got enjoyment out of that. When I look back on that time, it’s hard for me to believe that I did & thought those things.
I don’t think untreated depression can account for everything, but I can definitely see it playing a factor. Combine it with the constant lies of the rightwing media, and a society that favors money & power over compassion for others, and you have a toxic breeding ground for these kind of actions.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: are you watching Nicole Wallace with me?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Just Some Fuckhead: Him and the McDonald brothers.
Calouste
@Jeffro: I don’t see much of a difference between the Q nonsense and taking the Bible (flood, a talking burning bush, someone survives being eaten by a whale, people living to 900, etc, etc, and etc) literally. I suspect the Venn diagram is fairly close to a circle. Either you have critical thinking skills and you use them, or you don’t. In other words, these people were always there ( and the percentage was higher in earlier times), they are just focused differently.
Jeffro
@Chris: that’s what sent me over the edge with my brother yesterday. to paraphrase: “BLM broke a window, sometime, somewhere; therefore, it’s not a huge deal if hundreds of violent domestic terrorists take over the Capitol.” UGH!!
He’s a Reagan baby/”libertarian”/nihilist and he actually makes me madder than my supremely ignorant dad (but only by a hair).
Elizabelle
Miles Taylor, “Anonymous”: “The American people have voted to remove Donald Trump.
All that we are asking is that his Cabinet remove him sooner. ”
That’s a good point. He says Pence is not courageous, but does believe in the Constitution; wouldn’t go for the 25th A unless it was brought to him “organically” and had the votes.
Martin
@Jeffro: White christians fell into the minority in the US for the first time in 400 years sometime during the Obama admin. For a long time it was just one group of white christians voting against a different group of white christians for a bunch of white christians.
Obama both broke that dynamic as a candidate and then also demographically broke the increasingly consolidated white christian voting bloc that had all congealed in the GOP as Dems gave up white labor class voters for black and latino voters.
That leaves the GOP with three options:
They chose 2 and 3, and each election they need to crank that up because the problem gets worse each election. Trump walked right into a perfect situation, and the GOP welcomed him in because he could tell the big lie that they needed him to tell.
The next chapter of the GOP is going to be fucking shitshow.
Quinerly
Has anybody posted this. Inside job?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/some-among-america-s-military-allies-believe-trump-deliberately-attempted-a-coup-and-may-have-had-help-from-federal-law-enforcement-officials/ar-BB1cypbi?ocid=ob-fb-enus-1541512262291
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Yes. Listening. Hello there to you and my bud JoJo.
(I like Miles Taylors’ backdrop. He’s got a typewriter.)
hueyplong
@MisterForkbeard: I saw “Beer Belly Putsch.”
catclub
If he came out in favor of voting to impeach in January of 2020, I did not remember it. I suspect he made the principled (yeah, right) decision to stay silent.
Martin
@MisterForkbeard: From what I’m reading, the FBI saw this coming as did some other agencies, but nobody was willing to put up a show of force against Trump supporters and get fired.
pat
@germy:
Incredible. Every one of them should have been arrested.
Immanentize
@Calouste: well, speaking of Venn — still one of my favorites:
MazeDancer
Does anyone know any cat rescues within driving distance of Elgin, SC?
Little kitten has broken leg and vet won’t treat stays.
Seems odd to me, too. Why not raise money to pay vet.
But the person asking on Twitter is legit.
Warning, cute kitten pic:
https://twitter.com/moppyopps/status/1347289072218251265?s=21
Contact: Instagram at @ muse_divine
debbie
@Elizabelle:
Heh, I thought you two were referring to that clownish producer on Murphy Brown.
Steeplejack (phone)
Chilling video:
Immanentize
@Quinerly: I saw in the thread below that there is going to be some investigation into whether Congressional staffers were also involved with the insurrection. Makes sense. I’ve met a few of the assholes there.
cain
@marcopolo:
Also, lot of other social constructs like families are rapidly changing as well. Even the pronouns are changing. There is a lot of stuff happening culturally that can be hard. The white male is in the cross hairs of every other group given their long stint as the overdog.
WaterGirl
@Martin: How do you know this?
debbie
@West of the Rockies:
Also just confirmed on NPR: “Not allowed back until after he leaves office.”
ETA: “If he continues breaking the rules, he could be banned forever.”
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: JoJo is full of snacks. He is doing cheese farts and snoring like an old man. Did you catch Nicole’s mention of the video with Trump et al in that tent, watching videos of the crowds, and Laura Brannigan playing? First mention of that video I have heard in the MSM. It really should get some coverage… Airtime.
Just Some Fuckhead
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I think he’s just going to pardon Hamburgler.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Press is now trying to rewrite history to erase their complicity. They carried water for him the past 10 years, they wrote endless “pivot” articles the last 5 years and today, they’re now saying they foresaw this end all along.
Fuckers should all be lined up against the wall.
catclub
I think it is REALLY crazy that stocks are up today. They seem to have a whole lot more faith in the system working things out than any of the politicians. usually markets will go down in the face of ‘uncertainty’
You would think having 25% of the population being utterly deluded, angry and armed, might cause concern.
MisterForkbeard
@Martin: Sounds about right. Special treatment for conservatives again.
Seriously, I can’t imagine that people were so scared that they couldn’t even say something like “we expect there to be a lot of Trump supporters and a lot of Biden supporters, so we’re putting in extra security just in case”.
There were Trump-friendly ways to put additional security there. They didn’t do it because they didn’t want to, not because they were scared for their jobs.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Steeplejack (phone): Those crafty Antifa bastards are wearing MAGA hats.
MisterForkbeard
@catclub: I’m not surprised at all.
What we do know: Democrats will be in charge, and Republicans will do their best to sabotage. That’s STILL better than 4 more years of Republican rule.
Immanentize
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@MazeDancer: try this (link) and this (link)
SiubhanDuinne
@Elizabelle:
Goddamn motherfucking bastard passive voice.
gvg
I read over the short version of the 25th and it struck me that Pence would be in a huge dangerous fight if he tried to invoke it, like it doesn’t spell out how he could be protected from the presidents crazy supporters, not to mention the rest of the cabinet leaders. We are talking about a huge division of loyalties for all the security forces when its an involuntary removal. I think the amendment only pictured accidents like the President getting shot or having a stroke. Not a real nutcase. Which to be fair, more of the American people should have realized before they voted for him. The second problem is he appoints all the people who have to judge him.
The amendment has worked well for things like surgery and basically competent Presidents. It doesn’t seem adequate to this one and blaming Pence for not having courage is missing a point. I am sure Trump didn’t pick him for courage but I can see some problems with the actual amendment too.
Immanentize
@catclub: The market is imagining the economy six months from now. Biden is President, vaccine distribution ramping up, summer travel? It always looks ahead not at the moment and things are very likely to get better.
PenAndKey
I’m sure some of you noticed that I have gone large stretches of absences lately. (Or not, not really sure how much of an impact I have here to be honest.) Why have I done so? One, my wife had a baby in April so… yeah. The other reason? I’ve had multiple high stress near panic attack level anxiety events over the last few months keeping up with the pandemic and federal politics. For my own health I disconnected, hunkered down with my wife, kids, and hobbies, and pretended to live in simpler times until I felt I could engage without, literally, damaging my heart.
Other than my wife you all are the only ones I will likely ever tell that to and, to be frank, none of you could pick me out of a line-up if you wanted to. I know I’m not alone if feeling this overwhelmed this year. Just as I know I’m not alone in feeling uncomfortable revealing just how much psychological strain and stress I’ve endured largely alone since I can’t physically meet up with any of my friends except my wife. I have no doubt that the amount of lasting psychological and physical damage we have all gone through will be studied for generations, because this whole “grin and bear it, this too shall pass” thing many of us are doing? It’s not healthy.
debbie
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
He’s gotten a pass since the mid-1970s.
Baud
@Immanentize: Also there shouldn’t be gridlock after GA.
gvg
@catclub: Maybe they already priced that in. It’s not actually new news.
Quinerly
@Just Some Fuckhead: I really love that middle aged fat White, bald guy in the Trump hat with the black sweatshirt that said “MAGA Civil War January 6,2021.” Here’s really a skinny, 25 yo Black dude with dreadlocks, card carrying member of BLM. ?
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Did hear her say that! And then the internet connection cut out.
But wow
ETA: I watch MSNBC (and CNN) online via this website. It cuts out after a certain period of time. https://livenewschat.eu/politics/
Learned about this website through a jackal, and always appreciate that during breaking news. On the overly cluttered home page: top headlines at the top takes you to CNN. Politics goes to Rockin Rooster’s politics and MSNBC.
SiubhanDuinne
@germy:
Did you hear Scarborough this morning? “You held the fucking DOOR open for them!”
Immanentize
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
So you agree with whoever carved into the door of the Capitol, “Murder the Media?”
Seems that maybe the insurrectionist racists were antifa after all.
MisterForkbeard
@PenAndKey: I’ve been there. I had a couple of very-near-to-panic attacks in the last few months, but I’d absolutely gone into stress induced depression a few times. And we’re not alone – I know lots of people that have gone there, and the long term effects are really awful. I even had to let someone go who worked for me, because she just… stopped communicating. Wouldn’t respond to e-mails or texts but was doing her job and meeting her deliverables. Clearly super depressed but we couldn’t get her to engage and couldn’t even get her to say she had a problem.
I can’t do much for you here, but you’re not alone and the BJ commentariat is always available if you need to talk about something.
MazeDancer
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Thanks.
Just came back to post that PETA volunteered, so handled one assumes.
But will send your links anyway.
NotMax
@catclub
That 25% does not have the funds to put in or pull out of the market, so for all intents and purposes isn’t worth notice.
Immanentize
@Baud: At least, not the same version of gridlock ?
debbie
@catclub:
Yesterday, it rose over 400 points, so there’s no rhyme or reason to those clowns.
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: Passive voice and seen by WHOM, NY Times??
hueyplong
Shouldn’t people be going on RWNJ sites ID’ing the supposed antifa plants within the Patriots?
Hey, I’m pretty sure I heard Billy Bob pronouncing Kamala Harris’ name correctly.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: she brought it up again. I think with Brennan. I zoned out for a few minutes.
Elizabelle
@debbie: I am guessing the market is ebullient that Trump is leaving. Maybe even more so today.
I would be ebullient if Trump left. This very minute!
ETA: Marketplace touched on that briefly last night. Whoever was opining thought it was because economy more likely to see stimulus spending by Biden. The COVID relief checks.
mrmoshpotato
@Just Some Fuckhead: Hmmmm. What 2 Illinois reps need a one-way trip to the Sun?
Quinerly
@hueyplong: I love that one guy caught on tape wearing his work badge. Employer identified him. And fired him.
MisterForkbeard
@hueyplong: They’re trying! Last I saw, they’d identified the “Q Shaman” guy dressed in furs as secret antifa, because he showed up to prior BLM protests.
And forgot that he was there as a counter protestor and has a loud and public history of being a Trump/QAnon supporter.
Immanentize
Justice Dept. Says one person arrested yesterday had eleven! molotov cocktails ready to go…. More soon.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Really committing to the role.
Jeffro
I don’t think it is, either, but I think we’re about to see them fight it out amongst themselves on the right (FSM please make it so)
Feathers
Who are these people – crazy, kind of useless, but can afford this sort of thing?, came up on one of the downstairs threads. Here are two links I really recommend. Came across them on the recommend of Anne Helen Peterson’s newsletter: .
American Gentry
Bro Culture, Fitness, Chivalry, and American Identity
Patrick Wyman grew up in Eastern Washington and then went on to get a PhD in History, studying late antiquity, AKA the end of the Roman era. Needless to say, his background gives him an interesting perspective on empire and current US culture. He had a podcast Fall of Rome, and now a new one, Tides of History, which covers other historical periods. I’ve been listening to Tides of History and really enjoying it. He has a great voice and there is lots of information, well presented and fucking edited. That he has a PhD and is very at home outside of academia are both evident. Listened to the two parter on the War of the Roses. My mom was a history major with a big thing for Shakespeare and the Tudors, so I’ve had an interest in the War of the Roses for a long time. And this podcast had things in it that I didn’t know and made me realize some of the things I knew were kind of jumbled.
TLDR: Here’s his interview with Anne Helen Petersen: Bro Culture and Empire in Decline
HumboldtBlue
Seeing as though I haven’t shaved in two weeks I sure am looking like Steve in the hair department.
prostratedragon
@debbie: He has. Go back and look at some photos of him from then. Even more punchable than Martin Shkreli.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
I’ll try to pull off calm, cool and collected but nobody has ever called me magnificent, or even magnificent adjacent, so I’ll leave that to Steve.
Fair Economist
@PenAndKey: It’s about to get better in the very near future. Just 2 more weeks to having a functioning government again.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Immanentize: I’d give them a trial. Like it or not, media enablers were held accountable at Nuremberg.
cain
The irony is – that’s what the electoral college was designed to prevent. Instead it helps the crazy GOP hold power and encourage nutcases to win.
sab
@Immanentize: Probably just waiting for dark to get a better display.
marcopolo
So Missouri’s Republican eminence grise, former Senator Danforth dropped a couple of interviews today admitting that sponsoring Josh Hawley’s entry into MO politics was the worst decision he ever made. Apparently he no longer remembers sponsoring Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court or supporting disgraced former governor Eric Greitens.
As for Greiten’s, who spent all of last year trying to rehabilitate himself (I guess so he can get back into politics), another disgraced former MO politician, Jeff Smith, says he’s been getting lots of texts over the past day asking if Greitens could beat Hawley in a senate race matchup:
For anyone wondering, having to chose between voting for Hawley or Greiten’s for any political office is the equivalent of whether to put arsenic or cyanide on your breakfast just before you eat it.
prostratedragon
“Steve is calm, cool, collected, and fucking magnificent.”
And in complete, dare I say compleat, rulership over someone who will gladly give him food and water, cuddles, hairbrushings, … These things help one’s sense of equipoise greatly.
opiejeanne
@Just Some Fuckhead: 0%, and Alabama should get 10 extra points for their AG.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@debbie: It rose on news of the Georgia victories ensuring needed robust stimulus, instead of McConnell’s economic sabotage.
Quinerly
I have no idea what I will do with all this spare time now that Lin Wood has been permanently banned from Twitter. He was suspended yesterday. Then bragged about going to post from a second acct. That got him permanently banned. Woman who was shot yesterday had just retweeted him before she broke into the Capitol.
West of the Rockies
@SiubhanDuinne:
The passive voice is hated.
Mike in NC
New op-ed on the Washington Post website: “Trump has blood on his hands” by one Marc Thiessen (!)
marcopolo
@mrmoshpotato: The two elected out of the deep red part of the state. Yes, southern IL, which has a lot of coal country in it, is full of dumb/ignorant white folks. Without Chicago, IL would look a lot more like IN. Anyways, Good luck trying to dislodge them.
Immanentize
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Media people were executed after trials at Nuremberg? Fake news. Because that is what you say you want. Media people shot to death.
I disagree with such lame ass macho posturing MAGA bullshit.
West of the Rockies
@PenAndKey:
You have my genuine sympathy. These are frightening times, but there is reason to be optimistic.
I know nothing about you, but feel free to email me if you want another contact point in your life, a cyber/phone friend.
Jeffro
@Mike in NC: Wow!
Ugh, great, now I’m applauding Marc “the GOP hack’s hack” Thiessen
Leto
Jason Johnson dropping truth bomb after truth bomb on Nicole Wallace’s show.
Geminid
@no comment: An interesting take. Moderate depression is not uncommon, and deep or “clinical” depression affects a fair amount of people. I’ve experienced it, and I’ve also seen how obsession will sometimes mask depression and provide relief, at least for a while.
Jeffro
@Jeffro: of course, he goes on to blame the media and to dismiss the Russia investigation, so never mind – fuck Marc Thiessen.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Leto: Yep. Perfect moral clarity.
Ken
@Immanentize: And now we can add a fourth circle, for “lost Presidency, House, and Senate”. Only happened once before in 1932.
NotMax
@PenAndKey
Not sure I’ve seen much of that here.
Dejection is warranted, despair is not.
(My tuppence.)
Ms. Deranged in AZ
Awww, Steve is such a chonky floofy monkey….what a handsome boy!!!!
I’ve come to the conclusion that I like cats more than most people. Especially after yesterday’s shenanigans.
Leto
@Ken: and you know what happened a year later? The Business Plot. You can draw a straight line from that to Nixon to Reagan, W, to yesterday.
Patricia Kayden
marcopolo
I need to go attend to the physical world now but before I head off, DKos folks are keeping a spreadsheet of D congresspeople who have come out in support of impeachment–up to 100 already!
Here’s a link to it.
If you are represented by a D congresscritter please check on the list to see if they’ve made an announcement & if they haven’t please consider calling their office and telling them you want Trump impeached. Cori Bush, my rep came out for impeachment yesterday.
Here’s a link with information for contacting Reps & Sens, including the Capitol Hill switchboard.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Two faced Donny is already claiming that it was Antifa who attacked Congress yesterday, but everyone saw that one coming.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize: I see the attempted violent overthrow of the US government wasn’t as peaceful as she thought it would be.
Quinerly
@Leto: great segment!
Elizabelle
The House leaders were calling nearby governors for assistance during the insurrection.
WaPost:
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D): [He ended a press conference early and returned to his office in the Capitol. His chief of staff got a call from DC Mayor Muriel Bowser’s office saying] saying the Defense Department was refusing to activate the District’s National Guard. The mayor wanted Northam to send in Virginia’s, as well as state police. Both requests were granted ASAP.
“She said they needed help,” the governor recounted, and “I told her, ‘As always, we stand ready and willing to help any way we can.’ ”
COS Mercer’s phone kept ringing with calls from staff for Virginia Sens. Mark R. Warner and Tim Kaine asking for help. Northam’s own phone lit up about 3:15 p.m. The caller ID read: “Nancy Pelosi.”
Northam had spoken with Pelosi “on a couple of occasions,” but those calls had been arranged through staff. He and Pelosi had exchanged direct numbers at some point, as leaders sometimes do, without really expecting to use them.
“She was really concerned,” Northam said. “She said they needed help, and I assured her that we had deployed the Guard and we’d sent the Virginia State Police. She said: ‘Ralph there’s glass being broken around me. I’ve heard there’s been gunfire. We’re just very, very concerned right now.’ ”
Pelosi and others apparently had been sequestered somewhere in the Capitol complex when she called. Virginia guardsmen gathered in Manassas [Northern VA] by that evening and were on the ground at the Capitol on Thursday morning, Northam said, praising their quick action.
But Northam also noted a glaring contrast between the Trump administration’s attitude toward deploying the guard in the summer against protesters demanding racial justice and the Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol.
“Back when the Black Lives Matter march was going on in Washington, the president — his secretary of defense — called and requested that we send our National Guard. And he said it was for the protection of the Capitol,” Northam said. “And that was a peaceful protest, in contrast to what happened yesterday.”
Northam said the Trump administration’s resistance to using the guard this time is telling.
“If anybody doesn’t believe in White privilege, they need to go back and review some of the footage of the Black Lives Matter march and what happened yesterday,” the governor said. “I would just say if African Americans or Muslims had been scaling the side of the nation’s Capitol or barging through barricades or marching through checkpoints, it would have been a very different picture.
piratedan
@MisterForkbeard: and I try to say okay… IF there were ANTIFA stealth-ninja-agitators embedded amongst the peaceful Trump faithful, why didn’t those patriotic peaceful demonstrators take them aside and inform them that storming the Capitol wasn’t cool? Right? They were instigating, why not subdue them and turn them over to the police to expose them for who they are and thus exposing the whole Radical Left-Wing Communist/Socialist agenda?
I’ve seen the BLM people video and log the Buggaloo Boys for destroying property during their protests, are these guys simply not savvy enough to protect their movement… the mind boggles at all of these missed opportunities. ////////
zhena gogolia
hueyplong
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Wait, so Donny “loves” antifa?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Word was Al-Maga was planning to give any congress member they caught a fair show trial before hanging them.
MattF
@Jeffro: Yeah, blaming the media at the end spoils it. You have to watch for that— blaming not-Trump.
Mike in NC
More Cabinet picks:
President-elect Joe Biden intends to name Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo (D) to be his secretary of commerce. And he has picked Boston Mayor Marty Walsh (D), a self-described “lifelong champion of working people,” to be the next secretary of labor.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@hueyplong: No, since everyone is saying the attack is bad, Donny is saying that it wasn’t his supporters but evil Antifa. Presumably Soros had leading members of Al-Maga cloned, or crises actors or some other such horse shit.
Ruckus
@Immanentize:
Silly boy. John bought that bark-a-lounger for Steve. To avoid further physical damage and bleeding to death. That’s Steve’s chair and anyone/any animal who thinks of occupying it is shredded in seconds. Just thinking about it is dangerous.
Elizabelle
@Leto: If you or Quinerly find video of Jason Johnson, please share. I was not watching, and would enjoy seeing it.
Calouste
@Immanentize: Maybe not at Nuremberg, but William Joyce (Lord Haw-Haw) was tried and executed after the war in the UK, for broadcasting propaganda in aid of the enemy.
MattF
@marcopolo: I was unsurprised to see my rep (Jamie Raskin!!!) on the side of the angels.
mrmoshpotato
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Confederate-loving anti-fascists. Yeah. That checks out.
What a traitorous orange pile of shit.
Aleta
(video clip)
Elizabelle
The National Guard leadership really dragged their feet on permitting Maryland to dispatch its National Guard.
Yet another topic for Biden and DC to look into.
scav
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: The evil antifa he went public to assure them of his love while they were still in the building?
cain
WH press briefing was short like 3 minutes and they left without answering questions.
sdhays
@Elizabelle: Really proud of my governor right there.
Elizabelle
@sdhays: Me too. I think Northam has been a very good governor.
PAM Dirac
@MattF:
Yup. I’ve only met him a few times, but he has always been impressive and the people I know who know him well are even more impressed. He is very smart, very committed, and very willing to do the thankless grunt work that doesn’t get big attention, but slowly moves things in the direction you want. He campaigned for state legislators in our very red district even though they had very little chance of winning, but their efforts moved a 65R-35D to 58R-42D and hopefully the next group can keep it moving and Raskin recognizes how important those efforts are. I hope I don’t get moved out of his district when the next re-districting happens.
debbie
@scav:
Props to the buffalo-horned anti-Fascist who cleverly disguised himself as a well-known member of QAnon. //
Danielx
@Immanentize:
You might want to look up Julius Streicher.
sherparick
@germy: That is actually a cat’s friendly look.
In other sad news, one of the great chroniclers of the Vietnam War has passed, Neal Sheehan, author of “Bright Shining Lie.” Time wise we are now almost as far away from the events of that war as we were in the 1960s from the Great War. But at least for the U.S. we seem forever locked in our de facto Cold Civil War that erupted over the Vietnam War & Civil Rights Revolution.
Another Scott
ICYMI, BlueVirginia.US:
Much more at the link.
Cheers,
Scott.
MattF
@cain: The entire event.
Ohio Mom
PenAndKey:
Give this two weeks — until Biden is sworn in — and if you are still too anxious, please, please, please call your primary care physician for some temporary “better living through chemistry.”
There is some evidence that chronic anxiety can damage the brain, setting off endless cycles.
Also, your little one deserves a happy parent! Do it for the baby.
As Cole observes, mental health issues are stigmatized in our country. Don’t internalize that stigma, advocate for yourself and get the medication help you so clearly need.
Keep us posted, we care.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: I am getting tired of thinking, and saying, Holy Fuck. But there we are. Yikes.
debbie
@Elizabelle:
This is why the District of Columbia needs to be freed from the Feds.
Chyron HR
@marcopolo:
My understanding is that once Trump is out of the picture these noble members of the white working class proletariat will flock to their rightful leader, Bernie Sanders.
Elizabelle
Meanwhile: in addition to the female Q Anon loon/USAF veteran shot and killed by Capitol Police as she was breaching a window (very near the Speaker’s office, if memory serves) —
the needlessly dead in yesterday’s insurrection/Trump festivities are: (per WaPost)
Greeson had a history of high blood pressure and died of a heart attack.
Phillips died of a stroke. He was “a computer programmer and an ardent supporter of President Trump. …. He used his expertise in computer programming to make several pro-Trump websites, including “The Scummy Democrats” and “Trumparoo.”
No news in this article on what happened to the 34-year woman old straight outta Georgia.
Uncle Cosmo
@Ten Bears:
VeniceRiley
They cheered him today.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/533198-republican-meeting-cheers-trump-one-day-after-capitol-violence-report
no comment
@Geminid:
Clinical depression is a chemical imbalance. It doesn’t refer to the severity. Mine is usually mild, but was pretty severe at the time I mentioned in my earlier post. You can also have depression due to traumatic and/or major changes in your life. That depression might be natural, but it becomes a problem if you don’t have a good support system or healthy coping skills.
I was a smart kid, and was encouraged to read and have critical thinking skills. I was also encouraged to treat other people fairly & be kind to others. I always loved animals, and I would consider myself relatively intelligent. But when the depression hit me hardest, it was like I was a different person.
It took me years to admit I needed help. I can see how others with a different upbringing or background might never crawl out of that hole, especially if they’re commiserating with others that just pull them right back in.
MisterForkbeard
@Jeffro: He’s blaming Trump entirely and not any of the Republicans who echoed him.
Fuck, even Loeffler and Purdue, two supposedly “moderate” Republican Senators were in on it until they lost their races and the assault happened. It’s on all them. And Marc Thiessen, too.
rikyrah
Steve looks cute in this picture.
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@japa21: We hope to keep hearing good news.
geg6
The Pennsyltucky T strikes again!
japa21
Regarding the Illinois GOP rep from down state. She is in a lot of trouble. She made acomment that hasn’t gone over very well.
Speaking at the rally prior to the invasion, she said
She later said it waqs meant to be a condemnation of the left.
Calouste
@Martin: If something happens on Inauguration Day that’s anywhere near what happened yesterday, it will be Secret Service snipers that are taking the 2nd shots at the insurrectionists, not the FBI.
I’m sure the shitgibbon won’t attend the inauguration. He’s just too much of a coward to even think about there being a riot targeted at an area where he would be. He’ll try to whip up his cult on Parler for a repeat though.
MisterForkbeard
@Mike in NC: Don’t know anything about any of those picks, but okay.
Baud
@MisterForkbeard:
I don’t know Walsh, but the workers groups I follow speak highly of him.
Ruckus
@gvg:
It is what it is. The 25th is all there is. This country decided to have an elected king and that’s what we’ve ended up with, an elected king with a start and end date rather than a lifetime appointment. If we weren’t such a divided country politically, with 2 parties, rational and irrational, we could even likely fix this by adjusting/making law. As it stands this is what there is, the party that brung em has to dance with em, and change his diaper when he shits himself.
It may not be the ideal solution.
Difficult to type that last line with tongue so firmly in cheek.
trollhattan
@Elizabelle:
I just don’t know what to make of any of this. Heather Heyer was murdered, martyred I suppose not through her actions but because her beliefs caused her to and confront fascism. She threatened nobody. These folks were doing something far, far different.
pat
Has no one else realized that Steve’s alert expression says “I hear a can opener!!
In another second he is off that couch…
sherparick
@sherparick: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/neil-sheehan-n-y-times-reporter-who-obtained-pentagon-papers-and-chronicled-bright-shining-lie-of-vietnam-dies-at-84/ar-BB1cyTB1?fb_comment_id=1171497172969462_1171569652962214&ICID=ref_fark
Danielx
Ooh, serious butthurt on the part of Republican reps because a democratic congressman called lies exactly what they are – lies.
Benw
Complete the word relationship.
Steve : _______ :: Jordan : basketball
RepubAnon
@germy: Steve looks as though he remembers the hair cuts – and is picking his moment.
raven
@Benw: Kerr
Frankensteinbeck
@zhena gogolia:
Trump was told that yesterday Pence would overturn the election, or Hawley would overturn the election, or delaying past midnight would overturn the election. He even got a rabid mob to attack his political enemies, like he has always wanted to do. Then he woke up this morning and Biden was confirmed after all. All the bullshit posturing meant nothing.
This was his last chance. The only other option the nuts he listens to think will work is a military coup, and the military already told him to fuck off.
He’s pretty upset, yes. I’m sure a whole lot of his followers had the same “But we won!” reality-to-face experience, but they haven’t personally had the military tell them a coup ain’t happening. They have that emotional cushion left.
debbie
@Frankensteinbeck:
I think he really will have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the White House.
Benw
@raven: lol
Quinerly
Simon & Schuster canceling the publication of an upcoming book by Senator Josh Hawley.
I guess that’s something.
Baud
@debbie:
We have mobs too.
Quinerly
Capitol Hill Police Chief resigns. Effective next week.
MattF
@debbie: More like frog-marched with his wrists behind his back.
debbie
hueyplong
@debbie: Saw something a few minutes ago that speculated that Trump will leave before Jan 20 so that he can do so on Air Force 1.
But who knows? A lot of melting down/degrading will happen between now and then.
I hope he shoots himself like his hero did in Berlin. It’s the romantic in me.
Charluckles
@PenAndKey:
Have you considered finding a therapist to talk to?
I grew up in a house with stoic Midwestern parents who didn’t talk about mental health. My wife came from a completely opposite background. Her insistence that we both go to her therapist together saved our marriage.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
There are people who are sick and there are people who are massively misguided about the world and reality. That will always be the case, it is the nature of, nature. We can, as animals with the ability to communicate over generations, work to fix some of this and many, many people have over centuries. Except that many have worked in exactly the opposite direction, since the first human walked the earth. We can and should work to fix as much of this as possible but we have to be aware that there are a lot of people who will work to format exactly the opposite concepts, for many reasons, none of them good. It is what it is, it takes a lot of effort and work to change it, attempt to fix it, live with what there is when change doesn’t work.
Personally I think we are at a major crossroads in humanity. There are a lot more of us than there were when I was born, over 7 decades ago. The old ways of hate, racism, sexism, they never really worked but they really, really don’t work now, and we have to find ways to get the world to and at least most of it’s inhabitants to have some understanding of the nature of ability to live the old ways, the new ways and that it will only get better when we make it better.
catclub
I thought this should refer to the woman caught on camera complaining “They teargassed us!” “What were you doing?” “Its a revolution”
debbie
@Quinerly:
It is something; however, I’d bet Regnery or some similar conservative publisher will pick it up. If so, it’d be great if employees objected en masse.
debbie
@Baud:
Dust off those pussy hats, gals…
catclub
@Quinerly: he was definitely NOT keeping his job.
dmsilev
@Quinerly: Hit him in his pocketbook. Certainly hurts him more than people calling him mean names on Twitter, so there’s that.
Here’s CNN’s report:
Calouste
@Quinerly: It will be picked up by Regnery before the day is out.
patrick II
@marcopolo:
Danforth was Thomas’s sponsor for the Supreme Court, so whether it’s his worst sponsorship is a closer call than you might guess.
catclub
or… the last 70-80 years were an aberration of enlightenment and science. Ask Hungary and Poland. Also Phillipines and Brazil
bluehill
Saw some tweets that showed some of the invaders breaking in and later carrying zip ties into the chamber. Speculated by the way they conducted themselves that they were ex-military or law enforcement and that one of their aims was to take hostages.
debbie
@PenAndKey:
You should never be ashamed to share. I would bet there are many resources in your area that could provide referral to professionals trained to help people dealing with similar issues. You ought to look into the possibilities.
dmsilev
I guess the question needs to be asked: What has Lil Wayne done?
catclub
If it was going to be published by S&S it probably will have to be edited down for regnery readers. Does regnery do any non-bulk-purchase publications?
Elizabelle
Could a front pager embed Michelle Obama’s statement? Here is her tweet. https://twitter.com/MichelleObama/status/1347284244763127810/photo/1
Quinerly
POS Texas atty fired from his general counsel position. Outed himself on social media when he was teargased yesterday.
Link
The Moar You Know
@Calouste: Yep, but S&S would have made him a millionaire. Regnery will not charge him for printing it but that’s about all. He’ll make some money, but losing a S&S deal is a big fucking hit in the pocketbook.
Matt McIrvin
@hueyplong: There’s a tradition of giving the outgoing President one last flight on one of the planes (there are two, currently) to the location of his choosing, though for that purpose it is technically not Air Force One because the President is not on board.
Of course, that assumes something like a regular transition.
Richard Nixon actually took off in Air Force One before Gerald Ford was sworn in, so the plane stopped being Air Force One in mid-flight and had to request a change of call sign.
debbie
@dmsilev:
Kimberly should be tossed into prison for that stupid dancing she does.
Gravenstone
@Darkrose: Think about the other end of wee beastie. Much more fitting.
debbie
@Quinerly:
From your link, more on that Horned Clown from yesterday.
germy
Elizabelle
@PenAndKey: Good to see you here. Sounds like you chose some excellent ways to detox, and wish you all the best. Hope the panic attacks subside/depart. What a year this has been.
debbie
@The Moar You Know:
Not to mention the loss of publicity and legitimacy. S&S throws great book tours.
Matt McIrvin
@PenAndKey: Excellent strategy and I commend you on it.
Elizabelle
Evening open thread?
This one is getting to be a bear for people scrolling through on their phones.
There must have been some news today …
bluehill
@germy: Lot more racists in SoCal than many people would be believe.
Gravenstone
@dmsilev: *blinks*
That’s… real?
*blinks
Uncle Cosmo
@Immanentize: Didn’t the Brits try, convict & hang William Joyce (“Lord Haw-Haw”)? There’s your “media people,” um, person.
Ruckus
@Charluckles:
Always good advice. Especially with something like the situation we are in now which is/can get to the most stoic of humans. Most of us are not able to go long time spans of isolation and little to nothing to do. I for example would really like to retire, before I turn 72 yrs whatever. And that’s coming up fairly soon as these things go. I only work 3 days a week and that is enough but I’m torn about retirement in that I’d be basically shut in not 4 days a week, but 7. At some time of course the point is irrelevant, but still it’s there.
NotMax
@Frankensteinbeck
“Tell me again about this kraken. It’s kept at Area 51, right?”
//
MisterForkbeard
@dmsilev: Not considering Erik or Donald Jr? Sucks to be part of that family.
VeniceRiley
@germy: LAPD …. That’s all I have to say.
dmsilev
@MisterForkbeard: Don Jr’s girlfriend is on the list though. Guess it’s because she’s hotter than he is?
Steeplejack (phone)
This is the stupidest goddamn thing I saw yesterday. Finally found a clip of it.
Leto
@Elizabelle: sorry, late and catching up on the thread. Here you go: https://mobile.twitter.com/MelodyMoezzi/status/1347305748783575040
Odie Hugh Manatee
@debbie:
No. Just, no…lol
patrick II
@dmsilev:
And a mass pardon for everyone breaching the capitol building yesterday.
NotMax
@MisterForkbeard
“Barely aware of them. Couldn’t pick them out of a line-up.”
//
Patricia Kayden
Fun thread.
dmsilev
@patrick II: I doubt it. They failed him, after all. Congress still went ahead and certified him as a loser.
Calouste
@The Moar You Know: Good :) Hopefully there is more of this kind of fallout for the seditionists in Congress. I don’t think that fundraising problems will mean much for Republican Representatives in gerrymandered districts, but if major companies boycott the Seven Seditious Senators, it could have an effect on their races.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack (phone):
Yesterday I was too upset to watch it. Today I see its comic side.
debbie
@Steeplejack (phone):
Anya shared an interview with another clown yesterday. He was from NJ, and he actually said that he was storming the Capitol and tearing down the barriers when he heard gunshots. “I don’t know why they were doing that.”
They’re all idiots.
The Moar You Know
@dmsilev: Just pled guilty in December to being a prior felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition. Federal charge, that was. Facing ten years. The prior felony was also…illegal possession of a firearm. What the fuck are people who do this shit thinking? He can hire some guards, for fucks sake.
I notice Uday and Qusay didn’t make the cut. That’s fucking cold.
NotMax
@Jeffro
Correlation is not causation. But it tracks nearly parallel with increase in consumption of bottled water.
Just sayin’.
;)
Elizabelle
@Leto: Thank you. I am liking Dr. Jason Johnson.
During this summer’s BLM protests at the Robert E Lee Monument in Richmond, a small plane circled and circled and circled overhead. It appeared on many occasions. I would see it at night. Several protesters told me it was for law enforcement, recording our cell phone information.
Oh well.
marcopolo
@patrick II:
Nothing personal, but do you typically only read one sentence of a comment before replying, cause this was the second sentence of that comment:
Gravenstone
@Immanentize: Hey now! Leave Yakko, Wakko and Dot out of this!
debbie
@Steeplejack (phone):
I wonder if they held sessions on how to pronounce “storm”?
germy
marcopolo
So much for the MAGAts supporting the police & Back the Blue:
Also, too, we are now up to 128 Representatives calling for Trump’s impeachment. Ninety to go. Check out the spreadsheet at the link and if you have a D congressperson listed who is not yet in support give them call.
catclub
@Steeplejack (phone): Thanks! anybody have pictures of taking down the US Flag from the Capitol and putting up the Trump flag?
Elizabelle
@Steeplejack (phone): It is funny. Watched that several times in a row.
germy
I thought those books were bought in bulk by the RNC and pushed right up to the top of the best seller list?
burnspbesq
@Elizabelle:
A question for Garland’s confirmation hearing.
Baud
@marcopolo: Oh damn.
Captain C
@The Moar You Know:
They’ve never
serviced himinspired his fantasies like Lucrezia does.The Moar You Know
@debbie: It’s an utter mystery.
America needs a better class of idiot. At least in most nations that are poor, shitty, and the rule of law tenuous at best, if one signs up to be part of a coup, they expect to get shot at if not actually shot and killed.
Only in America and possibly the UK could you find someone so fucking stupid that they’d show up and try to overthrow the government, kidnap and murder half the politicians, and think that getting shot at is outside the realm of possibility.
catclub
@patrick II: i will be amazed if does not do that.
germy
@Captain C:
Guilfoyle made the list. What’s going on there?
The Moar You Know
@germy: They are. Who do you think is getting the money from the sales? Ain’t the author.
BaffleGab
Ran across this video from ITV, in which the narrator and the camera actually join the mob as they enter the Capitol building. It’s like a ‘Wild Kingdom’ episode interviewing the indigenous peoples . Got to hand it to the balding, middle-aged Brit reporter- he has more cojones than I would have.
debbie
@germy:
WTF was that guy thinking, wearing his work ID?
Alison Rose
@germy: Crimes against the art of dance
Alison Rose
@debbie:
Assumes facts not in evidence.
debbie
@germy:
Criminal shimmying.
germy
@debbie:
He didn’t think he was doing anything wrong. Probably expected a pat on the back.
Calouste
@patrick II: Wait, why would he pardon Antifa? That’s what Fox said, they were all Antifa, right?
Leto
@Elizabelle: I would say they’re wrong as that’s probably the least effective way of collecting that info. Law enforcement already works with cell providers on signal location as it’s the cell towers that provide your location. Don’t know why the plane was there, but it’s not that.
germy
@The Moar You Know:
He’s not looking for money. He’s got his eyes on a bigger prize.
burnspbesq
@Quinerly:
Saw that Business Insider article earlier today on Le Livre des Visages.
Somebody sure as shit caused the Capitol Police to be woefully unprepared.
patrick II
@marcopolo:
Yeah, actually I have been doing that. It has been a rough patch for me. Probably I’ll just listen for awhile.
Frankensteinbeck
@debbie:
He was thinking that the government and law enforcement exist to represent the interests of him and his people and no one else. It is the whole point of Republicanism and from his viewpoint he had been allowed in to remove a few parasites that were defiling the system.
Gravenstone
@debbie: Ooh crowd! Looks like fun. Think I’ll go see what’s going on.
jonas
@Elizabelle: Exactly right. Kelly knew what Trump was. He went along with it, particularly the child separation policy. Fuck him with a rusty pitchfork. There is no redemption.
Chetan Murthy
@jonas:
Hannah Arendt taught us that Fascism is just the methods of Imperialism, but brought home to the metropole. Kelly is -fine- with the methods of Imperialism, applied to them dusky furriners [and I’m sure he’d be OK with stretching a point, to include *me* in that description]. What he’s not OK with, is applying those methods in his hometown. And as much as I shudder to say this, we need to embrace him for at least the next 16 days. B/c fuuuuck, these are dark times. I’ll say a kind word for him in the House of Commons, even if he’d be OK with them herding me onto a railroad car. Priorities, people.
Dan B
Chetan Murthy
@Dan B:
I can only imagine the fear she must have felt as these white supremacists invaded her workplace. It fills me with rage to imagine it.
Misterpuff
@dmsilev:
Current Wikipedia entry for Gary Player : Gary Player DMS, OIG (born 1 November 1935) is a South African white supremacist and a retired professional golfer who is widely considered to be one of the greatest golfers ever.[1]
Gary should have remembered ETTD.
burnspbesq
@Mike in NC:
!!!!!
bcw
To hell with more cowbell, Steve gives us more toes!
Ruckus
@debbie:
Thinking?
Really? They are all too stupid to think. They are followers. Even the military doesn’t like people who just follow and don’t think. You’d imagine they would like that but you end up with a group of people who can’t find the bathroom with their legs crossed.
J R in WV
@Elizabelle:
Regarding Trump’s use of a “self pardon” to protect himself just before leaving office, that doesn’t worry me that much.
Does anyone think Trump will magically become a law-abiding good citizen on January 20th at noon? No. So by the end of the day on January 21st he will have committed new felonies. I may exaggerate a little bit, it may take a week or two, but a close watch would catch him in a felony, and then that pardon could be shredded by the lawyers as the product of a continuing pattern of illegal conspiracy.
And can a president pardon himself (herself) from the guilt of having attempted to overthrow the democratic process itself? I don’t think so. The pardon will be part of the conspiracy to overthrow the democratic process, the insurrection he ignited personally over the past year.
I still hope to see Mr Trump in the dock for violent insurrection, conspiracy to commit sedition, and murder for the deaths that occurred in our national seat of government. Along with everyone else working in the White House with any leading responsibility. Like Stephan Miller, Don Jr, Eric, Jarvanka, all of those ringleaders of this horrific and illegal conspiracy to overturn our government.
ETA: I still firmly believe that eventually, everyone in the capitol building illegally should and will be indicted for a wide variety of violent crimes, including felony murder of all those who died in this unbelievable violent revolutionary insurrection. When someone dies in the course of a felony, that’s a murder at the hands of those committing the felonies.
If a driver outside the bank can be prosecuted for the murder inside the bank during the robbery, surely these people may be prosecuted for the wide variety of deaths caused by their joint operation!
J R in WV
@japa21:
My dad always said he didn’t like cats. He was mildly allergic, in fact. But when we visited with our cat for an extended period of time while I was away in the US Navy, he would sit with her, petting her, until he literally had a red blotch where she was sitting against his chest.
Fortunately a little creme would prevent any serious outbreak. My dad was a really nice person, and responded to an affectionate kitty so very much. This was in the early 1970s, so in the long ago now.