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You are here: Home / Politics / domestic terrorists / Insurrection Open Thread: There Is No Reasoning With These People

Insurrection Open Thread: There Is No Reasoning With These People

by Anne Laurie|  January 7, 202112:15 am| 214 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Goddamned Traitors, GOP Death Cult, Trump Crime Cartel, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up

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45% of Republicans approve of the storming of the Capitol building. https://t.co/th0ldyK1IC pic.twitter.com/JnFFsZ4obo

— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021


Also, a majority of Republicans blame *Joe Biden* for the storming of the Capitol pic.twitter.com/t3ijBDFely

— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021

Got that? Per Republicans, the storming of the Capitol was good and right and done by patriots, but also was somehow that guy Joe Biden's fault

— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021

Trump is a danger to his own country. He shouldn't be president for one more minute. #ImpeachAgain – Now. https://t.co/qUurJ4NEFi via @usatoday

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 6, 2021

I dislike being forced to agree with Tom Nichols, but… “Trump is a danger to his own country. He shouldn’t be president for one more minute”

… First, Trump is an imminent danger to the safety of the country. The Capitol was overrun by a mob at his behest. By late afternoon, Trump had called on the protesters to go home — while telling them that they were indeed right that the election had been stolen, thus pouring more fuel on the flames even while pretending to calm the waters. There is no responsible argument for leaving such a man in command of the armed forces, for leaving the security of the American nation in his hands for one more minute.

Second, even after this attempt at a violent overthrow of the political order is defeated, Trump is not going to stop. He created the situation in the Capitol, and he will gladly create another diversion — perhaps with a last-ditch attempt to use the U.S. military at home or as part of a desperate attempt to embroil America in a foreign conflict — if he thinks it is the only way to protect himself from the legal and financial peril he will face on Jan. 21.

Finally, impeachment for multiple crimes against the Constitution and the American people is the only course left for lawmakers, especially Republicans of the president’s own party, who want to demonstrate their fidelity to the Constitution and protect the supremacy of the rule of law in the United States. The Constitution has to mean something. If the president of the United States goes unpunished after unleashing a mob against elected legislators merely because he wishes to invalidate an election, then this is a far larger problem than a day of protest that got out of hand.

We should never have come to this point. Of course, now that all is lost, born-again constitutionalists like Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (soon to become minority leader) have rediscovered the notion of duty and strict obedience to the Constitution. They are too late, and it is to their shame that they did not act sooner. Trump has made it clear for months, even years, that he would never accept a defeat and that he would never voluntarily leave office. They knew the danger and they chose to take their chances in order to keep their grip on power…

Democrats, whatever the limits of their usual disorganization, have tried for four years to stop Trump from running roughshod over our system of government. Biden ran a campaign that took the high road and called for national unity. They have done their part. Now it is time for the Republicans to do theirs…

Another guy I don’t trust, but he does have a reputation as a competent/skillful lawyer:

This is key. The text is poorly drafted on this point, but when you think about it, it's the only sensible construction. https://t.co/FoZdnFkUHA

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021

Anyway, once Trump objects, the VP and cabinet within the four days can notify Congress that they still think Trump unfit, and that triggers a period during which the VP remains acting president while the Congress decides whether (by a 2/3 vote of both houses) …

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021

Ideally, Congress would sumultaneously proceed with expedited impeachment and removal proceedings that would result in an impeachment conviction that would not only totally remove Trump from office, but—this is the added value—prohibit him from ever holding federal office again.

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:21 am

    I can only hope his military aides have replaced the “nuclear football” with an actual football that has a picture of an atom painted on the side.

  2. 2.

    Cacti

    January 7, 2021 at 12:22 am

    This isn’t something we can just turn the page on.

    Trump needs to be made an example.

    The moment he leaves the White House, he should be in handcuffs for inciting an insurrection against Congress.

  3. 3.

    Anya

    January 7, 2021 at 12:22 am

    I hate these bullshit polls. I blame the pollsters who ask misleading questions.

  4. 4.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 7, 2021 at 12:24 am

    45% of Republicans is what? 15% of voters?

  5. 5.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 7, 2021 at 12:25 am

    Well, there goes my good night’s sleep.

  6. 6.

    mali muso

    January 7, 2021 at 12:25 am

    Headed to bed, this is going on too long for me. Hope I wake up still in a functioning democracy.

  7. 7.

    craigie

    January 7, 2021 at 12:25 am

    I just wrote some sternly-worded letters about all this. That ought to do it.

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:25 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: About that, yeah. 30% R, 30% D, 40% no party/other.

  9. 9.

    Jerzy Russian

    January 7, 2021 at 12:26 am

    @dmsilev:   Perhaps it was an actual nuclear football, filled with radioactive elements of various sorts.  Over time, all of the radiation has melted what is left of Trump’s brain, and here we are today.

  10. 10.

    C Stars

    January 7, 2021 at 12:26 am

    He needs to be removed from office but sadly I think there’s a zero percent chance of that happening. Hopefully I’m wrong. But honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if we see more of these types of actions over the next few weeks.

  11. 11.

    Anya

    January 7, 2021 at 12:27 am

    I am off to bed. See you later in the day.

  12. 12.

    piratedan

    January 7, 2021 at 12:27 am

    we in the process of trying to deal with a global health crisis, global climate crisis and we have multiple bad faith actors who are busy putting their own ambition above all else.

    Like everyone else, I’m afraid that some of us are going to lose faith and start fighting fire with fire, and while I know that this way lies madness and ruin, there’s a very real part of me right now that is fervently in favor of retribution in seeing somebody who has instigated all of this fuckery, pay a price for it

    I’m feeling very Sirius Black right now and I’ve done my waiting in this political Azkaban.

  13. 13.

    MoCA Ace

    January 7, 2021 at 12:28 am

    @dmsilev: I’m pretty sure, per the presidents orders,  the “football” was replaced years ago with a satchel full of KFC and Big Mac’s

  14. 14.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:29 am

    So, if the PA election was so flawed, what is this R from PA doing on the House floor?

  15. 15.

    Al Z.

    January 7, 2021 at 12:29 am

    Blaming Biden is just more circular reasoning from these dimwits. The storming of the capitol is just further evidence that the voter fraud was “real”/

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 7, 2021 at 12:29 am

    @Jerzy Russian: maybe they could (still) give him one of those football phones, and tell him the keypad is where he types the launch codes

  17. 17.

    rikyrah

    January 7, 2021 at 12:29 am

    @Cacti:

    ????

  18. 18.

    jonas

    January 7, 2021 at 12:30 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Too many in any case.

  19. 19.

    Redshift

    January 7, 2021 at 12:30 am

    Technically, it’s an (optional) additional vote after the impeachment conviction that bars him from ever holding office again, rather than it being inherent in impeachment.

    (Autocorrect wanted to make “impeachment” “impalement,” and I can’t disagree…)

  20. 20.

    hervevillechaizelounge

    January 7, 2021 at 12:30 am

    Would 45% of republicans approve if the insurgents had been of the dusky persuasion? How many drops of melanin before “Lawn Order” is automatically invoked?

  21. 21.

    jonas

    January 7, 2021 at 12:31 am

    @dmsilev: Only Democrats cast fraudulent votes, you see. All votes cast for Republicans can’t be reversed by Dominion’s Soros-controlled algorithms. It’s math, or something.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    January 7, 2021 at 12:31 am

    No

    We are not making nice with them

  23. 23.

    Redshift

    January 7, 2021 at 12:32 am

    @dmsilev: That’s the biggest tell that they all know it’s a con “the presidential election was invalid, but my election on the same ballot was just fine.”

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:33 am

    “It’s one thing to Tweet a belief. It’s another to provide actual evidence.”

    Words to live by.

  25. 25.

    scav

    January 7, 2021 at 12:33 am

    @Cacti:  Not just Trump — there are a shitload of enablers that need a record of their deeds branded onto their faces. Not only so we can see them coming, but also so that they have to remember just who they are every time they stare in a mirror.

  26. 26.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 12:33 am

    The two houses have separated to consider the objection to the Pennsylvania results.

    ‘Objections to the results in Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada could not be considered because no Senator joined in the objections put forth by House members.

  27. 27.

    Felanius Kootea

    January 7, 2021 at 12:34 am

    A poll on who supports an attempted coup.  How nice.

  28. 28.

    MMM

    January 7, 2021 at 12:38 am

    Actually based on my Republican fb friends, I would say it is about 90% support (I note this is not scientific at all). But I do offer thoughts and prayers.

  29. 29.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    January 7, 2021 at 12:42 am

    Video Shows Newly Elected W.Va. Lawmaker Among Mob That Stormed The U.S. Capitol

    Del. Derrick Evans, a Republican from Wayne County, W.Va., won his first term as a state lawmaker in the November election and was sworn in last month. Video streaming on his Facebook page throughout the day showed him on the Capitol grounds and just outside the building.

    The video that shows Evans entering the Capitol was later deleted, though not before multiple social media users made and shared copies of it.

    h/t https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/06/954227854/video-shows-newly-elected-w-va-lawmaker-among-mob-that-stormed-the-u-s-capitol

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 12:43 am

    Anyway, once Trump objects, the VP and cabinet within the four days can notify Congress that they still think Trump unfit, [etc.]

    Dolt 45 would immediately fire all or most of the cabinet the moment the letter of objection is transmitted and replace them with even flunkier flunkies.

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 12:44 am

    Senate took all of about ten minutes to vote down the objection, 92-7.

  32. 32.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:44 am

    @burnspbesq: House is still talking.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 12:46 am

    What was the final Senate tally on Pennsylvania (if it was a roll call vote)?

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 12:48 am

    nvm. @burnspbesq got there whilst your truly was typing.

  35. 35.

    Kattails

    January 7, 2021 at 12:51 am

    Meidas Touch has a video up and a petition for both impeachment and 25th amendment.

  36. 36.

    Calouste

    January 7, 2021 at 12:52 am

    @NotMax: Doesn’t work, because they won’t be confirmed, which leaves Pence as the only one with a vote.

  37. 37.

    Calouste

    January 7, 2021 at 12:54 am

    @burnspbesq: Rick Scott makes the Seditious Six into the Seditious Seven.

  38. 38.

    Cacti

    January 7, 2021 at 12:55 am

    “Lindsey Graham’s rejection of Trump tonight has all the integrity of a drug dealer flushing meth down the toilet.”

    -Andy Borowitz

    Pure poetry.

  39. 39.

    Ms. Deranged in AZ

    January 7, 2021 at 12:57 am

    @Cacti: I would have added “…as the cops kicked in his front door.”

  40. 40.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 12:58 am

    This woman from Georgia spews a steady stream of gibberish.

  41. 41.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 12:58 am

    @Calouste

    All the 25th Amendment calls for is the heads of executive departments. It’s silent as to whether they must have been confirmed for the post. The text:

    Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide….

    An Acting Secretary is by dint of the position the principal officer.

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 12:59 am

    @L85NJGT: You will no doubt be shocked to learn she’s a Qanon nut.

  43. 43.

    Cacti

    January 7, 2021 at 1:00 am

    I wonder…

    After leaving the Senate, could anyone else see Kelly Loeffler taking up the hobby of making coats from Dalmatian puppies?

  44. 44.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 1:00 am

    Pence chief of staff Marc Short won’t comment when we asked him in the Capitol whether Trump has banned him from the WH

    sounds like a yes.

  45. 45.

    dmsilev

    January 7, 2021 at 1:02 am

    Enough. I’m out. Try not to enable any more coups overnight.

  46. 46.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:03 am

    The minor leaguers speaking late for the Republicans are terrible. The Dem bench is deep.

  47. 47.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 1:04 am

    @dmsilev:

    A true believer. The rest come off as con artists and crooks running a number on the rubes.

  48. 48.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:05 am

    McConnell announces the next time the Senate will hold a regular session after tonight is Jan. 19— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) January 7, 2021

    Brave Sir McConnell runs away.

  49. 49.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 1:06 am

    Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming said she couldn’t believe the rioters violently storming the US Capitol could be “Trump supporters.”

     

    “I hope it’s not Trump supporters that are involved in the mayhem,” Lummis told a reporter as they were escorted to a safe location, according to a pool report. “It seems like other forces like antifa were advocating violence.”

     

    As Lummis was escorted out, the senator told the reporter that in her “previous experience with Trump supporters they have been peaceful demonstrators, happy people, very patriotic, pro-America,” she said. “So now if that has changed, I will be heartbroken.”

  50. 50.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 1:07 am

    @Mary G

    Leaving Warnock and Ossoff out in the cold.

  51. 51.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:07 am

    In other news, per WaPo a record number of Americans were reported dead of Covid19 today.

  52. 52.

    Kent

    January 7, 2021 at 1:10 am

    @Redshift:@dmsilev: That’s the biggest tell that they all know it’s a con “the presidential election was invalid, but my election on the same ballot was just fine.”

    It’s worse than that.  If the PA election was invalid, then there is no state legislature in PA to take action and certify the win for Trump.  100% of the House and 33% of the Senate don’t exist.  They are just uncertified pretenders.  We will need to wait for new elections in PA to convene a state legislature.

  53. 53.

    Mike in NC

    January 7, 2021 at 1:11 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Trump never met Mike Pence and couldn’t pick him out in a lineup.

  54. 54.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 1:11 am

    Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland, or any Federal Buildings in any of our Cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently re-enacted Statues & Monuments Act. MINIMUM TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Don’t do it! @DHSgov

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 27, 2020

    that was for graffiti  — there’s always a tweet

  55. 55.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:12 am

    BREAKING: Deputy nat sec adviser Matt Pottinger resigned Wednesday afternoon. Pottinger among WH officials dismayed by protesters' attack and Trump's role in inciting violence. Pottinger had intended to resign election day, regardless of outcome, but stayed at O'Brien's request.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) January 7, 2021

  56. 56.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 1:12 am

    @Mary G:

    There is a “it was either this or used car sales” vibe to their backbenchers.

  57. 57.

    patrick II

    January 7, 2021 at 1:13 am

    @Mary G:

    After watching that maskless crowd at the Capitol today, there will be more joining them in a few weeks.  But I guess if you are doing insurrection going without a mask in the Capitol is fairly low on the crime scale.

  58. 58.

    Llelldorin

    January 7, 2021 at 1:13 am

    So half of Trump supporters are, in fact, in a basket of deplorables?

    How many times has Clinton been proved right by now?

  59. 59.

    PIGL

    January 7, 2021 at 1:14 am

    @L85NJGT: you saying this woman from Georgia,  didn’t feel just right?

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 1:18 am

    @L85NJGT

    either this or used car sales

    Luckily for us, Fitz is Canadian.

    :)

  61. 61.

    Inventor

    January 7, 2021 at 1:19 am

    @NotMax: 7-92

  62. 62.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 7, 2021 at 1:19 am

    @Llelldorin: A Cassandra for our times.

  63. 63.

    Debbie(Aussie)

    January 7, 2021 at 1:22 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: 
    Most likely 27%. Just a guess?

  64. 64.

    Feathers

    January 7, 2021 at 1:22 am

    @L85NJGT: As John Rogers (of Leverage and 27% crazification factor) says, most Members of Congress are at about the level of the second smartest car dealer in their district.

  65. 65.

    Martin

    January 7, 2021 at 1:24 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Sounds like we know who’s been doing some 25A legwork.

  66. 66.

    Bill Arnold

    January 7, 2021 at 1:24 am

    And yet the Capital Police were not ready:
    The Rioters Who Took Over The Capitol Have Been Planning Online In The Open For Weeks – The mob that forced Congress to flee organized on both obscure and mainstream sites. (BuzzFeed, Jane Lytvynenko, Molly Hensley-Clancy, January 6, 2021)

    The supporters of President Donald Trump who rioted in the US Capitol building on Wednesday had been openly planning for weeks on both mainstream social media and the pro-Trump internet. On forums like TheDonald, a niche website formed after Reddit banned the subreddit of the same name, they promised violence against lawmakers, police, and journalists if Congress did not reject the results of the 2020 election.
    …
    On pro-Trump social media website Parler, chat app Telegram, and other corners of the the far-right internet, people discussed the Capitol Hill rally at which Trump spoke as the catalyst for a violent insurrection. They have been using those forums to plan an uprising in plain sight, one that they executed Wednesday afternoon, forcing Congress to flee its chambers as it met to certify the results of the election.

  67. 67.

    Cacti

    January 7, 2021 at 1:26 am

    @Bill Arnold: We know now that white supremacists have been burrowing into police departments for years.

    When the dust settles, I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the coup plotters had moles in the Capitol Police.

  68. 68.

    Fair Economist

    January 7, 2021 at 1:27 am

    @Mary G:

    McConnell announces the next time the Senate will hold a regular session after tonight is Jan. 19— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) January 7, 2021

    Must be a lot of support for impeachment to need to block Senate activity.

  69. 69.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 7, 2021 at 1:29 am

    @Fair Economist: So he’s basically going to not swear in Warnock/Ossoff so he can maintain Majority Leader as long as possible.

    Not surprising. About the low-grade sedition I expect from Mitch McConnell.

  70. 70.

    Viva BrisVegas

    January 7, 2021 at 1:32 am

    @Llelldorin: Clinton said half of these mouthbreathers were deplorable. She forgot to tell us the other half were traitorous.

  71. 71.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 1:32 am

    @Fair Economist:

    Make Pence do it. Truly profiles in courage.

  72. 72.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 1:36 am

    The aroma of the objectors’ bullshit argument is not dissipated by repetition.

  73. 73.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 1:46 am

    Can someone on Twitter tell Rick Wilson he’s a fascist shitstain who sold his soul long ago?

    It's cute that Lindsey thinks he gets his soul back.Wrong.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 7, 2021

  74. 74.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:47 am

    I don’t know who the young gentleman from Pennsylvania, I think, that is speaking now is, but he called Republican representatives liars and said the police used kid gloves on the mob because they were white, which has the bigots all riled up and offended and said  “The truth hurts.” I like him.

  75. 75.

    Chetan Murthy

    January 7, 2021 at 1:48 am

    @Mary G: Conor Lamb, apparently.

  76. 76.

    Kent

    January 7, 2021 at 1:48 am

    @MisterForkbeard:

    @Fair Economist: So he’s basically going to not swear in Warnock/Ossoff so he can maintain Majority Leader as long as possible.

    Not surprising. About the low-grade sedition I expect from Mitch McConnell.

    Swearing in Ossoff wouldn’t affect his majority status until Kamala Harris is sworn in as VP on the 20th.  Until Jan 20 the Senate stays in GOP hands anyway because Trump is the tie breaker.

  77. 77.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:52 am

    A West Virginia legislator streamed, then deleted, video of himself storming the capitol https://t.co/oPlBVQVKdO— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 7, 2021

    Some of these idiots don’t seem to get the concept of screen caps.

  78. 78.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 1:53 am

    @Chetan Murthy: I thought we might get a fist fight, which he would’ve won.

    ETA: Evidently a separate beef on the sidelines also arose:

    And in the House chamber, we almost had a fist fight break out.

    I believe it was Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) and Colin Allred (D-Texas).

    Harris was shouting “He called me a liar!”
    — Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) January 7, 2021

  79. 79.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 1:56 am

    Trump is a danger to his own our country.

    FTFY Tommy.  It’s not his country.  His country is more Russian and more fascist.

  80. 80.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 1:58 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Clarification – Rick Wilson is a fascist shitstain who sold his soul long ago, but Graham is too.

  81. 81.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 2:01 am

    British TV got better film than any American network:

    This ⁦@itvnews⁩ report shows some shocking scenes from inside the Capitol – haven’t seen this footage on any American news network pic.twitter.com/bZoZxg3Dhp— Cyrus Sanati (@BeyondBlunt) January 7, 2021

  82. 82.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    January 7, 2021 at 2:02 am

    @Kent:

    Until Jan 20 the Senate stays in GOP hands anyway because Trump is the tie breaker.

    Pence, not Trump. But the point is the same.

    @Bill Arnold:

    And yet the Capital Police were not ready:
    The Rioters Who Took Over The Capitol Have Been Planning Online In The Open For Weeks – The mob that forced Congress to flee organized on both obscure and mainstream sites. (BuzzFeed, Jane Lytvynenko, Molly Hensley-Clancy, January 6, 2021)

    Not ready, or simply not interested in stopping it? Terrifying though it is to think, some police have evidently been photographed with the terrorists – I’m not sure if we’re talking DC or Capitol police though. In any case, there needs to be a top-to-bottom reckoning of the Capitol police in order to determine how yesterday’s events occurred.

    Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.

  83. 83.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 2:03 am

    2am – we about done here?

  84. 84.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 2:04 am

    It’s all so surreal. This guy didn’t just loot Pelosi’s office, he spoke on record to the NYT about it and gave them his full name and age https://t.co/SMAHQPjHus pic.twitter.com/XpgWbGUWxq— Tom Gara (@tomgara) January 7, 2021

  85. 85.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 2:04 am

    @L85NJGT: Done with what – dancing the GOP’s grave?

  86. 86.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 2:07 am

    @Mary G: OMG!  So he can get arrested in the comfort of his mom’s basement?

  87. 87.

    TriassicSands

    January 7, 2021 at 2:09 am

    @Cacti:

    No more golf with Trump for Graham. He is now tied with approximately 172 million people as Trump’s personal enemy number one.

    It won’t happen, but it would be interesting to see how many Republican senators would vote to convict Trump — 4? 5? Could it reach double figures? Naah. Really, there would only be one definite vote to convict.

  88. 88.

    Original Lee

    January 7, 2021 at 2:09 am

    Jeez, who is the asshole saying that millions of people went unheard while his mask is falling down?

  89. 89.

    Kent

    January 7, 2021 at 2:12 am

    @Mary G: Former NFL linebacker Colin Allred?   Yes, I think he would have won.  He would have squashed that lying MAGA twerp like a bug.

  90. 90.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 7, 2021 at 2:17 am

    @L85NJGT: might have the House vote around 2:30-3:00, back in joint session till maybe 3:30

  91. 91.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    January 7, 2021 at 2:19 am

    The Prime Minister of Greece appears to have more faith in America than me:

    Extremely troubled by the violence and horrible events taking place in Washington D.C. American democracy is resilient, deeply rooted and will overcome this crisis.— Prime Minister GR (@PrimeministerGR) January 6, 2021

  92. 92.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 2:24 am

    55 percent of GOPers don’t approve and 1/3 don’t blame Biden. Just need to peel off a few percent of them and some independents, and the GOP has some more electoral problems. Abrams and her GA allies have energized the Dem voters.

  93. 93.

    Royston Vasey

    January 7, 2021 at 2:26 am

    Your country seems to be well and truly f*cked.

     

    RV in NZ

  94. 94.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 7, 2021 at 2:29 am

    Debate over in the House, voting beginning. Very good final speech by Jamie Raskin.

  95. 95.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 2:29 am

    @Mary G: White privilege

  96. 96.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 2:30 am

    @(((CassandraLeo))): I think there are a lot of moving pieces. The Capitol Police don’t do all the intelligence themselves. If someone knew what the rioters were planning and how many, why no back-up? Several agencies have to answer some questions besides the CP.

  97. 97.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 2:30 am

    The House is now voting on the objection to Pennsylvania. Should take about 20-25 minutes.

  98. 98.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 2:31 am

    @Royston Vasey: Don’t give up on us yet;

    “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.”

  99. 99.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 2:32 am

    @Royston Vasey: Thanks, but we already knew that. We’re working on it. Be like new after it’s out of the shop.

  100. 100.

    trollhattan

    January 7, 2021 at 2:32 am

    @Llelldorin:

    All the times.

    The treatment of Hillary Clinton will fester in history as one of America’s more shameful chapters.

  101. 101.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 7, 2021 at 2:33 am

    @Kent: A fair point.

  102. 102.

    DMcK

    January 7, 2021 at 2:38 am

    Y’know what I just don’t get at all? The “It was an ANTIFA False Flag op!” theorists. I understand the FF thing in the context of our nation’s celebrated cultural tradition of random mass shootings, but in this case, wouldn’t the actual insurrectionists take umbrage at this framing of events? I mean, a brave/insane woman gave her life for the cause and everything! The contorted, conflicted intricacies of the deeply committed Q-MAGA mind elude me, probably because I’m not in dire need of psychiatric intervention.

    Also, quite uncomfortable with HOPING these vile traitors wind up in prison, but knowing that it’s not at all a certainty.

  103. 103.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 2:42 am

    I saw more arrests during protests in Minneapolis this summer than I have watching people storm the US Capitol.

    — Omar Jimenez (@OmarJimenez) January 6, 2021

     

    Jimenez is a CNN reporter

  104. 104.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 2:46 am

    Voting is continuing, but 218 no votes are already recorded. It’s done.

  105. 105.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 2:48 am

    @DMcK:

    Deal goes bad -> time to blameshift.

  106. 106.

    piratedan

    January 7, 2021 at 2:51 am

    is guessing that there will be better security at the WFT playoff game Saturday night than there was at the Capitol yesterday.

  107. 107.

    TriassicSands

    January 7, 2021 at 2:55 am

    @Mary G:

    He sounds like your typical 60-year-old five-year-old. Or is it five-year-old sixty-year-old?

  108. 108.

    piratedan

    January 7, 2021 at 2:55 am

    @DMcK: and say we take that at face value, say that there were “bad” ANTIFA actors embedded in the MOB, did any of our patriots attempt to STOP them?  After all, aren’t they the super-patriots, weren’t they armed?  couldn’t have they been working with the authorities to ensure that their peaceful demonstration wasn’t tainted?

    its the same tired schtick where these guys take zero responsibility for ANYTHING and anyone else, everyone else is to blame… while they try and make America great again… so sad, so tragic….

  109. 109.

    TS (the original)

    January 7, 2021 at 2:58 am

    Sick of NBC replaying the wonder of Lindsey Graham ( & McConnell)

    How about the wonder of Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and those who support democracy

  110. 110.

    TriassicSands

    January 7, 2021 at 3:00 am

    @piratedan:

    America, always ready to be unprepared.

    But in fairness, who could ever have imagined there might be trouble at the Capitol yesterday? (Answer: apparently everyone who wasn’t involved it Capitol security. And no one who was.)

  111. 111.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 3:05 am

    @TS (the original): Corporate media can’t let go of their beloved serious responsible daddy GOP, which sadly passed away years ago, after being on life support, brain dead, for decades.

  112. 112.

    Kent

    January 7, 2021 at 3:06 am

    @burnspbesq:Voting is continuing, but 218 no votes are already recorded. It’s done.

    It was already done 2 hours ago when the Senate voted it down. This is just pointless time wasting by the House GOP on a meaningless vote for a motion that already failed.

  113. 113.

    Ninedragonspot

    January 7, 2021 at 3:07 am

    @DMcK: I think the “It wuz the Antifa what done it” schtick is an offshoot of the Stupid Reichstag plan: spark violence, blame Antifa, impose martial law.

  114. 114.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 3:08 am

    Why do they even bother to show a countdown clocks on votes? It sits at 00:00 forever, just leave it off.

  115. 115.

    TS (the original)

    January 7, 2021 at 3:11 am

    @Kent:

    And why do they take so long to vote?

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 3:14 am

    @TS (the original)

    COVID rules. Only allowed in about 50 at a time to vote, and have to wait for enough to clear the floor for the next group to enter.

  117. 117.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 3:15 am

    @Ninedragonspot: Hitler’s goons knew enough to not do the job in broad daylight and do media interviews as the crime was in progress at the scene.

  118. 118.

    TS (the original)

    January 7, 2021 at 3:17 am

    @NotMax:

    Thanks – I didn’t notice they were much faster before covid

  119. 119.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 3:18 am

    Final count is 138-282.

  120. 120.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 7, 2021 at 3:18 am

    House kabuki done. Senate being called in to finish the certification of states. Unless Hawley decides to object to Wyoming or something.

  121. 121.

    SoupCatcher

    January 7, 2021 at 3:21 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Just need to get to Vermont, I think.

  122. 122.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 3:21 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Giuliani on some Senator’s phone, on speaker, asking if any states that start with x, y, or z?

  123. 123.

    CarolDuhart2

    January 7, 2021 at 3:22 am

    @jl: And that’s another thing.  The Republicans rely on Democratic apathy in the midterms for gains.  But remember in 1936 the Republicans lost seats.  We are engaged, probably enraged, for life now.  No holding back, no lying low.  Sure, some people will be exhausted and drop out from time to time-that’s understandable.  But nobody is saying give up on our side.  We want-and need democracy to function as a nation, let alone, people.

  124. 124.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 3:28 am

    Would be nice if the clerk of the House pronounced electoral correctly.

    Electorial. Every time.

  125. 125.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 3:29 am

    Final lap, I hope. Up to South Carolina. I’m in awe of Nancy SMASH’s stamina. She’s been on her feet in high heels for hours and didn’t even sit down during the break.

  126. 126.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 3:31 am

    @Mary G

    She has changed outfits from earlier on Wednesday.

  127. 127.

    lgerard

    January 7, 2021 at 3:33 am

    HOORAY!

  128. 128.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 3:33 am

    @CarolDuhart2: I think Dems are energized, more confident that they can win, get their turnout up, and win over some salvageable Rs and Is with an honest pitch of truth.

  129. 129.

    Chyron HR

    January 7, 2021 at 3:37 am

    “Republicans are still behind Trump all the way but we must impeach him now because the GOP will totally convict him this time.”  Well, okay then.

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 3:38 am

    And… objection to Wisconsin, but senator has withdrawn name from the objection.

  131. 131.

    Felanius Kootea

    January 7, 2021 at 3:40 am

    Woohoo – Klobuchar announces that Biden and Harris will be president and vice-president.

  132. 132.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 3:41 am

    306-232

    Trump is gonna pop a gasket.

  133. 133.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 3:41 am

    And there it is.

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    January 7, 2021 at 3:42 am

    Final numbers.

    Phew. Glad I didn’t read any spoilers beforehand.

  135. 135.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 3:46 am

    4 deaths?

  136. 136.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 3:47 am

    @NotMax: And masks, of course.

  137. 137.

    Kent

    January 7, 2021 at 3:47 am

    I learned a new word today….

    “therefrom”

  138. 138.

    The Thin Black Duke

    January 7, 2021 at 3:48 am

    Remember, as bad as it is now, it would have been much, much worse if Warnock and Ossoff lost.

  139. 139.

    prostratedragon

    January 7, 2021 at 3:48 am

    Whew!

    Badly as I want to see the First Seditionist dealt with, this was a better thing to take care of right now.

  140. 140.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 7, 2021 at 3:48 am

    Off to sleep. Good night, jackals. There’s still plenty to worry about, especially over the next 13 days 8 hours and 11 minutes. Let’s try to enjoy tonight’s milestone for a few minutes before starting the next phase of fretting.

  141. 141.

    prostratedragon

    January 7, 2021 at 3:50 am

    @Baud: Yes, I heard that there were three others who were described as “medical emergencies” or something, in addition to the woman who was shot. Heart attacks, bad reaction to the gas?

  142. 142.

    burnspbesq

    January 7, 2021 at 3:50 am

    It’s all over. No Senator objected to the Wisconsin vote.

    Joe and Kamala are elected, for the term beginning 1/20/21.

  143. 143.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 7, 2021 at 3:50 am

    @L85NJGT: Really bad timing as he’s lost his tweeting privileges.

  144. 144.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 3:51 am

    @prostratedragon:

    Thanks.

  145. 145.

    prostratedragon

    January 7, 2021 at 3:51 am

    Every one of about 1152530 seconds to go.

  146. 146.

    jl

    January 7, 2021 at 3:52 am

    @Baud: I heard news report that there were 3 deaths due to medical emergencies. Maybe heart attacks, etc.?

  147. 147.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 3:56 am

    Trump statement.  Not written by Trump.  Says there will be an orderly transition on Jan 20.

  148. 148.

    Edmund Dantes

    January 7, 2021 at 3:56 am

    @jl: 

    One rumor is one of the insurrectionist shot themselves with their own taser and suffered cardiac arrest.

  149. 149.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 4:00 am

    @The Thin Black Duke: 

    Remember, as bad as it is now, it would have been much, much worse if Warnock and Ossoff lost.

    Yes. McFascist no longer being majority leader makes so much possible.

  150. 150.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 4:03 am

    @Baud: And state charges on the 21st if AGs want to make this shitpile crime family lay awake all night.

  151. 151.

    NickM

    January 7, 2021 at 4:04 am

    NPR reporting Trump conceded that Biden will be President Jan 20 and there will be an orderly transition.

  152. 152.

    raven

    January 7, 2021 at 4:04 am

    CNN)President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he would leave office on January 20 for the first time Thursday, pledging an orderly transfer of power after Congress affirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s Electoral College win.

  153. 153.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 4:05 am

    @Edmund Dantes:

    shot themselves with their own taser 

    How is that even

    Fuck it.  I don’t care.

  154. 154.

    dc

    January 7, 2021 at 4:07 am

    @NickM: Must have received orders from Putin. And/or he was presented with the real possibility of Pence and enough cabinet heads to boot him using 25th amendment.

  155. 155.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 7, 2021 at 4:08 am

    @raven: Funny.  There already hasn’t been an orderly transfer of power, but whatever CNN.  May someone drop 1000000 Dump podiums on you all.

  156. 156.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 4:11 am

    Highlight of the evening? Pence putting a dutiful end to his own political career. Though Senator Graham’s complete lack of shame was a close second.

    @raven:

    Right. The day he finally became president. His choices today yesterday would indicate otherwise, but the MSM just can’t help themselves.

  157. 157.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    January 7, 2021 at 4:11 am

     

    @raven:

    CNN: President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he would leave office on January 20 for the first time Thursday, pledging an orderly transfer of power after Congress affirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s Electoral College win.

    Now I’m worried. A “pledge” from Trump is a sure sign he intends to do the opposite.

  158. 158.

    matt the somewhat reasonable

    January 7, 2021 at 4:11 am

    Well, now we’ve found out what it takes to get some Republicans to break with Trump.

  159. 159.

    prostratedragon

    January 7, 2021 at 4:12 am

    IL Gov. JB Pritzker joins the call for impeachment and removal.

  160. 160.

    NickM

    January 7, 2021 at 4:13 am

    I’ve read a bunch of articles but none has the answer- when are Ossoff and Warnock sworn in?

  161. 161.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 4:15 am

    @NickM:

    After their wins are certified by the state.  They are still receiving military ballots until Friday.

  162. 162.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 4:17 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche:

    Any trigger will do. Let’s all just ignore that the man is delusional.

  163. 163.

    Mary G

    January 7, 2021 at 4:18 am

    And you thought "Taking A Knee" was too much!?!— NAACP (@NAACP) January 6, 2021

  164. 164.

    Sloegin

    January 7, 2021 at 4:18 am

    13 long days left.

  165. 165.

    matt the somewhat reasonable

    January 7, 2021 at 4:18 am

    @Mary G: Remember, when white people do it it’s ‘finding’.

  166. 166.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 4:19 am

    @Baud:

    In any event, it only matters for seniority purposes until Kamala is sworn in.

  167. 167.

    Jesse

    January 7, 2021 at 4:19 am

    @Baud: “Overseas ballot” is the right word. I’m an American abroad, non-military, and it irritates me to no end to be lumped in with the military. Most Americans abroad aren’t military.

  168. 168.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 7, 2021 at 4:22 am

    Trump became president yesterday.

  169. 169.

    L85NJGT

    January 7, 2021 at 4:23 am

    @Jesse:

    And Jon Ossoff got better than 2/3 of Hispanic voters, but we like our narratives.

  170. 170.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 4:26 am

    @Sloegin: 
    Twitter should leave ita ban in place. That’ll make it easier.

  171. 171.

    Bruuuuce

    January 7, 2021 at 4:29 am

    @mrmoshpotato:  Why wait until the 21st, when 12:01 PM on January 20 will do?

  172. 172.

    Shalimar

    January 7, 2021 at 4:46 am

    @Redshift: “The Democrat algorithm created enough extra votes to steal the election from President Trump, but they didn’t use this magic power to create enough votes to beat me.” – Republican Congressperson

  173. 173.

    sanjeevs

    January 7, 2021 at 4:54 am

    I sure hope this means Merrick Garland won’t be AG. Fuck that.

  174. 174.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 7, 2021 at 4:58 am

    @Shalimar: DemocRats are really good at the cyber.

  175. 175.

    oclib

    January 7, 2021 at 5:00 am

    @NickM:

    I’m going to go out on a limb and assume that Senators-elect Ossoff and Warnock might want to be sworn in by Madam VP Kamala Harris sometime on the afternoon of the 20th

  176. 176.

    Amir Khalid

    January 7, 2021 at 5:01 am

    Have there been any reports of similar insurrections at state capitols around the US?

  177. 177.

    oclib

    January 7, 2021 at 5:10 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    yes

    https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/06/954124446/states-also-see-protests-and-angry-responses-to-d-c-violence

  178. 178.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 7, 2021 at 5:14 am

    @Amir Khalid: Yes, but apparently the press can’t walk and chew bubble gum at the same time so not much details.

  179. 179.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 5:19 am

    @sanjeevs:

    Garland will be AG.  But I’m glad you’re focusing in the most salient issue coming out of yesterday’s events.

  180. 180.

    JPL

    January 7, 2021 at 5:20 am

    The president wants an orderly transfer of power, so does that mean Lindsay goes back and kisses his ass again?

  181. 181.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 7, 2021 at 5:23 am

    @L85NJGT: Pence putting a dutiful end to his own political career

    Maybe, remember these clowns don’t vote except when it’s Trump as Georgia showed and they have the memory of goldfish.

  182. 182.

    DMcK

    January 7, 2021 at 5:28 am

    @JPL:  “The President” is whomever is still around, scrambling desperately to avoid criminal legal exposure. Trump himself will stick to his guns and never concede defeat, and his cultists will follow suit.

  183. 183.

    Brachiator

    January 7, 2021 at 5:30 am

    @raven:

    CNN)President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he would leave office on January 20 for the first time Thursday, pledging an orderly transfer of power after Congress affirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s Electoral College win.

    I don’t know that Trump can behave himself for 14 days.

  184. 184.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 5:33 am

    @Brachiator:

    I do wonder whether the 25th amendment threat was communicated to Trump. Pence is an awful person, but looks like a patriot compared to Trump.

  185. 185.

    JPL

    January 7, 2021 at 5:34 am

    @Brachiator:  First they came for …   Since the president is calling for an orderly transfer, all will be forgiven.

    f.k that

  186. 186.

    Amir Khalid

    January 7, 2021 at 5:34 am

    @JPL:

    The president wants an orderly transfer of power

    Two words: yeah and right.

  187. 187.

    Martin

    January 7, 2021 at 5:41 am

    @raven: Trump didn’t acknowledge shit. He didn’t write that. His staff are trying to box him in.

  188. 188.

    JPL

    January 7, 2021 at 5:47 am

    @Martin: Kevin McCarthy won’t care who wrote it.   Mitch won’t care, neither will Lindsay.   They will all return to praising their dear fking leader.

  189. 189.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 7, 2021 at 6:17 am

    Whoa! Joe S. just dropped a huge F-bomb, and didn’t get bleeped or seven-second delayed!

  190. 190.

    Martin

    January 7, 2021 at 6:18 am

    Ok, I can’t stand Morning Joe, but he’s having a righteous rant this morning. Screaming at the Capitol Police “and you open the fucking door for them!”. Calling for Trump to be arrested today.

    Seriously, check it out – it’ll be plastered everywhere.

  191. 191.

    raven

    January 7, 2021 at 6:18 am

    Morning Joe “YOU OPENED THE FUCKING DOOR FOR THEM”.

  192. 192.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 6:22 am

    Law enforcement officials across the U.S. shocked by police failure to stop Capitol invasion

  193. 193.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:37 am

    Trump needs to go. Today or tomorrow.

  194. 194.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:39 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:  You got me to look.

    Mia is ranting.  But:  that fucker helped normalize Trump and get him elected.

    It’s going to be entertaining infuriating to see the “shocked, shocked” people.

  195. 195.

    raven

    January 7, 2021 at 6:39 am

    Woman killed was a fucking Trump nut job.

    Woman fatally shot as pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol identified as Air Force veteran

    “Babbitt wrote: “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!””

  196. 196.

    KSinMA

    January 7, 2021 at 6:40 am

    @mrmoshpotato:
    “There already hasn’t been an orderly transfer of power”:
    Excellent point.

  197. 197.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:41 am

    @raven:   Yep. And an Air Force vet.

    We need to de-lunaticize our armed forces and police.  They’re burrowed in.

  198. 198.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:42 am

    Incidentally:  has brave Mike Pompeo had anything to say about any of this?

    Also:  Mattis needs to name names.

  199. 199.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 6:45 am

    @raven:

    “Babbitt wrote: “Nothing will stop us

     

    She was stopped.

  200. 200.

    satby

    January 7, 2021 at 6:48 am

    @raven: So, in violation of her oath to protect the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic” as well as a seditious mob participant. Hmm.

  201. 201.

    raven

    January 7, 2021 at 6:48 am

    WASHINGTON — Meet Jake Angeli, the Trump supporter who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday with his face painted, bare-bodied and wearing a fur headdress with black buffalo horns. 

    Angeli is a 33-year-old QAnon supporter, who was spotted last year at various right-wing political rallies in Arizona. Last February, he protested outside the Arizona State Capitol during a pro-Trump rally with a sign that read, “Q Sent Me.”

  202. 202.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:52 am

    @raven:   from your article:

    On social media, Babbitt recorded combative videos about immigration policy, while expressing her support for a border wall. In early September, she tweeted a picture from a Trump boat parade in San Diego wearing a shirt that said, “We are Q,” referring to QAnon, the far-right conspiracy theory. The tweet also included the hashtag “#WWG1WGA,” an acronym used by supporters who believe in the claims that Trump was battling a group of “deep state” child abusers.

    Babbitt also retweeted messages calling for Vice President Pence to resign and be charged with treason, videos of Trump rallies and photos of the president’s supporters flying to D.C. for the protests.

    In one of her final posts, she responded to a tweet saying that many flights to D.C. were canceled because of weather. “The entire world is corrupt,” the person said.

    In response, Babbitt wrote: “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!”

  203. 203.

    sanjeevs

    January 7, 2021 at 6:52 am

    @Baud: it is. This doesn’t stop until Republicans face the same consequences for lawbreaking as everyone else.  Comey2.0 won’t do that.

  204. 204.

    Baud

    January 7, 2021 at 6:58 am

    @sanjeevs:

    Well, if your first reaction to all this is to predict how Dems will fail next, we’re fighting different fights.

  205. 205.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 6:59 am

    I’m curious:  did any of you get to see or hear the full video message from Trump, wherein he raved about the stolen “landslide” election and told the insurrectionists “he loved them.”  Three times?

    I heard it while driving, on NPR, and they cut it off once he went into his second rant about the stolen election.  He also talked about bad, terrible people, whom he did not name.

    In Richmond VA, the local CBS station used about 20 seconds of the video, wherein Trump told the insurrectionists to “go home.”  And he did say that, but with huge emphasis on that Trump wanted to protect them, and law enforcement.

    Did you guys get to see/hear that?  Very possible it wasn’t broadcast much, to stop Trump from continuing to foment.

  206. 206.

    germy

    January 7, 2021 at 7:03 am

    Friend just texted me, horrified, after realizing that her ex was a part of the violent mob in the Capitol today. He’s a well-spoken West Point grad w/an MBA who lives in Navy Yard and works as a bizdev exec. We’ve gone on double dates. These terrorists are hiding in plain sight.— Claire Chu (@ClaireJChu) January 7, 2021

    A guy who wears Bonobo suits and played on his Bethesda high school lacrosse team can be a terrorist just as easily as a guy wearing a MAGA hat and building a bunker in the hills. I don’t really have a more eloquent point to make here.— Claire Chu (@ClaireJChu) January 7, 2021

  207. 207.

    p.a

    January 7, 2021 at 7:03 am

    Well thank FSM for Ivanka’s moderating influence!

  208. 208.

    germy

    January 7, 2021 at 7:10 am

    And this motherfucker needs to go to jail, not Washington. Newly elected? Then Un-elect him.

    Well here’s Derrick Evans telling on himself for committing treason in case you need proof @SpeakerHanshaw https://t.co/nAEQwyx4rs— Dr. Sydnee McElroy ??? (@sydneemcelroy) January 6, 2021

  209. 209.

    Elizabelle

    January 7, 2021 at 7:12 am

    Anne just put up the morning thread.

  210. 210.

    H.E.Wolf

    January 7, 2021 at 7:35 am

    @germy: Derrick Evans is a Republican member of the WV House of Delegates.

    As is frequently the case with far-right nutcases, he has a history of misogynist behavior. Per the Washington Post:

    Evans, who was sworn into office last month and represents West Virginia’s Wayne County, is known as a local anti-abortion protester.

  211. 211.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 7, 2021 at 7:41 am

    @Mary G: Andy Harris is a former anesthesiologist high on his own supply. He’s also the imbecile who on the day after his first election demanded to know why his gold-plated Congressional health care hadn’t started. (It was pointed out to him that he would not in fact be a member of Congress until he was sworn in the following January 3.)

    Allred could’ve done the world a favor by choking the living shit out of that asshole.

     

    @Mary G:

  212. 212.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 7, 2021 at 8:04 am

    @CarolDuhart2: The Republicans rely on Democratic apathy in the midterms for gains.  But remember in 1936 the Republicans lost seats.

    Um…In 1936 FDR whomped Alf Landon to win a second term. I.e., it was not a midterm election.

  213. 213.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 7, 2021 at 8:10 am

    @Amir Khalid: There’s the old joke about the HS English teacher who says to his class, “While a double negative can be equivalent to a positive, there is no instance where a double positive can be equivalent to a negative.”

    Student in the back snarls, “Yeah, right.“

  214. 214.

    Jinchi

    January 7, 2021 at 8:23 am

    @Uncle Cosmo: Um…In 1936 FDR whomped Alf Landon to win a second term. I.e., it was not a midterm election.

    Details, details.

    But in any case, Dems won 9 additional Senate seats in 1934 as well.

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