45% of Republicans approve of the storming of the Capitol building. https://t.co/th0ldyK1IC pic.twitter.com/JnFFsZ4obo
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021
Also, a majority of Republicans blame *Joe Biden* for the storming of the Capitol pic.twitter.com/t3ijBDFely
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021
Got that? Per Republicans, the storming of the Capitol was good and right and done by patriots, but also was somehow that guy Joe Biden's fault
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) January 7, 2021
Trump is a danger to his own country. He shouldn't be president for one more minute. #ImpeachAgain – Now. https://t.co/qUurJ4NEFi via @usatoday
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 6, 2021
I dislike being forced to agree with Tom Nichols, but… “Trump is a danger to his own country. He shouldn’t be president for one more minute”
… First, Trump is an imminent danger to the safety of the country. The Capitol was overrun by a mob at his behest. By late afternoon, Trump had called on the protesters to go home — while telling them that they were indeed right that the election had been stolen, thus pouring more fuel on the flames even while pretending to calm the waters. There is no responsible argument for leaving such a man in command of the armed forces, for leaving the security of the American nation in his hands for one more minute.
Second, even after this attempt at a violent overthrow of the political order is defeated, Trump is not going to stop. He created the situation in the Capitol, and he will gladly create another diversion — perhaps with a last-ditch attempt to use the U.S. military at home or as part of a desperate attempt to embroil America in a foreign conflict — if he thinks it is the only way to protect himself from the legal and financial peril he will face on Jan. 21.
Finally, impeachment for multiple crimes against the Constitution and the American people is the only course left for lawmakers, especially Republicans of the president’s own party, who want to demonstrate their fidelity to the Constitution and protect the supremacy of the rule of law in the United States. The Constitution has to mean something. If the president of the United States goes unpunished after unleashing a mob against elected legislators merely because he wishes to invalidate an election, then this is a far larger problem than a day of protest that got out of hand.
We should never have come to this point. Of course, now that all is lost, born-again constitutionalists like Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (soon to become minority leader) have rediscovered the notion of duty and strict obedience to the Constitution. They are too late, and it is to their shame that they did not act sooner. Trump has made it clear for months, even years, that he would never accept a defeat and that he would never voluntarily leave office. They knew the danger and they chose to take their chances in order to keep their grip on power…
Democrats, whatever the limits of their usual disorganization, have tried for four years to stop Trump from running roughshod over our system of government. Biden ran a campaign that took the high road and called for national unity. They have done their part. Now it is time for the Republicans to do theirs…
Another guy I don’t trust, but he does have a reputation as a competent/skillful lawyer:
This is key. The text is poorly drafted on this point, but when you think about it, it's the only sensible construction. https://t.co/FoZdnFkUHA
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021
Anyway, once Trump objects, the VP and cabinet within the four days can notify Congress that they still think Trump unfit, and that triggers a period during which the VP remains acting president while the Congress decides whether (by a 2/3 vote of both houses) …
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021
Ideally, Congress would sumultaneously proceed with expedited impeachment and removal proceedings that would result in an impeachment conviction that would not only totally remove Trump from office, but—this is the added value—prohibit him from ever holding federal office again.
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) January 7, 2021
dmsilev
I can only hope his military aides have replaced the “nuclear football” with an actual football that has a picture of an atom painted on the side.
Cacti
This isn’t something we can just turn the page on.
Trump needs to be made an example.
The moment he leaves the White House, he should be in handcuffs for inciting an insurrection against Congress.
Anya
I hate these bullshit polls. I blame the pollsters who ask misleading questions.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
45% of Republicans is what? 15% of voters?
Jerzy Russian
Well, there goes my good night’s sleep.
mali muso
Headed to bed, this is going on too long for me. Hope I wake up still in a functioning democracy.
craigie
I just wrote some sternly-worded letters about all this. That ought to do it.
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: About that, yeah. 30% R, 30% D, 40% no party/other.
Jerzy Russian
@dmsilev: Perhaps it was an actual nuclear football, filled with radioactive elements of various sorts. Over time, all of the radiation has melted what is left of Trump’s brain, and here we are today.
C Stars
He needs to be removed from office but sadly I think there’s a zero percent chance of that happening. Hopefully I’m wrong. But honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if we see more of these types of actions over the next few weeks.
Anya
I am off to bed. See you later in the day.
piratedan
we in the process of trying to deal with a global health crisis, global climate crisis and we have multiple bad faith actors who are busy putting their own ambition above all else.
Like everyone else, I’m afraid that some of us are going to lose faith and start fighting fire with fire, and while I know that this way lies madness and ruin, there’s a very real part of me right now that is fervently in favor of retribution in seeing somebody who has instigated all of this fuckery, pay a price for it
I’m feeling very Sirius Black right now and I’ve done my waiting in this political Azkaban.
MoCA Ace
@dmsilev: I’m pretty sure, per the presidents orders, the “football” was replaced years ago with a satchel full of KFC and Big Mac’s
dmsilev
So, if the PA election was so flawed, what is this R from PA doing on the House floor?
Al Z.
Blaming Biden is just more circular reasoning from these dimwits. The storming of the capitol is just further evidence that the voter fraud was “real”/
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jerzy Russian: maybe they could (still) give him one of those football phones, and tell him the keypad is where he types the launch codes
rikyrah
@Cacti:
????
jonas
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Too many in any case.
Redshift
Technically, it’s an (optional) additional vote after the impeachment conviction that bars him from ever holding office again, rather than it being inherent in impeachment.
(Autocorrect wanted to make “impeachment” “impalement,” and I can’t disagree…)
hervevillechaizelounge
Would 45% of republicans approve if the insurgents had been of the dusky persuasion? How many drops of melanin before “Lawn Order” is automatically invoked?
jonas
@dmsilev: Only Democrats cast fraudulent votes, you see. All votes cast for Republicans can’t be reversed by Dominion’s Soros-controlled algorithms. It’s math, or something.
rikyrah
No
We are not making nice with them
Redshift
@dmsilev: That’s the biggest tell that they all know it’s a con “the presidential election was invalid, but my election on the same ballot was just fine.”
dmsilev
“It’s one thing to Tweet a belief. It’s another to provide actual evidence.”
Words to live by.
scav
@Cacti: Not just Trump — there are a shitload of enablers that need a record of their deeds branded onto their faces. Not only so we can see them coming, but also so that they have to remember just who they are every time they stare in a mirror.
burnspbesq
The two houses have separated to consider the objection to the Pennsylvania results.
‘Objections to the results in Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada could not be considered because no Senator joined in the objections put forth by House members.
Felanius Kootea
A poll on who supports an attempted coup. How nice.
MMM
Actually based on my Republican fb friends, I would say it is about 90% support (I note this is not scientific at all). But I do offer thoughts and prayers.
Wyatt Salamanca
Video Shows Newly Elected W.Va. Lawmaker Among Mob That Stormed The U.S. Capitol
h/t https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/06/954227854/video-shows-newly-elected-w-va-lawmaker-among-mob-that-stormed-the-u-s-capitol
NotMax
Dolt 45 would immediately fire all or most of the cabinet the moment the letter of objection is transmitted and replace them with even flunkier flunkies.
burnspbesq
Senate took all of about ten minutes to vote down the objection, 92-7.
dmsilev
@burnspbesq: House is still talking.
NotMax
What was the final Senate tally on Pennsylvania (if it was a roll call vote)?
NotMax
nvm. @burnspbesq got there whilst your truly was typing.
Kattails
Meidas Touch has a video up and a petition for both impeachment and 25th amendment.
Calouste
@NotMax: Doesn’t work, because they won’t be confirmed, which leaves Pence as the only one with a vote.
Calouste
@burnspbesq: Rick Scott makes the Seditious Six into the Seditious Seven.
Cacti
Pure poetry.
Ms. Deranged in AZ
@Cacti: I would have added “…as the cops kicked in his front door.”
L85NJGT
This woman from Georgia spews a steady stream of gibberish.
NotMax
@Calouste
All the 25th Amendment calls for is the heads of executive departments. It’s silent as to whether they must have been confirmed for the post. The text:
An Acting Secretary is by dint of the position the principal officer.
dmsilev
@L85NJGT: You will no doubt be shocked to learn she’s a Qanon nut.
Cacti
I wonder…
After leaving the Senate, could anyone else see Kelly Loeffler taking up the hobby of making coats from Dalmatian puppies?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
sounds like a yes.
dmsilev
Enough. I’m out. Try not to enable any more coups overnight.
Mary G
The minor leaguers speaking late for the Republicans are terrible. The Dem bench is deep.
L85NJGT
@dmsilev:
A true believer. The rest come off as con artists and crooks running a number on the rubes.
Mary G
Brave Sir McConnell runs away.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
NotMax
@Mary G
Leaving Warnock and Ossoff out in the cold.
Mary G
In other news, per WaPo a record number of Americans were reported dead of Covid19 today.
Kent
It’s worse than that. If the PA election was invalid, then there is no state legislature in PA to take action and certify the win for Trump. 100% of the House and 33% of the Senate don’t exist. They are just uncertified pretenders. We will need to wait for new elections in PA to convene a state legislature.
Mike in NC
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Trump never met Mike Pence and couldn’t pick him out in a lineup.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
that was for graffiti — there’s always a tweet
Mary G
L85NJGT
@Mary G:
There is a “it was either this or used car sales” vibe to their backbenchers.
patrick II
@Mary G:
After watching that maskless crowd at the Capitol today, there will be more joining them in a few weeks. But I guess if you are doing insurrection going without a mask in the Capitol is fairly low on the crime scale.
Llelldorin
So half of Trump supporters are, in fact, in a basket of deplorables?
How many times has Clinton been proved right by now?
PIGL
@L85NJGT: you saying this woman from Georgia, didn’t feel just right?
NotMax
@L85NJGT
Luckily for us, Fitz is Canadian.
:)
Inventor
@NotMax: 7-92
MisterForkbeard
@Llelldorin: A Cassandra for our times.
Debbie(Aussie)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Most likely 27%. Just a guess?
Feathers
@L85NJGT: As John Rogers (of Leverage and 27% crazification factor) says, most Members of Congress are at about the level of the second smartest car dealer in their district.
Martin
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Sounds like we know who’s been doing some 25A legwork.
Bill Arnold
And yet the Capital Police were not ready:
The Rioters Who Took Over The Capitol Have Been Planning Online In The Open For Weeks – The mob that forced Congress to flee organized on both obscure and mainstream sites. (BuzzFeed, Jane Lytvynenko, Molly Hensley-Clancy, January 6, 2021)
Cacti
@Bill Arnold: We know now that white supremacists have been burrowing into police departments for years.
When the dust settles, I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the coup plotters had moles in the Capitol Police.
Fair Economist
@Mary G:
Must be a lot of support for impeachment to need to block Senate activity.
MisterForkbeard
@Fair Economist: So he’s basically going to not swear in Warnock/Ossoff so he can maintain Majority Leader as long as possible.
Not surprising. About the low-grade sedition I expect from Mitch McConnell.
Viva BrisVegas
@Llelldorin: Clinton said half of these mouthbreathers were deplorable. She forgot to tell us the other half were traitorous.
L85NJGT
@Fair Economist:
Make Pence do it. Truly profiles in courage.
burnspbesq
The aroma of the objectors’ bullshit argument is not dissipated by repetition.
mrmoshpotato
Can someone on Twitter tell Rick Wilson he’s a fascist shitstain who sold his soul long ago?
Mary G
I don’t know who the young gentleman from Pennsylvania, I think, that is speaking now is, but he called Republican representatives liars and said the police used kid gloves on the mob because they were white, which has the bigots all riled up and offended and said “The truth hurts.” I like him.
Chetan Murthy
@Mary G: Conor Lamb, apparently.
Kent
Swearing in Ossoff wouldn’t affect his majority status until Kamala Harris is sworn in as VP on the 20th. Until Jan 20 the Senate stays in GOP hands anyway because Trump is the tie breaker.
Mary G
Some of these idiots don’t seem to get the concept of screen caps.
Mary G
@Chetan Murthy: I thought we might get a fist fight, which he would’ve won.
ETA: Evidently a separate beef on the sidelines also arose:
mrmoshpotato
FTFY Tommy. It’s not his country. His country is more Russian and more fascist.
mrmoshpotato
@mrmoshpotato: Clarification – Rick Wilson is a fascist shitstain who sold his soul long ago, but Graham is too.
Mary G
British TV got better film than any American network:
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Kent:
Pence, not Trump. But the point is the same.
@Bill Arnold:
Not ready, or simply not interested in stopping it? Terrifying though it is to think, some police have evidently been photographed with the terrorists – I’m not sure if we’re talking DC or Capitol police though. In any case, there needs to be a top-to-bottom reckoning of the Capitol police in order to determine how yesterday’s events occurred.
Cēterum cēnseō factiōnem Rēpūblicānam dēlendam esse īgnī ferrōque.
L85NJGT
2am – we about done here?
Mary G
mrmoshpotato
@L85NJGT: Done with what – dancing the GOP’s grave?
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: OMG! So he can get arrested in the comfort of his mom’s basement?
TriassicSands
@Cacti:
No more golf with Trump for Graham. He is now tied with approximately 172 million people as Trump’s personal enemy number one.
It won’t happen, but it would be interesting to see how many Republican senators would vote to convict Trump — 4? 5? Could it reach double figures? Naah. Really, there would only be one definite vote to convict.
Original Lee
Jeez, who is the asshole saying that millions of people went unheard while his mask is falling down?
Kent
@Mary G: Former NFL linebacker Colin Allred? Yes, I think he would have won. He would have squashed that lying MAGA twerp like a bug.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@L85NJGT: might have the House vote around 2:30-3:00, back in joint session till maybe 3:30
Bruce K in ATH-GR
The Prime Minister of Greece appears to have more faith in America than me:
jl
55 percent of GOPers don’t approve and 1/3 don’t blame Biden. Just need to peel off a few percent of them and some independents, and the GOP has some more electoral problems. Abrams and her GA allies have energized the Dem voters.
Royston Vasey
Your country seems to be well and truly f*cked.
RV in NZ
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Debate over in the House, voting beginning. Very good final speech by Jamie Raskin.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Mary G: White privilege
jl
@(((CassandraLeo))): I think there are a lot of moving pieces. The Capitol Police don’t do all the intelligence themselves. If someone knew what the rioters were planning and how many, why no back-up? Several agencies have to answer some questions besides the CP.
burnspbesq
The House is now voting on the objection to Pennsylvania. Should take about 20-25 minutes.
Mary G
@Royston Vasey: Don’t give up on us yet;
jl
@Royston Vasey: Thanks, but we already knew that. We’re working on it. Be like new after it’s out of the shop.
trollhattan
@Llelldorin:
All the times.
The treatment of Hillary Clinton will fester in history as one of America’s more shameful chapters.
MisterForkbeard
@Kent: A fair point.
DMcK
Y’know what I just don’t get at all? The “It was an ANTIFA False Flag op!” theorists. I understand the FF thing in the context of our nation’s celebrated cultural tradition of random mass shootings, but in this case, wouldn’t the actual insurrectionists take umbrage at this framing of events? I mean, a brave/insane woman gave her life for the cause and everything! The contorted, conflicted intricacies of the deeply committed Q-MAGA mind elude me, probably because I’m not in dire need of psychiatric intervention.
Also, quite uncomfortable with HOPING these vile traitors wind up in prison, but knowing that it’s not at all a certainty.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Jimenez is a CNN reporter
burnspbesq
Voting is continuing, but 218 no votes are already recorded. It’s done.
L85NJGT
@DMcK:
Deal goes bad -> time to blameshift.
piratedan
is guessing that there will be better security at the WFT playoff game Saturday night than there was at the Capitol yesterday.
TriassicSands
@Mary G:
He sounds like your typical 60-year-old five-year-old. Or is it five-year-old sixty-year-old?
piratedan
@DMcK: and say we take that at face value, say that there were “bad” ANTIFA actors embedded in the MOB, did any of our patriots attempt to STOP them? After all, aren’t they the super-patriots, weren’t they armed? couldn’t have they been working with the authorities to ensure that their peaceful demonstration wasn’t tainted?
its the same tired schtick where these guys take zero responsibility for ANYTHING and anyone else, everyone else is to blame… while they try and make America great again… so sad, so tragic….
TS (the original)
Sick of NBC replaying the wonder of Lindsey Graham ( & McConnell)
How about the wonder of Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and those who support democracy
TriassicSands
@piratedan:
America, always ready to be unprepared.
But in fairness, who could ever have imagined there might be trouble at the Capitol yesterday? (Answer: apparently everyone who wasn’t involved it Capitol security. And no one who was.)
jl
@TS (the original): Corporate media can’t let go of their beloved serious responsible daddy GOP, which sadly passed away years ago, after being on life support, brain dead, for decades.
Kent
It was already done 2 hours ago when the Senate voted it down. This is just pointless time wasting by the House GOP on a meaningless vote for a motion that already failed.
Ninedragonspot
@DMcK: I think the “It wuz the Antifa what done it” schtick is an offshoot of the Stupid Reichstag plan: spark violence, blame Antifa, impose martial law.
Mary G
Why do they even bother to show a countdown clocks on votes? It sits at 00:00 forever, just leave it off.
TS (the original)
@Kent:
And why do they take so long to vote?
NotMax
@TS (the original)
COVID rules. Only allowed in about 50 at a time to vote, and have to wait for enough to clear the floor for the next group to enter.
jl
@Ninedragonspot: Hitler’s goons knew enough to not do the job in broad daylight and do media interviews as the crime was in progress at the scene.
TS (the original)
@NotMax:
Thanks – I didn’t notice they were much faster before covid
burnspbesq
Final count is 138-282.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
House kabuki done. Senate being called in to finish the certification of states. Unless Hawley decides to object to Wyoming or something.
SoupCatcher
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Just need to get to Vermont, I think.
jl
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Giuliani on some Senator’s phone, on speaker, asking if any states that start with x, y, or z?
CarolDuhart2
@jl: And that’s another thing. The Republicans rely on Democratic apathy in the midterms for gains. But remember in 1936 the Republicans lost seats. We are engaged, probably enraged, for life now. No holding back, no lying low. Sure, some people will be exhausted and drop out from time to time-that’s understandable. But nobody is saying give up on our side. We want-and need democracy to function as a nation, let alone, people.
NotMax
Would be nice if the clerk of the House pronounced electoral correctly.
Electorial. Every time.
Mary G
Final lap, I hope. Up to South Carolina. I’m in awe of Nancy SMASH’s stamina. She’s been on her feet in high heels for hours and didn’t even sit down during the break.
NotMax
@Mary G
She has changed outfits from earlier on Wednesday.
lgerard
HOORAY!
jl
@CarolDuhart2: I think Dems are energized, more confident that they can win, get their turnout up, and win over some salvageable Rs and Is with an honest pitch of truth.
Chyron HR
“Republicans are still behind Trump all the way but we must impeach him now because the GOP will totally convict him this time.” Well, okay then.
NotMax
And… objection to Wisconsin, but senator has withdrawn name from the objection.
Felanius Kootea
Woohoo – Klobuchar announces that Biden and Harris will be president and vice-president.
L85NJGT
306-232
Trump is gonna pop a gasket.
Baud
And there it is.
NotMax
Final numbers.
Phew. Glad I didn’t read any spoilers beforehand.
Baud
4 deaths?
Mary G
@NotMax: And masks, of course.
Kent
I learned a new word today….
“therefrom”
The Thin Black Duke
Remember, as bad as it is now, it would have been much, much worse if Warnock and Ossoff lost.
prostratedragon
Whew!
Badly as I want to see the First Seditionist dealt with, this was a better thing to take care of right now.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Off to sleep. Good night, jackals. There’s still plenty to worry about, especially over the next 13 days 8 hours and 11 minutes. Let’s try to enjoy tonight’s milestone for a few minutes before starting the next phase of fretting.
prostratedragon
@Baud: Yes, I heard that there were three others who were described as “medical emergencies” or something, in addition to the woman who was shot. Heart attacks, bad reaction to the gas?
burnspbesq
It’s all over. No Senator objected to the Wisconsin vote.
Joe and Kamala are elected, for the term beginning 1/20/21.
Just Some Fuckhead
@L85NJGT: Really bad timing as he’s lost his tweeting privileges.
Baud
@prostratedragon:
Thanks.
prostratedragon
Every one of about 1152530 seconds to go.
jl
@Baud: I heard news report that there were 3 deaths due to medical emergencies. Maybe heart attacks, etc.?
Baud
Trump statement. Not written by Trump. Says there will be an orderly transition on Jan 20.
Edmund Dantes
@jl:
One rumor is one of the insurrectionist shot themselves with their own taser and suffered cardiac arrest.
mrmoshpotato
@The Thin Black Duke:
Yes. McFascist no longer being majority leader makes so much possible.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: And state charges on the 21st if AGs want to make this shitpile crime family lay awake all night.
NickM
NPR reporting Trump conceded that Biden will be President Jan 20 and there will be an orderly transition.
raven
CNN)President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he would leave office on January 20 for the first time Thursday, pledging an orderly transfer of power after Congress affirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s Electoral College win.
mrmoshpotato
@Edmund Dantes:
How is that even
Fuck it. I don’t care.
dc
@NickM: Must have received orders from Putin. And/or he was presented with the real possibility of Pence and enough cabinet heads to boot him using 25th amendment.
mrmoshpotato
@raven: Funny. There already hasn’t been an orderly transfer of power, but whatever CNN. May someone drop 1000000 Dump podiums on you all.
L85NJGT
Highlight of the evening? Pence putting a dutiful end to his own political career. Though Senator Graham’s complete lack of shame was a close second.
@raven:
Right. The day he finally became president. His choices
todayyesterday would indicate otherwise, but the MSM just can’t help themselves.Lacuna Synechdoche
Now I’m worried. A “pledge” from Trump is a sure sign he intends to do the opposite.
matt the somewhat reasonable
Well, now we’ve found out what it takes to get some Republicans to break with Trump.
prostratedragon
IL Gov. JB Pritzker joins the call for impeachment and removal.
NickM
I’ve read a bunch of articles but none has the answer- when are Ossoff and Warnock sworn in?
Baud
@NickM:
After their wins are certified by the state. They are still receiving military ballots until Friday.
L85NJGT
@Lacuna Synechdoche:
Any trigger will do. Let’s all just ignore that the man is delusional.
Mary G
Sloegin
13 long days left.
matt the somewhat reasonable
@Mary G: Remember, when white people do it it’s ‘finding’.
L85NJGT
@Baud:
In any event, it only matters for seniority purposes until Kamala is sworn in.
Jesse
@Baud: “Overseas ballot” is the right word. I’m an American abroad, non-military, and it irritates me to no end to be lumped in with the military. Most Americans abroad aren’t military.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Trump became president yesterday.
L85NJGT
@Jesse:
And Jon Ossoff got better than 2/3 of Hispanic voters, but we like our narratives.
Baud
@Sloegin:
Twitter should leave ita ban in place. That’ll make it easier.
Bruuuuce
@mrmoshpotato: Why wait until the 21st, when 12:01 PM on January 20 will do?
Shalimar
@Redshift: “The Democrat algorithm created enough extra votes to steal the election from President Trump, but they didn’t use this magic power to create enough votes to beat me.” – Republican Congressperson
sanjeevs
I sure hope this means Merrick Garland won’t be AG. Fuck that.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Shalimar: DemocRats are really good at the cyber.
oclib
@NickM:
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume that Senators-elect Ossoff and Warnock might want to be sworn in by Madam VP Kamala Harris sometime on the afternoon of the 20th
Amir Khalid
Have there been any reports of similar insurrections at state capitols around the US?
oclib
@Amir Khalid:
yes
https://www.npr.org/sections/congress-electoral-college-tally-live-updates/2021/01/06/954124446/states-also-see-protests-and-angry-responses-to-d-c-violence
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Amir Khalid: Yes, but apparently the press can’t walk and chew bubble gum at the same time so not much details.
Baud
@sanjeevs:
Garland will be AG. But I’m glad you’re focusing in the most salient issue coming out of yesterday’s events.
JPL
The president wants an orderly transfer of power, so does that mean Lindsay goes back and kisses his ass again?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Maybe, remember these clowns don’t vote except when it’s Trump as Georgia showed and they have the memory of goldfish.
DMcK
@JPL: “The President” is whomever is still around, scrambling desperately to avoid criminal legal exposure. Trump himself will stick to his guns and never concede defeat, and his cultists will follow suit.
Brachiator
@raven:
I don’t know that Trump can behave himself for 14 days.
Baud
@Brachiator:
I do wonder whether the 25th amendment threat was communicated to Trump. Pence is an awful person, but looks like a patriot compared to Trump.
JPL
@Brachiator: First they came for … Since the president is calling for an orderly transfer, all will be forgiven.
f.k that
Amir Khalid
@JPL:
Two words: yeah and right.
Martin
@raven: Trump didn’t acknowledge shit. He didn’t write that. His staff are trying to box him in.
JPL
@Martin: Kevin McCarthy won’t care who wrote it. Mitch won’t care, neither will Lindsay. They will all return to praising their dear fking leader.
SiubhanDuinne
Whoa! Joe S. just dropped a huge F-bomb, and didn’t get bleeped or seven-second delayed!
Martin
Ok, I can’t stand Morning Joe, but he’s having a righteous rant this morning. Screaming at the Capitol Police “and you open the fucking door for them!”. Calling for Trump to be arrested today.
Seriously, check it out – it’ll be plastered everywhere.
raven
Morning Joe “YOU OPENED THE FUCKING DOOR FOR THEM”.
Baud
Elizabelle
Trump needs to go. Today or tomorrow.
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: You got me to look.
Mia is ranting. But: that fucker helped normalize Trump and get him elected.
It’s going to be
entertaininginfuriating to see the “shocked, shocked” people.raven
Woman killed was a fucking Trump nut job.
Woman fatally shot as pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol identified as Air Force veteran
“Babbitt wrote: “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!””
KSinMA
@mrmoshpotato:
“There already hasn’t been an orderly transfer of power”:
Excellent point.
Elizabelle
@raven: Yep. And an Air Force vet.
We need to de-lunaticize our armed forces and police. They’re burrowed in.
Elizabelle
Incidentally: has brave Mike Pompeo had anything to say about any of this?
Also: Mattis needs to name names.
Baud
@raven:
She was stopped.
satby
@raven: So, in violation of her oath to protect the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic” as well as a seditious mob participant. Hmm.
raven
WASHINGTON — Meet Jake Angeli, the Trump supporter who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday with his face painted, bare-bodied and wearing a fur headdress with black buffalo horns.
Angeli is a 33-year-old QAnon supporter, who was spotted last year at various right-wing political rallies in Arizona. Last February, he protested outside the Arizona State Capitol during a pro-Trump rally with a sign that read, “Q Sent Me.”
Elizabelle
@raven: from your article:
sanjeevs
@Baud: it is. This doesn’t stop until Republicans face the same consequences for lawbreaking as everyone else. Comey2.0 won’t do that.
Baud
@sanjeevs:
Well, if your first reaction to all this is to predict how Dems will fail next, we’re fighting different fights.
Elizabelle
I’m curious: did any of you get to see or hear the full video message from Trump, wherein he raved about the stolen “landslide” election and told the insurrectionists “he loved them.” Three times?
I heard it while driving, on NPR, and they cut it off once he went into his second rant about the stolen election. He also talked about bad, terrible people, whom he did not name.
In Richmond VA, the local CBS station used about 20 seconds of the video, wherein Trump told the insurrectionists to “go home.” And he did say that, but with huge emphasis on that Trump wanted to protect them, and law enforcement.
Did you guys get to see/hear that? Very possible it wasn’t broadcast much, to stop Trump from continuing to foment.
germy
p.a
Well thank FSM for Ivanka’s moderating influence!
germy
And this motherfucker needs to go to jail, not Washington. Newly elected? Then Un-elect him.
Elizabelle
Anne just put up the morning thread.
H.E.Wolf
@germy: Derrick Evans is a Republican member of the WV House of Delegates.
As is frequently the case with far-right nutcases, he has a history of misogynist behavior. Per the Washington Post:
Uncle Cosmo
@Mary G: Andy Harris is a former anesthesiologist high on his own supply. He’s also the imbecile who on the day after his first election demanded to know why his gold-plated Congressional health care hadn’t started. (It was pointed out to him that he would not in fact be a member of Congress until he was sworn in the following January 3.)
Allred could’ve done the world a favor by choking the living shit out of that asshole.
@Mary G:
Uncle Cosmo
Um…In 1936 FDR whomped Alf Landon to win a second term. I.e., it was not a midterm election.
Uncle Cosmo
@Amir Khalid: There’s the old joke about the HS English teacher who says to his class, “While a double negative can be equivalent to a positive, there is no instance where a double positive can be equivalent to a negative.”
Student in the back snarls, “Yeah, right.“
Jinchi
Details, details.
But in any case, Dems won 9 additional Senate seats in 1934 as well.