US Congress formally confirms Joe Biden's victory, after armed protesters stormed the Capitol https://t.co/GtwQnq3SAc
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) January 7, 2021
What’s the foreign-affairs version of ‘a shanda fur die goyim’? Because the GOP Death Cultists are that.
Here are the Thursday front pages of the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal. pic.twitter.com/rBT5S6i93I
— Daniel Miller (@DanielNMiller) January 7, 2021
US Capitol: World leaders react to 'horrifying' scenes in Washington https://t.co/pT847zvDuh
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) January 7, 2021
how could anyone have seen this coming, other than by listening to what Donald Trump and his supporters said for four years?
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) January 7, 2021
"Today's a reminder, a painful one, that democracy is fragile"
President-elect Joe Biden says to preserve democracy requires "leaders who are devoted not to the pursuit of power… but to the common good"https://t.co/XEFNRIDiDc pic.twitter.com/4ZoGFFOWfR
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) January 6, 2021
DC Mayor Bowser just declared an emergency for 15 days — meaning through the inauguration — which will empower her to draw on resources if needed to secure the city and its residents.
— Julie Zauzmer (@JulieZauzmer) January 7, 2021
Hundreds of thousands of DC residents had to endure a coup in their backyard today, go into curfew at 6pm, and fear for their personal safety. None of them have any representation in Congress.
— Sam Sanders (@samsanders) January 7, 2021
“White Americans aren’t afraid of the cops. White Americans are never afraid of the cops, even when they’re committing an insurrection,” @JoyAnnReid says about the Trump supporters rioting the US Capitol. pic.twitter.com/dJ3soNlZhq
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 6, 2021
Please, please, please do not let your friends and family piece together an account of what happened today from posts or conspiracies on social media. Send them our story — it’s the joint work of dozens of reporters who were on the ground. https://t.co/aQkJAW0GWp
— Rebecca Tan (@rebtanhs) January 7, 2021
Democrats take the Senate with both Georgia wins, boosting the prospects for President-elect Joe Biden's ambitious legislative agenda https://t.co/wd89lKdn5a pic.twitter.com/HRxJbO9CZ7
— Reuters (@Reuters) January 7, 2021
an unsung hero here today is the remarkable discipline of counter protesters to know to stay the fuck away from this septic tank fire. the MAGA terrorists wanted an enemy and instead of a messy who-fought-who narrative they attacked the cops and our entire government
— kilgore trout, brad r’s brother (@KT_So_It_Goes) January 7, 2021
You all must watch the Colbert clip. Pure genius!
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
A scary morning thought:
Given Rudy’s attempt to work Tuberville on picking 10 states for the purpose of delay and given that some of the shitheads had strip ties, pipe bombs and rope, I’m wondering if their wasn’t coordination within the ranks of Trump’s handlers about the insurrection in order to delay.
Maybe the incitement wasn’t so incidental to what happened – to me, it looks like part of a bigger effort. That MAGA world is claiming “it was ANTIFA”, there’s a Reichstag Fire ring to it.
It bears aggressive investigation.
And he needs to go. Directly to jail.
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Biden/Harris is official, and we’ll soon have the Senate. The MAGAs’ shame will not stop us.
Josh Hawley must be investigated, if only for that power salute he gave the protesters as he walked to the Capitol.
The protection of complexion on full display yesterday.
The mere thought….
Of what would have happened if they had been BLACK trying to storm the Capitol????
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Who would you trust to investigate??
We now know why Barr left
We now know why Cheney wrote the letter.
You can’t convince me otherwise?
Two weeks ago if any commenter here had predicted this they would have been pied or chased off the blog. Let’s be honest.
Okay, NPR has actually used the word “lie” five times in the past 15 minutes. A bit late, guys.
Maga v BLM: how police handled the Capitol mob and George Floyd activists – in pictures
My sons called me last night to see what I thought of yesterday’s shenanigans. At the moment I had just sat down in front of the computer and was just then learning of them. My first question was, “Did anyone get shot?” the 2nd was, “Did anyone get arrested?” because we all know the special treatment fragile white males get from the police. The answers were exactly what I expected.
Just that one photograph of the Confederate flag sailing down the Capitol halls should be sufficient to award prison time of all of those traitors.
I don’t think anyone would have predicted how easily they were able to breach the Capitol.
Video Shows Newly Elected W.Va. Lawmaker Among Mob That Stormed The U.S. Capitol
The video that shows Evans entering the Capitol was later deleted, though not before multiple social media users made and shared copies of it.
At one point during the video, hundreds of people are shown forcing their way into the building, and someone is heard yelling: “We’re in! We’re in! Derrick Evans is in the Capitol!”
In a separate Facebook post published just after 6 p.m., Evans said he was on a bus traveling back to West Virginia. He wrote that he did not have “negative interactions” with law enforcement. He said he did not participate in “any destruction that may have occurred.”
He wrote that he was in D.C. “as an independent member of the media to film history.” However, Evans is not known to work as a professional journalist.
From a buddy
My rep, Joyce Beatty (now the leader of the CBC), is being very vocal about that. Knowing her, this is an issue that will be investigated.
@rikyrah: Yeah, the insiders know what’s going on.
I said 4 years ago that Trump would be carried out of the WH. 13 days out, that’s not looking like a bad prediction.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
On a sad note, in the 32 years I’ce been with her, my wife has never had a cross word with her father. They started having an argument about this last night, and it got really bad – he’s been drowning in Fix News, cried over Loeffler and Perdue losing, is terrified about China and Venezuela and soc!alism.
Dunno that that relationship is reparable.
On a lighter note, her quote from yesterday:
”I don’t tweet. But I can.”
It was like watching the Night Walkers scale the Wall. Literally crawling up the sides of the building!
That’s a remarkable concession.
@Baud: He’s an evangelical and a attorney and he has been raling against Trump from day one.
Has all the talk about the 25th Amendment been shelved?
That’s good. Still, you don’t see too many people outside of Balloon Juice acknowledge that Hillary was right.
@debbie: My Rep, Jason Smith, was one of the insurrectionists.
I’m guessing Pence is holding it over Trump at this point. I got the impression Pence has had enough.
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I had a similar conversation last night with my mom. It’s not irreparable, but it’s closer than she realizes.
If he didn’t change his mind after that mob scene, then he needs to be removed from any committee he sits on and consigned to the back of the room (facing the wall) until he is removed.
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I’m happy your FIL is unhappy.
Sorry not sorry.
John Heileman goes there. Some members of the Capitol Police were complicit; at the very least overly tolerant of the insurrectionists’ presence.
He said “Fifth? Column.”
If so, then all props to him for standing up for the democracy. Grudging respect at most.
Sedition is a hell of a red line.
@germy: Derrick Evans is really shitty at covering his ass…and shitting his pants scared about the legal problems staring him in the face. Fuck him.
Rick Scott objected to Pennsylvania.
It’s odd that the Arizona and Pennsylvania objectors are not all the same.
@Baud: I don’t think that’s the correct read. Trump has an easy out against a 25th amendment threat – he just fires the cabinet members that would support it. That immediately neuters the threat.
25th amendment is one of those things you either do in private, or can never do.
Do you think there is a chance that Josh Hawley is not seated in the Senate? Ted Cruz?
He can’t fire Pence. And if Pence is the only eligible voter? Who knows?
Here’s Joes rant, btw.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Blue ribbon 11 member commission with subpoena power via a grand jury in DC or ED VA, a 1 year brief, consisting of 6 Ds, 4 never Trump Rs and a high level Trump firee like Mattis or Kelly.
Let’s be clear about something. As awful and disgraceful as yesterday was, it was still largely cosplay. There were only a handful of fatalities, all but one due to medical causes.
This was a heavily armed mob that met with at best token resistance and at worst active assistance from the Capitol Police. It could have ended in a massacre, with dozens of elected officials murdered. It didn’t this time only because of what I expect was a failure of imagination on the part of the mob. They didn’t fully realize how successful they were.
The next time – and who believes there won’t be a next time – the insurrectionists will have this example in mind.
TS (the original)
And how that happened should be one of the first investigations. Inside help perhaps?
Agreed. We need to show the GOP how to fight terrorists the right way.
@Elizabelle: No way there was no colllusion. The assault on the Michigan State House was a clear warning.
@TS (the original): Agreed.
@TS (the original): FFS, they were taking selfies with these rioters, as if they were just tourists strolling thru on a normal day.
@Elizabelle: They’re already seated. The new Congress started last Sunday.
But I wrote to all of my peeps that there should be a vote to expel them. It might fail, but it should still happen.
All kinds of sedition, not just physical destruction. Pay attention to these GOPers as they make their statements condemning violence. If they refer to this country as a Republic (because they can’t bear to even use the letters d, e, m, o, c, r, a), then they need to lose their assignments and be removed to the back of the room.
Looking at you, Steve Stivers.
Do you think any of those assholes even vote? I am doubtful, but the prospect of his supporters not standing up for Trump with their votes is pretty amusing.
Has anyone seen any of these fuckers with a firearm?
Their committee assignments should be stripped.
I heard reporting that some were found, but not on their persons which surprised me. I thought they were glued to their penises.
I think it’s great that news organizations have figured out who some of these fuckers are, but they should sit on that info until Jan 20.
I’d like to think Trump can’t pardon anyone he can’t identify.
That NPR reporter (thank you for posting the longer excerpt) has a sense of humor dry enough to dessicate a rainforest.
As is frequently the case with far-right nutcases, Evans has a history of misogynist behavior. Per the Washington Post:
[restating my comment from an earlier post]
@raven: The Guardian reported one individual as being armed.
Three cheers for Abigail Spanberger, who stood up for the physical safety of some journalists yesterday. No surprise.
While the exact details would have seemed near-worst-case-scenario even here, Adam has been warning of exactly this sort of event for quite a while. He’s been as oblique as necessary given his professional role but reading between the lines wasn’t exactly what I’d call difficult. The only thing about this that should be a surprise to any of us who regularly read his writings is how badly, intentionally or not, the Capital Police screwed up.
So no, if someone had said that the MAGA cult would form a mob and attempt to storm Congress to delay the EC certification that wouldn’t have gotten them driven off. We have a professional front-pager warning of far worse things having been gamed out as extremely probable, after all.
@sanjeevs: As Adam mentioned yesterday, the mob was able to gain entry to the building through an internally locked side door on the East side of the building. To me this is clear evidence they had help on the inside unless it can be shown they somehow picked the lock.
@Joey Maloney: Unfortunately, that disorganized mob has the backing of ⅔ of the House GOP caucus and half a dozen to a dozen Senators.
The mob isn’t the problem – the leaders of the mob being members of congress and giving them voice is the problem.
@Elizabelle: Gotta link?
Twitter suspended Trump’s account, and I read somewhere that Facebook suspended him from their platform and also Instagram. And yet he remains in charge of this country for another 12 days. JFC.
TS (the original)
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I would hope that never again will these 2 play any part in any US administration or commission or investigation. Nothing. They sold their souls when they went to work for trump.
The Washington Post tells me that Twitter is about to restore Trump’s account.
So I guess being banned for 12 hours really taught him a lesson, right?
@Betty Cracker: Apparently he can be trusted with the nuclear codes, but not a Twitter account. Quite the situation we’ve created for ourself.
Susan Collins says yes!
TS (the original)
I saw snippets of a press conference with the DC Mayor and the LE Officer with her spoke of 50 arrests (for ridiculously simple reasons) and I think a number of the arrests related to firearms offences.
@SiubhanDuinne: There’s no evidence they’re backing down from their additional threat to permanently ban him if he continues with his behavior. It took them long enough, but they’ve been clear on the sequence of events that will occur if his conduct continues. The 12 hour temp ban was always going to be lifted if he deleted the offending tweets. He’s, in effect, on probation.
From the accounts published today, the woman shot and killed was pure, distilled Qanon in a bottle. Crazy, violent, and chock full of stupid. Sorry, no tears from this guy.
@TS (the original): Since the mob proudly live-streamed its POTUS-approved activities, it should be relatively easy to identify, arrest and prosecute them if there’s the will to do it.
@SiubhanDuinne: I’ve read that in order to have it restored, he needed to delete several tweets, which apparently he did, and the next offense would result in his account being deleted.
@debbie: That’s my problem, there is no way they were at the rally and were not put through a weapons check. People keep saying it but these clowns would have had them in full view if they had them.
@TS (the original):
That stink will never be removed.
@germy: Last night my wife said “You said this was going to happen”.
Yeah, but a veteran. //
@Punchy: I posted an article about her.
I remember reading they wanted to disguise themselves as Antifa or BLM (figure that one out), so that would mean no guns.
@Baud: Not yet. Story Andrea Mitchell told during her segment on Morning Joe.
She was still rattled by what happened yesterday.
I just heard that on MJ.
@raven: I agree with Punchy. I have no sympathy for the woman who was killed. She was off the deep end. She was a military vet who once took an oath to serve her company. She chose to be part of that insurrection.
@TS (the original): Truly.
We need to take s long, hard look at replacing the capitol security (can’t bring myself to call them police) with people who actually want to do the work we pay them to do.
All of them.
@rikyrah: Yes, I knew that that op ed from Cheney, et all, was a portent for exactly what we saw yesterday. Barr quitting was pure self preservation. The past Secretaries were terrified by what they were hearing.
Does anyone know if Alice left a trail of bread crumbs for us to get back thru the looking glass?
@Elizabelle: I don’t give a fuck if she was a woman or a vet. She reaped what she sowed.
Yea! Gary Peters of Michigan is going to chair the Senate Committee on Homeland Security. (Tim Kaine related that on Morning Joe.)
Tim Kaine pretty much calling Lindsey Graham (and his ilk) bystanders to evil. Yep.
Well they say “weapons” but that covers a lot of ground. I repeat, there is no way they got though security at the rally with guns.
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on Congress’ tally of the Electoral College vote won by Joe Biden (all times local):
The Washington, D.C., police chief says at least five weapons have been recovered and at least 13 people have been arrested so far in pro-Trump protests.”
When Real Time comes back with new shows Maher’s opening monolog will be 5 minutes of screaming ” I TOLD YOU SO!” over and over at the top of his lungs.
Quite. And word is they must have been secret Leftist agitators because they were open-carrying those Trump flags and Dixie Swastikas. Genuine Ameriklanists wouldn’t have taken any incriminating banners with them if they’d been planning to blame this insurrection on effete, latte-sipping Thugs, would they? So, ergo procto nocto, Antifa outsmarted itself.
I fully expect to see this nut-stew of a theory somewhere on the Interwebs by the weekend.
The Thin Black Duke
@raven: Her punishment fit her crime.
I think we need a good review of law enforcement’s social media. I have been shocked by some of the stuff I am seeing, especially from friends of people I know.
All the law enforcement shrieking about Blue Lives Matter and against Black Lives Matter and screaming about socialism. They should get a very hard look, and perhaps be removed.
Other women and men can do those jobs. They are not irreplaceable.
According to my feed, the Washington Examiner is already pushing the antifa angle.
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: There are family members I cannot engage with these days, and I have no problem with it, sadly.
My problem is that I work for a place filled with MAGAts and I wonder how much longer I can do it.
I am a good actress, but this might be beyond me.
That Colbert clip was fabulous — history teachers of the future take note, what you’ll need to teach is right there in a compact 15 minutes. Your students will be riveted.
TS (the original)
If ever there was an example of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, this would be it. Five years of inciting hatred and violence, of incessant lying and actively encouraging attacks on individuals – and twitter decides it has had enough, when trump is 14 days away from being dragged from the White House.
Won’t matter one iota whether twitter does/does not back down.
Was her name Roberta Paulson?
Maybe they’ll write a song about her.
Asshole. He stoked this shit.
@raven: No tears. Not a one.
I am amazed there were not more arrests at the Capitol. Why did they not arrest everyone who stormed the building, or, at minimum, everyone who remained to be removed?
They sure do that when peaceful protesters are on the scene. I was in the Hart building during a protest against Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination. A lot of those peaceful protesters were happily arrested.
But we can’t arrest these white guy and white woman “patriots”? Really?
The Thin Black Duke
@NeenerNeener: Problem is, he also told his adoring audience what a terrible candidate Hillary Clinton was. Smug Libertarian assholes like Bill helped put us here.
I hate to admit it, but I think he’s right.
Maxine Waters warned the Capitol Police about this possibility, so at least one person predicted that there would be an assault on the Capitol.
@raven: not everyone at the Capitol had to have gone to the rally — or at least not to the secured area. Anyone could stand off from the speeches, outside the security zone, until the SS was done and had left the circle. So not surprised if a few people could have been armed. The Capitol is swept daily, so someone got some weapons up close.
@leeleeFL: I very fortunately cleared my booth in the farmers market out on Tuesday so that I don’t have to go back for a month. Because if I did, I would probably be screaming at the MAGAots until they called the cops on me. I need another 24 hours to cool down before I leave my house or I’ll randomly be calling red hats traitors to their faces all over the place.
TS (the original)
From your link – my bold
Of course he was the same as 8 months ago – and only the committed sycophants have seen anything to be proud of over the past 4 years. Rats leaving the ship.
Joy Reid is great, but I beg to differ. I am a white person, and I am afraid of police.
But her point of course is valid as a general rule. I was screaming at our neighbors’ house — “YOU BACK THE BADGE? YOU BACK THE BADGE unless it’s trying to protect against Trump!!!”
Just Some Fuckhead
@Joey Maloney: That’s a really awful take. That’s the sort of slack white people always get when they crime. Not really dangerous. Not really a threat like brown people.
@Baud: Uh huh. And dutch communists started the Reichstag fire.
@TS (the original):
Yeah. I saw that and thought exactly what you said.
@Just Some Fuckhead: well said.
Not if Schumer doesn’t get rid of the legislative filibuster.
What was it one of Trump’s inflatable crime-dolls said on that call with Georgia’s SOS? Something along the lines of “The fact that no one is giving us evidence that our conspiracy theories are accurate is itself evidence that the guilty parties are hiding said evidence, thereby providing evidence that our conspiracy theories are factual.”
Or more concisely – “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”
Or more accurately – “A black guy did it!”
It’s testament to how genuinely warped the mindset of these people is that they can simultaneously clap each other on the back for their brave stand in defence of America’s foundational principle of White Supremacy while yes-indeeding the oh-so-clever cover-story that this was Antifa trying to frame them for a violent act of sedition. I guess all of that Bush-era caterwauling about Taqiya made an impression.
@rikyrah: That’s honestly been the part that has me ready to tear my desk in half.
Hell, if these people had been white and democrats, they would have been herded onto buses and left to rot, not wandering the damn park three hours after curfew. Not giving interviews on national outlets. Not chilling in the hotel lounge sipping whatever the fuck these people sip when they’re not behaving like the absolute God-damned heathens they are.
Minorities?? Shit. The capitol cops would have run out of body bags thirty minutes in and the shootings would still be going on this morning.
I really don’t know how we fix this. But we better think of something, white folks.
And it’s all so stupid. Those raggedy trash-asses are on this bullshit ’cause they don’t feel special enough! Maybe I’m crazy, but I think they’re jealous of outgroups. They honestly feel like everyone gets a special uplifting super cool backstory but them. Everyone gets to be the hero who overcomes adversity and they’re stuck apologizing because papa’s popaw’s pepaw was the villain of history. They are angry and frightened and resentful because they have nothing to be proud of and are scared to death inside that someone is gonna point out in front of everyone how utterly, crushingly dull they are. The fucking boiled-chicken tribe, strutting around in the emperor’s new hand-me-downs.
And every day these affronts to their ego present them the cjance toascend, to repudiate old sins, to be better. Their super cool backstory is the redemption of putting aside old chains and hungry ghosts and becoming their own, new selves.
They take the past as an insult, when it’s actually a door out of the prison.
And I don’t know how to fix that.
Sorry for the rant, but damn what a 48 hours…
This is the energy Joe Biden’s going to need going into dealing with this.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: My hat is off to the 19 year old Antifa kids for so effectively passing as 45-50 year old diabetics.
Credit where credit is due: Missouri lawmakers address ‘domestic terrorism’ in DC on first day of session
I was not expecting to pass on anything positive from a Missouri Republican today. Mike Parson on the other hand spoke in weasel, as per usual:
Yeah, I’ll bet.
@Immanentize: I’ll believe it when I see it.
I’ve been kind of vein-popping for the last 18 hours or so, but the bottom line is that “the Storm” did not prevent the election becoming final, there were objections but not as many objectors as predicted, and reachable people (i.e., non-consumers of Fox, OANN, and worse) got a good look at who these people and their enablers are. Difficult to believe that anyone other than asshole fellow travelers could have watched that stuff and avoided yelling “Those assholes!” at the TV.
Someone (can’t remember who) tweeted that Durbin giving it to Cruz while maintaining eye contact with him was her kink. I agree.
Seriously considering applying for one of those plum jobs as a guard at a FEMA re-education camp.
@TS (the original): Well, he’s not the same he was 8 months ago. But the seeds of this were evident 4 years ago. Sorry (not!), Mick.
Heh. I preemptively blocked a few people on FB last night because I just could not stop commenting.
@debbie: I noticed it starting about a month ago. I guess one of their producers suddenly grew a pair. Either that, or the news writers were getting sick of coming up with ever-more ridiculous circumlocutions like “The President’s remarks appeared to be at variance with what we can determine to be facts and reality…” every time Trump spoke.
Or, y’know. Maybe they’re just dogshit golems in Edgarsuits.
I’unno. I’m a little brainfried these days.
@trnc: Schumer suggested they would eliminate the filibuster if Dems won the Senate.
Honestly, I say keep it but restore the old rules. You need to stand there and talk. None of this secret indefinite hold bullshit. As soon as you can no longer stand there and talk, the filibuster is over and you have a normal vote, or with 60 votes you can cut the spectacle short.
I think they must have used those Mission: Impossible plastic masks, too, in order to so accurately impersonate well-known white supremacists and Trump supporters.
The federal AGs for the north and south districts of Ohio have said they will prosecute any Ohioans found to have been part of the mob insurrection.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
That’s sure as hell what it feels like.
Wow! That one took me a minute.
Right, “falsehoods,” “unsubstantiated,” etc. have been floating around for a while. I listen daily, and this morning was the first the actual “lie” word was uttered.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Ken: They probably have technology that isn’t even available to moviemakers, what with all that Soros money.
@satby: Smart move. I thought of calling out last night, but it went okay. No one talked about it but one person, and I just walked away.
@Betty Cracker: The issue is Trump issuing a blanket pardon.
@Baud: My Twitter Tribe does. She was right about every damn thing and was pilloried.
Can we seriously start doxxing these terrorists already? I hope not a one of them can get a job or find a place to live evermore. They had their fifteen minutes of fame, let them suffer the consequences for the rest of their miserable deplorable lives.
@Spanky: Worried that he might put someone worse in? Worse than themselves?
@Subsole: That was DELICIOUS!
Just Some Fuckhead
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” – Voltaire.
@Elizabelle: I watched MSNBC last night and every anchor/panelist was saying that.
Purging law enforcement at all levels across the country of white supremacists would be a good start. Police academies and recruiters have to be forced to weed these guys out. I don’t know what kind of carrots and sticks the federal government can use, but I really hope Garland at DOJ will do something around this.
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: There is probably no way to reach your wife’s father. But I have a gullible friend who has also swallowed the MAGA line whole. Yesterday I sent him the British IT network’s video report made by their journalist and cameraman. They had accompanied the mob up the stairs and into the Capitol. He let me know it made an impression. (I tagged the report with “some people say these were Antifa” to pique his interest, but he could see that the rioters obviously were MAGA fanatics.)
@Martin: Filibusters never worked that way. The actual filibuster was infinite quorum calls that forced the majority to be present, since adjournment for no quorum was as good as any other inaction.
The long speeches were grandstanding since cloture rules allowed one last speech before the vote.
@debbie: Yeah, that’s probably a bridge too far for any Misery prosecutors.
@hueyplong: Shit, I’m ready to do it for free.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Booger: I’ve already seen a number of them identified on twitter, often in their hometown newspapers
@TS (the original): I don’t think you get to choose which part of the Bergen-Belsen camp guard experience you signed up for, asswipe…
Dorothy A. Winsor
Ted Lieu is right
@trnc: That might not be as heavy a lift as it was three days ago.
I’m wondering if yesterday didn’t spur some of the moderates to reexamine their ability to work with their goodbuddychum GOP colleagues…
@The Thin Black Duke: Yup. Media folks who are screaming this morning are also part of the problem. I had to quit watching Maher.
When the dust settles 3 things are clear, Joe Biden will be president, Nancy Pelosi will be speaker of the house, and Chuck Schumer will be majority leader of the Senate. The angry outburst from a mob of demented cosplaying confederates didn’t change that. Yesterday was a good morning in GA, a bad day in DC and good night and good riddance to Trump after the certification of Electoral College votes.
@Elizabelle: I forget now where I saw it this morning — CNN? FTFNYT? — but lots of LE commentators were saying that this was a a complete cock-up by the Capitol and DC police and heads need to roll. At least one admitted that part of the problem was that a lot of cops obviously sympathized with these rioters and terrorists. As I observed here yesterday, there were also probably a lot of off-duty cops in the ranks of the MAGA mob whom they deferred to.
Not everybody at the Capitol was necessarily at the earlier rally on the Ellipse.
@Martin: I really like this idea.
We even get to cast ourselves as the restorers of traditions perverted by the GOP.
Anybody got Manchin’s #??
@OzarkHillbilly: My rep, Vicky Hartzler, is also an insurrectionist. By my count, there are 6 Missouri Reps and one Senator who aided and abetted sedition. And the shitty thing is those traitorous assholes will probably be re-elected.
@Kathleen: Good to hear.
I just watched a five-minute episode of John Dillermand, the Danish children’s TV show about the guy with the very very long penis. Nothing sexual or offensive about the humour, which is kid-safe after all, but it is weird.
Thanks a lot. I almost punched through my computer screen at these lines when I read them.
@jonas: Congress should extend hate crime laws to cover law enforcement policy. That’s why it was enacted in the first place – so that the feds could step in when the good old boys chose to let their friends off the hook. Clearly we didn’t go far enough. The sanctions on police departments for civil rights violations isn’t enough. It needs to be a federal crime to implement those policies in the first place.
There also needs to be consequences for elected officials lying to the public. Basically, all elected officials in their official duties should be held to the same standard as we hold people giving testimony. It’s absurd that we can haul someone before Congress, demand they answer truthfully, but have members of Congress grandstand for 5 minutes telling lies. Same for law enforcement.
@Spanky: That’s it. That’s what they sip on – sugar.
@SiubhanDuinne: It won’t take long before he’s banned again.
@Martin: I wonder if Devin Nunes is still getting his Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Talk about lying and grandstanding. William Barr too (misrepresenting the Mueller report’s findings).
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I got into it with my RWNJ dad and brother last night, who have followed their cult leader all the way down the rabbit hole. Ended up being the bigger man and told them both I was dropping the conversation before I said something I’d regret, so hey – progress! But what a pair of un-American scumbags.
We were all supposed to have a (delayed, obvs) Christmas visit this coming weekend. I think I’m going to pull the plug on that and reschedule for a couple weeks from now.
@OzarkHillbilly: So was mine, Billy Long, although I’m not sure whether or not he actually followed through with it. Probably. We both share that traitor Hawley, though. You know all the MAGAs just love him now!
@Baud: Does the Washington Examiner explain how our clearly superior MAGA betters somehow failed to spot the traitors in their midst? Asking for a friend.
Jimmy Carter and draft dodgers.
The 25th amendment stories are circulating and one said they need 7 cabinet members and Veep to force the Beast out. My question is do “acting” cabinet members get a vote? Who the hell is the AG now anyway?
I read /heard that part of the terrorist attack plan was to take hostages and one thug was pictured with zip ties. Did anyone hear anything about that? I couldn’t find any confirmation though I admit I didn’t read all the WaPo articles.
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@jonas: 81,283,485 people (at a minimum) know exactly how it happened – as do a large proportion of the remaining voters – who refuse to admit what they can see.
@Elizabelle: He got it on Monday. Nobody covered that disgraceful act.
Yep. What makes me mad is that none of the people he asked about this turned it around on him by asking him what he thought the solution was.
Also, the rally was on the Ellipse, 1½ miles from the Capitol.
@Kathleen: That was the backup plan in Michigan. One of the photos from yesterday shows one of the insurrectionists climbing over some seats, or a low wall with a fist full of zip cuffs.
I mean, some brought weapons, there were 2 reported pipe bombs. At least some of them seem to have been running that Michigan plan.
@Amir Khalid: Yeah, that is really, really, goofy and weird. One of my kids recently got deep into a quirky 70’s Finnish cartoon series about a bunch of little, hippo-like creatures called Moomins. As far as I know, they don’t seem to have 50 foot-long prehensile penises, though.
@Ocotillo: Yes, acting get a vote.
@Martin: Thank you. I wasn’t sure if tweets I saw were about Michigan plot or DC treason
@OzarkHillbilly: Mike Parsons. Sweet Jesus, what a dumb fuck. And a damned liar. We both know he was glued to the tv, watching it all.
@Martin: I am surprised that no one on BJ has linked to the actual amendment. There is a four-day window for VP and cabinet rebels to dispute President’s claim. So, duh, the drafters were aware that an insane President might pull the stunt you mention.
In pertinent part (IANAL but it is a cool expresssion):
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. (emphasis added).
Me too, I live in an area where the majority just love them some Trump. I was almost shouting at one of them at work yesterday, and that’s not like me. Yesterday they were telling me that mob was antifa!!! Another one of them told me you’d never convince him that Trump lost fairly, that there was massive fraud. I asked him if he thought all the other Republicans elected were also elected fraudulently, which gave him pause for a minute. I asked him if Missouri’s election was OK, and he said yes because Trump won. I asked him if he only thinks elections are valid if Republicans win, and he said no but blah blah blah so on. He said he doesn’t trust elections anymore.
@trnc: That’s a job for the new senators we elect in 2022. There were at least 3-4 great chances before yesterday, probably more today.
Unsurprising. These are the guys who planned to execute Gov. Whitmer.
I object to Rick Scott not being flung into the Sun.
@Martin: Adorable. Morning Blows can go suck their fascist orange cash cow’s asshole.
@Martin: My mom posts on Parler. I told her back in 2016, “If you want to keep talking to me, don’t talk politics to me.” We’ve stuck to that, but it’s not easy.
I am embarrassed for these middle aged white people who are up the ass of conspiracy theories.
These are the 21st century jackasses screaming at young Black children who dare to attend their schools.
I’m honestly pretty ready to get into the face of any neighbor remotely even pitying those poor poor understandable dears sooooo frustrated at the election. They’ll likely attempt it with a pinky raised in their best doyenne of the golf club manner so I need to prepare carefully some long-term stiletto to their genteel self-esteem comments to add to my basic urge to get in their grill.
@Elizabelle: Richmond TV station WRIC had a couple of good interviews with VA 7th District Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger and neighboring 4th District Congressman Don McEachin, speaking about yesterday’s events at the Capitol. They can be found at wric.com. (You may already have seen them.)
@Quiltingfool: For a while I thought Misery dodged a bullet by getting rid of Grietens, but Parsons is just a lower key version of the same stupid, hateful bullshit.
So much about yesterday’s events anger and horrify me. This is a small potatoes gripe, but we didn’t get to fully savor the joy of Senators- Elect Reverend Warnock and Jon Ossoff! We didn’t get to celebrate the hard work put in by so many people in Georgia! Stacey Abrams! These MAGA sonofbitches do their damndest to steal our hope and joy.
We cannot stop. We do not have the luxury of saying, “Well, Joe and Kamala will take care of things, we can just laze around and not be involved.” We did that to President Obama. We elected him and then we quit. We thought that man would just take care of everything and we didn’t need to do a thing — and look what that got us.
Everyone is tired. We don’t know how to fix the MAGATs. We can’t fix them. But we can run over them. Look at the Black folks. They didn’t quit. They kept fighting, because they are fighting for their very lives. We must follow their example. They are the patriots.
@debbie: If I am making the correct assumption about what you mean by “power salute”, Trump gave that several times from the podium right before he spoke to the insurrectionists in person.
@ryk: I think Greitens was more dangerous. He was on a fast track to the Oval Office. Parsons is a run of the mill dumb fuck placeholder. Most of the time he doesn’t know whether to shit, run or go blind.
@rikyrah: If they knew, why didn’t they warn the Capital Police, the CD mayor and the press?
@Soprano2: You should tell him that you don’t trust him anymore because he can’t tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
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@WaterGirl: What makes you think the officials didn’t know in advance and chose to do…nothing?
FBI, Homeland Security, White House Advisers Foresaw Possible Riots, Looked the Other Way
@Geminid: I did not. Thank you!
@WaterGirl: Maybe they did.
And under the conservative democrats “look forward not backward” policy, Trump could be free and clear instigating the traitors to finish the job.
@Elizabelle: This. veterans aren’t special; we’re just like other civilians with a different mix of life experiences. Some veterans are good citizens, some are not. General Flynn is a veteran and a total scumbag.
@Elizabelle: You are welcome! I like both McEachin and Spanberger. McEachin played an important role in drafting the House Democrats’ climate change legislation in the last Congress. Congressman McEachin is in his forties, and i hope he and Spanberger will be around a while.
@taumaturgo: Fuck you so hard, troll.
J R in WV
Mr. Evans should be arrested by federal LEO folks immediately, and forced to reveal who paid for his charter bus, and ID everyone else on the bus. Then all those people should be arrested and put away for as long as Riot and Insurrection and Sedition charges allow them to be put away.
Shipped to Gitmo would be my preference, although Florence CO is a pretty secure prison in an inhospitable place, high desert country.
I don’t care much if they put him out of the WV House of Delegates, as long as he’s jailed for a substantial amount of hard time. Can’t vote if you’re properly locked up in a federal pen. What a despicable piece of shit!
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@jonas: The Moomins are classic Finnish children’s literature. That says something about the Finns, maybe.
Which is more likely? FBI / DC cops decided to keep a low police presence because they thought that the risk of a Capitol attack was low, or they thought that by keeping a small police presence would lower the temperature, and lessen the chances of police / mob clashes? Is there another theory as to why the Capitol was so poorly protected?
The Capitol Police were badly outnumbered (and likely outgunned). Any attempts to arrest rioters inside the building would have ended badly.
‘Breathe, y’all. The statute of limitation on substantially all of the Federal crimes that were committed yesterday is five years, and there is plenty of high-quality video out there that can be used to identify the offenders. Let the process play out. An airtight case tried to a conviction a year from now is better than a hastily assembled case full of holes, from which the bad guy walks.
Tommy Tuberville’s Senate career picked up where his coaching career left off, with a pair of lopsided losses. Unfortunately, there are no rich boosters who can buy out his contract after three years of failure.
@Tall Tom: Beau of the Fifth Column has spoken extensively about demonstrations and what to do and not to do about them: he thought protests in Oregon were being handled catastrophically badly, BECAUSE the police were attacking the protests as hard as possible. He says that when you do that, for every one protester you strike down, ten others are radicalized in the community.
In that light, there is merit to the police not erupting in a frenzy of violence: creates martyrs, gives the impression that it’s a legitimate battle against terrible oppressors. Instead, the MAGA trolls came off as looters and vandals, which they are.
I get that people wanted to see them all shot as traitors and an attacking group of terrorists, which they ALSO are: they’re just not very good at it, otherwise they would have been able to murder Congresspeople and capture hostages with their zip-ties brought for that purpose. Because of how things were handled, no Congresspeople were murdered and no hostages were taken, but it’s very hard and implausible to deny the nature of who invaded, looted and vandalized the Capitol… and of course who told ’em to do it.
This is not wholly a bad outcome.
Big additional Beau take-away: if they could have enlisted the military (or indeed more of the police) as support, THEY WOULD HAVE. That was their moment, and that’s as much as they could make of it. They are there, they are assholes, they have now pissed off Congress and the MSM and they’re not going to change or get significantly better at terrorism than they already are. This is the death of the GOP and Trumpism: the Right is irrevocably split, over this.
Five year statute of limitations. That’s comforting.
@Baud: Scott is just trying to score points in advance with all the right-wing Pennsylvanians who will move to Florida in the next few years.
@Tony Jay: But would Antifa have shelled out for all that Trump merch, knowing who makes a commission on that stuff?
@O. Felix Culpa: Way late to this, so you will never see it, but holy shit. The more I learn, the more distressing this is.