Joe Biden says his stimulus package price tag will be 'high' https://t.co/z0aKjpaiRm pic.twitter.com/g5PbkIPH7p
— Bloomberg (@business) January 8, 2021
Biden says the next COVID relief package will be in the trillions of dollars. Details to be released next Thursday. Says if the US does not act now, it will get much worse later.
— Katie Simpson (@CBCKatie) January 8, 2021
Biden says Trump not attending the inauguration is “one of the few things he and I have ever agreed on."
"He exceeded even my worst notions about him. He's been an embarrassment to the country, embarrassed us around the world. He's not worthy to hold that office.”
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) January 8, 2021
Biden says there are two ways people are inspired. By inspirational leaders and by terrible leaders. Says Trump has ripped the bandaid off, showing the world how terrible he is.
— Katie Simpson (@CBCKatie) January 8, 2021
President-Elect Joe Biden is asked if he thinks it’s a good idea for House Democrats to introduce articles of impeachment, as early as Monday. Biden says he’s long thought Trump was unfit for the job, says what Congress does is up to them. Says his priority is COVID.
— Katie Simpson (@CBCKatie) January 8, 2021
Apart from keeping our razor-thin hold on the Senate, I think Bernie will be in his element jousting with the Repubs on the Senate Committee on the Budget…
Joe Biden says he seriously considered nominating Bernie Sanders as Labor secretary, but that he and Sanders agreed that he should remain in the Senate.
— Matt Berman (@Mr_Berman) January 8, 2021
Asked if Sens. Cruz and Hawley should resign, President-elect Biden says: "I think they should just be flat beaten next time they run … They’re part of a big lie. A big lie."
— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) January 8, 2021
Shame on @JoeBiden for comparing @HawleyMO and @tedcruz to Nazi propagandists like Goebbels. Though their amorality and twisted ambition are a match, they lack the oily dignity, independence, or the skin in the game. The better comparison is Baghdad Bob. pic.twitter.com/XDF4BC56d1
— BannedHat (@Popehat) January 8, 2021
(Safely distanced) party planning:
“President and Mrs. Obama look forward to attending the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on January 20 in Washington, D.C.,” @KatieMHill says.
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) January 8, 2021
MattF
Not a senile doofus. That whole argument has evaporated.
Baud
@MattF:
I know, right. All those media people who took it seriously have memory holed their complicity.
debbie
“Sir, it backfired.”
I so enjoyed listening to the litany of more and more closed and locked Twitter accounts.
Betty Cracker
Longer account of Biden’s remarks about Hawley, Cruz and Trump via Dallas News:
I’m so glad he’s going there and used the “big lie” language because we have a serious fucking problem in this country — millions of yahoos believing the “big lie.” If we don’t shut that lie down and make muttering “stop the steal” a sign of complete lunacy that disqualifies the mutterer from being taken seriously, we’ll have another “lost cause” situation that will fester. These people need to be shamed and shunned until they crawl back under their rocks.
Amy Klobuchar will lead the probe into the Capitol coup. Something to look forward to!
p.a.
The fucking security apparatus better get their act together. The pig people have ben open about their plans inauguration week. It’s already been shown Biden etc have concerns about the Secret fucking Service being infiltrated by tRumpists.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Nice. Almost makes me feel sorry for the insurrectionists.
Baud
@p.a.:
It won’t just be the Capitol police this time. It’ll be everyone and the mothers.
mrmoshpotato
Adorable chickenshit cowards.
I’m glad the Rethuglicans agree they and their 74+ million trash supporters need to be fired into the Sun.
germy
This lip-sync is as good as Sarah Cooper’s. I love these people:
Baud
@germy:
Holy cow. That’s really good.
MattF
Useful German word.
JPL
@p.a.: Even if the House asked the acting Secretary of Defense to testify why there was a delay in calling up the National Guard, he wouldn’t show up. It will be months before we get answers, and unfortunately that is not soon enough.
Joe Falco
We’re not there yet, but I’m getting increasingly hopeful of how the Senate will operate without Mitch having a death grip on legislation that moves there from the House. There’s still plenty of rules in the Senate that Republicans can game out to short-circuit the legislative process, and I hope Senate Democrats are prepared to match that eventual response.
debbie
@germy:
Humbolt Blue shared that in Adam’s thread last night. I must have watched it 20 times, laughing just as much each time. I think it’s what got me to fall asleep not filled with rage.
The kid apparently has other videos floating around.
germy
A good point from Kyle Griffin:
We don’t count as real Americans, is my guess…
hueyplong
@germy: Spectacular.
At this moment we live in a world in which that kid is on the Internets and Trump isn’t.
germy
debbie
@germy:
I’d like to see Joe loudly push back against McConnell’s leaked directive about dragging out Nancy’s impeachment plan long enough to push it to the Biden administration as a political comeback strategy. No more of this same old, same old crap.
germy
@hueyplong:
Trump can’t post tweets, but I assume he can still read (at whatever grade level he achieved)
germy
@debbie:
I didn’t know about that.
Interesting that people are leaking the turtle. Or is he leaking himself?
MattF
@Joe Falco: I think Romney, Murkowski, and Manchin will form an independent ‘centrist’ bloc. There’s nothing McConnell can do to stop that.
Aleta
Lectern (and gavel) recovered (Post); lectern looter arrested (Miami H).
Aleta
@germy: He’s always reminded me of the King and the Duke.
germy
p.a.
I’m definitely not an optimist: given the police actions at the capitol and the apparent number of current and former cops and military in the mob, assuming x degree of infiltration, the image of Sadat’s ending just flashed in my mind.
Spanky
@germy: That kid’s gonna go far.
Geminid
@MattF: If Manchin, Murkowski, and Romney get Kyrsten Sinema on board, they could have their own Squad. A new Mod Squad.
germy
@Aleta:
“Johnson is a stay-at-home-dad who lives with his wife and their five children in their Parrish home.”
(From the link)
Spanky
@germy:
Eww! Is that a euphemism for something?
mrmoshpotato
@Aleta: Recovered from where?
TS (the original)
So is there a current US Government? Education & Transport secretaries resigned, most of the rest refuse to talk to anyone or explain what happened on Wednesday. Security in DC seems almost non existent & trump appointees are desperate to leave & find new jobs. Trump is more incensed with twitter than with new impeachment proceedings & has 100% given up on going to work and Pence seems to have gone to ground.
Biden’s team will have never worked so hard to get the country back together – and that is without even considering covid-19 & vaccines.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@germy: Imagine my surprise
debbie
@germy:
Here it is. I can’t imagine anyone loyal to him letting this out:
debbie
@Aleta:
Wish they’d said whether the eBay auction was fake news.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@debbie: Does it make a difference that by the Inauguration, Mitch won’t be in charge any more?
ETA: I’m not sure since I seem to recall something about the Senate having to drop everything else and act on an Impeachment.
Spanky
@TS (the original): Yes, there is a US Government. Each Federal agency has a Continuity of Operations Plan that lays out the chain of succession of command. There is never not someone in charge. That’s why I think the 25th can be invoked at any time, as the Constitution calls for the “principal officers”, not “Secretaries”.
debbie
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
No. He’ll still be plotting and strategizing in some dark, recessed corner somewhere.
germy
I was curious what this asshole had to say, and it’s no surprise:
randy khan
@TS (the original):
The good news is that there are many, many career people still doing their jobs. In practice, by this point most of the appointed people in any Administration aren’t really doing their jobs anyway as they are cleaning out their offices and looking for their next gigs. And, of course, in this case, the less they do between now and January 20, the better.
Immanentize
@Aleta:
Lectern Guy:
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but who was watching the kids??
Immanentize
@Geminid: A new “mod squad” with even less diversity that the one over forty years ago. New “mayo on Wonder served on beige melmac squad” perhaps
TS (the original)
@Spanky:
Thanks – interesting. Some of these folks didn’t get much notice as to having to take over.
Spanky
@Immanentize: Did he take it home as carry-on? I can picture him trying to stow it under the seat.
mrmoshpotato
@germy: I was trying to figure out what that meant, then I saw the author.
She can still go fuck herself.
Ken
And that’s in a normal administration. In this one, most of them were never doing their job.
Also, some of the positions have had such turnover that I expect lately the appointees have just left their stuff in boxes to save time when cleaning out the office.
Spanky
@TS (the original): I suspect the Under-Secretaries still there are still political appointees, so there are still Trumpists in charge. Probably not going to get a lot of direction from the top in the next couple of weeks, so the careerists down below should be doing the usual yeoman’s work. I hope.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize:
Too spicy! ?
TS (the original)
@Immanentize:
Can’t help but think of the outcry against the individual if this had been a “stay at home mom” leaving the kids behind.
hueyplong
Mitch is playing with fire, as the developing narrative is that he’s slow walking this and therefore is solely responsible for whatever horrific thing Trump does on his way out the door
He for damn sure can’t say “No one could have foreseen” or “You guys could have acted too.”
This is the entire point of pushing for immediate impeachment when “realists” tell you it can’t be done.
Spanky
@hueyplong: He don’t care.
Immanentize
News of a different sort — but it’s good:
The Immp went back mid-week (yes when this country was all going crazy) to get tests and a CT regarding his gastric cancer/surgery. We waited two days on pins and needles. Hell we have been on them for a year. And, still cancer free!
But, another battery of such tests again this summer, just to be sure. The Doctor said, “You can assume you will remain cancer free, but I prefer to prove it.” Good line.
On the less good news side, the Immp’s Uni has pushed back his campus return from mid-January to mid-February because Covid has overwhelmed the health care system there. It’s bad in Houston and a good reminder to not let down our guards.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Here’s one I missed in the list of internet companies finally taking action
hueyplong
@Spanky: Guys like that seem immune, until they aren’t.
See Trump, Donald.
citizen dave (aka mad citizen)
@TS (the original): I don’t know if what you’re getting at is how we look to the world, and that it could like a national security the until Jan 20. Might be cool if Pence and Biden made an unprecedented joint appearance to, you know, talk about the transition. Just to show the adversaries that we still have leadership. Would be even better if it happened were trump to leave town early.
I am glad that it sounds like Biden’s vision of uniting the nation is bringing the radical republicans back to reality, and not moving their land of BS.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Immanentize: Thank god for cancer free! That has to be a relief every time, even when you know what the likely result is.
JML
Moscow Mitch, proving that his words from the floor post coup-attempt are hollow. Make statement about preserving democracy? Sure. Take constitutional action to preserve it? Not if it might upset someone on the right. His memo on the impeachment schedule is a classic Bitch McConnell move, laying down a marker to say “If you do this, here’s how I’m going to make sure it doesn’t work.”
The Georgia wins get bigger every day.
Immanentize
@Spanky:
Ha! “I’m sorry sir, you will have to check the lecturn if it doesn’t fit all the way under.”
Ken
@Dorothy A. Winsor: That’ll hurt, since I’m sure he was planning to use that email list extensively for fundraising. Or shop it around to other spammers – it’d be gold, since the spammers would know that the addresses were pre-selected for gullibility.
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor: ???
Immanentize
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I’m sure you can imagine how this weighs on both of us all the time. It’s like knowing a monster may be under your bed even though everytime you look there isn’t one there. So, it is one of those smaller things (expected positive news?) that kind of breaks through the control we maintain.
debbie
@Immanentize:
Great news! ?
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize: When do we get hammer thingies?
ThresherK
The perfect tack, the perfect tone.
gene108
@JPL:
Unlike AG Barr, I am betting AG Garland will enforce Congressional subpoenas.
Not showing up will soon have the weight of law behind it again.
hueyplong
@gene108: But you ask now anyway, so it cannot later be said that “Hey, they never asked before [some horrible shit] happened.”
MomSense
@Immanentize:
Such good news! Happy tears for you and Immp!
zhena gogolia
@Immanentize:
Wonderful!
Chief Oshkosh
I wonder if we need so many military bases in TX and MO. And their NGs need a thorough review, too. No sense in giving insurrections deadly toys to play with. I think that regional needs could be met by expanding bases in NM and IL. As those bases are wound down, we could instead earmark those federal dollars towards mental healthcare, immigrant settlement, and free civics textbooks that very specifically have not been reviewed by the TX Bd of Education.
NotMax
@Immanentize
Huzzah! If ever there was an occasion to break out the bubbly….
Kristine
@Immanentize: glad to hear the good health news. May it continue.
JMS
@Immanentize: if Tim Scott would like to join, then sure. Dems of color seem less likely to “mod”
Mai Naem mobile
@germy: am I the only one who feels guilty laughing at the satirical stuff on these people? Its almost like I am laughing at a mentally ill person.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Mai Naem mobile: Laughing is good.
I can’t find any of this funny right now. And I wasn’t “sad” after Wednesday. I was and am angry. I want these folks to pay.
Immanentize
@JMS: I hadn’t thought about him.
Scott as “Link”
Sinema as “Julie”
Romny as “Pete”
Manchin as “Whoever their Cop Boss was”
NotMax
@Aleta
Florida man? Who would have guessed that?
//
germy
Immanentize
@Mai Naem mobile: @Dorothy A. Winsor:
Laugh or bust furniture in my house while swearing and weeping.
Laughing seems like a better mind calming path.
Immanentize
@germy: Did the Sicknick family just put him on hold for 25 minutes and then tell the VP they were unavailable?
Ken
No. As I said in a long-dead thread (i.e. yesterday), I’m much more angry than amused.
Except the guy who tasered himself to death via his balls. That’s comedy gold, even if it is a direct steal from Idiocracy.
Immanentize
Speaking of at least chortling:
germy
Punchy
@Aleta: Great. Except…..now I fear all those last-minute pardons for all these fuckers.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize: How does one phrase “Sorry all the fascistic/Nazi shit we’ve been fomenting over four years caused our white trash supporters to kill Brian.”?
TS (the original)
@citizen dave (aka mad citizen):
It probably is – because it is how many of us see things down under. It seems utterly weird to have senior people resign 14 days out from when their job ends & sure looks like a government in disarray.
Also true, however, that we are used to parliamentary democracies where the incoming government is sworn into power within days of the election results being finalised.
Having a defeated party run the administration for a couple of months after an election defeat seems rather unusual. You would be used to this as a regular event.
PsiFighter37
If impeachment is going to end up delaying the start of the next Senate session, I would probably pass. Fuck McConnell – I hope that he croaks while Beshear is in office, and a Democrat takes his seat.
Quinerly
@Immanentize: ❤️
BC in Illinois
Amy Siskind on Twitter informs us that Trump has “just ONE SCARAMUCCI” left.
SiubhanDuinne
@Immanentize:
Happiest news in a long time! I’m so glad to read these words.
JPL
@Immanentize: Phew! Two days of hell waiting for a life time of good news. I’m assuming that the next test will also be cancer free.
trnc
Oh, really? It’s all up to Biden, and they have to agency here? Instead of privately calling Biden, they should be making public statements. I hope he’s urging them to do that. He should out any who don’t. Recent history indicates they’re going to undermine him and set him up to fail.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize: Comforting thought.
citizen dave (aka mad citizen)
@Dorothy A. Winsor: “I can’t find any of this funny right now.” Me too. I love to laugh and will at all kinds of twitter/youtube stuff, even on this event. But mostly mad and sad. I watched a couple of the late night monologues–Kimmel and Colbert (who “did it live!”) and found them hollow. They go through each real detail, make a joke, move on to the next. Just doesn’t seem like the time for that, but I understand they have to fill the airtime.
JPL
@gene108: I agree, but it will take some time. When he finally testifies, I bet he points fingers at those in the White House. Hopefully MSM doesn’t treat the information lightly.
It should end any dreams that Pence has about running for president.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Aleta:
Bum ass “stay at home father of five” is about to become “jailed, divorced father of five with a rapidly aggregating child support arrearage and the sort of job prospects that inure to underearning white guys after release from prison.”
Maybe he can learn a trade inside so he can get off his dead ass.
Amir Khalid
@Immanentize:
The Doctor is wise. (He’s not that Doctor by any chance, is he?) The news is marvellous.
Ken
Possible, but (1) they failed Trump, (2) they’re of no further use to him, (3) they make him look bad, and of course (4) they dress low-class. So he might write them off. Some of them already feel betrayed by his “hostage video”, according to some tweets and facebook ranks that were re-posted in the comments section of this fine blog.
Also, I for one would like the courts to test the claim that the pardon power extends to crimes before a conviction is made, or even before an indictment.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Immanentize:
I’ve seen this sort of family repeatedly in neglect/abuse/dependency cases. Video gaming lazy, neglectful dad, mom who works a couple of shit jobs. When the oldest isn’t looking after the youngest while dad parks his ass on the sofa with a tablet and piling dishes in the sink and living in filth, they’re being fobbed off onto the various grandparents and siblings.
Benw
@Immanentize: yay cancer free!
KenK
@TS (the original): @#48 maybe the kids were better off with dad in absentia
germy
@Immanentize:
germy
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
He was described in one newspaper article as a Furniture Maker and Stay At Home Dad.
Maybe he can teach woodworking in prison?
trnc
Before the insurrection, I grudgingly believed impeachment would have been dicey. Since then, anyone who would be divided are the ones who supported the insurrection. Whether or not their insanity is temporary, they are not worth listening or thinking about for a single second.
Geminid
The Mod Squad’s breakfasts might be popular. Murkowski brings salmon, Manchin brings country ham, Sinema has the chipotle sauce, and Romney brings Utah honey. A smiling Chuck Schumer will drop off bagels and schmooze for a couple minutes. Invitations will be given on the Senate floor. Sinema asks Corey Booker, “what would be good Vegan fare when you come Tuesday? And are you doing that 10k Saturday?” A cheerful Manchin says, “Angus! Come on by Lisa’s office tomorrow morning. And bring Sue!”
Early legislative fruits of these breakfasts may include the Warren-Murkowski Clean Energy and Conservation Act.
PPCLI
@gene108: This is one of the millions of reasons why the House/Senate should hold extensive hearings on what went down over the last four years, including the topics of the Mueller report, the Ukraine call, the millions of Hatch act violations, etc. They can actually put people under oath and force them to testify, with subpoenas enforced. Give Kushner the Hilary-Benghazi treatment.
Especially for the people who get the pardons that Trump is about to hand out like Halloween candy. We need to put Stone under oath and compel testimony. Then either he can tell the truth, in which case we’ll get some indication of the dimensions of the treasonous interactions with Wikileaks, etc. Or he will lie, in which case he can be charged with a post-pardon Federal crime.
Hopefully a lot of the people Trump pardoned will see time for lying under oath about what they did.
Immanentize
@germy: But it’s always the last 10% where things go wrong!
Spanky
@Ken: Since the US legal system supposes a suspect is innocent until proven guilty, I think such a claim has real legs. Also, IANAL.
NotMax
Self-pardon on Sunday? Can’t use the pardon for crimes or actions cited in duly passed articles of impeachment, which would appear to be happening Monday.
It would not halt impeachment as that is a legislative, not a judicial, procedure but would (theoretically*) aim to short circuit judicial indictment after leaving office.
*Am putting to the side for the moment whether or not a self-pardon is a valid application of the power. That’s a different argument.
Immanentize
@Geminid: That sounds pretty good, actually.
trnc
@germy: Good point. I keep hearing about the Repub Governors Association funding the “rally,” but not any other details.
Spanky
@Geminid: You forgot the part where they all ride in on unicorns.
Nelle
@Immanentize: I think there is a corner of my brain on alert for you and your son. I don’t pray in the way I was brought up. Don’t light candles and all that. But know that your journey has touched me and you always have an advocate for good news and healing times for you and your son over in this bit of, where am I now? Oh, Iowa.
Ken
Yeah, I noticed one of the responses to that tweet had a Windows “blue screen of death”.
There was also a mock-up (I assume…) with “Pornhub update: Donald Trump has been banned from our platform.”
Punchy
@Ken: Yes, clearly IANAL but I cannot believe pardons are legit for people who havent even been charged/indicted yet, let alone convicted. Maybe Im wrong.
However, the brazenness with which they did this…..mugging for cameras, selfies….tells me they were told ahead of time pardons would save their ass.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@germy:
“Furniture maker” means he’s putting together something from a box at WalMart, maybe a bookshelf. He started making it two months ago, but left the glue for the wood pegs open when he took a break to respond to a Twitter DM from some woman flogging her OnlyFans account, and then got so distracted for three hours that it dried out.
He’ll get back to it when he gets new glue, so stop nagging him about every little thing.
NotMax
@spanky
Pardon for Nixon was just such a peremptory application of the power.
germy
This interview with Congresswoman Jayapal:
The part of the interview where she wept was a gut punch for me.
Ken
You forgot “And why isn’t my dinner on the table, bitch!”
trnc
OK, I get that Mitch will never, ever miss an opportunity to undermine democrats, but I fail to see the evil plan here. I assumed that there was a good chance of the trial not happening until after the 20th. How is that bad, especially if details come out by then of elected republicans’ involvement in the insurrection? Sure, it will suck all the media oxygen up for a couple of days, but I don’t really see that working against Biden. His administration will be carrying on with business. If he really needs to cut through the impeachment story with a big announcement in the first few days, a short press conference ought to do it, but he’ll continue to make announcements about plans throughout the next two weeks.
Is my cynicism meter failing me?
narya
I’m angry, yes–enraged, even. I thought Colbert’s rage was good to see on Wednesday night, too. And, at the same time, humor not only gets us through, it is the thing that narcissists (and so many men . . .) most fear. Humor is a powerful weapon–if you can make someone laugh, then you have bypassed all of the logical arguments. It’s the ultimate “in a nutshell” strategy.
Completely unrelated: the only side effects of Shot 1 are a sore arm. I don’t usually get even that, and in this case it mostly feels like I caught it on a corner cabinet or something, not, full-arm-soreness.
Also: great Immp news
ETA: GREAT email from Penzey’s this morning. So glad I got gift cards for my team from them.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Ken:
Followed by “My phone? Why do you want to look through my phone? Get your hands off it goddammit, it’s mine!”
narya
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: three HOURS? more like three minutes.
trnc
Job 1 in Schumer’s senate needs to be eliminating the legislative filibuster.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@NotMax: He’d have to restrain from criming between then and Jan 20 when he loses the pardon power. I don’t know if he can do it
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@narya:
Ah, another person with those fond memories of that glue, ha!
citizen dave (aka mad citizen)
@trnc: Google has nothing on the RGA, but you might be thinking of the Republican Attorneys Generals Association, who appear to have funded and/or did robocalls telling people where to go. The incoming Chairman of said group, who is the Alabama AG, says he will investigate himself (https://www.alreporter.com/2021/01/08/alabama-ag-says-hell-investigate-his-groups-role-in-deadly-riot/)
Time for Talkin’ John Birch Society Blues. The last four lines:
“Well I finally started thinking straight when I run out of things to investigate
Couldn’t imagine nothing else so now I’m home, investigating myself.
Hope I don’t find out too much.
Good God.”
Ken
But never tested in court (and unless we want to have our own little Cadaver Synod, won’t be). I want clarification on whether the pardon power exists before conviction, or before indictment. I also want clarification on whether it can be used without naming the specific crimes which were committed, since I’m sure we’ll see a lot of those in the next ten days.
And while I’m building my wish list, can we take a look at whether the President can pardon himself, and whether the Justice Department can take action against the President? IIRC, the legal basis for the latter is still only a fifty-year-old memo.
trnc
Yup. My dream also includes Rand not being able to continue and being replaced.
narya
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Hah! I was actually thinking about the amount of time it would take him on PronHub.
topclimber
@PsiFighter37:
@debbie:
I posted a day or so ago about what I think is a viable path to impeachment, one that does not result in Trump’s trial distracting from Dems getting a start in the Senate from Day 1.
As I read the impeachment law, the House does not send over its impeachment findings until impeachment managers have been named. When impeaching a sitting President, you want to do it fast. When impeaching one for the purpose of punishing him (taking away perks, preventing another shot at elective office) you drag it out.
Let’s say the House votes impeachment but then takes a year to research its case. Surely the impeachment managers want to be thorough and Schumer would not press them for charges like Mitch did on the first go round.
You make the case and bring it to the Senate in time for the runup to the 2022 elections. Remind everybody about what we know now about Trump’s sedition, plus what looking under rocks for a year finds out about him and his enablers. Make vulnerable GOP Senators go on record supporting him and or explaining their own collusion.
Bottom line: Impeach the f—ker and use the Agency the House has in the process to control the timing.
Another interesting fact: Folks have been worried about how some Dems are listed as “No” votes on the KOS list. What I haven’t seen discussed is only about a dozen GOP Reps have said the same. This can’t be right, right?
H/T TRNC
Benw
LOL Republicans who thirstily followed Trump for 4 years asking Biden to “unite the country”. F them. I hope the answer was “we’re moving ahead with Democratic priorities. Get on the train or stay on the tracks.”
There go two miscreants
That has only been sustainable up until now. The public didn’t realize how fragile that (and a lot of other stuff) really was.
NotMax
@TS (the original)
One of the differences being that in a non-parliamentary democracy we can predict with absolute certainty when an election will be held, which allows for greater latitude than a system which accommodates snap elections.
stinger
@Immanentize: That is excellent news.
evodevo
@debbie: According to Snopes…it’s unclear at this time whether it was a joke listing, or something posted in 2019…
the pollyanna from hell
Forget the horse-race, I want immediate impeachment to show that we can go after the ringleaders even before the minions.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker:
Wait, what?
Gin & Tonic
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: And just as I was reading this ( you really *know* these people) I got a Twitter alert that lectern guy has been arrested. I have a feeling this is the first day of the rest of his life.
debbie
@Mai Naem mobile:
Not me. They are less mentally ill than they are absolutely delusional.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Yeah. My reaction was somewhat more colorful (and voluble).
debbie
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Mockery is one way to deal with the overpowering feeling of anger.
WaterGirl
@Immanentize: Yippee! Hurray! Hallelujah !!!
debbie
@evodevo:
Thanks.
stacib
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Thank you! Dude is an unemployed bum, which is exactly how he would have been described had he been anything other than a white guy.
debbie
@trnc:
He’s cynically twisting the situation into a winning strategy for his party. There was a brief moment after 9/11 when everyone was an American and politics took a distant back seat. Is it too much to expect the same now?
LurkerNoLonger
One of the many good things that happened with the Georgia election is now there will be actual investigations lead by people who want to find out the truth about what happened on Wednesday.
debbie
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
The wife’s practice received a Yelp review recommending her, if only because she will need the money for bail and legal fees for that clown.
lowtechcyclist
@hueyplong:
Until the House acts, there’s nothing to blame him for.
Why they aren’t voting today, I have no idea.
Oh wait, here we are:
https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1347657854774243328
Christine Pelosi: “Why tweet snark when you can read the House Rules? The House meets Monday; to do so otherwise needs unanimous consent and McCarthy objects.”
Which makes the decision to recess Wednesday instead of Friday (as originally scheduled) even more inexplicable.
Another Scott
@p.a.: I would expect that the various security agencies will have a big list of people that they want to interview who fly into DCA, BWI, and IAD in coming days…
“Hi Mr. Punisher. Good to see you again. Please come with me, we’d like to ask you a few questions…”
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@mrmoshpotato: Only Democrats have agency.
It’s just Science.
Grr…
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@germy:
Reuters:
So sad. He’s a Real American Heartland Job Creator from Arkansas with Economic Anxiety being Crushed by Jackboot Regulation and Taxes!!11ONE.
Grrr….
More here from the DoJ (13 charged in federal court, 40 in superior court).
Cheers,
Scott.
Calouste
@germy: Not to mention that some of these people were staying at the Grand Hyatt. Can’t be bothered to look up how much exactly that would be, but $500/night wouldn’t surprise me.
Geminid
@Calouste: And some people would put air fare and lodging on a credit card just to take part in an historic event. But it seems like there were backers picking up expenses. That’s one of many stories I hope are brought to light.
Bill Arnold
@mrmoshpotato:
Jill Stein has no clue how much she is despised.
Bill Arnold
@trnc:
Or weaken it, which is more possible politically.
Matt McIrvin
@trnc: He’s gotta reach out to those Ohio diner guys, stat!