Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

I did not have telepathic declassification on my 2022 bingo card.

Come on, man.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Second rate reporter says what?

Infrastructure week. at last.

Let there be snark.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

In my day, never was longer.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

After roe, women are no longer free.

People are complicated. Love is not.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

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In the past few days, explanations about why 2/3 of the Republican Caucus voted against certifying the election have included fear of violent reprisals. One eyewitness account from Michigan Rep. Peter Meijer:

[…] Hours later, after the Capitol was cleared of insurrectionists, with windows shattered and the smell of tear gas lingering, the consequences of his dangerous lies became clear. As we moved to accept Arizona’s electors, a fellow freshman lingered near a voting terminal, voting card in hand.

My colleague told me that efforts to overturn the election were wrong, and that voting to certify was a constitutional duty. But my colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in. Profoundly shaken, my colleague voted to overturn.

An angry mob succeeded in threatening at least one member of Congress from performing what that member understood was a constitutional responsibility.

Meijer, a Republican, voted to certify the election, by the way.

You know who’s faced death threats since day one of their tenure in Congress? Let’s start with Ilhan Omar. She would have been first to the gallows erected behind the Capitol, if they hadn’t shot her first. If you follow AOC on Twitter, you see that she’s often obliquely referring to ways that she sneaks around to avoid crowds, and if the mob had found her, she’d have been killed or worse. Of course, the list includes Nancy Pelosi, though she has really good security and can travel on government aircraft, and it goes on and on. Plus, the hate aimed against these women didn’t start last Wednesday.

Another angry mob of Republicans, who happen to be Members of Congress for now, refused to wear masks while they were sheltering with Democrats. Now, Democratic Reps Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ) and Pramila Jaypal (D-WA) have tested positive for COVID. Coleman is a 75 year-old cancer survivor. Just serving in Congress with these traitors is a fucking health risk.

The obvious difference between Omar, AOC, Pelosi, Coleman and Jaypal and the members who voted against certification is that the Democrats didn’t betray their country out of cowardice. It’s no excuse (though Meijer clearly isn’t trying to excuse, just explain), and they deserve very little sympathy.

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    the CH officer who drew the mob away from an unguarded Senate door has asked media to stop using his name, because he’s concerned about his and his family’s safety.

  2. 2.

    TaMara (HFG)

    Sheldon Adelson has died. I was unaware he was sick.

    As to the post – Republicans prove over and over they are cowards and morally bankrupt. Reap. Sow.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    Agreed.  If these reps are being threatened to betray their country, they should resign.  It’s not like the threats are going to stop for every future decision they’ll need to make.

  5. 5.

    BruceFromOhio

    I’ll credit Reps Ocasio-Cortez and Omar with contending with death threats from people other than their constituents.

    The “lingering fellow freshman” is probably getting death threats from his or her own constituents.

    That’s how vertically fornicated the dumpster fire cult can act, and is acting.

    …and they deserve very little sympathy.

    As in, none. Can’t handle the heat, stay the fuck outta the kitchen and let the adults do the cooking.

    @Wag:  Yes, thank you.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Even our heroes have to hide out of fear.

  6. 6.

    Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    Any congressperson who voted against accepting the electoral college results or impeaching drumpf last year out of fear for themselves or their family is also susceptible to foreign pressure. by definition they have failed their oath. If they voted against out of ambition, they were in open support of sedition.

  10. 10.

    Lyrebird

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Wow.

    re: Rep. Meijer’s tale, on the one hand I think that AZ rep shoulda spoken out before, like maybe when conspiracy loving AZ people nearly assaulted a local photographer for wanting to cover the little league (or whatever) game.

    On the other hand, I do not know what it’s like to be a few handshakes away from the people who plotted the attack on Whitmer.

     

    Prayers for safety, especially for that brave CHP officer.

  12. 12.

    Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix

    @Wag: I give anyone who has a family a little bit of sympathy to accompany their resignation.  That’s it.

  13. 13.

    Punchy

    That bitch (yeah, I said it) from GA with 3 names is going to be the source of all sorts of fuckrattery, screaming fits, wanton rule and norm-busting, etc.  She’s basically an Agent of Chaos first, Trump-spewing acolyte second, and then a GOP Rep somewhere between functions #6 and #7.  I will predict she will either directly threaten a colleague with their life or get arrested for gun possession before her term is out.

  14. 14.

    oldster

    I want the names of those traitors-in-office who refused to wear masks when they were in the secure bunker.

    I also want the names of any Republicans in that bunker who were positive or  test positive for the next few weeks.

    They are liable for assault and reckless endangerment.

  15. 15.

    Amir Khalid

    From the story at the link, Peter Meijer:

    I regret not bringing my gun to D.C.

    I’m not convinced that Rep. Meijer’s gun would have helped the situation any. Would he even have been allowed to bring a firearm into the chamber of the House?

  18. 18.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Yep, the Conservatives sure are showing us Libertards who are the People of Character and who are the cucks.  They can tell Omar and the Madonna of Seattle or just any civil rights advocate what kind of manly men they are.

    No wonder McCain had the attitude he had towards other Republicans, heck,that puts The Mitbots death stare 2000 the night 6th at Senator Douchbage Treason into a new context. If Mitt Romney thinks you are fed, you are a feb.

    I will take this as a sign the number of these Qanon freaks willing take on armed soldiers as limite.a

  19. 19.

    narya

    If I were a member of congress who got Covid from those dipshits, I would carry that grudge forfuckingever. I would shun everyone in the room who refused to wear a mask, and I would mention it at EVERY opportunity.

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @TaMara (HFG): As others said, Lee and his whole army never got the Confederate flag into Washington, but Trump managed it.  So having German troops in Washington isn’t that big a step. Of course we’ve had Nazis there for some time.

    (Britain has already occupied and burned Washington, and Canada was part of Britain at the time.  Offhand I don’t recall any historical incident with French troops.)

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    Linky fix.

    1) Raise your hand if you’re in the least surprised.

    The Trump administration is trying to push through a last-minute rule that could force banks to offer loans to gun-makers and oil exploration companies or to finance high-cost payday lenders.

    The move follows announcements by the biggest U.S. banks that there are some industries and activities they don’t want to finance, such as drilling for oil in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge or making loans to gun manufacturers who make assault-style weapons. Some major banks have sworn off making those loans. Source

    2) I believe the correction reaction is “Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha.”

    Only one person showed up to the pro-Trump protest outside Twitter’s San Francisco HQ Source

  23. 23.

    gvg

    I think their needs to be more of an emphasis generally with following up and charging those who make those kinds of threats. I think it’s been allowed to get out of control.  The reports from Meijer should be treated as a report of threats and those who made the threats should be arrested and serve jail sentences. For years law enforcement has acted helpless done nothing.  Not just from protecting politicians, but ordinary people. They don’t find these people and arrest them and now the public acts like it is normal and acceptable even while they say they are less tolerant of domestic abuse (related to this issue).  It is part of why online discussions turn into sewers.  Anyway, this story also means the minority is manipulating our laws unfairly.

    This is also part of Jim Crow era as described by my father.  Whites were afraid to be too nice to black people or just fair because they could be murdered or lose business.  It was completely toxic. So is allowing it to be normal for politicians to be threatened with anything other than losing an election.

  24. 24.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    Could someone check me on this? Is “Ashli Babbitt” the way we spell “Horst Wessell” these days?

  26. 26.

    henrythefifth

    If you haven’t seen the video of Trump MAGATs confronting Rep. Lou Correa in the airport, I suggest you do. Lou stood up to them, but they were up in his face. Including some douche using a Bain voice. This is the new America. They are all sociopaths (with a few psychopaths like Hawley/Cruz in there).

  28. 28.

    germy

    @oldster:

    In her statement Monday night, Jayapal’s office took care to highlight that “the duration in the room was multiple hours, and several Republicans not only cruelly refused to wear a mask but mocked colleagues and staff who offered them one,” linking to video showing Delaware Rep. Lisa Blunt Rochester pleading with a group of Republicans to put on the masks she was offering them. They included newly elected Georgia Rep. (and Qanon enthusiast) Marjorie Taylor Greene, Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry, Texas Rep. Michael Cloud, and Oklahoma Rep. Markwayne Mullin, who can be heard rebuffing Rochester’s proffered mask by telling her, “I’m not trying to get political here.” (Greene’s office would later tell CNN, “Congresswoman Greene is a healthy adult… She does not believe healthy Americans should be forced to muzzle themselves with a mask. America needs to reopen and get back to normal.”)

    (via LGM)

  30. 30.

    TaMara (HFG)

    @oldster: Here’s the thing – many of them are on camera, during the lockdown, not only refusing masks, but laughing at the Rep who trying to pass them out.

    That video should be on loop, with shadow circles around each person refusing with their name emblazoned over it.

  31. 31.

    kindness

    Sympathy….yea, uh no.  I think Republicans and the Republican Party deserve the full effect of the 14th Amendment right now with each of those who cast ballots to not recognize certified Electoral votes for Joe Biden with a quick exit from Congressional office.  Republicans would be in an uproar.  I can just imagine what they would say on Fox News, the WSJ or the GD NYT.  It would be the same as any day ending in a ‘day’.  Screw those bastards.  They walked to the political gallows of their own free will.

  34. 34.

    taumaturgo

    I proposed that Republicans that betrayed their oath of office and the country, the Republican title after their name should read RT. R for Republican, T for traitor.

  35. 35.

    dmsilev

    @NotMax: “The rule could also be scrapped by Congress through an oversight tool called the Congressional Review Act, especially since Democrats will now control both the House and the Senate.”

    The CRA was Newt Gingrich’s brainchild, and the GOP has used it frequently since then to eliminate regs that they don’t like. Karma.

  36. 36.

    Gin & Tonic

    @NotMax:

    a last-minute rule that could force banks to offer loans

    I thought they believed in free enterprise? What am I missing?

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I thought they believed in free enterprise? What am I missing? 

    They don’t believe in anything other than their own immediate interests. Much like wild animals.

  39. 39.

    dmsilev

    @germy: If I were in the House leadership (hah!), I’d bring formal ethics charges against every single one of those mask refuseniks. Also, the Reps who tested positive should consider filing personal injury lawsuits.

  42. 42.

    Barbara

    Regarding Mejier’s claim, it is either untrue, post hoc justification for a position that suddenly became indefensible on any rational political basis, or an admission that they are unfit to serve in Congress. It’s not a nice subject but all highly visible members of Congress are subject to death threats.  My forensic psychiatry class was taught be a psychiatrist at the federal intake assessment center at the prison in Butner, NC, and she arranged for a Secret Service agent to discuss the role of the “presidential threats” division, in which he served.  He said that — remember, this was pre-internet — the SS investigated more than 80,000 threats made against the president annually.  If a member receives a threat, the correct course is to refer it to the SS for investigation and, likely, arrest or detention if it is determined to be credible.  The correct response is not to capitulate and vote for something you don’t believe in and then beg forgiveness afterwards.  I mean, seriously: Fuck. You.

  44. 44.

    The Thin Black Duke

    The most patriotic act every American can do from now on is never vote for a Republican ever again.

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    I’d bet we all think that the past week has been a horrible week in US history. That one of the worst times was, here. And there is some real, obvious basis for that, an attack upon our government, upon our elected officials, and an obvious attack from partially inside that government, that our sworn leader fermented because he’s a sore sick looser who thinks higher of himself, by so much that he’s never come within a million miles of earning and a political party that values money and hate above all else. This president didn’t make this hate up out of clear, thin air, it’s been fermenting for what, over 200 yrs, with our history of slavery and pious exceptionalism. We have some pretty high ideals in this country, and we often do not live up to them in any way. The last 4 yrs has been a trial of our values, our lives, our direction as a nation. We haven’t failed but we have come extremely close and we are talking about how we came so close to losing. We have to never forget that this attempt at a different kind of country, a different kind of government, isn’t perfect, it’s still a reflection of humanity and it requires constant attention, effort, pride and the lessoning of it’s worst enemy, hate. Hate of difference. Hate of gender. Hate of people who don’t look like us. Hate of people who don’t have money, especially as a lot of that comes from the hate that so many carry because the hate is from the inequality that many ferment out of thin air, that of the very inequality that we are supposed to strive against. We are all products of our history, of our hate and of our lack of education that actually supports our ability to govern as equals. This is built into our system and has been since day one. It’s in our electoral system, our governing system, our educational system, our monetary system. We recognize it in many ways, but how many actually see that while our system is OK it has massive faults as well, and those faults generally hold the status quo as best, when it is a great concept, with some flaws. We could fix those if we’d recognize that most of the faults favor groups of people and that we can’t allow that and have the government that we do, rather than the one we say we do. We’ve grown up in so many ways, but our government structure says we haven’t, that we can not be trusted to actually govern, so we have for example the electoral college, to often keep us from actually having the government that might just work towards better equality. We have arrived at a place that says we don’t want to keep the old restrictions on actual government for the people, by the people.

    The current republican party doesn’t want that, which is the basis of conservatism, not to allow change, not to allow growth, not to allow equality, not to allow us to govern in the way we say we are doing because that doesn’t favor control of the wealth.

    We have to recognize the war we are fighting, the war of force over reason, over equality.

  46. 46.

    germy

    Recently I tried to hire someone to do a project in our home. When she learned my name she said she wouldn’t work for a traitor. The problem? Her spouse is a retired officer who’s working in the office of the SECDEF in a position that almost certainly requires security clearance. https://t.co/w3BexrlaeE

    — Rachel Vindman (@natsechobbyist) January 12, 2021

    I am thankful she made the connection before I hired her because I wouldn’t want her in my home, but I am concerned that her husband—whose @LinkedIn profile is a Trump/Flynn fan page—works at the Pentagon.

    — Rachel Vindman (@natsechobbyist) January 12, 2021

  48. 48.

    cain

    @TaMara (HFG): Sheldon Adelson has died. I was unaware he was sick.

    Well, looks like GOP has lost another source of funding. He must have died very disappointed by what has happened.

  50. 50.

    sanjeevs

    Comey, who was abruptly fired by the president, added that he believed Trump should be impeached but not prosecuted at the federal level.

    “I still think it would be better for this country if we move past a fallen and corrupt president and turned off the television lights on him, which in some ways would be the greatest punishment he could imagine,” Comey said.

    Once again, Fuck Comey.

  52. 52.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @cain: the Widder Adelson is every bit the nut her husband was, I’m sure she’ll keep the cash flowing. As to his health, I’m not a doctor like Bill Frist, but when I’ve seen Adelson on my TeeVee, he looked like a sick man

  54. 54.

    Aleta

    Dec. 15, Lawrence Tribe (interview on Fox)   Re: Michigan and Stephen Miller’s plan to “appoint backup pro-Trump electors in case they are able to prove widespread election fraud before the Electoral College votes on January 6. ”

    LAURENCE TRIBE: many of them are armed and dangerous. What these people are doing, Stephen Miller prime among them, is stirring up violence. They’re the kind of violence that required special protection for the electors in the state of Michigan. They are inciting violence. They are engaged in essentially sabotage.

  57. 57.

    Barbara

    @Gin & Tonic: Maybe, maybe not.  Wealthy people often have very complicated estates.  I am sure she has lots of money, but the question is whether she has the same unfettered access to all of it that he did.  I guess we’ll see.

  60. 60.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @raven: I’m a political junkie and I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Lou Correa. I wonder how these goons ID’d him.

    as to airport security, there is some:

    Meanwhile, one passenger, “one of the most abusive” of “these idiots had to be restrained. He was charging one of the flight attendants,” Quigley said.
    “I think one of the flight attendants would have been severely injured if the moron was not restrained by his other people.”
    United spokesman Robert Einhorn confirmed on Sunday that five of the 57 passengers were removed from the flight for failing to follow crew instructions and the airline’s mask rules.
    Quigley said a “heavy duty” SWAT team and police were dispatched to the gate.
    Before deplaning, “It could have gotten as ugly as anything Wednesday. I was afraid for the life of the flight attendant. He called her a Communist and then the c-word.”

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    @Amir Khalid: I saw a clip of the two lectern thief attorneys on Chris Cuomo’s show, and they seemed pretty slick, so the analysis you linked gives me hope that maybe the sumbitch will do some time. Josh Marshall pointed out that the seditionists scooped up so far seem to be under-charged, i.e., charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing, etc., rather than the more serious charges their actions seem to merit. I’m hoping this is just the function of a rush to charge as many seditionists as possible and that more serious charges will be forthcoming.

  64. 64.

    cain

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    @cain: the Widder Adelson is every bit the nut her husband was, I’m sure she’ll keep the cash flowing. As to his health, I’m not a doctor like Bill Frist, but when I’ve seen Adelson on my TeeVee, he looked like a sick man

    I don’t think at any time I’ve seen that guy look healthy.

    Well, we’ll see how much Adelson money flows. But I suspect they will be more careful since the Feds are watching. If I were the Mercers I would be super careful as well.

  65. 65.

    Ken

    @sanjeevs: No, no, Comey’s got a point.  Once Trump is in a prison cell, we should turn out the lights and turn off the TVs – well, unless he’s under suicide watch, then I guess there has to be some sort of surveillance.

  68. 68.

    Barbara

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It might be the time to remind people that the charging document for the doofus from Alabama, Lenny Coffman, whose truck was parked near the Capitol, included the little nugget that in addition to numerous weapons, ammunition and bomb making ingredients, “also in the vehicle” were edible THC products and injectable testosterone.  In other words, there is a significant chance that any given raging MAGA is on steroids.

  70. 70.

    evodevo

    @Roger Moore: Exactly…I’m STILL having this argument with our right winger friends.  HOWEVER..I nagged one of them into reading Barry Ritholz’s Bailout Nation..I said I wouldn’t speak to him again until he did.  Haven’t heard a word out of him since he read it about the Great Crash.  He’s still a wingnut, but the economics shut him up.

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    The GOP is in full-on, “Stop angering Daddy or he’ll kill us all” mode…so Fuck. Them. Forever.

    You know what to do, Dems.  Drop impeachment on the orange psychopath now, get in front of a microphone and call for Pence to use the 25th Amendment, take action against the Republican members of Congress who are encouraging the insurrection, and then – sorry Joe – Biden needs to speak about this daily.  “I will NOT have domestic terrorists threatening our lawmakers, our state capitols, or the rule of law in general.  Punishment will be swift and – as you’ve seen – if you commit violence, you will be found and arrested.  If you encourage insurrection, you WILL lose your seat in Congress, your law license, your book deal, and the right to show your face in civilized society ever again.”

  77. 77.

    Roger Moore

    @Betty Cracker: 

    I’m hoping this is just the function of a rush to charge as many seditionists as possible and that more serious charges will be forthcoming.

    This is also what I would hope and expect. They’re going to charge as many of them as possible with the stuff they can easily prove just to get them in the system and go for the more serious crimes as they develop stronger evidence. I’m also hoping they’re going to use the threat of prosecution to get some of them to turn on the organizers and funders.

  78. 78.

    Amir Khalid

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m watching that very clip right now. They’re slick all right, but Cuomo keeps pointing out that their defence of the lectern thief is bullshit.

  79. 79.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Betty Cracker:

    i.e., charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing, etc., rather than the more serious charges their actions seem to merit. I’m hoping this is just the function of a rush to charge as many seditionists as possible and that more serious charges will be forthcoming.

    I’m guessing they’re doing a lot of triage between the dangerous and the doofi, and doofi like this guy are probably good sources for tracking the organizers

  84. 84.

    Haroldo

    @Barbara:

    ……. injectable testosterone.

    In a sense that’s scarier than the other weapons. Does anyone, anyone, have a feeling for how widespread injectable steroid use amongst these seditionists is?

  88. 88.

    LurkerNoLonger

    @germy: Holy fucking shit! If you want me to lose my mind, my blood pressure spike and start breaking shit keep posting stuff like that.

  91. 91.

    germy

    I just pushed my grandmother down the basement steps. My parents want to call the cops on me, but I don't know how that would unify this family.

    — Chip Chantry (@ChipChantry) January 10, 2021

  92. 92.

    p.a.

    Per FTNYFT Deutsche Bank to cut all ties to tRump, no more loans.  1) DB is an int’l bad actor, so grain of salt.  2) If true, it’s all Russkis and ChiComms from now on for donnie’s budget.   And of course, the cult.  He’ll have to milk that cow down to skeleton-walking.  3) Hopefully DB dumps Anthony Kennedy’s kid, although I’m not naive enough to expect any real troubles for him and his bank accounts.

  94. 94.

    brendancalling

    They deserve NO sympathy. They brought this on themselves, and upon innocent bystanders, and upon people who warned them over and over.

    i want them all locked up, at the very least. 

  97. 97.

    WaterGirl

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Madonna of Seattle

    Okay, while we’re insulting people by calling them the Madonna of Seattle or the bitch with 3 names from Georgia, can we at least include the actual name of the person – for those of us who have no idea who you are talking about?

  98. 98.

    Punchy

    @Gin & Tonic: They can force the loans, but cant force the interest rate, can they?  If they’re required to loan Smith and Wesson at 62.3% interest, who am I to complain?

  104. 104.

    Ken

    @germy: Trump: “If you read my speech … People thought that what I said was totally appropriate.”

    Yeah, then they stormed the Capitol, tore down the US flag, put up a gallows, broke and stole a lot of stuff, pissed on the walls, and killed a cop.

  105. 105.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    The son of a Brooklyn Supreme Court Judge who participated in last week’s deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building has been arrested, according to a source familiar with the investigation.

    Aaron Mostofsky, 34, was taken into custody by the FBI in Midwood on Tuesday. In one video shared with Gothamist, federal agents can be seen leaving the basement apartment holding a walking stick and animal skins, which Mostofsky infamously donned while joining a wave of pro-Trump rioters who swarmed the halls of Congress on Wednesday.

    what is it with these people and the Viking/caveman cosplay?

  106. 106.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Amir Khalid: I sat on a jury for a murder trial once. The defense opened with “Did my guy kill X? Yes. Did he do this other thing? Yes.”

    We were surprised. As you can imagine, it shortened the trial somewhat.

    He did have something of a strategy. He asked us to focus specifically on the definition of first-degree murder, and argued that the crime didn’t fit it. And that was in fact a big bone of contention in the jury room, that held us up for many hours.

  108. 108.

    Mary G

    I just keep thinking of all the Democratic Representatives who were threatened by Tea Party loons and knew that it likely meant the end of their career in Congress and still voted for the Affordable Care Act because it was the right thing to do.

  109. 109.

    Betty Cracker

    @germy: Just saw the CSPAN clip of Trump’s remarks, and it’s even worse because he starts off by whining about the social media bans and implying they had a domino effect (not the analogy that dummy used, but it’s what he meant). It’s terrible (though completely unsurprising) that he’s such a selfish shithead that he starts off remarks after a deadly attack on our Capitol whining about personal grievances. But at the same time, it makes me happy because he’s stewing about the PGA and fallout from other organizations that are announcing they won’t do business with his toxic ass.

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    @sanjeevs:

    I had to google because I didn’t now if he was R or Dem.  First thing I found:

    Today, Congressman Brad Schneider (IL-10) introduced the COVID PREPARE Act, his first bill introduction of the 117th Congress…

    Anyone who didn’t wear a mask in those rooms needs to be held accountable.

  115. 115.

    satby

    Shit, I know we’re all (mostly) old, but we remember there’s Google, right? I Google stuff every day in different threads, though my attempt at “The Old Guard” turned out to be a crappy movie and not about the history of the Arlington guards ?.

  116. 116.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WaterGirl:

    The Bitch with Three Names from Georgia (I’m using that as her title from now on, hence the pretentious capitalisation) is newly-oathsworn Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. QAnon all the way, and has noisily refused to mask up on the House floor (and probably her local Publix as well).

  117. 117.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Barbara: In other words, there is a significant chance that any given raging MAGA is on steroids.

    So  one big mass midlife crises on these buffoons parts because buying a Harley didn’t make the 20 years old again.   Alex Jones is big on pushing steroids and such.

  119. 119.

    Jeffro

    @Betty Cracker: white grievance is all they do, it’s all that they’re about, it’s their only ‘policy’, it’s the thing that never leaves their minds.  They care about literally nothing else.

    (I know you know that, but still… ;)

  123. 123.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SiubhanDuinne: Bain is the villain in one of the Batman movies that I’ve actually never seen, and his voice is distorted and it seems like that’s what the one trumper going toe to toe with the congressman seems to be imitating

    @Gin & Tonic: I had that same thought about the Adelsons, what they thought of their fellow trump traveller with the “Camp Auschwitz” sweatshirt

  127. 127.

    Subsole

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The neonazis are big on neopaganism, neo-odinism, that kind of thing.

    They basically reject Christianity as a feminizing Jewish influence, and embrace a heavily bastardized form of old Norse religion as an ‘authentic European’, hypermasculine replacement.

     

    TL;DR: Harkonnenensque delusion. Brain worms within brainworms within brainworms…

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    different-church-lady

    @germy: It’s just amazing that it takes five deaths in the Capitol Building before institutions will draw a line.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Subsole: They basically reject Christianity as a feminizing Jewish influence

    damn me if even at this advanced age and stage-4 level internet junkie-dom I don’t learn something that both kind of saddens me and creeps me out

    The neonazis are big on neopaganism, neo-odinism, that kind of thing.

    I’m guessing quite a bit of neo-onanism too

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    sab

    @Subsole:  That’s kind of weird. Medieval Nordic women had a lot of power, minding the homefront while the guys were out marauding. And the women in the various Icelandic sagas were quite murderous.

  133. 133.

    sab

    @satby: One of the many things I hate about Covid lockdown is never seeing my step-kids, who tried very hard to keep me at least aware of popular culture.

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    Subsole

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Yeah. It really is just a shit-onion of incredible proportion. Layers of bad arguments erected on a scaffold of faulty logic. Like, I used to play D&D. These guys think that shit is how life actually works. That ‘races’ have inherent personality traits, that women actually are -4 Str because vagina… it just goes on and on. They have a supremely warped view of humanity, and it warps their understanding of human constructions like religion and government.

    Also LOL, yeah, a lot of it actually is mental onanism. So far up their own butts they have periscopes coming out their ears.

  137. 137.

    Geminid

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I am also a political junkie, and the only reason I’ve heard of Lou Correa (D-CA) is that he belongs to a group of House Democrats I’ll call azure canines. But only a few Representatives make much national news, even if competent and hardworking.

  140. 140.

    Kathleen

    @Barbara:  I’m old enough to remember ACA Town Halls in 2009 where jeers, boos and threats by Rethugs were routine yet the Dems kept holding Town Halls in the face of it. Not one of them whined. And of course the media expressed no outrage at all because white people’s feelings were hurt because Black Guy and reasons. Which is why I want to tell anyone who glibly refers to Dems as “spineless” to GFT.

  143. 143.

    Gravenstone

    @Amir Khalid: Would he even have been allowed to bring a firearm into the chamber of the House?

    No. It’s a written rule. Same thing that will thwart the gun bunny (and probably Q-nut) from carrying in chamber. They would have to leave them in their personal offices.

  144. 144.

    Ken

    @Just Chuck: Bane’s voice on the other hand is … croaky. And kind of ridiculous.

    The ridiculous part is hiring Tom Hardy and then hiding his face and distorting his voice.  And they don’t even have Michael Bay as an excuse.

    (Bay being moderately infamous for hiring major stars to voice “Transformers”, then electronically distorting their voices to unrecognizability.)

  145. 145.

    Subsole

    @sab: Yeah. Hell, medieval women had a hood deal of power, or at least agency; sometimes a lot more than they had in Victorian times.

    They basically are trying to cobble together a “white” history from very disparate cultures and time periods. It’s a real ragpatch kind of thing, where they just say “did it happen in Europe? Then it’s white.” So yeah, discrepancies abound.

    And that’s before they try to hammer historical fact to fit their narrative.

    Like, they genuinely think you can breed white folks out of existence. They believe they will see a world where blonde haired blue eyed people don’t exist. (Never mind genetics don’t work that way).

    Since that’s their prime lens, they need women to be submissive little baby factories. So you get this weird dichotomy where they infantilize women, while fetishizing Valkyries.

    Take the worst parts of 19th century jingoism, arrogance and cruelty, marry them to the most benighted bronze age sub-ignorance, and et voila.

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    germy

    @Ken:  The ridiculous part is hiring Tom Hardy and then hiding his face and distorting his voice.

    Isn’t Bane’s face hidden in the comic books?

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    Ken

    @germy: Yeah, but I meant more that they could have hired anyone, knowing that they were going to hide everything that makes the actor distinctive.

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    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Amir Khalid:

    I’m pretty convinced the only media statement you or your client should make is, “We have no statement to make at this time.” You can add “& look forward to our day in court” if you’re feeling saucy. …

    — JMH (@harjoel01) January 8, 2021

  155. 155.

    Ken

    @Kathleen: what Sherrod Brown said about what Lindsey Graham did.

    What else did he do?  I mean other than calling Jarvanka and trying to get Trump to call off the attack?  For which, I’d love to see him being cross-examined some time: “And, Senator Graham, what reason did you have to think that the President was in control of the insurrectionists?”

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    SFAW

    @Bluegirlfromwyo:

    Not if the QAnon Pistol Packing Mama from CO beats her to it.

    I hope the FBI arrests Boebert for conspiracy/sedition. Her live-tweeting of Speaker Pelosi’s location, especially being in a group specifically told NOT to do that, should get prosecuted with extreme prejudice. They should start by asking “Which insurrectionist group were you hoping to get to take away the Speaker? Because YOU KNOW they hate her and want to harm her.”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Kathleen: this?

    The Beat with Ari Melber on MSNBC @TheBeatWithAri 16h
    WATCH: @SenSherrodBrown reports publicly for the first time that during the attack on the Capitol he saw a maskless Sen. Graham scream at a Capitol police officer for not “doing enough” to protect the Senators

  161. 161.

    Kathleen

    @Subsole: My description of 2016 election was Hillary Clinton didn’t ask America how its day went so it threw the dinner plate at her.

  163. 163.

    MisterForkbeard

    @SFAW:

    Her live-tweeting of Speaker Pelosi’s location, especially being in a group specifically told NOT to do that,

    Oh, is this true? I’ve been out there saying that what she tweeted was stupid but not actionable, given that it was similar to what was being told publicly (NP is in a secure, undisclosed location) and so on – though I haven’t checked the timing on that. Maybe she was early.

    But if she was specifically told not to do this and did it anyway, it deserves censure at the least.

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    Wapiti

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Nazis (the old German Nazis) appropriated a lot of Nordic and Viking symbolism for their Aryan myth. I think it might be partly this. The white supremacists also see the Scandinavian nations as more racially pure.

  167. 167.

    Kathleen

    @Ken: There are videos of them actually running and hiding on rooftops when Rethugs were featured in the ongoing comedy series “Just Die Already “. And that was pre CoVid when my liberal friends thought I was being hyperbolic when I said Republicans want us all to die.  Good times.

  169. 169.

    Kathleen

    @Ken: While Senators were hunkered down Graham berated a Capitol Police Officer for failing to protect them. That’s disgusting. I hope it wasn’t the Officer who diverted the terrorists away from the open Senate office door.

  171. 171.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins · 31m
    Sen. Lindsey Graham, who last week said he and President Trump had a “hell of a journey” but it was time to “count me out” because “enough was enough,” is flying to Texas on Air Force One today, per the pool.

  173. 173.

    cain

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Me too.. I thought the whole ‘she tweeted the location’ was hyperbole since all she said was “she’s not here’. But yeah, it means that she maybe on-route to somewhere else.

    There is no doubt in my mind that she probably wished harm to befall the speaker.

  175. 175.

    SFAW

    @MisterForkbeard:

    I don’t recall if I heard that on NPR, or if I read it online. My admittedly vague (yes, I know it was only a few days ago, but I’m an old fart, OK?) recollection is that another Congressman/woman was the source of the “we were told not to do that” info.

  177. 177.

    trnc

    @TaMara (HFG): Breaking News: The leaders of Britain, France, Germany, and Canada have offered to send troops to protect the US capitol.

    I assume it’s snark, since no link to a news site was included. If it’s true, its high level trolling from our allies.

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    bluefish

    Thanks for this. Right on. Some of these folk need to reconsider their career choices. The life is not for everyone. Sad tale but find another job, guy.

  179. 179.

    trnc

    @germy: Isn’t there a mask requirement? If one of them was positive, is there any penalty that the adults in the House can administer or do we have to depend on a significant number of assholes for that?

  180. 180.

    Haroldo

    The Capitol Police Board is solely  responsible for the Capitol Police.  The current board is

    J. Brett Blanton – Architect of the Capitol  (Installed by Trump in Dec, 2019.  Confirmed by Senate, Dec 2019)

    Jennifer Hemingway – Senate Sergeant At Arms  (Installed Jan 7, 2021 – I think).  Michael Stenger was the SSaA when the attack occurred.  (Installed by Trump April, 2018)

    Timothy Blodgett – House of Representatives Sergeant At Arms (Installed Jan, 2021 Paul Irving was the HRSA when the attack occurred (Installed by Obama, Jan, 2012)

    Stenger and Blodgett are not talking publically.  Blanton, curiously, is not much in the news.  I hope the investigators of this horror are looking very closely at these folks, as they are the former head of the Capitol Police, Steven Sund

     

    This WaPo article is enlightening.

  181. 181.

    trnc

    @cain:

    Sheldon Adelson has died. I was unaware he was sick.

    Well, looks like GOP has lost another source of funding. He must have died very disappointed by what has happened.

    I can’t tell if this is snark. I’m sure his widow will be happy to keep doling out $ to the traitors.

  182. 182.

    Geminid

    @SFAW: I don’t know if any official action will be taken against Lauren Boboert, but the CO 3 Congresswoman sure is getting “ratio’d” on her Twitter feed. For every favorable response, there are ten or so along the lines of “RESIGN”…”TRAITOR”, etc. Mugshots from her 2017 failure-to-appear arrest are especially popular.

  184. 184.

    trnc

    @Ken: Comey’s got a point. Once Trump is in a prison cell, we should turn out the lights and turn off the TVs

    How does DT wind up in a prison cell if he isn’t prosecuted?

  185. 185.

    Aleta

    @germy:

    And she immediately posted a ready made response (to Harvard’s calling out her lies) that continues the RW attack on universities.   (A dead serious part of their attack on democratic government.)

    *“it is a rite of passage and badge of honor to join the long line of leaders who have been boycotted, protested, and canceled by colleges and universities across America.”     *“cower and cave to the woke Left”     *“Ivory Tower’s march toward a monoculture of like-minded, intolerant liberal views demonstrates the sneering disdain for everyday Americans and will instill a culture of fear for students”

  187. 187.

    Steve in the ATL

    @germy: I hate Harvard as much as the next guy, but I watched the game last night with a Harvard Law School alum and he provided a $400 bottle of wine, so these two incidents are softening my disdain for the Crimson.

  190. 190.

    AJ - Mustard Search & Rescue Team

    Thanks for this and all your other posts mistermix.

    Btw the Congresswoman’s last name is spelled Jayapal with two A’s.

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    Subsole

    @Wapiti: That certainly plays a part, from what I’ve seen. Also Celtic knotwork tattoos are really big with them. Again, part of that idealized pagan past.

    Never mind the Gauls were not the Celts who were not the Picts or the Wealisc…

  199. 199.

    Obdurodon

    I for one welcome our NATO allies’ offer of aid. Of course it might cause some on the right to have aneurysms (I was going to say “drive them crazy” but they already are) and that makes it even better.

  205. 205.

    AnnaC

    @WaterGirl: Yes, he’s my Congressman and a definite good guy Dem.  When he posted on FB that he tested positive, I was very sorry to hear that.

  206. 206.

    Don P.

    @Betty Cracker:

    “Josh Marshall pointed out that the seditionists scooped up so far seem to be under-charged, i.e., charged with disorderly conduct and trespassing, etc., rather than the more serious charges their actions seem to merit. I’m hoping this is just the function of a rush to charge as many seditionists as possible and that more serious charges will be forthcoming.”

    The presser at about 3 today with FBI confirms that; they explicitly said these are only the first charges against these people.  Also, the words “The FBI has a long memory” were used, which I did not expect to ever enjoy hearing.

  207. 207.

    Don P.

    @trnc:

    I’m waiting for an offer of “assistance” from Putin, and Trump’s acceptance.  “I HAVE UNLIMITED POWER OVER MILITARY ALLIANCES!”

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