Twitter allowed him to put it on The White House account.
1. The right words (mostly)
2. Two months too late
3. Usual insipid delivery
4. Didn’t say Biden won in a free and fair election.
5. Mentioned cancel culture (wants his Twitter back)
6. A pinch of bothsides thrown in.
Must have taken a lot of repeating that he’s gonna be a private citizen a week from now and subject to arrest to get him to do that speech.
Open Thread, ’cause that’s all we’ve got these days.
trollhattan
Nope, can’t listen to that voice any longer.
luc
How many hours did we have without one of his tweets?
Kent
6 more days and we are free from him forever
Anya
Thanks, Cheryl for for summarizing. I do not want to listen to his voice. I wish he would go away forever and we never hear from him or see him ever again.
Immanentize
I try never to watch him, but, he is still the President?
mrmoshpotato
@trollhattan: LOL! I was about to comment “I won’t listen to that, and you can’t make me!”
Elizabelle
Nope. CNN broadcast that Trump message. Clicked off immediately.
Michael Beschloss had just said he thought Trump could be convicted and …. internet dropped.
Anybody else hear what else he said? Last guest on Nicole Wallace at 6 (in instead of Ari Melber).
debbie
7. Not one sincere syllable.
Baud
@Elizabelle:
Drawn and quartered?
Old Man Shadow
Isn’t it about time he left in the middle of the night with a bunch of suitcases stuffed with money to a non-extradition country?
mrmoshpotato
@debbie: 8. Usual fucked up delivery like he’s sounding out a new language. (Probably)
Baud
Nora Lenderbee
Who cares?
Jim Appleton
What a raft of BS.
Sure, he had to denounce violence and curious who/how got him to go through the motion.
He’s on record way to many times saying how much he likes political violence. And word is he enjoyed what he saw on teevee 1/6.
Fuck him with a rusty oil tanker.
MisterForkbeard
Yeah, not watching this. A lame and insincere attempt to save his own ass is exactly what I expect.
dmsilev
You get the feeling that he’s reading this with a metaphorical gun pointed at his head. It has all the emotional import of a hostage video.
TaMara (HFG)
Not getting out of the boat, but I bet the outtakes are a hoot.
Benw
I was just thinking how nice it was not to see retweets or embeds of his big dumb stupid face.
Baud
This is how Republicans unify.
Arclite
So Beto said, “Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.” Republicans used that quote to say “Dems are coming for your guns!”
What’s the Republican equivalent of that quote?
Martin
Individual-1 may walk out of the WH after all.
debbie
@TaMara (HFG):
Honest, he did not sound drugged. He really didn’t sound like he was reading from a teleprompter.
citizen dave (aka mad citizen)
@Elizabelle: “Michael Beschloss had just said he thought Trump could be convicted and …. internet dropped.”
He said the same on the Lester Holt newstime show. I don’t think Beschloss has any particular insight, though. I had to endure a few seconds of chuck todd as well. At least he didn’t bothsides the Republican party coming apart, which is all I remember he talked about.
WaterGirl
@Arclite: Slight correction. Republicans were saying Dems are coming for your guns LONG before Beto ever said that.
Just Chuck
Sorry-not-sorry T, but you don’t get to just say “sorry about the insurrection, let’s forgive and forget”. Your corrupt treason party will probably get you off this particular hook again, but there is a trainload of consequences barreling your way nonetheless. Vaya Con Diablo, motherfucker.
Punchy
Last thread too busy, so I ask here: while 10 Rs voted “aye” on Impeachment 2; Sedition Boogaloo, did any Ds (perhaps in very red districts) vote “nay”? Or did the Dems go straight-ticket?
Just Chuck
@Punchy: Straight ticket. There were some non-votes, could be they weren’t there.
lamh36
Jeezus…when finally Chump slithers out of DC…is this dude FINALLY gonna be able to get off his knees in service to Chump…
ugh..
Jay
JPL
Haha Ivanka isn’t going to the Inauguration of President-Elect Biden after all. Maybe she was insulted that she had to sit in the peanut gallery.
HumboldtBlue
I listened for the first minute or so. Fuck him, I give no fucks about what he had to say.
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
Was Beto the first Dem who didn’t do a stop, drop and roll on being asked? Loved when he said that.
VeniceRiley
New phone. Who dis?
Anya
Republicans have weird obsessions. They get obsessed with certain people for no reason. They’re obsessed with Andrew Weissmann, Eric Swalwell, AOC, Valarie Jarred, etc. It’s weird. How do they choose people they creepily obsess with? Racism and antisemitism alone cannot explain it.
Geminid
trump’s affectless delivery makes me think the doctors have upped his tranquilizers. I hope they have.
trollhattan
@Jay:
Imagine if they’d done that a week earlier.
Jeffro
this dumb motherfucker just wants to be able to grift away (with Secret Service protection) for the next four years on his “trumpov 2024” non-run run.
F that. Finish him off, Senate!
Just Some Fuckhead
I rolled my eyes so hard, something broke.
Old School
Well, I think it’s obvious that he has learned his lesson. He won’t be touching that particular stove anymore.
Jeffro
@Anya: it’s a Fox thing (and maybe a Limbaugh thing)…whomever the RWNJ media chooses to focus on for more than a day instantly becomes an Enemy of the State.
I’ve seen it with my dad and Valerie Jarrett, Adam Schiff, etc.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: I am so fucking proud. Assholes.
Anya
@lamh36: He probably advised Trump to issue that statement and he told him he will help himself with the impeachment. Trump will be so angry with Graham when this doesn’t work.
Punchy
@Immanentize: just barely. Check back on Monday.
Cheryl Rofer
sab
@Punchy: No Dems voted not to impeach. No Dems voted present-not-voting.
trollhattan
So today Gov Gav announced the state is accelerating opening COVID vaccine availability to 65+, which had been well back in the line before this. We’ll see if 1. there’s sufficient supply and 2. sufficient facilities administering it.
Did you know West Virginia was ahead of the rest of the country getting the vaccine into all the senior care homes? Yay you, West Virginia!
Anya
@Jeffro: The strangest thing about their obsession with Valerie Jarrett is she’s so mild mannered and so soft spoken. She’s like the nice mom next door who’s house always smelled of cookies and who was always sweet to you when you were a kid. Did she even make any headlines or did anything controversial. I only know her name because righwingers wouldn’t shut up about her.
JPL
@lamh36: Wow! The evidence must be overwhelming. Bring it on.
Jeffro
6. more than a ‘pinch’ of both sides in that stupid video
geg6
Nope, Donny. No givesies backsies. I will never forgive or forget a bit of this. I was in my office most of the day today doing veteran benefits, which the VA requires be documented on hard copy. Left the office around 4 pm, knowing he would probably be impeached by the time I got home. So I stopped at the state wine and spirit store for some wine to toast to it tonight. When I got home and changed clothes, the last votes were being tallied. Made my day.
catclub
Sexism/misogeny is usually there.
Mary G
Sorry not sorry not listening. He’ll be back with “I love all my very fine patriots” as soon as someone’s willing to air.
The Thin Black Duke
Will he call the family of the cop his goons murdered? No? Then fuck off, Donny.
Just Some Fuckhead
Ima repeat what someone smarter said: The CIA showed Trump a video of the Kennedy assassination from an angle no one has ever seen before. Truthfully tho, this is all fucking kabuki engineered by Republicans like Lindsey Graham so they can pretend the crisis is over and everything is okay now, Daddy has sobered up and promised no more whippings. Let’s move on.
Jeffro
@Cheryl Rofer: just because?
Can’t expel these seditionists fast enough, Nancy Smash! Go for broke!
Geminid
@Punchy: All Democrats voted for impeachment. As for Democrats in red districts, I’m not sure if there are any left after the last election. Freshmen Xochitl Torres-Small (NM-2), Joe Cunningham(SC-1), and Kendra Horn (OK) were among those who lost in red districts. Plus the older Swedish guy from Minnesota. He was the only Democrat who voted against both impeachment counts last time. One freshman split on the two counts that time.
Baud
Anya
@catclub: Always but there are others who fit that category, so I am wondering why do they choose certain individuals.
Jeffro
@Just Some Fuckhead: lol
I think someone told him, “if you expect to grift a couple hundred $M/year for the next few years as ‘trumpov 2024’, get your Twitter back, and keep that Secret Service detail, you’d better say the right words and then get out of town. Our fundraising is in THE TOILET with corporate American thanks to you! Now get out there and say the words!”
Jay
dmsilev
@Cheryl Rofer: I’m sure I’m going to regret asking, but what would the charge be? One count of Presidenting While Democrat?
Baud
I know you all are shocked.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Jeffro: Nah, he’d make more money off of his rabid base by never giving an inch. This speech is designed specifically to give Senate Republicans the cover to vote no in the impeachment trial.
Anya
@Just Some Fuckhead: I used to believe the CIA was untouchable until Trump came to town and literally chose Putin over them. In a weird way, that’s reassuring. No one wants a security agency to have control over elected officials.
geg6
@Cheryl Rofer:
That treasonous beyotch better back the fuck off. She could absolutely find herself in legal trouble, too. Wonder who was giving Capitol tours to the terrorists?
Ohio Mom
What must the Magaites who stormed the Capitol/cheered on the insurrectionists think when Trump gives one of these “everyone behave now” speeches?
Probably the same thing we do, that he was forced into it, and that he is lying through his teeth.
Jim Appleton
@lamh36:
Would not surprise if Graham was the fulcrum.
He was on AF1 to TX.
Once the House vote was gaveled, Ol’ Linzee had iDJT’s ear for days and got him to attempt to unwind the clock of what’s about to come.
satby
@Anya: Valerie Jarrett is black. No other reason needed.
Richard
@trollhattan: what a sad piece of shit he and his gang have been. Look around. Radical leftists did not do this. Antifa boogeyman did not do this. Who has been president of the “greatest country in the world “? for 4 long years? Trump, that’s who. And his criminal associates. Looking at you, Republicans.
Brachiator
@Anya:
Well, there is also the sexism.
Gin & Tonic
@Cheryl Rofer: She must be angling for chairmanship of the House Select Committee on Emptying Greasetraps.
Martin
@Cheryl Rofer: This is what I was saying in prior threads. If you believe Trump and his accomplices, this election was stolen and that would be the right thing to do.
We really need to find a way to convince these elected officials to confess that they lied, publicly.
dmsilev
@Baud: I was expecting that to happen during Infrastructure Week!
(sad side note: that joke has been made so many times that I’ve apparently trained the autosuggest system on my iPad to know what I want after just typing ‘Infr’.)
Old School
@dmsilev: My guess would be either “inciting Antifa” or “something something Hunter Biden.”
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: Agree. I will always LOVE Beto for his response to that.
Jeffro
@Anya: the ‘theory’ as relayed to me was that she was the (female, black) puppet master of the administration…there was even a piece where she was called “The Obama Whisperer”
Because, you know, Republicans don’t have advisors or staff or anything (eyeroll)
Mai Naem mobile
@Anya: i think some of them are seen as Dem stars in the making and they try and bring them down like Swalwell and AOC.
craigie
That’s one of the better deep fakes that I’ve seen, but it forgot to mention that Biden won the election.
Yutsano
@Baud: Please please PLEASE allow for the post office to allow banking services! A lot of lower income folks don’t have bank accounts. It would help A LOT more if those deposits could be put into their hands as quickly as possible, and postal bank accounts would be the best method of getting those payments where they need to go.
Jeffro
@Just Some Fuckhead: both things are true…he has to give them cover to aquit him, so that he then can stay “not convicted” and not lose the ability to plausibly ‘run’ for president in 2024.
I think Mitch is going to fuck him and make sure trumpov’s convicted/can’t run anyway. But what do I know.
M31
@WaterGirl: didn’t Wesley Clarke have a good answer to that too? — ‘hey, you want military weapons? Join the military, we’ve got lots of them’
WaterGirl
@Anya: She was a gatekeeper to/for Obama, so I imagine the pissed a lot of people off, no matter how nice she is.
Martin
@Ohio Mom: Some of them are mad. Some of them just make up some excuse for why he said that. Would not be surprised that they are convincing themselves that the national guard in DC are actually securing the place so that thy can murder all of the liberals and install Trump. Remember, you can’t act and speak openly or else the deep state will get you. Everything is in code – nothing is as it seems.
Baud
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus: Condolences.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Jeffro: How does McConnell fuck him outside of producing 17-19 Republicans votes for conviction? Mazie Hirono was just asked by Joy Reid if there were enough Republican votes to convict Trump and she laughed derisively and said “No.”
Cheryl Rofer
@dmsilev: Drinking babies’ adrenochrome
Jay
Geminid
@Geminid: Collin Peterson (MN-7) was the older Swedish guy who voted against both counts in the first impeachment, and lost last November. Jared Golden (ME-2) split his vote that time round. Golden won reelection by 6 points this past election, while trump carried his district by 8. A lot of ticket splitting in Maine this election.
stacib
@debbie: Even when he said, and I paraphrase, can’t we all be friends? LOL
Punchy
@Cheryl Rofer: thats “unity”, right?
WaterGirl
@satby: That’s a better answer than mine.
jl
@Baud: I wonder if McConnell is most worried about his own little funding stream that he can use for close allies and grift.
News is that McConnell is going to try to put off a trial, so he must think the funders of his personal fiefdom want to try to let things slide and hope the problem goes away, just wait a few months before it blows over and restart the same old long con.
I wonder what threats and deals had to be made to get this done. Probably quite a few threats to Trump and his die hard Congressional flunkies. We’ll see. If the GOP Senate die-hards STFU, then maybe there was some hard dealing and threats.
Cheryl Rofer
@geg6: I’ve been wondering what will happen when connections between Congress and the January 6 mob are investigated. There’s no love lost if indeed members were helping people in the mob – several members have said they feel they can’t trust their colleagues. A logical outcome would be to eject them.
There will be political and optics issues associated with that. If any members are found guilty, they will be Republicans. That won’t make a big voting difference in the House, but toss out enough senators, and you’ve got enough votes to ignore the filibuster.
It does seem, though, that those suspected of helping the mob are mostly in the House.
I think we won’t see movement on this for a while, as Congress waits for the law enforcement agencies to investigate.
Jeffro
@Just Some Fuckhead: gee I dunno…does Mazie Hirono know everything? That would be remarkable. =)
Let’s see how it plays out. The longer it takes to come to trial, the more will come out about what was planned, who planned it, etc. McConnell might at this point in time he can stanch the GOP fundraising bleeding just by getting trumpov to Jan 20th without further insanity, but there will come a point when a) the Senate has to vote on the impeachment charges and b) that might well include a vote on whether or not trumpov can ever hold federal office again. If not, “trumpov 2024” ceases to be viable as a grifting operation and then trumpov goes right back to beating on the GOP.
Cheryl Rofer
@Martin: Yes. Even the ten Republicans who voted for impeachment have not said that Joe Biden won a free and fair election.
We need to keep pounding on them.
Martin
@Just Some Fuckhead: I think members of Congress will start to be arrested. Their ability to defend this is going to shrink fast over time.
stacib
@jl: I think he wants the conviction to come under a Schumer led Senate so he can claim “clean hands” to the rest of the crazy party while reaping the benefit of trump** not being able to run in 2024.
planetjanet
@Cheryl Rofer: The Senate trial could start to expose the connections and some Senators could pledge to vote for impeachment to stop the disclosures.
patrick II
Christopher Wray is not due to give up his ten-year appointment until 2027. How long should he stay?
Suzanne
He’s almost gone.
Tick tock, motherfuckers!
Just Some Fuckhead
@Martin: Arrested by who? Wray’s FBI?
Bill Arnold
@Jeffro:
There is a long list of demented and counterfactual (QAnon) claims about Biden and the “Biden Crime Family”; I’m looking forward to her filing.
Yes, she and her beliefs need to be destroyed.
Jay
NotMax
“But- but- all the kewl kids were doing it.”
//
Brachiator
@Baud:
I look forward to reading the details of this plan. I hope that they do something more innovative than past proposals, which often focus on “targeted relief” to families with children and to the unemployed. But we should be doing more to prop up the economy and to provide relief for people hanging onto jobs, and to childless singles and married couples.
But beefing up the child tax credit and getting money to people early as opposed to waiting for them to file tax returns is a great idea.
Jay
jl
@stacib: Good point. Make it Schumer’s problem. Also GOP can yell about it being old news and just revenge because Trump is out of office, and easier votes for acquittal for GOP senators.
Whether that will work depends on how much and what kind of dirt comes out in the meantime. If it is true that the WH was communicating with the rioters and insurrectionists, then less likely McConnell’s scheming will work.
Edit: wait a minute, I thought impeachments triggered a Senate trial immediately, it had to move to the top of the calendar. Can the Democrats object to McConnell delaying for no reason?
Kent
Biden and Merrick Garland should give him a very short leash and fire his ass if he gets out of line in any way.
trollhattan
@Cheryl Rofer:
“I accuse President Biden of not being cool. Not cool, man.”
Baud
Cheryl Rofer
The National Security Archive collects original documents relating to, yes, national security. I think of them as working mainly with historical incidents like the Cuban Missile Crisis. But they’re on the job for last week’s insurrection.
Jinchi
@JPL: Why would Ivanka be invited?
Cheryl Rofer
trollhattan
@Kent:
James Comey is People’s Exhibit #1 why a Democratic president needs to ditch his Republican FBI director.
Bruuuuce
@lamh36: Fuck Lindsey Graham.
No justice, no peace.
Jay
trollhattan
@Cheryl Rofer:
“Lemme see, is that masks no, guns yes, or the other way around? I’m so confused!“
Baud
@Cheryl Rofer:
They need to impose fines for unnecessary doucheness.
Subsole
@Anya: I thiiink it depends on which propaganda mouth they imprint on.
If Beck hates AOC, they hate her.
If Greenwald gets into a pissing match w/Serwer, his fans hate Serwer.
Certain universal threats get marked by upper management for the full court press and get universal hate.
Othereise it’s the cross pollination of personal vendettas. Since the punditry is such an incestuous pool, it happens pretty fast.
But that’s a guess.
Bluegirlfromwyo
Thank you, Cheryl, for watching this hostage video so I don’t have to.
WaterGirl
@Mai Naem mobile: I think the crazy Q Anon lady with 3 names and the crazy gun girl are both competing to be the AOC of their side.
trollhattan
@Jay:
Am genuinely surprised our asshole sheriff wasn’t there. [Or was he?]
Subsole
@Old School: psssh
Only if we leave him nothing with which to touch it
Baud
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
Interestingly, two of the three are bartenders.
Honus
@Arclite: “We’ll protect pre-existing conditions”
That, or “we’ll protect Medicare and social security”
lamh36
BOOM…shorter Nancy Pelosi…”fuq up and find out”
WaterGirl
@M31: I missed that, but it’s a good one!
Cheryl Rofer
@Baud: Several MoCs would receive no salary at all.
It’s kind of cool that Nancy is teaching them how garnishment works.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Weren’t you worried about where Rick Wilson was broadcasting from? Leslie Jones is wondering too.
Subsole
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Question is, how long until the mediacrities at the networks fall back into their both-sides groove?
This is only working b/c the Jake Tappers and Dana Bashes are genuinely apalled and not playing ball. How long does that last?
Winston
I didn’t hear anything like “I’m sorry I incited the terrorist attack on the Capital”
VOR
Collin Peterson. He held the 7th district in MN since 1991. Was Chair of the Agriculture Committee in the House when he lost and had either held that position or been Ranking Member since 2005. His district was the most rural in Minnesota and very Red. Trump lost the entire state of Minnesota in both 2016 and 2020, but won that district with 62% and 63% of the vote respectively.
Peterson was literally a founder of the Blue Dog Coalition. He had a A rating from the NRA, who endorsed him in 2010. He voted against the ACA in 2010 and voted to repeal the ACA in 2016, the only Democrat to do so.
Jeffro
@Cheryl Rofer: I just saw this and I am THRILLED.
Fuck these people if they can’t abide by the rules. They’ll burn through their whole salary in fines in NO time.
Subsole
@Martin: Any ideas?
Just Some Fuckhead
I have questions about the cat in a dress painting in Rick Wilson’s library.
Subsole
@WaterGirl: Yeah. I was so frigging disappointed we didn’t get Cruz last time…and capped it by sending Cornyn back to Austin.
Ugh.
JPL
@Cheryl Rofer: Rep. Meijer said that trump lost the election. He might not have used the words free and fair, but he left no doubt that Biden won.
Mike in NC
@lamh36: Great to see her fixing the scofflaws. All the Republicans whining today wore masks to avoid a fine.
Jeffro
@Bill Arnold: if nothing else, having her around in Congress will be nice to beat the slightly-less-insane members of the GOP with on a frequent basis
“So Rep Smith…your position is the same as that of Rep Low-IQ-Anon from Georgia…what else do you agree with her on?” etc etc
lemonade out of lemons, I guess…
Subsole
@Jeffro: Just curious, why do you think that?
trollhattan
@zhena gogolia:
“Are you at Dracula’s house?!?”
She kills me, just kills.
Martin
Another consideration on Mitch waiting for the trial. If he was leader, Lindsay Graham would be organizing the trial. Effective 1/21, I think it’s going to be Leahy (I think he’s going to be chair, not Feinstein).
That doesn’t change the vote, but it dramatically changes the nature of the trial and what evidence will be presented.
TriassicSands
Is there a Trump supporter left anywhere that Mr. Sedition hasn’t “thrown under the bus?”
On January 6, Benedict Arnold Trump told the Capitol invaders, “I love you. You’re very special.”
A week later, they could never be part of his pacifist’s movement to peace, tranquility, and teddy bears.
Brachiator
@Yutsano:
There is also Internet banking and other options. And even though the California unemployment program is a mess, people whose accounts have not been screwed up get regular payments via debit cards and no-fee ATMs (I think administered by Bank of America). And a lot of what used to be food stamps and other payments are now loaded onto EBT cards monthly.
This seems to get money to people effectively.
Banks screwed themselves by their cynical decision to avoid serving poor people. A lot of alternative programs have popped up that makes a lot of traditional banking irrelevant.
ETA: The pandemic seems to be causing a contraction in the banking industry. In Los Angeles County, a number of Bank of America branches have quietly shut down with no notice to customers. Some branches still have an ATM outside, but the inside offices have been vacated.
jl
A Baudist! administration president would say ‘Hey, guys, I was just shitting you all this time. Shit damn and hell, I’m really sorry, I didn’t know you took it seriously. Go home, put your feet up, take a load off. Have a beer.”
And said with such deep feeling and sincerity, all problems would disappear… into the beer.
Subsole
@Jeffro: Counterpoint: the longer this drags on the more tired of it Americans get. The more eager to forget we become.
Sorry, but I have no faith left in white America’s ability to face the issues eating it alive. If we can complicate our way out of that reckoning, we will.
Anya
@Subsole: this makes a lot of sense. There is a strong inclination to follow the leader within wingnut world and the Rose/Bernie/Greenwald world.
Martin
@JPL: Yeah, I’ve been happy with his statements so far. This statement on 1/9 meant a lot:
That’s exactly the right statement.
Subsole
@patrick II: I thought he served at the pleasure of the president? Can Biden not fire him?
craigie
@Cheryl Rofer:
That’s nice, but why can’t the security folks just refuse to admit them to the building? That’s how it works everywhere else. They are just employees, after all.
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
I mean Steve Schmidt. I cannot fucking tell them apart.
Cheryl Rofer
@JPL: I think he must be the only one of the Republicans to do that. Good for him!
lamh36
Oh look, more LEOs exposed as MAGA-rioters
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1349527074504122368?s=20
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
“Coming to you direct from a undisclosed bell tower.”
;)
Patricia Kayden
Lol
Origuy
@craigie: I think it’s because of Article 1, Section 6:
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
cain
@Martin:
They are going to try to make it all about politics and that Daddy Biden in collusion with Hunter Biden’s laptop are trying to take away our ability to commit sedition – it’s a right in the constitution! Or something like that.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: Rick Wilson has a painting of a cat in some kind of Elizabethan costume in his office (or whatever), and I’m at once horrified by it and really want Leslie Jones to ask him about it.
Did you see Leslie see Tom Nichols for the first time?
TriassicSands
Freudian slip?
Well, we certainly wouldn’t want him to emphasize any of that!
hueyplong
I don’t suppose the pig referenced his health care plan.
Subsole
@Anya: Good point. The two worlds kind of parallel each other.
Making social media the operating framework of our society may have been a touch intemperate.
Looking at it with perfect hindsight, you understand.
Mike G
Denouncing violence is Trump’s lawyer speaking.
This is Trump’s real voice —
All the times Trump has called for violence (a very incomplete list)
TS (the original)
I’m sure someone else has said it – but covering his a…e is what this is about. Suddenly realising he is gone in a week & will be subject to all types of legal happenings.
WaterGirl
@jl: Why would we trust McConnell? He set the rules and he wouldn’t even allow witnesses last time! He cannot be trusted.
NotMax
@Cheryl Rofer
McConnell said it aloud, on mic, to the members assembled just before all Hades broke loose.
Subsole
@NotMax: Yep. I was watching on tv. Right before I heaved a boot at it.
stacib
@jl: No, it’s not triggered immediately. Remember Pelosi holding up the last impeachment until she could negotiate the rules with the Rs over there?
Those supporters are gonna scream either way, and I think Schumer has that trial regardless of whether or not Mitch brings his folks along. I’m sure that to a lot of the countries that have already lost respect for us, this may look like performative art, but for the majority of the sane folks around the world, we HAVE to show that insurrection bullshit will not be tolerated – on any level. We missed the boat when they threatened the Michigan governor and marched on their state house. We absolutely can not let this pass at the federal level.
TriassicSands
@Jeffro:
She’s going to be in a titanic battle with Rep No-IQ-Anon from Colorado for the coveted title of Miss QAnon 2021.
Baud
@TS (the original):
“I absolutely oppose all violence for which I may be vicariously liable.”
Mai Naem mobile
@Anya: Valerie Jarrett’s dad was IIRC either a physician or an academic health related PhD who was Iran during the 50s helping Iran with some healthcare issues which was the reason Jarrett was born in Iran. Anyhoo, so not only was her dad black and smart(OMG) but she was born in ooga booga muslin Iran. And because Barack Hussein Obama was muslin he was Valerie Jarrett’s BFF in Lou Farrakan’s Chicago. Hope I clarified that for you.
CaseyL
Is Taylor Greene still popular with her district? I assume they’re fine with QAnon bullshit since they voted for her in the first place, but are they happy with such an ignorant, unskilled, dumbshit QAnon representing them?
Ditto that gun-toting seditionist skank whose name escapes me. Boebert or something. Is she really representing her district? Has her popularity there improved, or not, since she really started to let her freak flag fly?
AWOL
@lamh36: Those armed, racist, seditionist bastards should be strip-searched like us peons at the airport. Daily. Metal detector or not.
Martin
That’s fair. That faith needs to be earned. I don’t know if things are going to change, but shame on us if this isn’t enough of a wake-up call. I’m optimistic that with Dem control of govt, with what looks to me to be a very good cabinet, very good DOJ, a female person of color as VP, and members of congress that will be tireless in addressing this, that we might have a shot.
I’ve expressed by support for AOC and the squad, but this is a moment made for them.
I think the decision most critical to this outcome is the filibuster. If we don’t repeal it, then we’ve effectively handed control of what bills can be passed to the GOP. They were unanimous on every vote today other than impeachment. They’ve got their party discipline down cold.
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
lololol No I didn’t see that — thanks!
WaterGirl
@patrick II: 45 minutes.
Baud
@jl:
Best beer summit ever.
Dan B
@Anya: The GOP and the RW Think Tanks target one or a few people or issues at a time because they want to reach low information voters or low IQ voters. You can’t do anything but confuse them if there is a different target of outrage every week. I can rattle off dozens of far right wingers at a moment’s notice because I am interested and I’m looking for patterns that help explain the behavior. The GOP is about individual accountability so targeting individuals fits right in.
Jarret is black but think of the other people the far right hates. There are many characteristics they despise. They attack these characteristics because they are a threat to maintaining the status of white authoritarians. Today they’re attacking liberal democracy. They have made it clear they fear it.
Kayla Rudbek
@patrick II: he should be booted out by noon January 21 2021 IMAO
Mai Naem mobile
@TriassicSands: if Low IQ and No IQ didn’t get their shots(COVID not rabies) they might be disabled from serving due to COVID-19. Its even possible its happending now but just the neuro effects.
Redshift
@Cheryl Rofer:
It’s not even original. If anyone is dumb enough to pretend this is the predicted “consequence” by Dems impeaching Trump, remind them that several Republicans announced their intention to impeach Hillary if she won.
WaterGirl
@Cheryl Rofer: Yes!
NotMax
@Baud
Light years better than “Go shopping.”
;)
NotMax
@Redshift
“‘Presidenting while sleepy.’ Sure you want to go with this?”
//
Yutsano
OT: don’t mind me. Just trying to get Betty a new dog.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I knew Nancy wouldn’t screw around with that bullshit.
TriassicSands
Probably. She’s from the Rifle-Silt area on the western slope. Some there may find her too moderate.
Baud
@lamh36:
Make them take off their shoes!!!
russell
fuck off, Donald
Sister Golden Bear
@Cheryl Rofer: Nona don’t fuck around.
CaseyL
I am feeling exhausted tonight, after running on rage-fumes for the past week. Oy.
To never again have to hear, see, or think about Feculent Carbuncle, and his spawn, ever again will be a gift. I doubt his 2024 campaign gets very far, as he now has loser stink. The Sedition Caucus will fight over the ’24 nomination; with any luck, they’ll mutually destruct.
@Cheryl Rofer: That reminds me of the 2016 campaign, when GOPsters in the House and Senate promised to file articles of impeachment against Hillary Clinton before she was even inaugurated. I doubt doing so to Biden will hurt these jackasses in their home districts, alas.
Redshift
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Paintings of cats in historical costumes is a thing, apparently. A friend had one painted of their cat as a gift for her husband.
Kent
I’m suspicious of Wray. But the FBI director is a 10-year term. And Comey was APPOINTED by Obama in 2013. If we are in a new world where the FBI director is just another political appointee that serves one administration then fine. But that’s not what the law says.
You need to have some Pretext to fire the FBI director. What pretext do you suggest? Trump’s pretext was that Comey was too harsh on Hillary Clinton. Which was, of course, BS. But he actually got the AG or Assistant AG to write a legal memo to that effect. What pretext do you suggest that Biden and Garland use to fire Wray? And do you imagine that Merrick Garland will go along with a political pretext to fire Wray? I suspect not.
That’s why I say, keep him on a short leash and fire his ass if he steps out of line is really all they can do.
WaterGirl
@Martin:
Well, if there’s an actual trial, with evidence and everything, that should change the vote.
NOW DO IMPARTIAL JUSTICE AND VOTE TO CONVICT.
Redshift
@NotMax:
“‘Selling out the country to antifa’, which you claim is so obvious it doesn’t require any evidence?”
WaterGirl
@CaseyL: We’ll have to check with Miss Bianca on Boebert (not going to bother trying to find the right spelling).
Kattails
@Martin: That’s a helpful angle, I’d only been thinking about Mitch not being majority leader anymore, but not who’d be leading the trial.
Getting back to your reply to me in the last thread #314–about Hitler getting pardoned. I’ve just finished book 8 of Jaqueline Winspear’s mystery series (A Lesson in Secrets). Our main character has gone from WWI into 1932 and has been asked by the government to look into suspicious, potentially seditious activity. (Now this book in the series was written in 2011.) The powers that be are far more worried about communism than fascism. A good deal of support for the now-rising Hitler is from the wealthy. The threat posed by Hitler is being brushed off even in intelligence circles.
Reading late at night a few days ago, the parallels were stark.
AnotherBruce
@Anya: Jelousy explains it
J R in WV
@Old Man Shadow:
You think he has that kind of cash lying around his suite in the White House? ‘Cause I don’t!!
Kattails
@Redshift: standard abuser behavior as has been noted. “please forgive me I promise not to do it again but you made me and if you tell anyone I’ll have to hit you again.”
Sebastian
@Baud:
Arrest them for sedition. Arrest their aids for sedition. Seize their donors assets for supporting sedition.
They still think this is a game. We are dealing with scum. Stupid ignorant fucked up scum.
We are paralyzed by the fear what would happen if we act when we should be terrified of what will happen if we don’t.
Geminid
@TriassicSands: Boebert won her election by 6 points, after defeating veteran republican incumbent Scott Tipton in a primary. Tipton was a conservative, but Boebert capitalized on her notoriety for defying Covid restrictions by keeping her restaurant open. She’ll definitely face a strong Democratic challenge in 2022. Democrats in the state legislature might be able to help out some when redistricting.
J R in WV
@trollhattan:
I live here, and cannot vouch for this “factoid” at all. I have had a hard time finding any information about vaccination availability here in WV, from either the county Health Dept or the state Health Department.
Bull shit is my call.
Where did you hear this shit???
It may be because so few older folks can afford a long term care facility, mostly they live at home with drunk/addicted kids taking care of them.
Many years ago our neighbor was being “cared for” by a grandkid, when a daughter dropped in to find JC sitting in a swamp of excrement. Which hit the fan instantly.
So does the vaccination data include old folks at home with younger folk taking care of them???
Didn’t think so…
Feathers
@JPL: My suspicion is that Ivanka wanted to go as a stand in for her father. Thus sitting right up front and having the news broadcasts describing all the Democrats coming up to greet her. Yeah, the Inaugural planning committee wasn’t born yesterday.
Kattails
OMG. humor of a sort: National Guard sleeping positions, ranked. Comments include “3 is number 1, using the step to keep your spine aligned will have longer-lasting benefits.” 8-)
Sebastian
@Kent:
Wellllll, the reason would be the storming of the Capitol and almost successful murder of the Vice President, Speaker of the House, Minority Leader of the Senate, and disruption of the certification of a presidential election for the first time in the history of the Republic?
Sounds like a good reason to be resigned (=resign or there will be the mother of all congressional hearings into your leadership failure. Severe punishment up to execution not ruled out). We are long past norms and cuteness.
J R in WV
@Jay:
Actually West Virginia ended the death penalty so long ago I don’t recall how long ago it was… and I’m 70 now.
My dad was writing editorials in the long ago, he thought the only time the death penalty was justified was when someone already serving life without parole committed an attack on a fellow inmate or a corrections officer.
ETA: research shows that
ETA2: while the vast majority of WV is south of the Mason-Dixon Line, the northern panhandle (where Cole lives) is above the M-D line. So mostly southern, but seceded from the Confederacy in 1863…
dww44
@Jeffro: I too never kenned to the evil Valerie Jarrett thing. What I do remember 5 years later is Norah O’Donnell’s unnecessarily confrontational 60 Minutes interview in the waning months of the Obama administration it was over the top.’ Jarrett smiled through the whole thing and never lost her cool. To this day I have little liking or respect for O’Donnell. Beginning to wonder about Alrdlie Stahl too.
Beth in VA
@Just Chuck: I think only 4 didn’t vote, but they were all Republican.
RaflW
@trollhattan: I had heard that about W.VA. And that it was one of the few states that refused to contract with CVS and Walgreens to do the vaccination of seniors.
Coinkydink? Hmmm
@J R in WV: NPR had a short item on the W.VA. senior care vaccination. All I took from it was that maybe just having the nurses who already see all the residents all the time could, y’know, do their jobs?