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Open Thread: Biden Live Announcing His Science Team

by TaMara|  January 16, 20212:09 pm| 78 Comments

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  1. 1.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 2:13 pm

    His science team will be scientists.  This is my prediction.

    Refreshing, after four years of pillow salesmen and snake oil practitioners.

  2. 2.

    PsiFighter37

    January 16, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    I do hope that once all these people are in place and have the full lay of the land, they highlight just how destructive the Trump maladministration was when it came to any semblance of competence in managing these federal agencies. Most of these people are undoubtedly competent at the jobs they are signing up for, but they have to know that a big portion of what they will be doing is rebuilding the institutions and the morale of the executive branch.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    January 16, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    @germy:

    Only scientists? Sounds biased.

  4. 4.

    Brachiator

    January 16, 2021 at 2:21 pm

    It will be nice to have sciency scientists doing science, understanding science, explaining science.

  5. 5.

    Ohio Mom

    January 16, 2021 at 2:21 pm

    germy @1:
    Somewhere in the blogosphere I saw someone remarking that Mr. Pillowman resembled Fred Trump. Maybe that is why he is a favorite?

  6. 6.

    Kent

    January 16, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    They have an enormous task on their hands.  First, to rip out all of the anti-science material that the Trump folks have embedded everywhere into the Federal government from climate to environmental protection to health care.  second, to bring science back into the forefront in Federal decision-making instead of the anti-science fundamentalist and pro corporate profits tilt that has been there for the past four years.  And third, to elevate the role and stature of science in our larger society.  The know-nothing anti-intellectual tilt of the GOP has been extremely damaging in so many areas from climate denial to anti-vax nonsense.

  7. 7.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    It’s a possibility.

    I’ve always disliked him.  HIs commercials and his outlandish claims for his product. (In one commercial, he promised his pillows would cure sleep apnea.)  Inventing a “sleep institute” just so it could endorse his ridiculous pillows.

  8. 8.

    Kent

    January 16, 2021 at 2:25 pm

    @Baud: Only scientists? Sounds biased.

    Not one fundamentalist preacher or coal lobbyist in the bunch.  How unbalanced!

  9. 9.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 2:25 pm

    @Baud:

    Can’t we get at least one astrologer in there, so we can say we “reached out” to conservatives?

  10. 10.

    Scout211

    January 16, 2021 at 2:29 pm

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-sworn-justice-sonia-sotomayor-inauguration/story?id=75296716

    I love this!

    The Vice President-elect will be sworn in by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, another historic female first. Sotomayor is the first Latina Supreme Court Justice.

  11. 11.

    Mary G

    January 16, 2021 at 2:34 pm

    @Scout211: Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Justice Sotomayor wrote a blistering denunciation of Barr’s rush to execute more people this administration than we had in the last 60 years. Love this.

  12. 12.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 2:36 pm

    Access Sally (thanks to Roy Edroso for that name) has some inside info in her thread:

    I got a bit more information about the Lindell meeting. It was a brief meeting, Trump sent him upstairs to the WH counsel's office to be escorted by an admin official sitting next to Lindell in the meeting. That official, according to another official, was Robert O'Brien.— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 16, 2021

  13. 13.

    Brachiator

    January 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    Biden will introduce Eric Lander, his nominee for director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and a presidential science adviser-designate; Alondra Nelson, his pick for OSTP deputy director for science and society; and Frances Arnold and Maria Zuber, his picks for co-chairs of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

    Arnold won the 2018 Nobel Prize in chemistry. Some people say that Trump was up for that Nobel as well.

    //

  14. 14.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    @Brachiator:

    No, Trump got the Noble prize.

    Completely different competition.

  15. 15.

    John Revolta

    January 16, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    @germy: Access Sally! LOLOL

  16. 16.

    cain

    January 16, 2021 at 2:52 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    It won’t matter – as long as they continue to be exposed to right wing propaganda – they’ll follow whatever is being said by the propagandist.

    We have to really figure out how to muzzle Fox News.

  17. 17.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 16, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    @Brachiator:  Lander is a college classmate. Brilliant guy and a good person to boot.

  18. 18.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    @cain:

    They’ve moved beyond fox news.  Jenna Ellis is on twitter gloating about their drop in ratings.

    The hate/anger stuff is all over the web and social media now.  And local and syndicated talk radio.

  19. 19.

    Almost Retired

    January 16, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    Tuesday night – Trump and Melania’s last night in the White House.

    He discreetly helicopters to Walter Reed for a intravenous cocktail of vitamins, steroids and ED medication in the hope that Melania neglects to double bar her well-fortified bedroom door. The door is unlocked. She sighs and accepts his advances, determined, as always, to make the experience seem as much like necrophilia as possible. She feels nothing but his sweat dripping onto her liposuction scars. To make the experience somewhat bearable, she follows the advice of a wise illegal alien (her mother) to “lie back and think of Slovenia.”

    Eventually, Trump makes a guttural grunting noise — akin to the death rattle of elephants poached by his sons – and finishes the vile act with a quick emission of dust. He leaves. Melania gets up and pours herself a strong one. And she thinks about a boy she knew in school….

    There you go. Fan fiction of a sort…….

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    January 16, 2021 at 3:13 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Lander is a college classmate. Brilliant guy and a good person to boot.

    Very cool.

  21. 21.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 16, 2021 at 3:14 pm

    @Baud: A bias towards reality, sounds dangerous.

  22. 22.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 16, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    Lander is not without controversy. I won’t go into it here, but don’t be surprised to see criticism. As a Berkeley alum, I take the other side. But he will be infinitely better than anyone Trump came up with.

    Also too, he is a life scientist, the first to be a presidential advisor. The physicists think the job belongs to them, but their credit comes from a long time ago, and a life scientist is the right choice now.

  23. 23.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 16, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    @germy: Isn’t that like Rand Paul’s ophthalmology certification?

  24. 24.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    @Almost Retired:

    Now do McConnell and Chao.

  25. 25.

    Just One More Canuck

    January 16, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    @Almost Retired: OMG – seek help please!

    The Eagles reference was a good touch

  26. 26.

    zhena gogolia

    January 16, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    OT, my new hero:

    “It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection… and we’ll do it as many times as it takes.” pic.twitter.com/bsLt7zL36X— Ben Taub (@bentaub91) January 16, 2021

  27. 27.

    zhena gogolia

    January 16, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    @germy:

    No, no, please do not do that.

  28. 28.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 16, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    @Almost Retired: I hate you.

  29. 29.

    zhena gogolia

    January 16, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Hmmm. I wonder if you knew my husband.

  30. 30.

    Almost Retired

    January 16, 2021 at 3:22 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: …with time, the mental images will fade…

  31. 31.

    evodevo

    January 16, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    @Almost Retired:  I might alter that to “thinks about Justin Trudeau” lol

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 16, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    @germy: It was a moment of intimacy she dreaded, although she knew it would be brief. It was the deal her parents had wanted, and she had wanted. She had married one of the most powerful men in the country, and the family business had prospered as she had hoped, as she had known, it would. Still, the physical contact filled her with a vague feeling of distaste.

    They approached in the hallway outside her bedroom. Mitch’s face was, as always, blank, no sign of what he thought about the approaching moment when they would come together as husband and wife.

    Mitch extended his hand, she took in hers, both hands cool and dry.

    “Sleep well, Elaine,” said Mitch in a quiet, calm voice.

    “Thank you, Mitch. Good night to you.”

    They shook hands and separated. Mitch turned and walked down the hall to his own room. Elaine entered her own room, closing the door behind her with a sigh of relief. She decided to finish The Crown before sleeping.

  33. 33.

    Haroldo

    January 16, 2021 at 3:24 pm

    @Almost Retired:

    That’s just flat out evil.  Can’t put that shit back into the tube.

  34. 34.

    Spanky

    January 16, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Lander is a college classmate. Brilliant guy and a good person to boot.

    And his relatives “Moon” and “Mars” are pretty great at science too!

  35. 35.

    Ken

    January 16, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    @Almost Retired: …with time, the mental images will fade…

    I understand that destruction of the optic lobes of the brain speeds the process.

  36. 36.

    Immanentize

    January 16, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    @Spanky: snerk

  37. 37.

    Yutsano

    January 16, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    @evodevo: Remember the Army sergeant* she danced with at the inauguration? Any chance she “kept up” with him. It would indeed be irresponsible not to speculate. It was the on;y time she had genuinely smiled that whole evening.

    *I honestly do not remember his rank. I do recall he was enlisted.

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    January 16, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: YOU KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF MISTER!!!

    Don’t even make me turn this blog around.

  39. 39.

    Ken

    January 16, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    @germy: According to Haberman,

    Said some of it related to reports Trump is now unable to see because he doesn’t have Twitter.

    As has been said many times, he’s the President of the United States, with (what were once) the finest intelligence services on the planet standing ready to provide him any information he wants; yet he gets everything from twitter, facebook, and select cable outlets.

  40. 40.

    CaseyL

    January 16, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Me, too!  More like this, please.

  41. 41.

    germy

    January 16, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    When you love upholding democracy, you’ll never work a day in your life. https://t.co/qaBGR6di48

    — Michael Gerber (@mgerber937) January 16, 2021

  42. 42.

    Baud

    January 16, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    Online misinformation about election fraud plunged 73 percent after  sites suspended President Trump and key allies last week, research firm Zignal Labs has found, underscoring the power of tech companies to limit the falsehoods poisoning public debate when they act aggressively.

  43. 43.

    VeniceRiley

    January 16, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    This photog has credentials and got this close to Pelosi signing impeachment articles.
    Hope they revoke his credentials for the inaugural.  When are we going to get serious about security?
    https://twitter.com/JRofATX/status/1349510509209530371?s=20

  44. 44.

    Felanius Kootea

    January 16, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    @Almost Retired:
    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I’m gasping for air here.  You guys need to cut it out.

    Back to the original topic – I’m happy that the science advisor has been elevated to a cabinet level position.  About time.

  45. 45.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:01 pm

    Boebert’s communication director just resigned after 2 weeks. He previously was connected to Mitch McConnell. So rather mainstream Repug.

    Thoughts about the rumor that Boebert’s mother is the terrorist recorded with the bullhorn bellowing about “taking the Capitol” and seemed to know the layout? I haven’t seen the video.

  46. 46.

    WaterGirl

    January 16, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    @VeniceRiley:

    When are we going to get serious about security?

    Apparently not soon enough.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    January 16, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Thoughts about the rumor that Boebert’s mother is the terrorist recorded with the bullhorn bellowing about “taking the Capitol” and seemed to know the layout? I haven’t seen the video.

    Please please please let the be her mother.  I want Boebert out and gone.  Yesterday.

  48. 48.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    Connie Schultz had this up on her FB feed:

    https://www.ucc.org

    Reports that liberal churches to be attacked 1/17

  49. 49.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    @WaterGirl: it would be cool if it was her mother.

    New piece out on Madison Cawthorn by Olivia Nuzzi. Cawthorn seems to think if he and Boebert had stood on the Capitol steps that might could have stopped it. Never mind he spoke at the rally beforehand. The piece is well worth the read. NY Mag

  50. 50.

    Mike in NC

    January 16, 2021 at 4:14 pm

    @Almost Retired:  That was great!

  51. 51.

    Immanentize

    January 16, 2021 at 4:18 pm

    @Quinerly:

    New piece out on Madison Cawthorn by Olivia Nuzzi. Cawthorn seems to think if he and Boebert had stood on the Capitol steps that might could have stopped it.

    Thought that boy couldn’t stand.

  52. 52.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:23 pm

    @Immanentize: excellent point. He in his wheelchair, she standing. My wording wasn’t that great, was it? Read it while at the dog park earlier. Another recommendation is the piece on the Don’t Tread on Me terrorist who was radicalized and then trampled for what could have been an hr. Warning… Video.

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    January 16, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Wow, that’s my church. We aren’t meeting in person, haven’t been since March.

  54. 54.

    Haroldo

    January 16, 2021 at 4:32 pm

    @Immanentize:

    Ah, Thank Yew, Jezzuss!  I can walk!  I can walk!

  55. 55.

    Immanentize

    January 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    @Haroldo: I swear that is how that boy’s saga is gonna end.  And the dude from Texas with the eye patch?  He will see again.

  56. 56.

    rikyrah

    January 16, 2021 at 4:45 pm

    @Almost Retired:

    ?????

  57. 57.

    rikyrah

    January 16, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

     

    ????

  58. 58.

    NotMax

    January 16, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    @Quinerly

    if he and Boebert had stood on the Capitol steps

    But they were fresh out of ax handles.

    //

  59. 59.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    @zhena gogolia: I enjoy Connie’s FB feed. Always interesting stuff that I miss from other sources. This church stuff should be getting more press.

    I think it was on her feed that I saw where one of these abortion clinic bombers was also there on 1/6 and has been arrested.

  60. 60.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 4:50 pm

    @Immanentize: sorry about the crazy looking link. That’s what my phone does to them on a copy/paste job.

    Link

    edited

  61. 61.

    MoCA Ace

    January 16, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    @Almost Retired:

    I that some sort of cry for help?

    I was just skimming and got to “She sighs and accepts his advances” when it hit me where you were going with that.

    I baled… I don’t need that evil in my head.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    January 16, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    @Quinerly

    Cleaned it up for ya. Linky

  63. 63.

    Quinerly

    January 16, 2021 at 5:04 pm

    @NotMax: great. You’re hired!

  64. 64.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 16, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    New: @JoeBiden plans to begin his first term with a flurry of executive orders, including rejoining Paris climate accord, ending ban on predominantly Muslim countries, halting evictions & student loan payments during the pandemic and issuing a mask mandate on federal property.— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 16, 2021

  65. 65.

    Original Lee

    January 16, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    Maybe the Jacksls who are more tech-savvy than I am can help. We signed up for the virtual inauguration and got a card with a QR Code on it for various cool extras. I scanned the QR Code and got shunted over to a website that told me I needed to sign up for an account in order to activate the code. OK fine, 14-day free trial sucks but whatevs. Signed up, tried again, got told the code has been deactivated. At this point, I’m not touching it any more, but what should I do at this point?

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    January 16, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    Put the SF Giants on the dead-to-me list.

    Christine Pelosi, a big deal in California politics and daughter of the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, is poised to quit the board of the San Francisco Giants Community fund after revelations that principal owner Charles Johnson and his wife Ann are financial contributors to a Republican legislator accused of endangering the life of Pelosi’s mother.

    The Johnsons each gave $2,800 to Rep. Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican, who was live tweeting the movements of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a violent mob ransacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    Boebert’s sharing on Twitter that Nancy Pelosi was in the House chambers, and then tweeting again when she left the chambers, drew intense criticism from legislators. They accused Boebert of trying to aid rioters looking for the House speaker after the disrupted congressional ratification of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory over President Donald Trump.

    News of Johnson’s financial support of Boebert broke on Thursday. Christine Pelosi, a 12-year member of the board, said she wanted to wait to hear from the Giants before she criticized the team or said anything negative.

    Then the Giants issued a muddled statement in which the team “condemned” the violence at the U.S. Capitol and reiterated its policy of prohibiting contributions to federal elections by the organization. But, the Giants said, political contributions by “employees and investors are considered personal in nature.”

    https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article248548500.html#storylink=cpywww.sacbee.com/opinion/article248548500.html#storylink=cpy

  67. 67.

    Brachiator

    January 16, 2021 at 5:37 pm

    @Ken:

    Said some of it related to reports Trump is now unable to see because he doesn’t have Twitter.

    As has been said many times, he’s the President of the United States, with (what were once) the finest intelligence services on the planet standing ready to provide him any information he wants; yet he gets everything from twitter, facebook, and select cable outlets.

    Trump and Fox, Bad Twitter, etc, formed a perfect idiot feedback loop.

    Online misinformation about election fraud plunged 73 percent after  sites suspended President Trump and key allies last week, research firm Zignal Labs has found, underscoring the power of tech companies to limit the falsehoods poisoning public debate when they act aggressively.

    Interesting. Some techno libertarians think that you should never interfere with or delete falsehoods and just let people decide for themselves.  But propagandists take advantage of this and ramp up the bullshit.

  68. 68.

    zhena gogolia

    January 16, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    How can we keep Democrats in power forever? (democratically, of course)

  69. 69.

    Another Scott

    January 16, 2021 at 5:51 pm

    @Scout211:

    … using Thurgood Marshall’s Bible.

    Good, good.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  70. 70.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 16, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    @zhena gogolia: C’est possible. A Tiger? Which year?

  71. 71.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 16, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    @Spanky: Snort. Perhaps you’ve been hanging around NotMax a bit too much lately? //

  72. 72.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 16, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Let’s you and me fight! //

  73. 73.

    gwangung

    January 16, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    @Brachiator: Yes. Big tech is gamed so easily. And they’re often not good at anticipating unintended consequences

  74. 74.

    Scout211

    January 16, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    @Another Scott:

    … using Thurgood Marshall’s Bible.

    Oooh, that’s some extra goodness!

  75. 75.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 16, 2021 at 6:09 pm

    @Brachiator: Trump was living the dream of every 3-year-old: his special friends on the TV were actually talking to him personally.

  76. 76.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 16, 2021 at 6:13 pm

    his special friends on the TV were actually talking to him personally.

    (wait a minute, I’M living that dream now, and it’s not so great, they keep giving me work to do)

  77. 77.

    Ruckus

    January 16, 2021 at 6:19 pm

    @Ken: 
    Can’t hear lies, innuendo, bullshit and how great he is if you tell the truth. Also those are the only concepts he understands….

  78. 78.

    Sister Golden Bear

    January 16, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    @Haroldo: More like: “Mein Führer! I can walk!”

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