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Easy Targets Open Thread: Florida Lit’rary Man…

by Anne Laurie|  January 17, 20214:32 pm| 167 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up, Schadenfreude

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Disappointing that so many people are assuming this is a scam and not a sign of the President’s deep love of literature and learning. When did we all become so cynical? https://t.co/1yaoQG3Rc9

— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) January 17, 2021

Who better qualified for the task than Dan Scavino, Trump’s former caddy and devoted keeper (until it was permabanned) of Trump’s personal Twitter account.

Anyone who ‘donates’ as much as fifteen cents in hard currency to this particular grift is either a willing mark or someone looking for a favor… but how many favors will be Trump’s to grant, once he’s escorted off the White House premises?

Per the original Washington Post article:

… Speculation is also coursing through Trump World about a possible presidential library and museum. No announcements have been made, but two people familiar with internal discussions said it is likely to be located in Florida and run by Dan Scavino, one of Trump’s longest-serving and most loyal aides who advises him on social media and most recently served as deputy White House chief of staff.

One of these people, who was a top fundraiser on Trump’s campaign, said the president has told supporters he wants to raise $2 billion for the library — a far greater sum than has been raised for past presidential libraries — and thinks he can collect it in small-dollar donations from his grass-roots supporters.

“I thought to myself, what is this alternative fantasy life you’re living?” this fundraiser said. “I have no clue where they think they’ll get this money raised. Anyone who gives to him will be radioactive.”

Asked about raising money for the library, another former top Trump fundraiser wrote in a text message: “Insane.” This person noted that, “except for the wackos, everybody’s running for the hills.”…

There’s gonna be a network of shell LLCs that spends $2 billion to make an Arby’s with a single copy of Art of the Deal in it and the financial reports will look like a sudoku filled in by a manic orangutan https://t.co/GtqTGjc1y2

— Mark Agee (@MarkAgee) January 17, 2021

The part that will keep a horde of paralegals busy for years is sorting out which funds were misappropriated by Trump family members and cronies, which were misappropriated-without-permission-from-Himself ditto, and which never existed beyond some weasel words and a line on some photocopied ‘financial document’.

“It fits in with Florida’s overall character of being the magnet for all insanity in the universe … Florida, in some freakish, horrible way, is the Trumpiest of states. This is the logical place for them to come,” ?@TheRickWilson? https://t.co/2OciZchLXg

— Eugene Scott (@Eugene_Scott) January 17, 2021

More schadenfreude:

… By migrating… to Palm Beach, Fla., Trump plans to inhabit an alternative reality of adoration and affirmation. The defeated president will take up residence at his gilded Mar-a-Lago Club, where dues-paying members applaud him whenever he eats meals or mingles on the deck. He is sure to take in the same celebratory fervor whenever he plays golf at one of the two Trump-branded courses nearby…

Trump may have imagined a mischief-making, mega-rally farewell — complete with a tease about reclaiming the White House in 2024 — to draw attention from President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration and to remind fellow Republicans that he still rules the roost.

But there will be no such grand departure in the wake of the Capitol insurrection…

… Trump has been consumed with anger over his impeachment Wednesday by the House for inciting the Capitol riot, advisers said. He is also upset by the silence from many of his most vigorous defenders, and is nursing feelings of betrayal from Republican congressional leaders, they said…

Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, are shopping for a house in Jupiter, Fla., about 15 miles from Palm Beach, according to a person familiar with their plans, confirming a New York Post report. Trump Jr.’s ex-wife, Vanessa, and their five children moved to the area last year, this person said.

Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner, both White House senior advisers, recently purchased land owned by pop star Julio Iglesias in Indian Creek, a gated private island near Miami that is home to celebrities, business figures and professional athletes, including Jay-Z, Beyoncé and football star Tom Brady.

Daughter Tiffany Trump also is shopping for property in Miami, according to Page Six…

At least they’ll all be corralled in one place, where the rest of us can keep an eye on them. Condolences on your new neighbors, Betty, Adam, other Floridian jackals…

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    January 17, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    That’s $2 billion that can’t be used against Democrats.

  2. 2.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    The whole Trump family’s moving to coastal Florida?  Suddenly global warming doesn’t seem like such a big deal.

  3. 3.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    January 17, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    He can’t live at Mar A Lago for more than 21 days. Period.

  4. 4.

    Ryan

    January 17, 2021 at 4:41 pm

    Unfortunately, there are no more tweets to print out and bind into volumes.

  5. 5.

    Parfigliano

    January 17, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    I thought the scumbag cant reside at Mar A Lago.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    Betcha the artist’s conception drawing will show it spelled “Liberry.”

  7. 7.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    … By migrating… to Palm Beach, Fla., Trump plans to inhabit an alternative reality of adoration and affirmation. The defeated president will take up residence at his gilded Mar-a-Lago Club, where dues-paying members applaud him whenever he eats meals or mingles on the deck. He is sure to take in the same celebratory fervor whenever he plays golf at one of the two Trump-branded courses nearby…

    Methinks Mar-a-Largo is going to be having an exodus of dues-paying members

  8. 8.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 17, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    I blogged earlier about the reality of a trump library. The nonprofit setup for it will collapse on itself because trump and his peeps CAN’T BE TRUSTED WITH A NONPROFIT. Theres few places he can place something like that without controversy even in Florida. If he tries Mar A Lago the National Archives will reject it as vulnerable to hurricanes and floods. And it will never be a true library it will be a gift shop selling MAGA towels and trump branded golf clubs.

  9. 9.

    Anne Laurie

    January 17, 2021 at 4:45 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Maybe his favorite daughter and her loving hubbie will let Daddie use their guest house… for a consideration, of course.

    (He may have to share the bathroom with their Secret Service detail, though.)

    Actually, I doubt the Palm Beach authorities will be able to enforce the ‘no more than 21 days occupancy’ rule without spending more on legal fees than it would be worth.  But if they can figure out how to fine him on a regular basis, now…

  10. 10.

    Benw

    January 17, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    He may move to Florida, but whatever lawyers he has left better live in Manhattan….

  11. 11.

    Mike in NC

    January 17, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    A guy who never reads books isn’t going to build a library. He just cannot stop committing crimes.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    January 17, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Assuming he wants to put the library there (or at least has bold plans to do so), the city has a lot of leverage.

  13. 13.

    MattF

    January 17, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    There’s already a website!

  14. 14.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 17, 2021 at 4:49 pm

    @NotMax: Betcha the artist’s conception drawing will show it spelled Lie-bury.

    ‘Cuz it’s where they’ll bury all his lies!

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    Pull the club’s liquor license.

    Place will be emptier than a Bill Cosby concert in 24 hours.

  16. 16.

    matt the semi-reasonable

    January 17, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    He’s gonna try to steal the money to pay Deutsche Bank

  17. 17.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    @Anne Laurie: @dmsilev: Unless Mar-A-Lago has its own generator and well, the city has plenty of leverage.

  18. 18.

    matt the semi-reasonable

    January 17, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    I can imagine something like Scientology’s glitzy centers, but for QAnon. And maybe an archive of Trump’s entire Twitter output.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo

    “Now, about the exterior — gildy or not gildy?”

    //

  20. 20.

    RSA

    January 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    @MattF:

    There’s already a website!

    Nicely done.

  21. 21.

    Anonymous At Work

    January 17, 2021 at 4:54 pm

    Two hard questions, not one, for the donors:

    1. How many favors *can* Trump grant, even assuming he stays out of prison and bankruptcy?
    2. How many favors *would* Trump grant to anyone that is not Donald J Trump?

    Also, kinda curious why Trump didn’t try to get an entire Chapter of Bankruptcy Code set aside for him…

  22. 22.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    …and is nursing feelings of betrayal from Republican congressional leaders, they said…

    Cannot describe how tired I am of hearing about the Toddler in Chief’s wounded fee-fees.

    It will be ever so refreshing to know that the fate of untold numbers of people does not rest upon the shitgibbon’s mood swings.

  23. 23.

    Mallard Filmore

    January 17, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    @Parfigliano:

     

    I thought the scumbag cant reside at Mar A Lago.

    Taking a wild guess here, this arrangement started as a property tax discount. Since past presidents are rather difficult to dislodge, I suspect it will end as a revocation of any tax favors he was granted and become a tax collection issue. This will end up getting resolved when the property is sold (or defaults to the state).

    ETA: Also at risk are permits to host large gatherings and liquor licences.

  24. 24.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 17, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    Hello… actual librarian here. I made some arguments aboot this already…!

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    “Located on the most beautiful street in Florida, My Pillow Boulevard.”

    //

  26. 26.

    JMG

    January 17, 2021 at 4:59 pm

    As one of my son’s friends said right after the 2016 election, the Trump Library will have “the loosest slots in town!”

  27. 27.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 17, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: They’ll have no documents to archive because Trump ate them all. It’ll be printouts of tweets.

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    @MattF:

    That site is wicked pissah.

  29. 29.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 5:01 pm

    “This is the end that he would have scripted for himself, actually,” D’Antonio said. “He has always imagined himself as an embattled person. He’s talked about life itself being a constant struggle for survival and how he’s surrounded by enemies . . . that the world conspires against him and that he is a lonely hero who is underappreciated and besieged.”

    Maybe he can have a ghostwriter pen a book for him. It could even have a simple title, say Mein Kampf…er, My Struggle.

  30. 30.

    dm

    January 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    I expect one wing will be a residence, and possibly an adjoining golf course.

    and there’ll be a “ten-thousand seat” (with one thousand folding chairs) auditorium where he can hold rallies each week.

    Also, a mock-up of the “server in Ukraine” with … what was it?  Biden emails or something?

    Plus a special display with mockups of photographs of ballots in ditches and a shipping container from China with already-filled-in Biden ballots.

  31. 31.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    @NotMax:

    Doesn’t the state, and presumably Trump mini-me DeSatan control that?

  32. 32.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    @Mallard Filmore:

    I figured the Murderer-in-Chief would get around the Mar-a-Grifto “can’t live there” thing by having Pam Bondi declare it to be OK by her. But then I discovered she’s no longer Florida AG. But your comments make sense.

  33. 33.

    LuciaMia

    January 17, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    Yumpin’-Yiminy, CanNOT wait till Wednesday.

  34. 34.

    sdhays

    January 17, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    @danielx: This is the end that he would have scripted for himself, actually

    Bullshit.

  35. 35.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    Cafeteria will, of course, be named DeJoy of Cooking.

    //

  36. 36.

    debbie

    January 17, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    Don’t know who this dude is but he broke that shit DOWN!! Listen especially the ones that need to hear it!! pic.twitter.com/gSZno2yaRh
    — Leslie Jones ? (@Lesdoggg) January 17, 2021

  37. 37.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    @MattF:

    Not bad!

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    Condolences on your new neighbors, Betty, Adam, other Floridian jackals…

    You must have been really bad people in a previous life.

  39. 39.

    Anonymous At Work

    January 17, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    @SFAW:  AG isn’t in charge of that, zoning board is and Trump would have a hard time getting around it, since ZB is run by retired attorneys with nothing better to do than harass neighbors over perceived slights to property values.

  40. 40.

    Pauline

    January 17, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    @MattF: The best part is where it’s located in my home town.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    For a number of years, I’ve suggested that Texas get renamed “Dumbfuckistan,” and have all the RWMFs deported there, followed by the construction of a “big, beautiful wall” to keep them in. [Might consider turning Austin and Houston into latter-day West Berlins, because they seem to be Blue centers. But with the Traitor-in-Chief and his spawn all moving to FLA, I’m thinking that might be a better location. And with sea levels rising, hilarity would ensue. [NB: Naturally, there’d have to be some sort of accommodation made for Betty Cracker, Adam Silverman, and the rest of the Florida Juicers.]

  42. 42.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    @sdhays:

    Hey, it’s not MY quote. And it wouldn’t have been the end I’d have scripted for him either.

  43. 43.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Wanna bet?

  44. 44.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:12 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You must have been really bad people in a previous life.

    They’ve more than made up for any of that, in this life.

  45. 45.

    Skepticat

    January 17, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    It fits in with Florida’s overall character of being the magnet for all insanity in the universe … Florida, in some freakish, horrible way, is the Trumpiest of states.

    A college friend always talked abut the rooftop theory—the U.S. is a house with a pitched roof, and Florida and Southern California are the gutters.

    @PaulWartenberg: And it will never be a true library it will be a gift shop selling MAGA towels and trump branded golf clubs.

    This.

  46. 46.

    Michael Cain

    January 17, 2021 at 5:14 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: 

    If he tries Mar A Lago the National Archives will reject it as vulnerable to hurricanes and floods.

    Why do you think Trump will let the National Archives have anything to do with this, or hand over any of the interesting documents? Or that this SCOTUS won’t find big chunks of the Presidential Records Act unconstitutional?

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    @danielx: OT, but how is your daughter doing?  Only mild symptoms, I hope.

  48. 48.

    Haroldo

    January 17, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    @MattF: 

    Thank you. That’s truly a work of art.

  49. 49.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 17, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    @SFAW: Neither Texas nor Florida is uniformly Republican enough to really deserve it. There are sections of Wyoming we could probably fence off.

  50. 50.

    debbie

    January 17, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    Trump Library = Amusement Park. I can’t wait to see what he charges for admission, etc.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    @debbie:  I love that and plan to listen to it again.

    Probably best, though, to link to the fellow himself so he gets the credit.

  52. 52.

    Lapassionara

    January 17, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    @Ken: That was my thought too. Isnt Miami already having flooding problems?

  53. 53.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    @Anonymous At Work:

    Although Zoning Boards have a lot of local power, I would bet a beer that various regs could get “amended,” were enough pressure brought to bear by the appropriate state politicians. And I think zoning regs have been thrown out, if they run afoul of state law/policy.

    But I get your point.

  54. 54.

    debbie

    January 17, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    @MattF:

    Rats! We missing being able to vote for nominees for the Hall of Enablers!

  55. 55.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    @Michael Cain:

    Or that this SCOTUS won’t find big chunks of the Presidential Records Act unconstitutional?

    Why would they do that?

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    @SFAW: What are you talking about? Sentenced to entertaining a bunch of unappreciative jackals who whine about everything under the sun all day long.

  57. 57.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    @danielx: Maybe he can have a ghostwriter pen a book for him. It could even have a simple title,

    “DSM-5” is already taken.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:20 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Neither Texas nor Florida is uniformly Republican enough to really deserve it. There are sections of Wyoming we could probably fence off.

    Fair enough. Maybe they could rename it “Nuevo Florida,” and Shitgibbon and his evil spawn would move there? [Along with all the RWMFs, of course.] Maybe they can do the same marketing/sales job that was done for Greenland, centuries ago.

  59. 59.

    debbie

    January 17, 2021 at 5:20 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Yes thanks, I found it and his name on youtube after posting.

  60. 60.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:21 pm

    @SFAW:

    Fair enough. Maybe they could rename it “Nuevo Florida,” and Shitgibbon and his evil spawn would move there? [Along with all the RWMFs, of course.] Maybe they can do the same marketing/sales job that was done for Greenland, centuries ago.

    I propose the Florida panhandle for “Nuevo Florida”. It’s pretty Trumpy/deep red

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    What are you talking about? Sentenced to entertaining a bunch of unappreciative jackals who whine about everything under the sun all day long.

    Exactly. You DON’T consider that majorly penance? It’s bought them a lot of positive karma, I think, no need to add to their penance.

  62. 62.

    Just One More Canuck

    January 17, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    @MattF: this is brilliant

  63. 63.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I propose the Florida panhandle. It’s pretty Trumpy/deep red

    Isn’t that where Betty lives? [I can never remember.] If so, don’t you think she has enough asshole neighbors already? I mean, philosophically, it’s a good point, but …

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 5:25 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Whine, you say?

    It’s — um, er, hmph — interpretive critique.

    :)

  65. 65.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    By the way: were you able to get a second full-night’s sleep? I saw your mention of getting one, the other day, was hoping it was going to turn into a streak.

  66. 66.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    @SFAW: I take it as a sign that god really really really hates them and he will bring down such an unending tide of suffering upon them that it will make what he did to Job look like a nice leisurely spring walk in the park.

  67. 67.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    @NotMax:

    interpretive critique

    Danced around that one, I see.

  68. 68.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    it will make what he did to Job look like a nice leisurely spring walk in the park.

    “Hast thou considered My servant Betty” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

  69. 69.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    @SFAW: Nope. Woke up the next night at 11 and could not go back to sleep. Woke up last night at 10:30. And 12 midnight. And 1:15. And 4. Got up after that.

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    @SFAW

    I see what you did there.

    :)

  71. 71.

    Raven

    January 17, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    @SFAW: Tampa area

  72. 72.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    @SFAW:

    Neither can I. However, TIL that Alabama tried to annex the Panhandle throughout the 19th century so it could always be worse

  73. 73.

    Kent

    January 17, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    At least they’ll all be corralled in one place, where the rest of us can keep an eye on them. Condolences on your new neighbors, Betty, Adam, other Floridian jackals…

    Sounds like they are all getting nicely lined up so that one big hurricane can take out the entire clan in one landfall.

  74. 74.

    Michael Cain

    January 17, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Why would they do that?

    So that Trump and descendants can tell the National Archives to pound sand when they try to get any of the million interesting pages of records that aren’t going to be turned over.

  75. 75.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 17, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    If donors want to spend their money on this, who am I to get in their way?

  76. 76.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @Raven: Not anymore? I thought the new place was much further north.

  77. 77.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I propose the Florida panhandle for “Nuevo Florida”. It’s pretty Trumpy/deep red

    Yeah, but they dress pretty low-class, according to noted fashion critic Donald J. Trump.

  78. 78.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @NotMax:

    I would hope so.

  79. 79.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Sorry to hear it. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for non-rare full-night sleeps

  80. 80.

    prufrock

    January 17, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    To give you an idea of how ridiculous that 2 billion number is, the new building that houses STRATCOM on Offutt AFB took years to construct and cost 1.5 billion including the massive overruns.

    And it still has issues. So what I’m saying is there is a case of getting the right contractors for the Trump library.

  81. 81.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    @Michael Cain:

    I thought any papers were property of the US, not the resident?

  82. 82.

    ChiJD Doug

    January 17, 2021 at 5:37 pm

    @MattF: parody, right?

  83. 83.

    hueyplong

    January 17, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    Based on her photos and written descriptions, B Cracker’s neighbor is more likely to be the Dennis Hopper character with a bunch of cameras around his neck than a bunch of jet-setting GOP grifters.

    “You don’t talk to the Cracker, man, you listen to her.”

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    OT.

    Now that’s weird.

    Post office truck pulled into the driveway five minutes ago and the postman delivered an overdue Priority Mail package. On a Sunday afternoon.

  85. 85.

    Uncle Cosmo

    January 17, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    @NotMax: “Now, about the exterior — gildy or not gildy?”//

    Not gildy by reason of InsHannity, Yerroner!

  86. 86.

    noncarborundum

    January 17, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    Bugs-Bunny-sawing-Florida-off-and-watching-it-float-away.gif

  87. 87.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 17, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    @MattF: There’s a lot of detail there!

    Adults (citizens): $25

    Adults (immigrants): $50

    “Grift Shop” has Pardons for Sale (pay what you want)!

    And so much, much more.

  88. 88.

    Redshift

    January 17, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    @danielx: Yeah, the author of that seems not to understand the difference between playing the victim (which he loves) and being the victim (which he doesn’t.)

  89. 89.

    chrome agnomen

    January 17, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Kanye…I mean yeezy, has got a spread outside of Cody.    maybe he’d be willing to donate some space.   Wyoming, that is.    can’t get much redder.   dick Cheney could be in charge of the archives.

  90. 90.

    Redshift

    January 17, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    @NotMax: We’ve had them come by several times in Sunday in the past month or so. They’re still trying to dig out from the DeJoy sabotage and the historic holiday volume, I think.

  91. 91.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    @NotMax:

    OT.

    Now that’s weird.

    Post office truck pulled into the driveway five minutes ago and the postman delivered an overdue Priority Mail package. On a Sunday afternoon.

    Maybe the mail man has gone postal because of DeJoke’s regs?

  92. 92.

    LuciaMia

    January 17, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    the U.S. is a house with a pitched roof, and Florida and Southern California are the gutters.

    And people on the fringe will just keep moving on, till they finally run out of country.

  93. 93.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 17, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    @ChiJD Doug: Yeah, I don’t think there’s a 1 MAGA Lane in Nogales, AZ.

    Haven’t yet found a clue to who’s behind it, but the Donate page seems to be sincere. The rest of it is just brilliant parody with a frightening amount of attention to detail.

    Edit: The “Our Team” page lists Anthony Scaramucci and Luke Thayer, whoever that is. Is that real? Scaramuci’s name made me think maybe not, but… maybe? Now I think maybe Thayer is the brains behind this masterpiece.

  94. 94.

    There go two miscreants

    January 17, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    except for the wackos, everybody’s running for the hills

    Needs to be a rotating tag!

  95. 95.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    @Michael Cain:

    Yeah, but why would the SCOTUS care about that? They didn’t interfere when Trump tried to overturn the election. The conservative 6 don’t owe Trump anything

  96. 96.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    January 17, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    The Kardiac Kids are back!

  97. 97.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    @SFAW: They are.

  98. 98.

    Gvg

    January 17, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    @Ken: I doubt any coastal property has a well. Dig and you hit salt water. The aquifer is inland and deep in south Florida. Water rights and sources are already limiting growth down there and will more in the future.

  99. 99.

    LuciaMia

    January 17, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    @NotMax: theyve finally shoveled out all the over flow spaces that got filled up over Christmas.

  100. 100.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    @Ken:

    Yeah, but they dress pretty low-class, according to noted fashion critic Donald J. Trump

    Ah yes, how could I forget? Donald John Trump knows fashion; you know he does because he wears oversized suits and spray pains his skin orange lol

  101. 101.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 17, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    @NotMax: The local postmaster used to do that here on a semi regular basis when his carriers were overwhelmed. Pre Dejoy.

  102. 102.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 5:50 pm

    @NotMax: The correct spelling is, of course, lyburry.

  103. 103.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    January 17, 2021 at 5:51 pm

    So… the 17th is almost over and no attack from the Q folks. Today was one of the days that there was a lot of chatter about (Q being the 17th letter of the alphabet).

    Were they intimidated by the arrests and the fortification of DC? Is it possible we might hope for getting through the 20th without another insurrection?

  104. 104.

    hueyplong

    January 17, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: And tomorrow is MKL Day.  And the 19th is AllQ’sEve or whatever.

    Every day can be something if a Q person pretzels it out just right.

  105. 105.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    @NotMax:

    “Give those nymphs some hooters!!!”

  106. 106.

    craigie

    January 17, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    @MattF: That is amazing, and doubly amazing that someone took the time to do it. I guess all those COVID hours gotta go somewhere.

  107. 107.

    Bill Arnold

    January 17, 2021 at 5:57 pm

    @Kent:

    Sounds like they are all getting nicely lined up so that one big hurricane can take out the entire clan in one landfall.

    Yep. :-)

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 5:57 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Is it possible we might hope for getting through the 20th without another insurrection?

    Better than even chance of that. They’ve shot their wad boomerang.

    Expect there will be some minor disruptions, those scattered and at the edges.

  109. 109.

    Joy in FL

    January 17, 2021 at 5:59 pm

    I bumped into this Wellerman sea chanty, but it’s about COVID. It’s by a scientist and very clever.
    https://twitter.com/acapellascience/status/1350782855564111875?s=21

  110. 110.

    cckids

    January 17, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    @JMG:As one of my son’s friends said right after the 2016 election, the Trump Library will have “the loosest slots in town!”

    There’s really no need to disparage honest casinos with comparisons to Trump.

    Never forget; the reason the Trump hotel in Vegas doesn’t have a casino is that the NV gaming board wouldn’t give him a license because of his poor financial history and mob ties.

  111. 111.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I think you’re right about them being intimidated.  But did you see the report that after the cut-off of Trump’s twitter and a bunch of others, internet fake information and conspiracy theories have fallen off something like 70%?  Maybe the signals to act were also cut off.

  112. 112.

    MomSense

    January 17, 2021 at 6:01 pm

    I don’t want anything to do with them, but what the hell are we as a nation going to do about all these brainwashed people?

  113. 113.

    mrmoshpotato

    January 17, 2021 at 6:01 pm

    the financial reports will look like a sudoku filled in by a manic orangutan

    But will Dump use crayons or Sharpies?

    To hell with Bill Maher, but he did give us the story of Dump being the son of an orangutan.

  114. 114.

    Alison Rose

    January 17, 2021 at 6:04 pm

    Glad my grandparents are both long passed on so they don’t have to live in a state populated by so many Trumps. Jupiter isn’t far from where they lived. Blech.

  115. 115.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    January 17, 2021 at 6:04 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Were they intimidated by the arrests and the fortification of DC? Is it possible we might hope for getting through the 20th without another insurrection?

    We can only hope. I know there was a guy with 500 rounds of ammo that was trying gain access to the Capitol by posing as private security

  116. 116.

    Michael Cain

    January 17, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Yeah, but why would the SCOTUS care about that? They didn’t interfere when Trump tried to overturn the election. The conservative 6 don’t owe Trump anything

    Four unitary executive justices are enough to grant cert.  A fifth and the PRA restrictions on the president are toast.  That assumes that some lower court agrees that someone — the Archivist? — has standing to sue.  These are strange times.  And while winning the Presidency and both houses of Congress has saved us from some things, McConnell’s court loading is something we will be fighting for a long time.

  117. 117.

    Another Scott

    January 17, 2021 at 6:11 pm

    @Joy in FL: Excellent.  Thanks for the pointer.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  118. 118.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 6:11 pm

    @MomSense: There’s not much that can be done, other than pushing back; “freedom to be insane” wasn’t on Roosevelt’s list but for all practical purposes it exists. Of course if they take action, they can be arrested.

  119. 119.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 17, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, are shopping for a house in Jupiter, Fla., about 15 miles from Palm Beach,

    She still on the payroll?

  120. 120.

    Geminid

    January 17, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    @NotMax: I don’t worry so much about militia operations, but I do worry about car bombs and backpack bombs. Not just for the next few days, but for the next few years.

  121. 121.

    Nicole

    January 17, 2021 at 6:14 pm

    I dunno how the fundraising is going to work out for him.  I can see these cult followers of his giving him their money to overturn election results, but a LIBRARY?  Eh, what’s in it for them? Nothing.

    But how unsurprising to know that the grift will go on.

    As I mentioned to WaterGirl today, all I want is to picture Ivanka lying awake at night, despairing that her father completely blew up her chance for a political career last week.

  122. 122.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    January 17, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Yeah but here’s what I suspect he hasn’t thought out. FL homestead law makes it nearly impossible for creditors to seize your primary residence in bankruptcy…kinda wonder though, if that residence isn’t a legal residence, that it’ll be protected from seizure.

  123. 123.

    p.a.

    January 17, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    @joshtpm posts Oleaginous Lindsey on Fux saying the Capitol riot is Pelosi’s fault because she’s in charge of security.  I’m really superstitious abt wishing evil on people but I can overcome that more and more often lately.

  124. 124.

    germy

    January 17, 2021 at 6:23 pm

    Lindsey Graham blames Nancy Pelosi for the security failure at the Capitol pic.twitter.com/SBJebqHTlM— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) January 17, 2021

    Imagine having stronger words for one of the people the insurrectionists were trying to kill than the guy who incited them in the first place. https://t.co/PEHQlODWMO— Tim Fullerton (@TimFullerton) January 17, 2021

  125. 125.

    Jay

    January 17, 2021 at 6:25 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    He was Private Security.

    The Fullest Story: Va man arrested w Glock had proper Park Police pass but PP had not communicated that to @SecretService, other law enforcement. Man has no extremist ties, cooperated fully with cops and was released, cleared from further investigation https://t.co/vtQUAXSCBl— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) January 17, 2021

  126. 126.

    Achrachno

    January 17, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    @MomSense: Maybe we can establish cities on the moon.

  127. 127.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 17, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Memo to @cnn @brianstelter @ReliableSources. When you refer to the Vice President-Elect…use her title. She is not “Kamala.” She is Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris. I never heard anyone call @VP Pence “Mike” in 4 years. Put some damn respect on her name and role!— Star Jones (@StarJonesEsq) January 17, 2021

  128. 128.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    January 17, 2021 at 6:29 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Kinda suspect the 6th was their big shot and most of the most committed were involved and hence either under arrest, or too nervous about Johnny Law showing up at their door to try again. I think they expected hundreds of thousands to show up on the 6th but drew less than 20k. They’re delusional about the size of their “army” so I’m not sure how many folks they could even turn out at this point.

  129. 129.

    Geoduck

    January 17, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    @NotMax:  The USPS has been delivering Amazon packages on Sunday for some time now, long before the Current Troubles, thanks to a deal they cut with the company. Is that who it was from?

  130. 130.

    Nicole

    January 17, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: That tweet you posted made me think about how the word seems to have gotten out to the Democrats to refer to it as the “Biden-Harris” Administration and I wholeheartedly approve.  I don’t recall other Administrations having the VPs name included so consistently.  I assume that instruction came from Biden, and good for him for doing it.

  131. 131.

    Frankensteinbeck

    January 17, 2021 at 6:37 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Is it possible we might hope for getting through the 20th without another insurrection?

    People here wildly underestimate how much those insurrectionists were LARPers from a culture of extreme chickenshits who would never have had the guts to storm the capitol if it had been properly defended.  They talk big about what gun-toting tough guys they are prepared for the race war, they spin elaborate fantasies about murdering their opponents, but they’re really pathetic bullies who have to feel like they have an overwhelming advantage before they’ll actually be violent.  Notice how shocked and baffled they are that they’re getting push back after?  And that’s the brave ones like the Proud Boys.  The rest are there to stand way back yelling and hoping someone else will commit murder.

  132. 132.

    Alison Rose

    January 17, 2021 at 6:39 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Sadly, I expect this is going to be an issue the whole time, from all points on the political spectrum. It’s maddening as fuck, too. Misogynoir in action.

  133. 133.

    trollhattan

    January 17, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    Guessing it will be indistinguishable from a giant Bass Pro Shop.

  134. 134.

    Geminid

    January 17, 2021 at 6:47 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Stelter is CNN’s media critic. I hope he he will have the integrity to apologize on air next Sunday.

  135. 135.

    Drdavechemist

    January 17, 2021 at 6:49 pm

    @Joy in FL: Nice performance and scientifically accurate, but we need SiubhanDuinne to work on the lyrics so they scan better. I can’t deal with “i-SO-la-tion”

  136. 136.

    evodevo

    January 17, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    @NotMax: Not surprising…we mail carriers have been having to work Amazon packages on Sundays for 4 years now…

  137. 137.

    catclub

    January 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Anyone who ‘donates’ as much as fifteen cents in hard currency

     

    Although a check for 15 cents would probably cost the organization

    more to cash than its value.  See also, famous article on how cheap Trump is.

  138. 138.

    catclub

    January 17, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: The rest are there to stand way back yelling and hoping someone else will commit murder.

     

    Looks that way.  A week ago warnings were that more revolts were coming on… Jan 17.

  139. 139.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 17, 2021 at 6:54 pm

    @cckids:

    Never forget; the reason the Trump hotel in Vegas doesn’t have a casino is that the NV gaming board wouldn’t give him a license because of his poor financial history and mob ties.

    Ha! I didn’t know he didn’t have a casino there. How the hell does a Vegas hotel survive without one?

    That said, my aunt and uncle used to go to Vegas to golf and generally be in the heat back when flying was a lot more expensive and there were cheap packages

  140. 140.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

     

     

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  Baja Georgia also works.

  141. 141.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 17, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Princess Ivanka’s Secret Service detail ends Wednesday at noon.

  142. 142.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Mild symptoms passed and she got out of Covid jail today. Yay!

  143. 143.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 6:57 pm

    @SFAW: ‘Course not. You gotta Romanicize that shit, dude.

    “Behold, my good and faithful servant, Bettitia, in whom I am well pleased.”

    “Oh, fuck my life…”

  144. 144.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    @chrome agnomen: Aren’t there some Reservations up that way?

    Walling those folks off with the Trumps would just be insult to injuries.

    Why not Idaho? Everybody forgets it exists already. Perfect place for internal exile.

  145. 145.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    @MomSense: Trepanning.

  146. 146.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 7:07 pm

     

     

    @Nicole: They get to prove their undying devotion to the Holy Brupp. That’s all they need. Faith is it’s own reward, y’know.

  147. 147.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Princess Ivanka’s Secret Service detail ends Wednesday at noon.

    All the more reason for her to persuade Daddy to live with her and Jared. Free security, though I guess they wouldn’t go with her when she goes shopping.

  148. 148.

    JoyceH

    January 17, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    You know, I can’t help enjoying the thought of how Trump’s early post-presidency is going to go.

    Picture, if you will – he’s in his quarters at Mar A Lago. And he’s stuck in there because he doesn’t want to bother with doing his hair and putting on his face, so he’s just there, watching television.

    What’s on the news? Biden Administration stuff. And Biden is getting a Honeymoon. The news media is so sick of doing pandemic stories that feature wrenching videos from heart-broken, furious nurses that they want to do some good news pandemic stories. So they’re breathlessly reporting that FEMA is over here doing this, and the National Guard is over there doing that, and the Defense Production Act has been invoked and smoothed out all these supply glitches, and here are all these vaccines being administered at high speed, and isn’t it all so awesome and organized?

    And there Trump sits – AND HE CAN’T EVEN TWEET!

  149. 149.

    Subsole

    January 17, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: This. These people are profoundly weak.

    Which does not, it must be noted, make their movement any less dangerous or destructive.

    But in a way it’s the warped mirror image of sll the Bernie supporters who thought Mitch would cave b/c a bunch of protestors camped on his lawn.

    They think they are going to be a big inspiration and the millions of people who secretly, silently agree are going to see that PC SJW culture can’t hurt them, and cast off Hillary’s Vagenda of Manocide in a glorious NeoConfederate revanchaissance.

    It’s buried in Limbaugh. For 30+ years these people have told thselves that everyone is a miserable bastard, they’re just the only ones with the BALLS! to be honest about it.

    Imagine their surprise…

  150. 150.

    Vhh

    January 17, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    @Baud: Absolutely. The real point is that it could bankrupt the GOP.

  151. 151.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 7:15 pm

    @JoyceH: Almost makes me believe in karma.  The only flaw is that he’ll retreat to whatever cable shows are pushing his version of reality.

  152. 152.

    JoyceH

    January 17, 2021 at 7:17 pm

    @Ken:

    The only flaw is that he’ll retreat to whatever cable shows are pushing his version of reality.

    Naw. He says he doesn’t watch CNN and MSNBC, but he does. He can’t help himself. If he were only watching Fox, he wouldn’t have done so much rage-tweeting at Joe Scarborough and Don Lemon.

  153. 153.

    danielx

    January 17, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    @JoyceH:

    A truly heartwarming picture.

  154. 154.

    Vhh

    January 17, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    @catclub: We could make $1 donations to keep them spending on mailers and media kits. Use some GOPers phone number, though.

  155. 155.

    Citizen Alan

    January 17, 2021 at 7:25 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Actually, I doubt the Palm Beach authorities will be able to enforce the ‘no more than 21 days occupancy’ rule without spending more on legal fees than it would be worth.

    If I were rich enough to live in that area, there would be no sum of money to great to spend on keeping Shitgibbon from becoming a permanent resident. I would bankrupt myself if that’s what it took.

  156. 156.

    Aleta

    January 17, 2021 at 7:26 pm

    Also in Florida:  asset protection.

    Is it easier for an indicted Trump to flee the country from Florida?  Could it be the state where they own the most judges?

  157. 157.

    jackmac

    January 17, 2021 at 7:26 pm

    The words Trump and Library conjure images of an elementary school classroom with crayon drawings, construction paper projects taped to the walls and books with big color images and single syllable words.

  158. 158.

    Aleta

    January 17, 2021 at 7:35 pm

    I like to imagine the cheer that will echo across the country on Wed.

    Last night I dreamed I was putting all the bells in the house on one table.  (My mother’s family’s one-room schoolhouse hand bell, the cats’  jingle bells, etc etc).  I thought I was dreaming about the New Year.  Now I realize it’s about the day he leaves and Biden’s team takes over.   Maybe  I will ring some in the street between dances.

  159. 159.

    Scout211

    January 17, 2021 at 7:37 pm

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/video-dept/a-reporters-footage-from-inside-the-capitol-siege

    This may have already been posted. A New Yorker reporter filmed the Capitol siege as it happened. Chilling.

  160. 160.

    Ken

    January 17, 2021 at 7:41 pm

    @JoyceH: That’s a good point, but will he keep watching CNN and MSNBC when they aren’t talking about him?  This is the man who wasn’t reading the PDBs until his staff started salting his name through the document.

  161. 161.

    dm

    January 17, 2021 at 7:45 pm

    @Joy in FL: Oh. A Capella Science!

    Check out his “Bohemian Gravity”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rjbtsX7twc

    Check out his “Evo Devo”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqReeTV_vk

    and… and… and…

  162. 162.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 17, 2021 at 7:49 pm

    @JoyceH: other than Scarborough and for a little while Nicole Wallace, and way back in the campaign “little” Katie Tur (gee, I wonder how she caught his eye….) I don’t ever remember him going after anyone else on MSNBC. Chris Hayes said the other day he had experience of what it’s like when trump targets a journalist, but I don’t remember that.

    By the time the evening shows roll around, he probably needs that steady diet of defense and adulation

  163. 163.

    CarolPW

    January 17, 2021 at 7:58 pm

    @Aleta: For tomorrow’s Covid-19 memorial they are asking cities to illuminate buildings and ring church bells at 5:30 pm ET. Would be a good use of your bells to join in. The pup has eaten the kitty jingle balls so I don’t even have any of those to ring.

  164. 164.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2021 at 8:18 pm

    @Geoduck

    Nope, not Amazon.

  165. 165.

    rikyrah

    January 17, 2021 at 9:12 pm

    @danielx:

    ?????

  166. 166.

    WaterGirl

    January 17, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    @danielx: Late getting back to this thread… that’s such great news!  You must all be very relieved.

  167. 167.

    ballerat

    January 17, 2021 at 10:25 pm

    @cckids:

    the NV gaming board wouldn’t give him a license because of his poor financial history and mob ties

    Since when would that ever stop a NV gaming commission? As if all the other casinos in Las Vegas don’t have owners with questionable business history or mob ties?

    I think it’s more about which people he has his business history with, and which mob he has ties to.

    I would hazard a guess the mob in Las Vegas is not the mob Trump is involved with.

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