Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

The lights are all blinking red.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

“But what about the lurkers?”

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

Second rate reporter says what?

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Bogus polls are all they’ve got left. Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls a year from now.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Let me file that under fuck it.

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A visual representation of how I feel after four years of Trump and a year of pandemic:

Christ It's Almost Fucking Over

I got the very welcome news that my parents will be getting their covid vaccinations in a few weeks. Just a couple more weeks, and they will be safe and able to resume their lives. It’s such a relief. I’m so glad they listened to me in the early days and took it seriously, and stayed at home and let me do things for them rather than have them go out and expose themselves to danger.

As I noted elsewhere, I know they aren’t going to live forever, but I will be god damned if this virus or by the callous disregard, incompetence, and malignant negligence from the tumor in the White House.

I hope he is in court every day of the remainder of his life before he finally chokes on a double cheeseburger and oozes his way off this planet.

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  1. 1.

    cain

    It’s not really over – even if you are vaccinated – you still can be a carrier. So we all need to be careful even afterwards.

  2. 2.

    Mary G

    My psyche sympathizes with that car. Glad your parents are almost to the vaccine. They’ve found another variant here in California.

  3. 3.

    LeftCoastYankee

    I hope he is in court every day of the remainder of his life before he finally chokes on a double cheeseburger and oozes his way off this planet.

    Winner!

  9. 9.

    Chat Noir

    I hope he is in court every day of the remainder of his life before he finally chokes on a double cheeseburger and oozes his way off this planet.

    I am so there with you. He is nothing but a cancer and deserves only misery.

  10. 10.

    dmsilev

    @HumboldtBlue: He never really got over being snubbed at his inaugural by all the performers who turned out for Obama. Glad to see it’s still eating at him.

  11. 11.

    Pennsylvanian

    That car looks like it could maybe be restored. Not so sure about the good olde USA.

    Can’t remember who said it, so attribution “not me”:

    I try to be a cynic but I can’t keep up.

    I remember a time when I thought that was funny.

  14. 14.

    artem1s

    oh man, the crappy old cars I and my friends have owned.
    Mid 90’s, my friend in Chicago needed something bare minimum he could get around town on. He had a very tight budget and bought a wreck of a compact, hatchback – I think is was a Nissan maybe – with hundreds of thousands of miles on it.  the interior was pretty much ripped out back to the framing and it reeked of gasoline.  Bought it for $200 maybe?  Everyone made fun of him wasting money on that car.  It not only lasted for a couple of years, he ended up selling it for more than he paid for it.

  19. 19.

    LuciaMia

    Was wondering what kind of movies TCM had for tomorrow. Assumed they might be about politics, Washington, etc. But no, its all movies with ‘Joe’ in the title. (Joe Smith, American., The Fabulous Joe, A Guy Named Joe.)  Its both funny and very sweet!

  20. 20.

    TomatoQueen

    Close of business. By the time this thing posts, assuming at least one 205 error (wotever it is), it’ll be COB at US Gov’t for Tuesday, January 19, 2021. Nothing more can be posted, and everybody has to be logged off by 6 pm. And that means the bastards are DONE. DONE. DONE.

  21. 21.

    Matt McIrvin

    I wonder how much faster things can even go once Biden is in. At the rate things are going in Massachusetts right now, it’ll take several years to vaccinate everybody. Obviously that’s not acceptable.

  22. 22.

    germy

    Today's layoffs at Fox's digital operation are "part of the network’s larger effort to pivot its website from straight-news reporting to right-wing opinion content in the mold of Fox’s primetime programming," The Daily Beast reports https://t.co/HSgfmfBaw4— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) January 19, 2021

  23. 23.

    CarolDuhart2

    Grief.  But anger.  I can’t think of a President (I was born under Eisenhower) who would have been that bad.  Bush bungled Katrina, but he finally let the experts do their thing.   Clinton would have felt our pain and rolled up his sleeves to get something done.  Obama handled N1H1 (12,000 deaths over 2 years), but thanks to his hard work,  we had a vaccine and an approach that meant people were able to get on with their lives-I even worked in a barn of a building and didn’t have to fear.  NIxon, LBJ, even Reagan would have at least let the scientists do their thing.

    Never have I had to spend 10 years (actually 10 months) in my house like this-never going on a bus, to the store, wearing masks even when I go out into the hallway).  I want my ordinary life back.  But I know I will have to wait until the adults get to dig into the files and start giving the orders.

  24. 24.

    germy

    BREAKING –> Fox News political editor Chris Stirewalt was laid off today alongside just under 20 Fox News staffers. Stirewalt sat on the Fox News decision desk, which has come under fire for its early call on Arizona election night. Story forthcoming…— Sarah Ellison (@sarahellison) January 19, 2021

  25. 25.

    Spinoza Is My Co-pilot

    @cain: At some point I think there will be sufficient numbers of people who have either been infected and are ok or have been vaccinated (by far the highest number of the two, I hope) so that social life can return to some semblance of the Before Time. When concert-going can return is what I’m looking forward to most, outside chance this fall, more likely some time in ’22.

  26. 26.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    I hope Biden calls him every day between those court appearances and just says…I got The Boss and Lady Gaga chump!

  29. 29.

    trnc

    After initially defending the idea that he may pardon himself or his family members out of concern they would be targeted once he’s out of office, Trump decided Saturday night that he would not pardon anyone in his family or himself.

    I’m sure this will have the staying power of all DT statements. So, look for pardons tonight.

  30. 30.

    germy

    Trump, who lied about the election results for two months and held just a handful of public events after losing, says in his farewell speech that Americans don't need to be "sheltered and protected from those with whom we disagree."

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 19, 2021

    His last official bit of projection as president.

  31. 31.

    Roger Moore

    @debbie:

    He ain’t going anywhere anytime soon if he has anything to say about it.

    That last qualifier is important.  His legal problems begin in earnest tomorrow, and they may be enough to make even the Republicans shun him.

  33. 33.

    Kent

    Got my covid vaccine appointment scheduled for next Wednesday.  Yeah!  I’m going to have to drive 2 hours to get it.  I’m with Kaiser Permanente and they just opened up scheduling for Tier 1b which includes teachers in Oregon and the only clinic in the state that still had available openings was the new Kaiser clinic in Eugene.  So road trip time.  Figured it was better to take the drive than wait another 2 weeks to find an opening in the Portland metro area.

  34. 34.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @debbie:

    He ain’t going anywhere anytime soon if he has anything to say about it.

    For the last 4 years, he’s been a princeling who has been able to do just about anything he wants while funneling tons of campaign and government cash into his businesses. Because he’s president, he’s been treated with respect and catered to, even by people who privately despise him. His businesses are in worse shape than they were when he ran for office. He has made a LOT of enemies. His allies are being punished for being associated with him. Most of the people who worship and adore him are people he feels are beneath him. He is obese, old, probably had a stroke not that long ago, and is losing access to some of the best healthcare in the world. Trump will be around for 10 years max, but likely half that.

  35. 35.

    cain

    @debbie:

    lol – I’m not listening to his farewell speech. I’ve already made my farewells. He can go fuck himself. If he thinks he’s going to hang around – goodluck with that – the courts are going to hound him.

    He’s going to watch as we take down his businesses and expose every fraud that he has ever committed.

    Also fuck Chuck Todd.

  37. 37.

    germy

    Less than a week after I filed a lawsuit against the @NYPDnews for using excessive force against peaceful protesters, last night we saw officers exhibit the same concerning behavior.

    As we laid out in our lawsuit, this is a longstanding pattern that must stop.

    — NY AG James (@NewYorkStateAG) January 19, 2021

    New Yorkers were marching in the spirit of Dr. King, who taught us that peaceful protest is the most powerful force in the fight for freedom, equality, and justice for all.

    I will continue to fight to protect this most basic right.

    — NY AG James (@NewYorkStateAG) January 19, 2021

  38. 38.

    Kent

    @Spinoza Is My Co-pilot:@cain: At some point I think there will be sufficient numbers of people who have either been infected and are ok or have been vaccinated (by far the highest number of the two, I hope) so that social life can return to some semblance of the Before Time. When concert-going can return is what I’m looking forward to most, outside chance this fall, more likely some time in ’22.

    When my kids lives get back to normal (in-person school and sports) and we can go eat out again indoors, I will be happy.  Everything else is gravy at this point.

  40. 40.

    germy

    So Snowden & Assange didn’t get a pardon?

    Glenn thinks the reason why Dems and what he calls their “allies” [!!!] impeached Trump was not because he attempted a coup, but to prevent Trump from doing the one thing Glenn wanted. pic.twitter.com/nakrNZD25j

    — Dr. emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 19, 2021

  41. 41.

    cain

    @Kent:

    Great to hear all the same. My ex-wife got hers already – she’s a dentist. She got the moderna one. I will wait patiently for mine probably in April or May. My other friend who works for Hillsboro already got hers too.

    I assume it will take about two months for everyone. I certainly hope they vaccinate the front line workers like grocery stores first.

  51. 51.

    Miss Bianca

    @HumboldtBlue: You know what – I’d *almost* feel sorry for him – but all Trump had to do to get the only people he gives a shit about to give a shit about him was to NOT BE A COMPLETE AND UTTER ASSHOLE. And since he’s constitutionally incapable of that, well…so sad, too bad.

  53. 53.

    hueyplong

    I’m totally ok with “fuck Chuck Todd” as a generalized sentiment, but did he do/say something specific today?

  54. 54.

    Ken

    @germy: Interesting. I would have thought one narcissist would be able to understand another, but on further thought realized not. They just keep interpreting the entire world in relationship to themselves.

  55. 55.

    Leto

    I know the car in the picture is located in VA, but I have a friend who’s being stationed at Guam and she sent us a listing of a few cars “available” there. Damned if that car doesn’t look a lot like many of the cars for sale. Ooof.

  56. 56.

    MisterForkbeard

    @germy: Greenwald’s doing his normal “I’m going to say something that has a kernel of truth”, which is that one of the reasons Dems impeached Trump WAS to keep him in line. But not to stop him from pardoning Assange and Snowden, neither of whom are super Trump friendly or Trump has shown any respect to.

    No, they wanted to keep him in line because he just tried to overthrow the government. This is not hard, Glenn.

  58. 58.

    HumboldtBlue

    @dmsilev:  @Chat Noir:  @debbie:  @Ksmiami:

    I will enjoy watching the Trumps become the real targets of real investigations while Biden works to restore some order and Obama starts showing up regularly as the respected and adored former prez willing to help Joe get his agenda implemented.

  59. 59.

    MisterForkbeard

    @hueyplong: He went out saying that if Biden couldn’t vaccinate 100 million people in the first 100 days, then his presidency is a failure.

    You know, ignoring that he made that promise before he found out how much Trump utterly fucked it up, and that Republicans are trying to sabotage him.

  61. 61.

    trollhattan

    @debbie:

    Republican obstructionism fits like a comfy old pair of shoes. “Obstruction Mode–Deploy!”

    [For the next 2-8 years.]

  65. 65.

    Ken

    @germy: Clemency applies only after conviction. They should have been asking for amnesty, which grants immunity from prosecution.

    Now, I got that from google, so a grain of salt is warranted.  But I would have thought that as legislators they would be aware of the difference.

  66. 66.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @cain: Not sure that he wouldn’t enjoy that. I don’t know how I want him spending his days, but I do know what I want the outcome to be. I want every one of his failed loser suck up idiot followers to finally come to the realization that they got conned. I want them to be miserable about that. I want them to be inconsolable. I want them to totally give up on ever voting again. I want them to sit in their basements, drooling and mumbling until they keel over – PLOP!

  67. 67.

    JMG

    @hueyplong: Said that if Biden didn’t get the country vaccinated PDQ, he’d be a failure as President. Guy’s not even on the job yet. Better realize that the Washington media elite desperately need Biden to fail. If he does a good job and is popular, the Bush 2-Obama-Trump-Biden progression will mean everyone will laugh at them when they “both sides.” They will be out to put Biden down from the start, or as we have seen, before the start.

  68. 68.

    ThresherK

    Does that Buick have the Deluxe VentiPort package, or just a lot of customized speed holes?

  71. 71.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Leto: Todd has occasionally gotten some self-awareness this year, but sadly he’s lost it all upon the excitement of shitting over a Dem administration and rediscovering the ‘standards’ he never applied to Republicans.

  81. 81.

    geg6

    @Kent:

    I just was notified that I’m 1b, too!  Apparently, financial aid and VA certifying officials at colleges are classified as 1b (along with faculty and other staffers, of course).  So, being that John is over 65 and I’m an education worker, I put both of us on the waitlist.  Can’t wait until they contact us!

  82. 82.

    Danielx

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Consistent to the end he is in this, if nothing else –

    unfair they are all against me unfair!

    He is a whiny little brat and can’t be gone soon enough.

  83. 83.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @germy: chuck todd, before biden is even sworn in… talking about his push for vaccines: “if biden doesn’t get it right, he will have failed in the job he was elected to do”

    i repeat: biden is not even sworn in yet

    Also, we found out (I think) 48 hours ago that the trump White House massively fucked up (or lied about, or sold off) the vaccine reserves and distribution.
    My sister doesn’t watch MSNBC, which she thinks would be bad for her stress levels, but she’s a twitter junkie (go figure folks) and she knew about “that fucker, from those shows you watch”, so hopefully Todd got some fierce blow back. Though if losing his show to Nicolle Wallace didn’t cause him some to reflect a little, I doubt there’s hope.

  84. 84.

    lowtechcyclist

    @debbie:

    NPR interviewed Rep. Don Bacon, R-Neb., a member of the alleged Problem Solvers Caucus, who is very concerned about the size of the proposed pandemic relief legislation. Same old, same old. “I’d rather wait a few months to see how what we’ve done has worked out” (paraphrasing).

    What a moron.  I’d love to ask him which risk he’d rather have, spend too little and possibly continue with this appallingly high Covid death rate, or get things under control as much and as quickly as possible, but perhaps overspend in doing so?

    As Dylan asked, how many deaths will it take ’til he knows that too many people have died?

  89. 89.

    Chetan Murthy

    @CarolDuhart2:

    it takes about a month-and even then I would wear a mask until the rest of the idiots get a vaccine too.

    It’s hard to figure these things out.  So I thought it might be to discuss when and for what reasons, to stop distancing/masking.  Here’s my take — when all the following are fulfilled:

    (1) you have the vaxx shots, and the full period has passed (typically, 2wk since second shot, 6wk since first)

    (2) AND community spread has stopped in your wider area.

    (3) and the case rate has dropped back down to where the public health authorities say that the pandemic is passed.

    Why these criteria?  Sure, so you won’t die (#1).  But the rest are about making sure that anybody who hasn’t got the vaccine, will continue to mask/distance.  If vaccinated people stop masking, some others who were doing out of social shaming will stop, too.  And that will lead to deaths.  Once community spread has stopped, once the case rate comes down, this means that the rest of the population who didn’t get vaccinated, or are immunocompromised, can’t catch the bug.  Also, the vaccines haven’t been tested on children, so they’re not even recommended for <16yo kids.  Another reason to wait until community spread stops.

    In a way, this is a really, really easy test.  Just wait until, basically, the case rate plummets.  When we’re back to case rates like this past summer, and the vast majority of the population is vaccinated, we can start taking off our masks.

     

    That’s certainly what I plan to do.

  91. 91.

    EmanG

    I hope his last months are spent like the guy in Bonfire of the Vanities. A professional defendent.

  92. 92.

    Fair Economist

    @Spinoza Is My Co-pilot: I think normalcy won’t return until everybody has had a *second* vaccination, for the new higher-transmission strain, probably toward the end of 2022. Even then we will be in a nastier world than before – there are too many nutjobs to eradicate, and even people who’ve had it can catch it again and die. We will have to maintain a higher level of precautions than we did in the Before Times. Some things are probably gone forever, like open buffets.

    Things will ease up some towards the late spring but we will still need to be masking and outdoorsing. We might be able to run schools again if we can get improved ventilation and have students eat outside/at home/separated.

  95. 95.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @germy:

    Have made the mistake of diving into Greenwald’s feed tonight. The only good person on the left is the person who facilitates the messages of white supremacy.

    Everyone else is a neoliberal corporatist.

  97. 97.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @MisterForkbeard:

    If a murderous right wing cabal snapped up every mechanism of the US government and started executing POC, Latino men and women, liberals, Jews  and LGBTQ folks while a resistance government in exile were formed, Glenn would criticize the resistance government in exile because of too many corporatist neoliberals being instrumental in its establishment.

    It is what he does.

    I stand by my previously stated wishes regarding Greenwald and his fate at the hands of the Bolsonaro government.

  98. 98.

    Bill Arnold

    @Chetan Murthy:
    It’s still an open question whether or not the mRNA (Moderna, Pfizer ) vaccines are “sterilizing” and will block transmission.
    The clinical trials measured only symptomatic cases, and noted an almost complete absence of severe cases as a side effect. The bet is that they will block transmission, but there is concern that the nasal epithelium might not get enough of the antibodies, and that that’s from where the virus mostly spreads. (From memory. As penance I’ll find primary sources.)
    Until this is clear (it will be studied through contact tracing), it would be good to continue to wear masks as “source control” blocking forward-facing unfiltered exhalations.

  101. 101.

    HumboldtBlue

    @debbie:

    It’s an absurd paper Gruppenfuhrer Miller put together full of as many racist and stupid tropes as you can imagine.

    but Dipshit Bingo is a keeper!

    Yeah, that’s a helluva line.

  102. 102.

    Bill Arnold

    @Starboard Tack:

    I’d think that would be the same question for any COVID-19 vaccine.

    Probably, since the vasculature delivering antibodies will be common to all (human) vaccine recipients. The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are remarkably effective, so less effective vaccines might have more trouble (with spread by vaccinated people) if this is indeed an issue.
    But we don’t know yet. I’m an optimist and am betting that they will block transmission. (And will wear a good mask until this is clear.)

  103. 103.

    Chetan Murthy

    @Bill Arnold:

    it would be good to continue to wear masks as “source control” blocking forward-facing unfiltered exhalations.

    Bill, you’re adding another good reason.  I didn’t mention this because, to me, it should already be enough, that by wearing a mask I show others that they also need to wear masks.  Until the outbreak in my area is *actually* suppressed -and- I have a vaccination, that’s what I’ll do.  There’s ample evidence that people wearing masks causes -others- to do so as well.  And that’s good enough for me.  But you’re *absolutely* right to add that another reason to wear a mask, is that we don’t *actually* know that being inoculated means we can’t infect others.

  104. 104.

    Bill Arnold

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Gruppenfuhrer Miller

    That guy managed to hold out for the whole presidency, which is impressive for a Trump servant.
    But his job did not (OK will not) survive Trump’s loss of power.
    Trump was the keystone for some of these other guys, like Miller and Pompeo and Bernhardt and Navarro, and some less known; knock out the keystone and they fall too.

  105. 105.

    Ohio Mom

    Pennsylvanian @11:

    It was Lily Tomlin who said, “No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.”

  107. 107.

    jnfr

    Thanks everyone for being around for these terrible years. It helps to know others are out there dealing with it all, too.

  109. 109.

    Fair Economist

    @Bill Arnold: It’s not established whether the vaccines are sterilizing, but a British study of regularly tested healthcare workers found that those who had COVID antibodies, indicating they’d had COVID, had a 3/4 reduction in catching SARS2, and a 7/8 reduction in symptomatic disease. Certainly much better, but not sterilizing. I think it’s unlikely that any vaccine will be more effective at producing immunity than an actual infection, so it’s very unlikely any will be fully sterilizing.

  110. 110.

    Barbara

    @Bill Arnold: I think an Israeli study has yielded some promising data regarding this subject, but most agree that it’s something that needs to be studied much more thoroughly.

  112. 112.

    LeftCoastYankee

    @Kent:

    That’s great news.  It’s good to know there are folks beyond healthcare getting vaccinated in this area.

    My doctor’s office (in Portland) called me to set up a physical, and I told them I’d come in when I can get the first shot.  No appointment at this time.

  113. 113.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Anya: from that self-same paper just yesterday

    WASHINGTON — The time has finally come for President Trump to find a permanent space at Mar-a-Lago for his $50,000 room-size golf simulator, not to mention the 60-inch television he proudly displayed above the dining room table, his collection of Brioni suits and the first lady’s matching Louis Vuitton luggage she has hauled around the globe.

    I’m a political junkie. I know more about trump than I want to know, thanks to Mary Trump, Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniels and a few others. Four years and I didn’t know about the $50K room-size golf simulator in the White House. And that doesn’t include the live rounds played at great tax-payer expense.

    Joe Biden isn’t President yet and I already know he has an expensive (but not really, considering) stationary bike, which given his age and income and position, is probably a sensible and practical choice. Is he supposed to join Planet Fitness? sit in a chair and watch too much TV? oh, wait, that last one is me….

  114. 114.

    LeftCoastYankee

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I watched MSNBC on 1/7 after the Traitor Party, and Chuck Todd was so flippant, and even managed to throw some vague hippy-punches (“mumble mumble something something not what progressives want”), he left Andrea Mitchell slack jawed and stuttering.

    He’s in his own world where Chuck Todd is the Lollipop King.  He clearly doesn’t have anyone sensible who cares for him in his life who could say “dude, shut up and listen.”

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    @NotMax:

    That looks like some heavy hail.

    Also I doubt that all the hail mary’s in the world would be enough if one were in that car when the storm hit.

  116. 116.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Rachel Maddow just said that the latest gossip is that trump is talking about forming a third party, the “patriot” party

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    @dmsilev:

    Well he is the best human being on the planet. Just ask him…

    Narcissism isn’t a good thing, but with his level of intelligence – low, and his level of narcissism (the only thing he has a completely full account of) being overwhelming, he has the massive inability to see/understand any fault, discrepancy, personal failure, no matter how bad it gets.

  118. 118.

    Miss Bianca

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Patriot Parties” have been forming all over the place here in rural CO. The Chaffee County Patriots have over 500 members, from what I’ve heard from reliable sources, and they sound batshit AF. I have no doubt it’s happening in my county as well.

  119. 119.

    Marcopolo

    Rachel Maddow just thoroughly slagged Trump & his record & the best part was seeing her truly enjoying herself while doing it. It was a beautiful thing.

  120. 120.

    Ruckus

    @artem1s:

    Bought an 8 yr old cargo van with 130 miles showing on the clock in 2006. A base stripper – 2 seats, that’s it, I think it had been used as a fish delivery van. I didn’t know that when I bought it but about a month later it started to reek. I took the seats out and cleaned every sq in with clorox cleaner/bleach. Good for another month, when it started to reek once again. Same complete cleaning and it was finally OK. Paid 3K for it, drove it 9 yrs, traded it in for an actual car, got $2500 in trade. If it hadn’t been for the gas milage, or rather lack of milage – 10-11mpg, it would have been the cheapest vehicle I’ve ever owned.

  123. 123.

    Nobody in particular

    All that car needs is a little Bondo. The Republic is going to take a little more work under the hood, John.

  125. 125.

    Nobody in particular

    @NotMax:

     

    You mean the actual Republicans? Not the GOP?

    Benjamin Franklin wrote the first Love it or Leave it letter.

     

    https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/v1ch16s12.html

     

    The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so. I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it, the People’s Money out of their Pockets, tho’ only to pay the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the People, is their Creditors’ Money, and no longer the Money of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell’d to pay by some Law.

    All Property, indeed, except the Savage’s temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.

  127. 127.

    Tim C.

    Didn’t want to put this in the respite thread above but…

     

    It’s 9:35 Eastern,  why haven’t the pardons dropped yet?

    Are they so awful they are trying to push them out at the very last second?

    Are they trying to convince him again that you can’t issue pardons to himself or family or GOP lawmakers who helped the rioters without him facing senate conviction?

    What’s up?

  129. 129.

    Miss Bianca

    @Tim C.: Actually, even tho’ it is a respite thread, Barbara @132 one over addresses this pardon point pretty succinctly.

  132. 132.

    artem1s

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Rachel Maddow just said that the latest gossip is that trump is talking about forming a third party, the “patriot” party

    oh man, that sounds about right.  let the never ending grift begin.  the whirlwind may be finally catching up to the GOP

  133. 133.

    sdhays

    I think I’ve found the basis for the left-wing Q: “PP-anon”.

    Patriot Party -> P. P. -> pee pee -> THE PEE PEE TAPE IS REAL, YOU GUYS!!11!!!

    Somehow, I think we’ll avoid engaging in any “light treason” over this.

  134. 134.

    Ruff the Dog

    Now when DJT says: “Daddy wants to huff Ivanka’s white cotton panties” I don’t care.

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