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Late Night Open Thread: Kyle Rittenhouse, in the Wind

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We can assume the big soft gowk hasn’t (yet) been left dead in a dumpster behind the widget factory, or the Wingnut Wurlitzer would be humping his corpse around every available media platform, lamenting the wickedness of Antifa and the violence inherent in the system. And because neither he nor his loving mom seem smart enough or rich enough to escape successfully on their own, presumably there’s a group of better-equipped sympathizers who could drop in on him (drop him in), if necessary. The donors who put up two million dollars in bail aren’t gonna see that money back under any circumstances, and the ones doing it for the publicity (I think the MyPillow guy? and Black Rifle Coffee?), at least, can afford it.

So this particularly egregious parole violation is presumably some kind of performance art — but what’s the value in pissing off the people with the power to throw Rittenhouse in jail “pre-trial”?…

Prosecutors seeking to increase Kyle Rittenhouse’s $2 million bond said Thursday that the ability of the Kenosha, Wisc., shooter to “roam freely” before trial is “extremely rare for an accused murderer” and argued his address should be made public. But his defense attorneys argue that housing Rittenhouse in a secret safe house is necessary to protect his life.

Their legal dispute, focusing on whether Rittenhouse violated his bond by not properly disclosing his address, marked the latest flash point in the high-profile case, which has some assailing Rittenhouse as a dangerous vigilante and others defending him as a hero…

Thomas C. Binger, an assistant district attorney, wrote in a filing that a court clerk mailed Rittenhouse a notice there in late December but that it “was returned unclaimed” in late January.

On Tuesday, Binger wrote, two Kenosha detectives went to the home and spoke to a man who said he had lived at the address since mid-December. Binger also wrote that Rittenhouse signed a bond in January with the Antioch address and had failed to give a new address to the court…

Rittenhouse’s attorneys argued that his address needs to be shielded from public view for his safety. Mark D. Richards, one of the attorneys, wrote that Rittenhouse has faced a volley of “death and other threats,” forcing his family to move to “an undisclosed ‘Safe House.’ ”

Richards, who did not respond to requests for comment, has not denied in court filings that Rittenhouse failed to alert the court to his new address until the issue spilled out into public view. He instead cited threats and said his client has remained in constant touch with his attorneys throughout the process…

Rittenhouse is facing serious consequences if convicted, but he is also fortunate to be able to remain free pending trial, said Dean Strang, a law professor at Loyola University in Chicago who has been a criminal defense attorney in Wisconsin for 30 years.

“That’s not because the D.A. did something different or the judge did something different here,” he said. “It’s because he happens to be a cause celebre for people who are willing to support him financially. I would hope any client of mine . . . would do what he could to not imperil his position.”

Before the dispute over his address, Rittenhouse was criticized by prosecutors who said he was photographed at a Wisconsin bar posing for photos with members of the Proud Boys, a far-right group with a history of violence…

Not much fun being last year’s right-wing celebrity, especially since the Proud Boys are having their own legal issues right now, but presumably young Rittenhouse would still prefer to be hiding out in a safe house with Mom to being — you know — in jail…

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  1. 1.

    aliasofwestgate

    They just need to revoke his bail, outright and keep him behind bars. This is the 2nd time shenanigans have happened and hell. The first bar trip would have had me locked behind bars and revoked. Then again. I’m brown, so the chances of me even making bail would have been nil.

    Little shit needs the book thrown at him. I remain pissy as hell about the Kenosha PD treating him with kid gloves. -_-x

  2. 2.

    cain

    So let me get this straight, they someone else’s address without their consent? So wouldn’t that mean that if this man is imperiled then the person at this address would also be imperiled? I think this is bullshit. The person at that address should sue given that this act put them in danger.

    ETA – OMG, two times in a row today. Jeezus, I don’t even know what to do with this good luck. I’m going to play the lottery, bet on a horse race. I AM WINNING!

  3. 3.

    piratedan

    anyone else getting tired of the pattern of these folks believing that the laws only apply to “these people” when THEY want them to be applied? I grew up being instilled with the belief that you followed the law and if/when you broke it, you were in a world of potential hurt because all people were supposed to be equal under the eyes of the law. If our nation ever wants to earn back that once held dearly belief, then it best be rectifying this shit damn fast because otherwise people are going to start looking behind the curtain to see just what the great and powerful Oz looks like.

  10. 10.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax: They are not “bad films.”  They’re underappreciated due to their absolute wretchedness.​
     

    ETA – I’ve never seen that movie, but it was brought to my attention a few years back.

  19. 19.

    JWR

    Reading down through Derrick Rose’s twitter thread, I saw this post and read the murderer’s old address, 286 Anita Terrace, as 286 “Antifa” Terrace, which makes sense, considering that he’s really a Deep Antifa operative.​
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  22. 22.

    NotMax

    @Martin

    From November.

    …Rittenhouse‘s attorney Lin Wood announced his client’s release on $2-million bail — and [actor Rick] Schroder and MyPillow founder Mike Lindell’s involvement — in a tweet. Close to $600,000 was also raised for Rittenhouse’s defense via a Christian fundraising site, GiveSendGo.… source

  27. 27.

    Barbara

    So in the face of death threats they used someone else’s address. And then Rittenhouse was seen out and about, manifestly not hiding.

    I still don’t understand whether his attorney knows where he is but won’t disclose his location or whether he has disappeared.

  28. 28.

    Ken

    We can assume the big soft gowk hasn’t (yet) been left dead in a dumpster

    @JWR: he’s really a Deep Antifa operative.

    You joke (probably…) but if he is killed, it’s far more likely to be someone on the right who thinks he is Antifa, or who wants to create a cause célèbre.  Except “Kyle Rittenhouse” doesn’t have a decent rhythm like “Horst Wessel”.

  35. 35.

    Emperor Lew

    Let me get this straight… the DA basically said he was open to the idea of sealing the address if specific proof of the threats was provided.  If threats really were received, it seems an easy hurdle to clear.  Our friend Kyle is either lying about the threats or lazy.  Neither is a good look!

  36. 36.

    Edmund Dantes

    Some confusion. They didn’t give out random person’s address. They rented out the place he used to live at to some random dude but just kept putting that as Kyle’s address.

    So if they were so afraid of death threats they didn’t give a fuck about the guy they were renting Kyle’s old place to.

    It’s a small nuance but it’s different than just picking some random address. They didn’t want the DA to know which a fake address would have given away or giving an address different than one Kyle used to live at most recently.

    doesn’t matter though. Cause his bail could have been revoked with the bar hopping and other stuff. This should have sealed the deal. But they are asking for 200K more instead.  I hope he at least gets an ankle monitor if they aren’t going to revoke.

  41. 41.

    Barbara

    @Edmund Dantes: ​That was my point. Whether they rented it out or not, they claimed that their client was receiving death threats and then listed an address where another, unsuspecting person lived who might have been on the receiving end of those threats. That’s a pretty shitty thing to do.

    Then, rather inconsistent with the idea that your client is afraid of what happens when people know where he is, he is filmed and photographed being out and about at a specific place where, ostensibly, one might find him on a recurring basis.

    Then, when confronted with your own duplicity, you blame the Kenosha police who, even if they told you to do something as boneheaded as lying in an official court document, you don’t really have a right to listen to as the final authority when you and/or your client have signed a document attesting to the conditions of bail, one of which is making sure a current valid address is on file.

    In no case, ever, do you withhold a valid current address for your client from the court.

  42. 42.

    J R in WV

    I seems as if all these folks believe deep down that the law just doesn’t apply to them in any way, shape, or form. They can break into a secure federal facility by violence, in a mob, NO PROBLEMS!!!

    They can beat cops to death and just leave for home or even a Mexican vacation, no problem!

    They can shoot some unarmed peaceful demonstrators, walk out with the murder weapon past all the cops, meet mom and drive back to Illinois for a good night’s sleep. No Problem! Then, after they have been arrested, get released on bail and go out partying with mom buying the drinks, which is legal even though they aren’t of age to be drinking out in a bar…

    It beggars the imagination, it does!

  44. 44.

    Chris Johnson

    @J R in WV: If we live in a lawless society, they are right.

     

    I’m hoping they’re wrong. I’ll settle for them being wrong about THEIR outcomes, even if we still live in far too lawless a society. (law is only for the poors, to be used in any sort of arbitrary fashion by their betters. That’s lawless)

  45. 45.

    Ruckus

    @J R in WV: 
    It is the land of the free, isn’t it?

    It’s just that what the word freedom means to normal people isn’t the same as it means to haters/racists/bigots/murderers.

    I would also think that breaking the law might not bode well on the lawyers condoning/being accomplices to said crime.

  46. 46.

    Death Panel Truck

    Rittenhouse has faced a volley of “death and other threats,” forcing his family to move to “an undisclosed ‘Safe House”

    Should have thought of that before he murdered two people in cold blood. Asshole.

  47. 47.

    PaulWartenberg

    The lawyers failed to report his movements for a full month. They are aiding a fugitive from the law, that’s a state AND federal crime, and they should be charged and held without bail themselves.

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