Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Innocent people don’t delay justice.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

As long as McCarthy is Speaker, the House will never be in order.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

Cole is on a roll !

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Fani Willis claps back at Trump chihuahua, Jim Jordan.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Everybody saw this coming.

People are complicated. Love is not.

The words do not have to be perfect.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

You are here: Home / Open Threads / Gina Carano Wasn’t Fucking Cancelled, She Self-Immolated

Gina Carano Wasn’t Fucking Cancelled, She Self-Immolated

by | 98 Comments

This post is in: ,

This is such nonsense:

Less than 24 hours after her explosive ouster from Star Wars series The Mandalorian for incendiary social media posts, Gina Carano has hit back at her detractors and revealed a new movie project she is making with conservative website The Daily Wire.

Carano told us today: “The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered. I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same. They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them.”

She wasn’t cancelled. She was fired after repeatedly being told to knock off the crap. She didn’t. She was then fired. And now will receive tons of wingnut welfare money. And she is still free to voice whatever CTE induced toxic bullshit she has in her arsenal.

It’s really this simple- all she had to do to make 20k per episode or whatever she made was to a.) show up for work and b.) not be an edgelord prick on twitter. I think I could handle doing that for 200k per year. I already do it for far less.

Reader Interactions

98Comments

  1. 1.

    Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix

  4. 4.

    MattF

    Carano was not so bad in her Mandalorian part, IMO. Has a sort of big-girl physical grace. I didn’t know she’s a RWNJ, which spoils it.

  6. 6.

    germy

    the wave of anti-anti-Carano concern-trolling isn't about protecting conservative speech but about normalizing QAnon, a barely revamped Blood Libel fantasy with dictatorship and mass executions as its goal, as an acceptable conservative belief.

    — Zeddy (@Zeddary) February 12, 2021

  8. 8.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    Jeez what a snowflake.  She posted inflammatory and hateful things in public after several warnings from her employer. Her contract probably states she can be fired if she posts stuff that damages their “brand”   She is stupid if she did not take warnings seriously.  I have seen friends fired for less.

  9. 9.

    patrick II

    Gina starred in a nice, tough little spy movie in 2011 called “Haywire”, directed by Steven Soderbergh and with Michael Douglas, Channing Tatum, Antonio Banderas, Ewan MacGregor, Michael Fassbinder, and Bill Paxton.  That movie was loaded.  She did a good job, her fighting skills were excellent, but she was pretty unknown and I have always wondered how she got that movie made with all of that star power.

  10. 10.

    Keith P.

    Tons of money? We’ll see…she was working for Disney on the hottest Star Wars product. She’s one flop away from being an analyst for Bellator.

  12. 12.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    I can think of a few people I’d like to see replaced her, in no particular order:

    Danai Gurira, who kicked ass in Black Panther and would realize Patton Oswalt’s Parks and Rec filibuster fantasy of linking the Marvel and Star Wars cinematic universes.

    Frankie Addams kicks ass as Bobbie in The Expanse. She seems all kinds of right for the part.

    I haven’t seen her do too much in the way of combat type stuff but Dominique Tipper from The Expanse seems like a good fit for the role acting-ability wise – capable of humor and drama and she seems fit enough to handle the action scenes.

    Sara Tomko has been pretty good on Resident Alien.

    Then there’s Sydelle Noel from GLOW who also seems like she could pull off the role.

    Lots of fans want to see Lucy Lawless in the role and she’s great (and also was on several episodes of Parks and Rec). She seems like maybe she’s too old for the role though?

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them.

    “You may hear my movie is really shitty, but if you pay for it and never watch it, somewhere a soy boy lib will cry!”. I’ll admit, there must be 7 or 8 hard back books scattered around my house that I spite-bought back in the aughts cause I hated Bush. I even bought Kitty Kelly’s book, but it was frankly pretty boring and thinly-sourced and I bailed before page 100.

    I never heard of this woman and I’m only vaguely aware of the show, but my understanding is she compared being a conservative today to being a Jew in Weimar Germany? I’m okay with her being fired.

  16. 16.

    CarolDuhart2

    Movie of my own.. with Ben Shapiro.  And the five people who will actually pay to see it.  From sublime to absurd.  Just think, maybe if you had kept your mouth shut, or were less bigoted, you might have been the female answer to Schwartzenegger and Segal.  Now you will make Christian movies for Dollar Store money and be forgotten quickly enough.  Rosanne had a big career and even a 10 year old series.  Showed her MAGA ass…and now she just lives on her nut farm in Hawaii.

  17. 17.

    Anya

    It’s interesting how no one writes about cancel culture when someone on the left or a POC is fired. It’s only brought up when a right-winger with abhorrent views gets some well-deserved consequences. But the most interesting part about all of this is that mainstream media as well as conservatives have all accepted that bigotry of any form is conservatism. No one fired these people for screaming about how Biden is a socialist who’ll come for your gun and force marry your daughters to members of Antifa or Black Panther but they face consequences when they something that is incredibly racist, homophobic or antisemitic and they scream about how conservatives are being cancelled.

  18. 18.

    catclub

    I cried out and my prayer was answered.

    catnip writing your own psalms for the ignorant god botherers.

    Ignorant because she cried out and was rescued by .. some rightwing corporation? not God.

  19. 19.

    Gravenstone

    @Elizabelle:  Had a co-worker ask me yesterday what did Cancel Culture mean? After gathering my thoughts for a moment, I ended up summarizing as ” basically a bunch of privileged assholes whining about having to face consequences for continuing to do things that are no longer accepted in society”. That seemed to satisfy the question.

  20. 20.

    BruceFromOhio

    I cried out and my prayer was answered.

    So was mine: you got your ass kicked the to the curb to go make low-budget conserva-porn flix for imbeciles. See you on a Paid Program slot on OANN sometime!

    Win-win.

  22. 22.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes it’s a Star War and there is a baby Yoda in it. Some of us dorks think pretty highly of the show. I hadn’t heard anything about her politics but she was pretty good in the role she was cast in. Definitely not irreplaceably good, but pretty good.

  23. 23.

    Elizabelle

    From a previous Deadline link:

    The actress shared a TikTok post comparing the current divided political climate in the U.S. to Nazi Germany.

    “Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,” she wrote.

    It is beyond Gina’s intelligence to realize that she and her side are the Nazi wannabes, and let’s go there. What else is the whole rightwing mediasphere other the ugly, divisive propaganda that destroyed Germany?  That spews out lies upon lies to make its audience hate “the other”?  To make the nation ungovernable.

    Have never watched The Mandalorian or had heard of Ms. Carano, but all she had to do was keep her rightwing politics to herself and she had the possibility of starring in a Disney spinoff series.

    But that was too much for this one.  No sympathy.

  24. 24.

    CarolDuhart2

    @Anya: Because the world is different.  Open bigotry looks bad to a growing number of Americans, to the now international market that U.S. showbiz now caters to.  Not only does it look nasty, it also scans as ignorant and retrograde too.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    @CarolDuhart2:   I think maybe stupid behavior like this might come to be called “pulling a Gina Carano.”

    “You really want to cast her?  She might pull a Gina Carano.”

  27. 27.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Robert Duval is, according to some reports, a full-on right-winger, I don’t know how far gone he is, and he’s one of my favorite actors. Kind of glad he is, it seems, too old and/or too private to comment on politics.

    Also, no offense intended, more mocking my own out-of-touchness. I’ve heard good things about the post-Jar Jar SW universe, but all the different movies, with apparently jumping timelines, came out too fast for me and I wouldn’t know where to begin getting back into it (I’ve never seen one without Alec Guiness). As to  my hipness cred: I actually like those X-Men movies, especially the third one, which I gather makes me the biggest loser in dork world.

  28. 28.

    CraigM

    I thought she was not fired, they merely didn’t give her a contract for the new season.

    In the real world, people’s contractual arrangements affect their conduct, unless the big, bad state is intervening to protect the conduct. Until the last 5 years, most people didn’t have an alternative to their cable company and the cable people showed up at the customers house whenever the fuck they felt like it. The amazon delivery person mentions that there’s dog poop on the sidewalk, it gets cleaned up, because they have the practical bargaining power in that situation because I like my packages placed out of sight near my door. However, if the pizza delivery person swears within earshot of my neighbor’s dog, I order pizza from somewhere else next time.

    Ms Carano is the pizza delivery dude.

  29. 29.

    The Moar You Know

    She got the golden ticket; she was on the Disney train.  Made woman.  Set for life.  Tens of thousands with a lot more talent than she will ever have go gunning for that every year and wash out.

    She threw it away for this?

    Fuck, people are stupid.

    And now will receive tons of wingnut welfare money.

    Not her.  Female and not nearly a big enough name.  As CarolDuhart2 above notes, she’ll be making “Christian movies for Dollar Store money and be forgotten quickly enough”.

  30. 30.

    catclub

    @CarolDuhart2: ​
     

    Not only does it look nasty, it also scans as ignorant and retrograde too.

    Ignorant? Didn’t you just see the Brazilian Coronavirus/vaccine mascot?

  34. 34.

    df

    Conservatives: “Your employer should be able to fire you at any time for any reason.
    …
    Conservatives: “No, not like that.”

  35. 35.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Honestly, just go watch Rogue One as it takes place right before the original Star Wars movie.

    And then move on to watch The Mandalorian series. Neither require watching anything other than the original trilogy, and are two of the highest points of the franchise.

  38. 38.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @catclub: always “forgot” his wallet. Died owing me seven dollars.

    Speaking of the original Star Wars: Eric Idle wrote a very fun memoir in which he drops names on virtually every page without being obnoxious– that’s just his life. He tells the story of a party he gave when the Rolling Stones dropped by unexpectedly, along with Carrie Fisher, whom he knew through Dan Ackroyd, and a couple of guys who were working on a movie with her in London. He said when he saw the movie he knew which scenes they filmed the next day because Fisher, Hamill and Ford were visibly hungover. Made me want to re-watch the movie to see if I could spot them.

  39. 39.

    Elizabelle

    It’s sad to have that level of opportunity, and throw it away out of stupidity and spitefulness.

  45. 45.

    Woodrow/asim

    I’m tangentially connected to the Star Wars ‘verse, weirdly — and specifically, to the camtono device that shows up in THE MALADORIAN. “Ice Cream Guy,” from EMPIRE? The fella in the orange jumpsuit that pops on screen for like a second, carrying one of those thingies?

    …yeah, it’s OK if you don’t recall ’em, I promise. :)

    Anyway: He’s named, in fandom, after me. The college pal who did it didn’t see me for over a decade, and by the time I found out, the character actually got popular in fandom, thus the call-out in the show.

    Talk about surreal.

    (Mind you, I still haven’t seen the show…)

  46. 46.

    Medicine Man

    I had this whole “cancel culture” conversation with my brother yesterday. He’s super butthurt about the dynamic, focused mostly on the toxic social media behavior angle of the issue, projecting himself into the shoes of the “cancelled”, low key buying into the victim status of Carano, etc etc. Frustrating.

    I’m workshopping responses at the moment. I’m finding the personal responsibility counter argument is the most effective, so far.

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @PJ: clicking through that I see Chait is still clinging to the idea that this person is a victim because the anti-semitism she promoted is too subtle for her to have understood?

    Chait writes a lot of stuff I like, but somebody at NYMag needs to tell him that he doesn’t need to fight every “illiberal left!” fight that comes through his feed.

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    @CraigM: She was supposed to, according to reporting, continue to recur on the Mandalorian as appropriate for the plot/story and to also recur as a regular character on at least one of the other Star Wars series for Disney+ that is in pre-production/production. So while they didn’t renew her between seasons, this is, essentially, a termination.

  51. 51.

    cokane

    she apparently literally posted anti-semitic cartoons of wealthy jewish folks running the world — represented as playing a board game. the absolute best defense you could argue is that she didn’t realize it was anti-semitic. But even if that were true, it still seems perfectly reasonable for Disney to fire her.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Ken: I’m not the biggest Star Wars fan, so I’m the wrong person to ask. And that’s largely because I’m not a big George Lucas fan.

  53. 53.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @MisterForkbeard: I was going to advise exactly this. Rogue One was the best Star Wars movie since The Empire Strikes Back, or maybe Return of the Jedi. The Mandalorian is equally as good.

  55. 55.

    Ken

    @Woodrow/asim: Cool that he’s named after you, but I hope that Disney still lets you use your own name?

    I don’t offhand remember ice cream guy, but from what I understand, fandom has invented a detailed backstory for every character in the original trilogy that has more than two frames onscreen.

  56. 56.

    Adam L Silverman

    One of the other things that is not getting a lot of discussion in all of this is that Pedro Pascal’s sister is trans. Apparently, from reporting I’ve seen, he spent a lot of time trying to patiently explain to her why her anti-Trans and anti-LGBTQ statements and trolling on social media was problematic, wrong, and hurtful and it didn’t stick. So if the choice is between the headliner for your series and a recurring actress who is saying, tweeting, posting, and doing things that are pissing him off because they target his sister among others, there really is no choice who gets fired.

  58. 58.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Ken: They probably are connected that way somehow. I just wanted to plug Patton Oswalt’s hilarious monologue from that episode of Parks and Rec to be honest.

  59. 59.

    CarolDuhart2

    @catclub: Not for international consumption.  You will never see it on an export, or in a movie or stuffed animals on Ebay.  And being such a limited character, will probably vanish in a few weeks.

  60. 60.

    Roger Moore

    @Anonymous:

    Yeah, that really got me.  First she posts exactly the kind of anti-Semitic crap the Nazis used to inflame the public against Jews, then she compares herself to Jews in Nazi Germany.  You can’t have it both ways.

  61. 61.

    Feckless

    @MattF:  I was so excited to see a non skinny blonde Barbie woman in a important role being beautiful and powerful in the mandalorian …….but it turns out she’s a damn Nazi.

  62. 62.

    bmoak

    I’ve never seen the Madalorian, but all the big alt-right trash Star Wars/nerd culture YouTubers that are shrieking about Gina Carano being canceled were pretty much unanimous hating on Gina and her character when she first appeared, calling her character SJW trash, and a symbol of “woke” Star Wars, hoping the series would be canceled, and calling Carano herself an ugly, muscle-bound freak.

    Her social media posts later made her favorite among this crowd.

  64. 64.

    Leto

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:  As season 2 was kicking off, I’d heard about her TERF views and it altered how I viewed her after that. The fact she’s a Qnut doesn’t surprise me at all, and the fact she can’t keep her trap shut is indicative of her prior profession. Re-cast her role. There’s plenty of amazing women out there who can play the tough woman character.

  65. 65.

    chopper

    oh, she has some bullshit film deal now with a RW hack site? yeah, that’ll replace all the easy-ass fame and money she woulda had if she kept the bullshit under wraps. i mean, the SW universe is a goddamn gravy train. she was even gonna get her own show!

  67. 67.

    SFBayAreaGal

    Her character in The Mandolorian was written for her to play. She also was going to be starring in a spinoff from The Mandolorian series.

  68. 68.

    Roger Moore

    @Leto:

    Re-cast her role.

    You don’t really even need to recast her. She isn’t important enough that you can’t just write her out of the story.  Even if they have an episode or two in mind where she would have been important, they can easily enough write a new character who would fill a similar role.

  69. 69.

    Leto

    @MisterForkbeard: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: agree with SeniorForkbeard here. Watch Rogue One (an immediate prequel to A New Hope), then the original trilogy, then follow it with The Mandolorian. Mando takes place about 3 years after the end of Return of the Jedi. Mando is more spaghetti western with a lot better writing. Each episode is it’s own little nugget (very good) but there’s an overarching theme/story to it all.

  70. 70.

    RSA

    @germy:

    It’s maddening — the people who whine about “cancel culture” all day long never, ever give a shit about the dishwashers and warehouse workers who get canned every day because the boss doesn’t like their “attitude.”

    In the abstract, I’m not happy with the way employers have so much control over what employees do and say in their off-hours, but I also keep in mind that this is theoretically the way conservatives want things to be. Carano is working at will, and her supporters would be happier with fewer rather than more protection for workers.

  71. 71.

    Leto

    @Roger Moore: she’s the fall back strong person you call in case of emergency. Not trying to spoil, but they could send her back to where Mando asked for her help and that would be just fine. There’s new characters (hello Katee Sackhoff!) who can fill that roll just fine, though Mando probably needs a new battle buddy who doesn’t want his current job. Plus having a platonic badass female battle buddy is a cool thing (imo).

  73. 73.

    Roger Moore

    @Leto:

    I think we’re more or less in agreement. She’s a fun character, but she’s not central to the story. I’m sure the writers would be happier if she hadn’t set her career in fire, but any halfway decent writer could replace her and only people who knew why she was replaced would think anything of it.

  74. 74.

    Leto

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Johnny Gentle (famous crooner): THE FILMING WAS A NON-STOP PARTY

    During the filming of Empire Strikes Back, it was nothing but revelry on-set, with drinking, drugs, and celebrities ranging from the Rolling Stones to Monty Python.

    While shooting went on in London, Carrie Fisher rented Python trooper Eric Idle’s home, and he seems to have been quite the host. One night, while partying with the Rolling Stones and Idle, Idle made her and Harrison Ford a drink he called the “Tunisian Death Special” which had been used to make extras from a Monty Python film in Tunisia more compliant. For something as wacky as Python, that drink and what it did actually sounds like something out of a horror movie. Neither Ford nor Fisher slept that night, and the drink’s effects were still affecting them when they went onto the Bespin Mining Station set that morning.

    “I remember that we never went to sleep, so we weren’t hungover—we were still drunk when we arrived in Cloud City the next day. We don’t really smile a lot in the movie, but there, we’re smiling.” Fisher later related. In addition to drinking like high schoolers who just cracked their parents’ liquor cabinet, Fisher admitted to doing cocaine on the set, which made the filming even less of a chore, especially when on location: “Location means like everything is permitted. I went without being needed to Norway [on Empire]—that’s how much fun I was having. I was upset that I didn’t get to go to Tunisia for the first one. But I had a good time on the movies.” So there you have it: in the era of DARE, your childhood heroes were doing blow with the Rolling Stones.

  76. 76.

    Leto

    @Roger Moore: we are! Yeah, I’m sure the entire production wishes she hadn’t done that but they’re really good writers so I’m sure she’s off enjoying her backwater planet career.

  80. 80.

    leeleeFL

    @catclub: Thanx ever so much!  I laughed out loud for the first time today!  And I needed it!  My a/c is crapping out and my workplace shut down for 4 days due to COVID!  It’s Valentine’s Day weekend, we were supposed to be busy.  Guess I should be glad they decided not to have a super spreader event!  I can afford it, but seriously, tired of this shit!

  81. 81.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Leto: There’s been a few suggestions of already canon characters they could use to replace her if they just didn’t want to create a new one.

    In the comics/book/games there’s no shortage of awesome and independent female characters. It would be nice if they got another large and built-out woman, but not necessary.

    But I’m sad about this, because while she was a bad actress her character was fine and she was very clearly someone whom Mando would go to for help, because he does that.

  86. 86.

    kindness

    Meh.  Wingnuts will give her money, give her a (terrible) script that only Q people could understand and then everything will lose money when the movie tanks.

    Where is Mel Brooks The Producers when you need him?

  87. 87.

    cain

    @MisterForkbeard:
    I loved Rogue One – although I was a bit shocked to see one of the older characters from the original series digitall re-created. That kind of blew my mind :) (not mentioning the name cuz spoilers)​
    ​
    ​

  88. 88.

    Ruckus

    @Elizabelle:

    People have thrown away reasonable careers for just as dumb shit forever. The can’t predict the future so they don’t bother to balance the possibilities.

  89. 89.

    Humanities Prof

    @Feckless: Watch The Expanse (on Amazon Prime) – lots of strong female characters, most also from minority backgrounds. And not all young – one of the main protagonists is a grandmother who is a high ranking politician.

  91. 91.

    thebewilderness

    Disney told her to stop speaking for herself and when she didn’t they fired her?

    I’m trying to figure out from your piece what she did, but not shutting up when told to seems to be all you are accusing her of.

  93. 93.

    Brachiator

    @thebewilderness: 

    I’m trying to figure out from your piece what she did, but not shutting up when told to seems to be all you are accusing her of.

    Disney does not like anyone fucking with their money. What is so hard to understand?

  94. 94.

    John S.

    @thebewilderness: You’re either being deliberately obtuse, or simply trolling.

    Her latest stupidity was claiming Republicans were being persecuted like Jews in the Holocaust. She has said plenty of other offensive things prior to that — things that almost any employer would fire an employee for.

  95. 95.

    gwangung

    @thebewilderness: She was also being a bigot who was trashing trans people. A castmase just had a sister come out. She continued to do so after that castmate sat her down a couple times.

    She was causing external problems and internal problems, so it was entirely predictable that she got the boot.

  97. 97.

    LeftCoastYankee

    In the very near future, people will watch that show and say “this is really bad, how did this become a big deal?”

    Probably as soon as they realize baby Yoda isn’t in that episode.

Comments are closed.