House Speaker Pelosi announces plans for a "9/11-type commission" to look in to the January 6 attack on the Capitolhttps://t.co/ADJob2nbl6
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) February 15, 2021
… “To protect our security, our next step will be to establish an outside, independent 9/11-type Commission to ‘investigate and report on the facts and causes relating to the January 6, 2021 domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex,'” Pelosi wrote…
A commission of this nature would be established by a statute, passed by both chambers and signed into law by the President. The commission members would not be elected leaders and would be outside the government.
In a separate letter to House Democrats earlier this month, Pelosi wrote that it is “clear that we will need to establish a 9/11-type Commission to examine and report upon the facts, causes and security relating to the terrorist mob attack on January 6.”…
In mid-January, Pelosi announced that retired Lt. General Russel Honoré will lead a review of the “security infrastructure” of Capitol Hill in the wake of the attack.
“For the past few weeks, General Honoré has been assessing our security needs by reviewing what happened on January 6 and how we must ensure that it does not happen again,” Pelosi wrote in her letter on Monday…
Earlier this month, Pelosi told reporters as she left a news conference that a 9/11-style commission to investigate the insurrection would look “different” than the one formed following the September 11, 2001, terror attack — and would have a greater emphasis on diversity.
“Different from 9/11. What were there, nine people? All white, one woman. It will look different,” she said at the time…
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Congress will establish an independent, Sept. 11-style commission to look into the deadly insurrection that took place at the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/13YNuILsJF
— The Associated Press (@AP) February 15, 2021
Congress should give the 1/6 Commission — which will look into Trump and his associates’ activities leading up to the insurrection — the power to make criminal referrals to law enforcement authorities. https://t.co/24nFp3mO6S
— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) February 15, 2021
(1) Yes, Pelosi (and McConnell, and etc.) should answer questions about preparation.
(2) Bipartisan is good, but no way anyone should be on this commission without a clear public statement that Biden won the election. https://t.co/hEHtYdvW04
— Jonathan Bernstein (@jbview) February 15, 2021
The Disloyal Opposition:
“Why didn’t Nancy Pelosi prevent the Trump mob from trying to murder Nancy Pelosi”
— Grudgie the Whale (@grudging1) February 15, 2021
J R in WV
FRist ??
Hurray!!! Lt. General Russel Honoré — who took over NOLA recovery after Katrina — will do a great job leading any investigation of the insurrection, how it was organized, who organized it, who paid for it, why they thought they could get away with it, all that!
John Revolta
Segundo!
Miss Bianca
House Republicans “demand” answers from Nancy Pelosi on Capitol security? Well, it’s like my momma always said: “Some people have more nerve than sense.”
J R in WV
@John Revolta:
Congrats to you, two!
Baud
@Miss Bianca:
“Pelosi needs to explain why she was woefully unprepared for what we were planning.”
Baud
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
SIETE
I also support a commission to look into the events of 1/6. We may be getting our Truth and Reconciliation Commission, in a sense, after all
trollhattan
@Miss Bianca:
1.6.21 = Benghazi II, the double-Benghaziing.
“What did Hillary know and when did she start pretending to not know it?”
Major Major Major Major
This is the right way to handle it, way better than calling witnesses and dragging out the impeachment.
Ruckus
@Miss Bianca:
I believe they think nerve is much more important than sense, that’s why they are full of nerve (or full of something) and have sold all their sense for $1.95. (Who ever bought their sense for $1.95 had already sold theirs.)
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Miss Bianca:
It’s just as outrageous as them acting scandalized that they have to go through metal detectors before entering House chambers. Everyone has to, Democrats and Republicans. What makes them so special?
Baud
@Ruckus:
They’re looking for some error or possibility of error on Pelosi’s part so they can pretend that washes away their sedition.
Chetan Murthy
I continue to wait for Attorney General Garland to start the massive number of investigations we need into all the many forms of crminality of the last four years. Sure, Congressional hearings and investigations are fine. But they rarely result in the sort of prosecutions that actually deter malefactors. And let’s be realistic: they won’t result in new *laws* that deter those malefactors, b/c those guys have half the Senate.
We need prosecutions, and I’m getting fed up waiting for all those state AGs who supposedly have jurisdiction to get off their asses.
Benw
You can’t investigate, we already acquitted! WAH
Just Some Fuckhead
@Baud: But McConnell doesn’t have to explain why he left the Senate unprepared. Apparently Pelosi suffers from the same tragic flaw Hillary has.
Burnspbesq
As long as nobody sees this commission as a substitute for grand juries, I guess I’m OK with it.
But these people need to do hard time.
Baud
@Just Some Fuckhead:
I believe the Speaker is in charge of the Capitol Police. That’s why they are able to pressure her.
Roger Moore
I agree that the Congressional leaders need to be interviewed on this. I think it says something about the Republicans that they see an interview as a threat rather than a basic part of due diligence.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Baud: Maybe, but it was Claire McCaskill who originally brought up my question and you’d think she’d have some knowledge.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
You’re absolutely correct. However, Republicans were in control of the Senate at the time. Even ignoring their roles in ratcheting up the anger that led to violence through their lies about the election, what’s their excuse?
Jay
Chetan Murthy
@Baud: Not really. There are committees in both Houses that appoint a Board, which oversees the USCP. Any responsibility that Pelosi has, is equally shared with Yertle, at a minimum.
Baud
@Just Some Fuckhead:
I’m sure the commission will get into all the details. The GOP will continue to spout their propaganda in the meantime.
Anne Laurie
If only one could stitch on a… Y chromosome, when required.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Actually, I don’t think that’s true. From the US Capitol Police website:
Baud
@Jay: I thought it was going to link to the Texas GOP website.
Gin & Tonic
Spent the day driving to help bury an old, old friend who did not survive Covid. I am emotionally drained.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Thanks. I heard wrong.
Millard Filmore
@Benw:
A perfect excuse for Republicans to vote against establishing the commission.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic: My condolences.
Just Some Fuckhead
Republicans never pass up a chance to blame the victim but when it’s a female it’s even easier for them. “She was asking for it.”
Mike in NC
Any Republican senator or congressperson found to have assisted the mob will need to lose their seat. Rudy Giuliani must be disbarred for inciting the rioters. Trump Jr should land in jail.
Roger Moore
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Gee. I don’t know white makes them think the rules don’t apply to them.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Gin & Tonic:
I’m so sorry, G&T. I can’t imagine how you must be feeling right now. My condolences
Miss Bianca
@Gin & Tonic: Oh, no. So sorry to hear it. My condolences.
Jay
@Baud:
not yet.
WaterGirl
Zoom is starting in 27 minutes. (doors open already)
If anyone wants to attend but haven’t written yet for the zoom link, I am still checking email.
Just Some Fuckhead
Speaking of Claire McCaskill, she’s been a kickass political commentator on MSNBC now that she’s letting her dirty hippie flag fly. And I love when MSNBC teams up Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid and Nicole Wallace. Really must-see TV. No idea why they have Brian Williams around who seems entirely too focused on hearing himself use words.
Jay
@Gin & Tonic:
I am so sorry.
Baud
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Agree.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
I like that it will be outside government, too. Not sure how it will be accomplished, but insisting that all members acknowledge that Biden was the winner will also be a good start.
germy
An epidemic of lawlessness. I blame their parents.
germy
Ivan X
“…passed by both chambers…”
Is that actually possible? I guess you only have to peel off three R Senators, though who knows how many of the original 7 want to get this behind them, now that they’ve exercised their act of “courage” against someone who is easy to loathe.
Baud
@germy:
There were good people on both sides.
Gin & Tonic
But I heard this on the radio coming home, and it made me smile. How could it not?
debbie
@germy:
I worry that Johnson’s fainting couch won’t arrive on time. //
germy
germy
@debbie:
Any floor will do.
Mary G
Coryn of Texas is blocking Deb Haaland for Interior Secretary. His state can’t handle its own energy business and he has the nerve to toady to his oil & gas donors.
Like Scott says,
Grrr.
Baud
@Mary G:
What do you mean blocking? I think the most they can so is delay by a few days.
debbie
@Gin & Tonic:
I am sorry for the loss of your friend.
debbie
An approval rating Fat Boy can only dream of.
LurkerNoLonger
*Palpatine laugh* Gooood. Gooood.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Roger Moore:
Oh I get it’s because they’re privileged assholes who think the rules don’t apply to them. But framing it the way I did correctly makes them look unreasonable and the privileged assholes they are
phdesmond
@Gin & Tonic:
sympathy, guy.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: I thought about it, but I look better behind the camera.
dm
I hope this is the start of many commissions, really. The last four years have shown the need for a lot of changes to how things are done in government with the reliance on norms, a sense of decency, a sense of shame to keep things on the rails.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
With all the cool kids on Zoom, we’ll have the blog to ourselves tonight. Whatcha wanna do?
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: You can participate voice only, if you want. I don’t do video on most zooms.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: Heh, that’s look and SOUND better behind the camera.
Ken
@Baud: You’re hoping for “The same thing we do every night… Try to take over the world!”, aren’t you?
chopper
@Baud:
let’s hate on everyone behind their backs!
chopper
@chopper:
i’ll start. baud is a real POS you know? oh wait
Soprano2
@Gin & Tonic: I’m so sorry, that’s tough.
Baud
@Ken: Maybe.
@chopper: There’s this one commenter who annoys me so much with her indefatigable energy. I’ll call her AguaChica to protect her identity.
ChuckInAustin
the ‘9/11 commission’ was a joke. we need to do better
WaterGirl
@Baud: sniff-sniff
Baud
@chopper:
Hey! You should join the Zoom call if you want to talk trash about me.
Major Major Major Major
@Gin & Tonic: hang in there.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
You’re still here?
WaterGirl
@Baud: Sometimes people remember the Zoom at the last minute and say so in a thread, so I am half participating in both places.
I’m not the biggest zoomer ever, so I do a lot more listening than talking.
WaterGirl
@Baud: You can still trash talk me, though. I know you don’t really mean it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
I’m so sorry.
satby
@WaterGirl: I don’t understand the point of a zoom meeting with no zoom. That’s a teleconference.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Indefatigable energy.
satby
@Gin & Tonic: Condolences G&T. Wish we didn’t have to say that so much these days.
debbie
@satby:
Kitten filters should be mandatory at the very least.
satby
@Baud: she is an energizer bunny, to be sure!
Geoboy
@germy: Lock him up!!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@satby: I have a zoom lens, is zoom anything like that?
WaterGirl
@satby: A teleconference is still a conversation and is different from typing on the blog.
Baud
@satby:
Just proves that the less you pay people, the harder they’ll work for you.
WaterGirl
NotMax had the donkey filter going for awhile.
MomSense
@Gin & Tonic:
I’m so sorry.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Incidentally, friends in Texas were on Facebook talking about how there is a Blizzard Truther movement movement now on with the Texas Wingnuts. Apparently cold weather is a Liberal conspiracy.
satby
So, blizzard conditions here now (ho-hum) and there’s nothing better than sitting snug in front of a pretend roaring electric fireplace and having a nice bowl of Hudson’s ice cream. Toasted Coconut and Dark Chocolate Almond, to be specific. Nummmm!
satby
@WaterGirl: picky, picky
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: It’s not a filter.
trollhattan
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Jade Helm with icepacks?
WaterGirl
@satby: I had toasted coconut ice cream in South Haven, MI in the summer of 2019 and it was the best cream I have ever had.
I did not know you could buy toasted coconut ice cream at a grocery store.
mrmoshpotato
@Gin & Tonic: I’m sorry. Let us know if you need anything.
J R in WV
@Gin & Tonic:
I’m so sorry for your loss… We have been so lucky to have not lost close people to this Trump Plague. Most of our friends are rural, hiding out up lour hollows and on our ridges. So far, anyway.
Take care, G&T, watch out for yourself, and keep in touch!!
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ha! I will not tell him you said that. What’s written on BJ stays on BJ.
LuciaMia
@Gin & Tonic: My God, what a terrible day. Im so sorry.
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Already saw it.
:)
WaterGirl
It seems like Jen Psaki didn’t have a press briefing today. Did she get President’s Day off?
mrmoshpotato
@satby:
???
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@trollhattan: Maybe, or Antifa leaving the doors open on their fridges in unison.
L85NJGT
FYI:
df
@Gin & Tonic: I’m so sorry. I hope, in time, you can find some peace.
Jay
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
WTF?????????
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: I think she said in her first briefing there wouldn’t be briefings on weekends or holidays, the followed up with “I’m not a monster”.
ETA: “I’m not a monster” probably sounded better than “I’m not a masochist”.
satby
@WaterGirl:
Hudson’sHudsonville is a local brand, don’t know if it’s in IL. Jewel-Osco, Walmart, and Mariano in IL seem to, at least in Chicago and South suburbs.mrmoshpotato
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Holy imbeciles, Batman!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Jay: I know. These are people who are directly experiencing this and claiming it’s fake news. Something about Alex Jones.
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I heard the “I am not a monster” comment at the time, but I didn’t catch the “holiday” part.
At the University, we always had to work on President’s Day. But I guess the Federal government would count President’s Day as a holiday.
thanks
mrmoshpotato
@satby: I will be on the hunt for this iced cream!
MagdaInBlack
@WaterGirl: OMG @ toasted coconut ice cream. Taking notes here. TY Satby, for the brand =-)
Eta; Oh Yay. The store down the street has it!
dexwood
@Gin & Tonic: Strength and peace. We’ve lost two family members to covid in the last three weeks.
WaterGirl
@satby: Looks like they sell Hudsonville at one of my grocery stores here, but no toasted coconut. Looks like they sell toasted coconut in Kalamazoo where my sister lives, though.
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack:
About 4 miles south of me! Mmmm
John S.
@WaterGirl: The best ice cream I’ve ever had was Murphy’s Ice Cream in Killarney, Ireland. I don’t what the hell they do to it, but it’s amazing. They claim it’s because they only use milk from Kerry cows.
Quinerly
GA Bar investigating Lin Wood. He has now doxed the officials asking QAnon supporters to find dirt/info on them. (he has 800,000 followers on social media “Telegram.”) Wood has published addresses, info about officials. Plus, Joe Biden is not actually in the WH. It’s all fake. It’s essentially a movie set in an undisclosed location. And Wood is now representing Sidney Powell in the suit Dominion filed against her.
You simply can’t make this shit up. Laughable except he is trying to get members of the Disciplinary Board of the State Bar of Georgia killed.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9jd9/lin-wood-doxed-georgia-officials-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-qanon-supporters
satby
@dexwood: That’s so awful! Condolences to you and your family too.
MagdaInBlack
@mrmoshpotato: 3 blocks, neener neener =-)
Tonys Finer Foods
WaterGirl
@MagdaInBlack: Oh, I am so jealous.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: When I was growing up, my dad who worked for DOD would get Columbus Day off, but we still had to go to school.
WaterGirl
@dexwood: I am so sorry. That’s awful.
topclimber
@Burnspbesq: That may be a dodge for bad actors: I can’t testify to the commission because there is a criminal investigation going on…a glorified version of taking the Fifth.
Jay
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
ahhhh, the Rothschilds again, and Soro’s of course
L85NJGT
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I’m sure summer demand is met by off interconnect purchases done on futures contracts. Wading into the spot market now? Insanely expensive if the power is even available.
Dan B
@WaterGirl: Wow! My aunts had a “cottage” in the dunes near Covert, MI. We went to South Haven to fish at the pier every visit, which was almost every year because we lived closer to the “cottage” . My aunts lived in Bogota, Colorado Springs, Nagoya, Vicenza, etc. We were probably in South Haven before the ice cream you describe.
Redshift
@Gin & Tonic: I’m very sorry to hear that.
satby
@John S.: Irish milk and butter is richer because it’s almost exclusively grass fed. A local farmer here sells raw milk from his grass fed dairy cows and when I used to buy it, it was incredibly good. I only quit buying it because he wasn’t a masker.
Sloane Ranger
I don’t know if anyone has picked up on this but CNN has reported that Adam Kitzinger? has received a letter from a cousin calling him an embarrassment to the family and accusing him of betraying Christ by joining the Army of Satan. All because he voted to impeach Trump. I’m gobsmacked, totally gobsmacked.
Redshift
@L85NJGT: A co-worker in Omaha had rolling power shutoffs today because their region has a power-sharing agreement with Texas.
L85NJGT
@Quinerly:
Everybody knows Joe Biden never existed. ?
WaterGirl
@Dan B: I have been to South Haven multiple times when we would go to the beach. I want the toasted coconut ice cream now, dammit.
WaterGirl
@Sloane Ranger: These people have lost the plot.
Baud
@Sloane Ranger:
According to one headline, the letter says this
satby
@mrmoshpotato: @MagdaInBlack: look at the “view deal” on the website when you pull up your zip code, one of the stores may be running a sale. My local store had it on sale for $3.49 / half gallon down from the regular price of $4.99!
Dan B
@WaterGirl: We went to a fantastic old fashioned amusement park in Benton Harbor. Doubt it’s there anymore. The four story double wooden slide would violate OSHA rules on a logarithmic scale.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
I’ve been thinking about this since the other day and I thought I’d put it towards the commentariat and front pagers to see it if gets any support:
What do you all think about doing an open thread dedicated towards commenters giving accounts about how the pandemic has affected them? I think it could be very cathartic, especially for those that have lost loved ones to the virus
mrmoshpotato
@MagdaInBlack: ??
WaterGirl
@Dan B: Yeah, Benton Harbor has gotten screwed over the years, so it’s a good bet that that’s gone. I bet satby would know for sure.
NotMax
@Dan B
Chickenman!
;)
mrmoshpotato
@satby: Thank you!
L85NJGT
@Redshift:
They also buy from northern Mexico, which has the same problem.
Sloane Ranger
@Baud:
Gosh, well Kitzinger only has one option now and it involves a library and a loaded pistol. How else is he to save the family honour and reputation?
Seriously, WTF?
Brachiator
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I think that this has happened before, fairly recently in a John Cole post.
It’s a good idea.
cain
@Sloane Ranger:
lol Lou Dobbs – I lost respect for Lou Dobbs decades ago.
topclimber
@Gin & Tonic:
@dexwood:
We have been fortunate not to lose family or friends. May you find comfort, and may the rest of us stay lucky.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
To bad Robert Caro is too old to write a “Master of the
SenateHouse” type biography on Nancy Smashsatby
@Dan B: @WaterGirl: If I remember some stories, was it this one? Closed, but a group is trying to raise funds to restore it.
hueyplong
I’d love to brag to people that I’d lost the respect of Lou Dobbs.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Was he this guy’s dad?
Baud
@hueyplong:
Not me. It would mean that I once had the respect of Lou Dobbs.
Martin
@debbie: Please don’t demean Fat Boy like that. It only destroyed one city and killed 100,000 people. Individual-1 somehow managed to do worse.
Ken
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Is it really that surprising? Limbaugh had Floridians standing outside during a hurricane.
The Lodger
@Sloane Ranger: I thought it was the lead pipe in th he conservatory.
?BillinGlendaleCA
I was notified on FB that the kid climbed Mt. Lee today. She posted a nice pic of the back of the Hollywood Sign and said she hiked over from the Observatory(almost a 9 mile r/t hike).
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: ?
Martin
@Just Some Fuckhead: I agree on that team of 4 women. It’s pretty fun to watch them.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
about two weeks ago Washington had their yearly “National Prayer Breakfast”. It was done on zoom and Biden, Obama, Dubya, Clinton, Carter ALL made separate appearances. There was one person who couldn’t be bothered and didn’t even respond to the invitation.
Roger Moore
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I encourage them to stage a pro-Trump boat parade to show the liberals they aren’t going to fall for their blizzard conspiracy.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I’m sure he was personally consulting with God and couldn’t make it.
Amir Khalid
@Gin & Tonic:
Please accept my condolences too.
Martin
@Sloane Ranger:
Yeah, Trumpism isn’t at all a fascist movement. Nosiree.
WaterGirl
@Brachiator: We also had the Thank You Anne Laurie Fuck You COVID post. That was definitely part covid festivus
With a Grateful Heart… and Bonus Festivus
The Lodger
@Roger Moore: We need Iceberg Truthers.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Old news
Baud
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:
He shouldn’t have been invited.
grandmaBear
Just found out an old friend, a former college housemate, died of COVID last month in Africa. He was a virologist and longtime AIDS researcher. Truly nice guy too. Such a waste.
WaterGirl
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Was Carter on video? I worried about him when they didn’t even show video of Carter for the Inauguration.
Baud
@Roger Moore:
We need to convince them that air is a liberal conspiracy.
Jeffro
@Quinerly: that’s a lot of trouble for Lin to go to, instead of just saying, “well…I guess I was wrong on a few things this past year…”
Ken
@Roger Moore: BOATS * BEERS * BABES * BLIZZARDS
Delk
@WaterGirl: I have/had a friend with a beachfront cottage. He’s a Log Cabinet Republican. I quit talking to him when I saw the McCain/Palin bumper sticker.
NotMax
@The Lodger
“Go with the floe, dude.”
//
nclurker
@John S.: i prefer the darker,wetter murphy’s.
a fine pint of stout.
cheers all
WaterGirl
@Delk: That’s a real loss.
Access to the beachfront cottage… the friend who supported Palin, maybe not so much.
JMG
Just raining here on the Cape, but apparently ice is becoming a problem in Boston. We had black bean soup and cheese and leftover vegetarian chili for dinner. Good storm food. All board members in Texas, Arkansas, etc., stay safe. I worry for you. Wish I could airlift my snowblower.
Geminid
@Sloane Ranger: I’ll be interesred in Kinsinger’s primary next year. My guess is that he’ll win renominstion, especially if he has more than one opponent. Another impeacher, Tom Rice (SC-7), is probably a goner, though. South Carolina Republicans seem even more conservative than the Illinois type.
CarolPW
@Martin: Little boy and fat man, you have conflated the two. Those were so horrific that the comparison on first thought seems really offensive, except on second thought the loss of life to covid is also horrific and at a scale hard to grasp.
The losses are so individual and dispersed among the population, the fears so immediate and familial, and the whole thing so claustrophobic the only thing that has adequately depicted the extent for me are the photos of the vast number of new graves being dug.
Mary G
@Gin & Tonic: I’m so sorry. That is hard.
@grandmaBear: You as well.
MagdaInBlack
@Quinerly: Watching a clip of him now. The guys nuts. But you knew that.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I am Zoomed out I will be here.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@WaterGirl: Sadly he wasn’t on video. He sent a letter which was read out loud.
I tried to find video of Carter last month because I was concerned about his absence and the only one I could find was from October (video). I hope winter isn’t being too hard on them.
WaterGirl
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I think he must not be doing well, which makes me terribly sad.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I think someone posted a picture not long ago of Jimmy and Roslyn watching fireworks from their driveway on New Years Eve
ETA: I don’t think this is the picture I was thinking of, but it is from NY Day
Quinerly
@Gin & Tonic: so, so sorry.
brantl
@Dan B: That sucker was the scariest thing on the planet!
zhena gogolia
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
You don’t have to turn on your camera! Someone was using one of your photos as a backdrop this evening.
zhena gogolia
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Great idea.
J R in WV
@dexwood:
So sorry for your loss. We’re fortunate to live in a rural area where, so far, it has been easy to maintain our distance from people willing and anxious to spread the virus to others.
Stay strong, safe, keep your distance, wear masks, and keep in touch!
Kattails
this took so long to write out the thread’s probably dead but WTF:
Ice cream: we have a great local dairy, stuff comes in bottles so it’s not super-processed. Tastes so much fresher, and the half and half will spoil you for butterfat content. For those who have a Kitchenaid, you can get an ice cream attachment that works well, keep it in the deep freezer until needed.
I made a coconut ice cream once, came out really well. 2 c. milk, 2 c. cream, 2 c. coconut milk (not lite), bring all to a simmer and steep 1 c. toasted coconut for 10 minutes. (toast extra for the top, you’re going to strain this out.) Temper 8 egg yolks in a bit of the hot liquid, whisk all together with 1 1/2c. sugar ( I think I used some brown sugar) pinch of salt. Cook gently to about 170º, or just until the custard thickens, don’t scramble the eggs. Strain it and chill over an ice bath or overnight in the fridge. Your teaspoon of vanilla and maybe dash of coconut extract and 2T. of dark rum goes in after it’s all cool. The alcohol keeps the homemade ice cream from freezing too hard. I do not like very sweet things and this had a good coconut flavor without being cloying.
If one were so inclined, Maida Heatter’s Rum Mocha Chocolate sauce: melt 1/4 # butter, add 1 c. sugar, 1/3 c. strained cocoa, 2 T. dark rum or other (orange or Amaretto are nice), 1 c. cream, pinch salt, bit of instant coffee, simmer 5 minutes. Off the heat stir in a teaspoon vanilla. toast some almonds to top it all off & you have a giant Mounds bar. That makes over 2 c. sauce BTW and keeps for a long time in the fridge.
My other fantasy ice creams might be linzer cookie, almond shortbread type cookie mix ins with raspberry swirl; and caramel bourbon pecan.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That’s good news.
laura
@Gin & Tonic: You’ve given much of yourself in doing sacred tasks. Be gentle with yourself.
mrmoshpotato
@Kattails: ? mmmmmmm. Thanks!
westyny
@Gin & Tonic: sincere condolences.
Patricia Kayden
Brachiator
@Gin & Tonic:
Such sad news.
My condolences.
schrodingers_cat
@Kattails: Have you ever tried kulfi? It is Indian ice-cream made with 100% cream. Mango and fig versions are to die for
Fresh blueberry ice-cream at the farm store at UMaine is another ice-cream that is out of this world.
JMG
Best ice cream I ever had was in the press box of the Michigan State football stadium, a product of the campus dairy farm. Many state u’s have one (UConn’s makes great milkshakes) and most have a dairy stand. If you’re near a school like that, check it out.
mrmoshpotato
@Patricia Kayden: When is the good Reverend’s term up?
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: The 2022 election, I believe.
MagdaInBlack
@schrodingers_cat: OMG, yer killin’ me. We have a big Patel Bros relatively close by. I’ll have to stop in.
Ice cream is my weakness.
Kattails
@grandmaBear: @Gin & Tonic: @SiubhanDuinne: To all of you, I am so sorry for your losses. I also had a long time friend have to be taken off life support just a few days ago, although not due to COVID. Her husband (at the same time) barely make it through a horrific reaction to a surgery. Another good friend’s brother hospitalized with a major blood infection. The inability to visit, to help people, to get physically close, is so demoralizing for everyone. Take care of yourselves.
schrodingers_cat
@MagdaInBlack: What you get at Patel Brothers is good but this kulfi was I am remembering was at small storefront of a kulfi factory in Lonavla, a tiny resort town in the Sahyadris within 4 hours drive of Mumbai.
SiubhanDuinne
@dexwood:
How awful. I’m so sorry.
MagdaInBlack
@schrodingers_cat: That sounds wonderful =-)
Kattails
@schrodingers_cat: I have not! mango would be up my alley. I will have to look for it locally, there’s so much more available nowadays even in the boonies. Of course I could make homemade with whatever level of butterfat content I wanted…. except for that pesky waistline thing. I haven’t been making desserts for the last year because I have to eat the whole batch of whatever all by myself.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Three words: Bwah, ha, and ha.
topclimber
@Geminid: I don’t know Rice’s district, but perhaps if Dems can’t win it they would be better off backing him as an independent should he lose his primary. I also depends on whether SC has a sore loser law. It would seem out of character for the state, not to foster (white) sore losers about damn near everything.
WaterGirl
@Kattails: I’m sorry, Kattails. I knew about the couple, but I didn’t know he didn’t make it. Another friend on top of that, that’s so much worry and so much loss.
schrodingers_cat
@Kattails: There are kulfi hacks that start with mascarpone or ricotta cheese. But the old school way is start with heavy cream and sugar and then reduce it on a low flame. It is indulgent so a little goes a long way.
laura
Sending a shout out to Kayla Rudbek and hoping she’s home comfortably. Wishing you all the best.
Peale
@Mary G: ok. Could someone explain what procedure he’s using now? The flufferdusterbyrd?
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:
This is from just a few weeks ago (not a video).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/incredible-things-jimmy-carter-does-in-his-90s-2019-5%3famp
NotMax
Nice Zoom. Thanks to all who were present!
Brachiator
@J R in WV:
I love the idea that a tough and honorable black man is heading up this investigation. Hope it makes the Republicans and their asswipe supporters nervous as hell.
LurkerNoLonger
@Patricia Kayden: he’s a glutton for punishment .
SiubhanDuinne
@Kattails:
Thank you for your condolences. I’m very sorry about your friends. You are right, the enforced distancing and separation makes an already grievous time just that much harder.
Kattails
@WaterGirl: Actually it was the wife who didn’t make it. He was in the hospital with a blood infection from the surgery, was in and out and finally in the ICU. The infection affected almost all his organs. He had to be intubated. Dialysis. In the meantime she had a different thing happen, some sort of inflammation that turned to strep that got into her heart that dislodged blood clots that got into her brain. She had long term physical issues, but still. He came around and had to deal with this, along with her family. It has been a nightmare.
However, he is coming around, is in physical therapy, is done with dialysis, but still inpatient. So lucky that several of us are close enough to coordinate and keep things going at their house, in rotation.
Kattails
@SiubhanDuinne: I caught your heartbreaking story from yesterday but too late for the thread. The separations and stresses on people… to lose your sister and then nephew in so short a time. Holding you in my thoughts.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne: He better watch out for large rabbits while he’s fishing.
jonas
Haven’t bothered to look, but it’s almost not possible that some GOP slimebag who spent years, and millions of taxpayer dollars, on the Benghazi committee has not already, with nary a shred of self-awareness or irony, slammed Pelosi for “wasting time” with a “politicized hearing process”.
Dan B
@NotMax: Not sure what the reference to Benton Harbor is but it must be good!?!
Clicked on the link, duh… Good one.
Benton Harbor became a middle class black majority city (as I recall). It had been a very dull white middle class town. Would a black superhero been as dull and annoying?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Patricia Kayden: whatever happened to that insider trading investigation? or was it ‘those insider trading investigations’?
Dan B
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): It seems like a good idea to update our experiences during Covid. We may be living (and dying) with this for quite some time, even as there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Mary G
My male housemate took care of a full time client who lived in a four generation household/compound with his wife, their son and his wife, a grandson and his wife, and a toddler great grandson. They went on vacation, the whole family plus my housemate, together to Maui, Oregon, Mexico, and someplace else over the five years he cared for him. He died last fall (of being 98 years old, not Covid), but no one could visit him in the hospital and they were unable to get him released for hospice at home because the hospice nurses were doing Covid care. It was just awful for such a close family and my housemate too for the month he was in the hospital all alone. They had a Zoom funeral too which did not go well.
raven
@NotMax: Mrs Helpinger!
Kent
Best headline of the day from Slate. I haven’t read the article but it is pretty much perfect:
Dan B
@satby: Eden Springs Amusement Park! Yep. I’d forgotten the name. It was fantastic for an 8 to 12 year old with a rotating barrel the cool jocks could do a handstand and rotate 360 degrees. I believe there was a big vertical barrel that spun around so you were pinned to the wall by centripetal force. Then the floor dropped out and you were ten feet up. Girls skirts would get pulled up if they bent their knees – wholesome fun! =<()
Restoration would be amazing. OSHA permitting.
Dan B
@brantl: My brother was terrified of the giant slide. He was finally given a push which twirled him around and sent him backwards down the slide on his square of carpet. Forward was bad enough. The cousin (evil girl!@#!). Was terrified he’d get hurt but he came out a brave hero for not screaming all the way down.
There go two miscreants
I have never been to Benton Harbor, but as an older electrical engineer I have fond thoughts of the place; it was the home of Heathkit. I built quite a few (and still have some).
WaterGirl
@Brachiator: @J R in WV:
The scope of what Honore is doing is much smaller than that. This is the scope:
WaterGirl
@Kattails: Apologies for getting that backwards. Terribly hard and awful for all concerned.
Ruckus
@germy:
I don’t blame their parents. Sure they may not have taught them right from wrong….. I think I see the flaw in my logic.
But seriously. These are fucking grown ass adults. If I have to accept responsibility for my actions and words, so can they.
mrmoshpotato
Haha
Brachiator
@mrmoshpotato:
Wow. Just like Prohibition era speakeasies.
Except with people dying unnecessarily from a terrible virus.
Mary G
@mrmoshpotato: Good for him, or her.
James E Powell
I like the idea of the commission, but please can we please please please not appoint a Respected Republican Daddy to lead it, please?
Jay
@Brachiator:
and of course, Cops Breaking The Law.
43 more “rotten apples”.
mrmoshpotato
Wouldn’t that require exhumation?
Mary G
Senator Toomey’s in trouble:
My bold. It’s striking how that one sentence encapsulates the Republican Party, and how the main body has given up on any pretense of caring about the country, or plausible deniability through dog whistles. He just tells the truth.
Kayla Rudbek
@laura: I wound up taking a very long nap after I got home from the ultrasound scan. The bad news is that they saw a very suspicious area on each breast and a circular lymph node in one armpit. The good news is that these would be small areas as they weren’t detectable by touch.
So now I get to wait for the biopsy appointment and ponder which breast really did change size (as either getting larger or smaller asymmetrically can be a sign, and I was in between bra sizes anyway such that I have bras of different cup sizes in my regular rotation, which was how I caught this in the first place.)
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@James E Powell: Hasn’t happened with any of the appointments thus far, seriously doubt it will happen now.
Besides, as mrmoshpotato said, a shovel and/or a seance would be required.
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: You hate to see the Rethuglican party eating itself. Let me see if I have any microwave popcorn.
OldDave
I just lurked – first time using zoom; didn’t figure out how to unmute my mike (and didn’t have much to say in any case). It was fun being able to put faces to names.
ETA: The Benton Harbor reference was fun as well – both because I remember the Chickenman radio clips, and because there are multiple Heathkits in my past.
Kelly
Oh My! When I was a teen we had a milk cow. We had a quart or two of fresh cream every day. We talked Mom into mixing up a batch 100% cream ice cream. Just vanila. It finished with tiny flecks of butter throughout. The first couple spoonfuls were heavenly but it was so rich no one could finish a usual bowl full.
Jay
@James E Powell:
Gen. Honore isn’t a “respected ReThug Daddy”.
While he respects people who run for office, he declined because “his current opinions” do not align with the ReThugs or the voters in his District.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: it would make a dignified exit for Stephen Breyer…. Janet Napolitano, Bob Graham, Michele Flournoy
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@Gin & Tonic: I’m so sorry. David Perry, a writer I follow on Twitter, has a thoughtful and personal piece at CNN.com, about the burden of delayed mourning facing us. Hard as it is to lose people, we’re also forced to go without the things that help us bear our losses.
(I’d link but I keep ending up linked to an old piece of Imani Gandy’s, which is good but not germane to this)
StringOnAStick
I bought a cute little plant last week, it’s a Hoya Kerii, and in a larger plant it would be a string of large, thick heart shaped leaves. This is a baby so just one leaf. It’s a slow grower and I saw variegated ones in Etsy if anyone is interested. It’s in a high window in the shower and it’s fun to look up and see a heart shape sticking up from the pot.
Sorry, I just tired of politics right now.
Enzymer
@J R in WV: I hope??
Honore did a great job post-Katrina, agreed! But I’m not sure how much that skill set helps in a detective/intelligence operation.
I’d rather see General(ret’d) Honore’s talents used more effectively in organizing pandemic relief. Talent >> Need
SiubhanDuinne
@a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio:
Your link goes to a July 2011 ABL post.
zhena gogolia
@Kayla Rudbek:
I hope you get some reassuring news.
satby
Just took the dogs out for the last time tonight and we’ve had about 4 inches of powder dry snow fall. Luckily not windy out or the drifts would be big; as it is I’m not sure I’ll be able to get my car out of the alley to the street tomorrow.
And on that note, g’nite all!
satby
@Kayla Rudbek: Hoping for a good outcome. Keep us posted ?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Brian Williams after a tape plays of Ron Johnson saying the insurrection was mostly people milling about in the Capitol: “We translated from the original Russian”
Mary G
@Kayla Rudbek:
Waiting is so hard. I am sending you light and hope. I had a lump years ago and the tech wasn’t sufficient to see it, so I had to undergo general anesthesia for the biopsy. It was the first year my company had changed us to mandated managed care and jumping through all the hoops and forms and approvals was terrible. It came out benign but those weeks of waiting to get on with it were excruciating.
Kayla Rudbek
@zhena gogolia: 80% of biopsies don’t come back as cancer so here’s hoping that they make the correct diagnosis whatever the results are
@satby: thank you and the rest of the jackals for your support!
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Generally he’s just a gasbag, but between this and the “grown ass men” comment a while back, I could learn to tolerate the little maroon.
Yutsano
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I am sooooo looking for that clip!
rikyrah
Go Nancy Smash ??
rikyrah
@Kayla Rudbek:
????
rikyrah
@Gin & Tonic:
???
Ohio Mom
Kayla Rudbek:
Ha! I was just about to comment that 80% of breast biopsies come back benign. You are on top of things.
And of the 20% that don’t, 80% are early stage cancers, as mine was, I think it was seven years ago? Maybe eight? I am losing count.
Like Mary G, I found the wait for my results excruciating. If this is the case for you, you are entitled to ask your PCP for Ativan or something similar.
Keep us posted, we are pulling for you.
Enzymer
@Gin & Tonic: To the best of my abilities, I understand. Take care of your self, but more importantly, empower important people in your life to take care of you, so that you can properly mourn.
Sm*t Cl*de
@SiubhanDuinne:
The Carter Center reports 27 cases of Guinea Worm from 2020, so looks like Carter will have to stick around for a few more years in order to gain the supreme lifetime achievement of wiping out a hideous disease.
He’s no older than David Attenborough or Queen Betty, so why not?
mrmoshpotato
@Sm*t Cl*de: Carter is over a year and a half older than both of them.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Gin & Tonic:
Condolences to you and a prayer for your friend. ?
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@SiubhanDuinne: I’ve given up on the link; I can’t see why it kept going there, as I was copying the link from David’s piece. He posts as lollardfish on Twitter, if you don’t see the piece at the CNN site.
Yutsano
@Kayla Rudbek: Love and healing light to you dear lady. I’m glad you’re staying on the side of optimism. And should you lose the Bingo game (h/t frosty*) the treatments for cancer and especially breast cancer are so much further advanced than they used to be. I hope you will be well and more importantly stay well.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Brian Williams has been loosening up and letting his freak flag fly more lately, especially on his solo show. Much more willing to “tell it like it is” and to call out GQP malfeasance.
Agree about Claire McCaskill and RaJoNic.
Ruckus
In case no one else has posted this, I ran across this NPR report on the assholes storming the capital building on Jan 6th. I suggest you don’t read it if you get pissed easily, because it’s very easy to not appreciate the ignorance, arrogance, asinine behavior, and general assholyness of almost all of these people. It also takes a while to go through, let alone read.
Another Scott
@a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio:
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott is.
Jay
@Kayla Rudbek:
I hope it all turns out well.
more waiting, in a time of waiting, fear, and loss.
feel free to vent here anytime you need to.
SiubhanDuinne
@a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio:
I found it, and read it, and it’s excellent. Thank you. I’ll try the CNN link now, in case others want to read it.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/11/opinions/covid-19-grief-wave-is-coming-perry/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
SiubhanDuinne
@Kayla Rudbek:
I share in wishing you a good outcome. You’re in my thoughts.
Ruckus
@Kayla Rudbek:
Very best of luck. It can really, really feel like a very, very long haul, from first suspicion, through testing and if necessary, treatment. I know, I’ve been through it. Another one of life’s details that they forgot to list in the brochure. Stay strong, if you need a shoulder…..
SiubhanDuinne
@Another Scott:
Very Yoda-esque.
:-)
fuckwit
After COVID, I think we are all soshalists now.
“Essential workers” getting paid shit, having shit hours, no health care or benefits (no more than 35 hours a week, fuck you, no benefits for you) and treated like shit: hell maybe we need some soshalism!
Free healthcare and a well funded (with taxes!) public health system would make clusterfucks like COVID less of a clusterfuck.
Housing in private hands and at the whims of market is horrible when you lose your job due to COVID or similar.
Most “jobs” are what David Graeber called “Bullshit Jobs”– totally unessential. We either don’t need them at all and should have UBI for everyone else, and at very least nobody needs to fucking sit in a car for 3 hours a day to go to and from it.
Basically, all the leftist positions that were laughed at 2 years ago can be understood to be practical and necessary now.
Even my Republican mom has come over to realize that the way we treat the workers who really matter (Marx was right!) is appalling. Bernie or bust.
dww44
@Gin & Tonic: so sorry for your loss. So ready to get this pandemic under control. I know it’s not gonna be over with anytime soon.
Yutsano
@fuckwit:
Oh kid. You were doing so well…
karen marie
@Quinerly: The Trump shitshow isn’t over by a long shot.
I’m diverting myself with What We Do In the Shadows on Hulu. The funniest show in a long time. Tilda Swinton and Danny Trejo make an appearance but Matt Berry! The whole cast is great but Matt Berry!
KrackenJack
@schrodingers_cat:
They have rose kulfi at some of the local Indian restaurants. Good, but I’d like to try the fig. I made a sugar-free version of David Lebovitz’s chocolate ice cream today. (I’m in one of the snow-free parts of the US. So it’s not as perverse as it sounds.)
Uncle Cosmo
@Yutsano: He clearly felt the need to post something to nail down the justification for his nym.
Chris Johnson
@Yutsano:
Yeah, with him till the last three words. Bust Bernie, plenty of replacements out there who can engage with the problem.
If he gets primaried and I really, seriously believe the rival is not a Putin operative, I’d vote against him. If Liz Warren moved here and ran against him I’d be canvassing for her until my feet fell off :)
edit for the BJ crowd: I can specify. Bernie got used as a Putin idiot, not an operative. He fired one suspicious campaign manager, grumpily backed Hillary, and loves him some Biden (possibly ‘cos he’s got too much sexism in him). Right now there are many leftists (say, Jimmy Dore) who are working way harder for Putin than Bernie ever did. I hope Bernie is bitter about what got done with him, and knows enough about it to be the sworn enemy of the seditionists and fake left.