Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

Everybody saw this coming.

The words do not have to be perfect.

When they say they’re pro-life, they don’t mean yours.

I also would like a pony to improve my balloon juice experience.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

I am pretty sure Katy Tur wasn’t always such a bootlicking sycophant.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Well, whatever it is, it’s better than being a Republican.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

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Former Guy’s Tax Returns Turned Over to Manhattan DA

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The Former Guy’s tax returns have been turned over to District Attorney Cyrus Vance in Manhattan.

The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has taken possession of former president Donald Trump’s tax returns and a wealth of other financial data deemed central to prosecutors’ ongoing criminal case, officials confirmed Thursday.

The transfer, involving millions of pages of records, occurred Monday after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the former president’s last-ditch bid to shield his financial records from the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D).

In a statement, a spokesman for Vance’s office, Danny Frost, confirmed that Trump’s longtime accounting firm, Mazars, had complied with the subpoena after 18 months of delay while the former president’s lawyers fought tooth and nail to keep the information private. The transfer occurred within hours of the Supreme Court’s one-line order, Frost said.

My favorite line from the article:

Trump faces unprecedented legal jeopardy for a former president.

This makes me ridiculously happy.

To use a favorite phrase of former boss of mine:  I hope the former guy is as nervous as a goose shitting peach pits.

Open thread.

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  7. 7.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Trump faces unprecedented legal jeopardy for a former president.

    I’ll believe it when I see it. We have two strong tendencies in our system. One is to never hold Republicans accountable. The other is to move past unpleasantness as if it never happened because “the system” is presumed to not be able to withstand the upheaval.

    As a side note, we already know Trump is guilty of the crime that put Cohen in the slammer. He’s unindicted co-conspirator #1. Why isn’t anything moving on that front? See my first paragraph.

  8. 8.

    MattF

    Millions of pages… is a lot of pages. I suspect that someone’s porn stash got swept into the archive.

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Trump + Jan 6 blew through that.

    They got away with stuff, and got away with more stuff.  They thought they were invincible, and they went too far.  I believe there will be consequences, if only to get him the hell off the field for 2024.

  13. 13.

    JPL

    @Lapassionara: Ivanka and Jared avoided jail time because of him.   We can only hope that he’s changed, or someone in his office sends the returns to the NYTimes.

  14. 14.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @WaterGirl: Ima remain skeptical. Hope is for children and fools, like my grandma used to say. She was given six months to live with a heart problem and promptly got run over crossing the road

  21. 21.

    Redshift

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    As a side note, we already know Trump is guilty of the crime that put Cohen in the slammer. He’s unindicted co-conspirator #1. Why isn’t anything moving on that front? See my first paragraph. 

    I believe I have read that is part of this investigation, but I don’t have a reference handy.

  22. 22.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Redshift: That investigation is already done. It was completed when they convicted Michael Cohen. They didn’t charge Trump because of the (wrong) opinion you can’t indict a sitting president. He is not a sitting president any more. This is an easy lay-up.

  25. 25.

    germy

    To use a favorite phrase of former boss of mine:  I hope the former guy is as nervous as a goose shitting peach pits.

    As nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

    As nervous as a turkey in November

    As nervous as a Christian Scientist with a severed artery.

  27. 27.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax:

    So old can remember predictions of the paperless office.

    :)

    Oh yeah?  When was the last time you saw a newspaper at an office?

  30. 30.

    Mo Salad

    @NotMax: You’d be surprised how quickly our CPA firm adapted to a virtual office once the pandemic hit. It is mostly paperless now. Most clients scan stuff at home and upload it to a portal. If they drop off or mail paper, our skeleton staff that is still in the office scans it for us.

    If Trump did all this stuff in 2022, instead of 2012, they’d just hand over a 4TB backup drive with .pdfs and QuickBooks (or equivalent) files.

  31. 31.

    Mag

    @Joseph A Miller: Absolutely. Vance is part of the reason why the Trumps keep getting away with their crime spree. For examples:

    “Vance is known for protecting elite criminals. Among those he aided are Weinstein, Epstein, Strauss-Kahn, and Donald Jr and Ivanka Trump. Temper your expectations.” — Sarah Kendzior

    “In 2010, Ivanka and Don Jr were nearly indicted for felony fraud. The district attorney who dropped the case — after a hefty donation from Trump’s lawyer — was Cy Vance.” — Sarah Kendzior

  34. 34.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    Things are starting to get interesting. I expect a lot of other Attorneys general may also be asking for those returns now.

    Off topic but after reading the guest post on college financial aid, I will never cease to be amazed that a mook from West Virginia with a talent for righteous political rants and a love of pet rescue has built a blog filled with policy experts of various sort with a side of snark-tastic pot shot takers extraordinaire.

  35. 35.

    RaflW

    Thinking back to the days of his ’16 campaign, and the long-rumored (and believable) notion that the run was a scam to elevate his visibility and that he intended to lose, but then snipe at Hillary for four years of inflated grift, well, this document transfer is a delicious moment.

    After four years of incredible damage after the “dog caught the bumper”, he is about to be in a world of hurt.

    I can’t even imagine (but maybe I’ll try) the howls of rage and deep, deep panic in Mar-a-NoGo. Hah.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack

    @Mag:

    Vance has to move forward. The glare of the public spotlight is too great now. The Trumps et al. can’t fly under the radar to the extent that they did before 2016.

  40. 40.

    Martin

    I would like to say that it’s more than a bit impolite to reject someone’s name and invent a new one for them – just like with pronouns. The court has made it clear he is to be referred to as ‘Individual 1’.

  45. 45.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Mo Salad:

    You’d be surprised how quickly our CPA firm adapted to a virtual office once the pandemic hit. 

    We were talking to an advisor of my org who is a big shot with a national cable company. We asked him when he was looking to get back to “normal”  and he said they had targeted some date in the summer. But, he quickly added, there’s no reason to get back to normal because work from home is working splendidly and it’s saving them a ton of money.

  49. 49.

    Amir Khalid

    @germy:
    Trump is not and never has been a real leader of the party. He’s just leading it the way Rosie Ruiz led the Boston Marathon. It’s damning that anyone in the Republican party believes that that’s all leadership is. ​

  53. 53.

    Ken

    @MattF: Millions of pages… is a lot of pages.

    You have to remember that (assuming the DA is right) those represent at least three sets of books – the ones for his creditors, the ones for the internal revenue, and the real ones. Given the level of corruption we’ve come to expect, there may be others. I wouldn’t be surprised if every loan application had a different set of numbers.

  55. 55.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @zhena gogolia: As someone who has worked from home going on almost a year now, I don’t share your fear. I’m much more productive, in large part because I’m not jacked up all day every day by people in the office requesting that I help them solve their issue because that’s easier than figuring it out themselves.

  56. 56.

    Ken

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I took zhena’s fear to reflect investments in commercial properties. The slow death of malls and brick-and-mortar was bad; having a lot of companies decide they don’t need office space would be much worse.

  59. 59.

    Fair EconomistI

    @James E Powell:

    Every time I quote Sarah Kendzior here, I get scolded.

    Why is that?

    Kendzior claims Pelosi is working for the Russians. Seriously. Either she’s got some screws loose or she’s working for somebody unsavory.

  60. 60.

    Fair EconomistI

    @Just Chuck:

    Isn’t Vance the guy who let Epstein skate in the past? And likely T too?

    Yes, but he has a competitive election coming up this year. He’s in big trouble at the ballot box if he doesn’t have an indictment on Trump filed before the vote.

  61. 61.

    The Moar You Know

    Trump is not and never has been a real leader of the party.

    @Amir Khalid:  I agree.  He’s a fad, a fad that was never that cool to start with and seriously started to go down the toilet in 2020.

    Jim Jordan and the other morons braying obeisance to the former guy are like kids who are still playing with a fidget spinner.  Everyone else is moving on.

  62. 62.

    Fair EconomistI

    @MattF:

    Millions of pages… is a lot of pages. I suspect that someone’s porn stash got swept into the archive.

    My brother once defended a big corporate fraud case, although much smaller than the combination of all of Trump’s operations, and he says there were more than a million pages. Accounting generates lots of paperwork.

  63. 63.

    Another Scott

    @Mo Salad: It does say “millions of pages of records” which one could take to mean that it indeed is already electronic versions of paper copies.

    I assume that if the stuff isn’t digital already, it will be before the end of the week.  (And what financial outfit in the 21st century is going to be working with paper anyway??)

    1 million sheets is 2000 reams @ roughly 5 pounds a ream = 5 x 2000 = 10,000 pounds.

    If there are paper versions at the accountants’ office, presumably they’re under seal now for final integrity checks, if necessary.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (“Just my guess.”)

  67. 67.

    Mag

    @Fair EconomistI: Not quite, she has called into question the donations from Russians, such as Blavatnik, connected to organized crime to the DCCC. She thinks Pelosi isn’t aggressive enough and links the campaign cash as a probable cause. She also believes U.S. institutions have largely failed, for the most part, and cannot be relied to “save” the nation from a dictatorship. In her most recent book, Kendzior documents her assertion that Trump, et al is part of larger international crime syndicate closely tied to Russian oligarchs.

    Her’s what she tweeted regarding Pelosi:
    “I actually never said Pelosi was a Russian asset. I was asked point blank, and said no, she’s not. Her cultists create this rumor to distract from genuine disturbing things Pelosi’s done, mostly involving donors.”

    I’m certain her use of “cultist” won’t be in fashion. Anyway, I don’t read BJ tea leaves so closely that I knew before I posted that she was a pariah here.

    If I had known, I would have found other sources indicating we should not expect great things out of Cy Vance regarding Trump, since Kendzior obviously is distracting from the main message.

  68. 68.

    Baud

    @Mag:

    she has called into question the donations from Russians, such as Blavatnik, connected to organized crime to the DCCC. She thinks Pelosi isn’t aggressive enough and links the campaign cash as a probable cause.

    If true, how would that not make her a Russian asset?

  70. 70.

    Mag

    @Baud: If what’s true? That Blavatnik donated to the DCCC?

    Blavatnik and his wife Emily each donated $124,250 to the DCCC in 2019.

    At the time the Kendzior brouhaha was bubbling, Pelosi hadn’t led the House to impeach Trump and Kendzior was getting impatient.

  71. 71.

    Geminid

    @Ken: One of my landscaping customers made a good living as a corporate consultant and still keeps up, wrote another book last summer. His prediction is that brick and mortar corporate headquarters will inevitably decline because of lessons learned in the pandemic. One lesson was that when people were aggregated in the same place, a lot of time was wasted preparing for and conducting unnecessary  meetings.

  72. 72.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Ken:

    having a lot of companies decide they don’t need office space would be much worse.

    Worse for whom?

  73. 73.

    Baud

    @Mag:

    The accusation, as I understand it, is that Pelosi made decisions about impeachment based on Blavatnik’s concerns, so Blavatnik must have had some concerns relevant to Russian interests.  If that’s all true, Pelosi would be a Russian asser through the intermediary of Blavatnik.

  74. 74.

    Cameron

    I dunno…I’d really rather see him get popped in Georgia.  It would be cute to see him and the rest of the crew out there mowing grass and pulling up weeds and picking up trash by the highway, all under the watchful eyes of a couple folks from the Dept of Corrections.

  75. 75.

    Ken

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Commercial real estate, and whatever slice of my 401K is invested in that.

    However I’m reminded of a story where an inventor was sued to stop use of his invention, and replied “If this is successful, I will open a buggy-whip factory and sue every automobile maker for damaging my income.”

    (Maybe Heinlein? Yes, “Life-Line”; the inventor’s machine predicted the date of a person’s death, and he was sued by insurance companies because people were no longer buying life insurance.)

  76. 76.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Ken: I was actually going to bring up the buggy whip factory example but I didn’t want to appear trite or condescending. But I think we’re probably in a sea change at the moment.

  79. 79.

    Gravenstone

    @Amir Khalid: If enough minions want to call him their leader, then let him be their leader. Who am I to protest if they insist on clinging to that anchor in the middle of the ocean?

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