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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: Wisconsin, Can’t You Do Better Than This?

Open Thread: Wisconsin, Can’t You Do Better Than This?

by Anne Laurie|  March 4, 20215:19 pm| 59 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity

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Couldn't we just stack a couple of trillion dollar platinum coins? pic.twitter.com/TcAF0KSt17

— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) March 4, 2021

Did we ever find out, she asked rhetorically, why RonJon spent July 4th, 2018 in Moscow, meeting with Putin’s assistants?

Is there a challenger who stands a decent chance of ousting this putz?

Because of Ron Johnson, the parliamentarian will likely be reading the entire 628-page COVID relief bill for the next 10 hours.

Although I must say, forcing a woman to suffer the consequences of a Republican Senator’s ignorance is pretty on brand for the GOP.

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) March 4, 2021

Fun fact: The CBO estimated that the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which Ron Johnson supported, would grow the national debt by $1.9T. https://t.co/OgqqGDzybX pic.twitter.com/0mGkQptytb

— Greg Greene (@ggreeneva) March 4, 2021

Long story short, if you didn’t read all that: Sen. Johnson, as holds true on most days ending in ‘y,’ is full of it. But @BenWikler has already proven that, in fine detail — and told us what to do about it. https://t.co/kgylSrmVHh

— Greg Greene (@ggreeneva) March 4, 2021

Sen. Michael Bennet: "I wish Ron Johnson would use his time to explain to Trump voters that the election wasn't stolen … That'd be a good use of 10 hours of Ron Johnson's time. But instead we're in a locked-down Capitol and he's forcing the staff … read a bill." @MSNBC

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 4, 2021

A few minutes into the clerk's reading of the bill, most senators have filed out of the chamber, including Ron Johnson, who objected to waiving the reading. Just three remain.

Johnson had mostly been on his phone, stopping briefly to chat with Collins, Manchin and Portman.

— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) March 4, 2021

MSNBC: "So Jake Sherman, what's the thought process behind the Senate's delaying tactics of forcing a reading of the bill?" Sherman:"Let's remember that this is Ron Johnson so there is NO thought process involved."

— Steve (@s_vickman) March 4, 2021

New — Ron Johnson in the thick of it as he weighs his future

"I'm target number one here," Johnson tells us. "People are out to destroy me"

He's talked to Trump. Also won't back McConnell again for leader

"That's not on the table, no."

w/@arogDC https://t.co/u9bJ6HXdky

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 4, 2021

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  1. 1.

    Woodrow/asim

    March 4, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    Christ, what an asshole.

    Here’s the direct link to the Wisconsin Democratic Party’s fund to get rid of ’em, per above Tweet: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/defeat-rojo?refcode=socialmedia-bwt-eom-feb2021&amount=27&recurring=1

    EDIT: Just did a reoccurring donation myself. The Wisconsin Dems were kick ass last cycle, and did great work with connection with voters not just in the state, but across the country.

  2. 2.

    John Revolta

    March 4, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    Segundo!

  3. 3.

    Mo MacArbie

    March 4, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    Last

  4. 4.

    Old School

    March 4, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    Does Sen. Tammy Baldwin give Wisconsin some points back?

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    “Fighting Bob” La Follette spinning in his grave.

  6. 6.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 4, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @John Revolta: please don’t.

  7. 7.

    craigie

    March 4, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    @Mo MacArbie: Winner

  8. 8.

    Old School

    March 4, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    Looks like Johnson returned to the chambers:

    Andrew Solender

    @AndrewSolender

    Ron Johnson really toughing it out. He’s basically been the only one in the Senate chamber for the last hour as clerks power through the bill. Rick Scott came in briefly to chat. Now Johnson is reading something.

    4:26 PM · Mar 4, 2021 from Washington, DC

  9. 9.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 4, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    IX

  10. 10.

    Spanky

    March 4, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    People out to destroy him? I don’t think he knows what that means, but I’m willing to help educate him.

  11. 11.

    Spanky

    March 4, 2021 at 5:37 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: IX-nay.

  12. 12.

    randy khan

    March 4, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    If Johnson leaves for any period of time, some Dem should slip in and ask if there’s any further objection to waiving reading of the bill.  Just for kicks.

  13. 13.

    John Revolta

    March 4, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    I was gonna say that RoJo had at LEAST better stick around for the reading part but I see that didn’t happen. Christ, what an asshole.
    Like the filibuster, they need to change the rule so that if you want to hear a bill read you have to BE THERE to hear it. Maybe make your whole caucus stay too.

    ETA: And now I see he’s back in there. Good. Somebody must’ve called him on the carpet. Asshole.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    In a Johnson measuring contest you come up short, Ron.

    //

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    March 4, 2021 at 5:41 pm

    Wisconsin reelected Scott Walker so Ron Johnson is just being on brand.

  16. 16.

    raven

    March 4, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: It got to be such a big deal on FDL I’d hoped it wouldn’t happen here.

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    March 4, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    First relief bill: $2.2 trillion

    Second relief and funding bill: $2.3 trillion

    United States: forecast for nominal GDP of USD 25.3 trillion in 2024

    If Johnson is going to play with numbers he should put them into some context.

  18. 18.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 4, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    Is this the same Ron Johnson who spent the 4th of July in Mother Яussia?

  19. 19.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 4, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    If you need a distraction this Missouri rancher has a very interesting and entertaining YouTube channel.

  20. 20.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 4, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    Open thread? Just got Moderna shot number one. The NYC website has been pretty easy to use, so if you live there and are having trouble with the state site and happen to see this, couldn’t hurt to check it out. https://vax4nyc.nyc.gov/patient/s/

  21. 21.

    Baud

    March 4, 2021 at 5:56 pm

    @raven:

    People didn’t do it when Trump was president.

    I agree tho, time to put it to rest.

  22. 22.

    dmsilev

    March 4, 2021 at 5:59 pm

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I hope so. Because otherwise there’d be two of them and no state deserves that. No, not even Alabama.

  23. 23.

    Another Scott

    March 4, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    Rhetorically, it was no big deal:

    A top Republican senator shocked his colleagues when he suggested, after returning from a trip to Moscow with fellow GOP lawmakers, that U.S. sanctions targeting Russia were not working and the Kremlin’s election interference was really no big deal.

    Now, the senators who joined him for the series of meetings with senior Russian officials are sharply disputing not only Sen. Ron Johnson’s (R-WI) conclusions—but also his account of what went on behind closed doors in Moscow.

    […]

    Shocked, shocked I say!!1

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  24. 24.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2021 at 6:03 pm

    On Wednesday night, Giuliani got on a pedestal about the dangers of “misinformation” and how it endangers democracy.… Source

    The snark writes itself on this one.

  25. 25.

    Geminid

    March 4, 2021 at 6:04 pm

    Ron Johnson stands out among the wackier Republican Senators if only for representing a purple state. He has not yet announced for reelection, and it looks like Republican Congressman Mike Gallagher (WI-8) intends to run for that Senate seat regardless of Johnson’s decision. At age 37, Gallagher is a young man on the make, and may be tougher for a Democrat to beat than Johnson.                                                                   Gallagher shows up often on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, where he and the host talk about their dream of a really big Navy.

  26. 26.

    bbleh

    March 4, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    Oh please. It’s Marjorie Taylor Johnson. He’s just getting his face on tv and getting the yokel a**holes to cheer for him being a yokel a**hole.

    it ain’t complicated. It can’t be, given who’s involved.

  27. 27.

    NeenerNeener

    March 4, 2021 at 6:13 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: ​ Yay! Good for you. My older sister got her first Pfizer jab in Virginia today too.​

  28. 28.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 4, 2021 at 6:13 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: How about “El Segundo”?

    El Segundo is a city south of LAX best known as the home of the Chevron refinery and LA Air Force Base.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2021 at 6:15 pm

    @bbleh

    Marjorie Taylor Johnson

    So a Greene new deal?

    //

  30. 30.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 4, 2021 at 6:15 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: yeah, I left my wallet there

  31. 31.

    Ruckus

    March 4, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    @John Revolta:

    Nobody talked to him.

    First, why bother? As others have stated, he may not be exactly as dumb as a post, there is the real possibility that he is dumber.

    Second, who would want to talk to him? Anyone? No one?

  32. 32.

    sab

    March 4, 2021 at 6:17 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: As an historian of Balloon Juice, this is normal and you are hyper sensitive

    // I don’t mean this

    Actually I do mean this. Snark to Steve who might countersnark.

  33. 33.

    Old School

    March 4, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    Is anyone following along with the reading of the bill?  Would it be noticed if 10 pages were skipped every now and then?

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2021 at 6:19 pm

    @Major Major Major Major

    Saw it cited recently that an estimated 42% of those who have thus far received shots at the Javits Center reside outside NYC.

  35. 35.

    sab

    March 4, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    @Old School: You follow. We will gladly cheer you on.

  36. 36.

    Woodrow/asim

    March 4, 2021 at 6:21 pm

    @Geminid: Hilariously, there’s a right-wing asshole radio guy who’s also named Mike Gallagher (ugh).

    I know this Gallagher because he’s one of the ones who “converted” when Rush got really popular; his show was hosted out of my home area and I used to call in pre-conversion, in the early 90s.

    …christ, so many assholes.

  37. 37.

    HinTN

    March 4, 2021 at 6:21 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m with @raven:, it got stupid at FDL and it’s tiresome here.

    / grump

  38. 38.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 4, 2021 at 6:23 pm

    @NotMax: it’s a state site, right? There are city specific and borough specific sites too.

  39. 39.

    Woodrow/asim

    March 4, 2021 at 6:25 pm

    @Ruckus: he may not be exactly as dumb as a post, there is the real possibility that he is dumber.

    If you win votes via stunting — and the current iteration of these assholes do, far too often — then pulling stunts isn’t dumb. There are different kinds of Intelligence; just because Johnston’s comes with some odious, horrific implications doesn’t make it not “smart” for who he is, and the roles he thinks will get him votes.

    The trick is assuming, as a lot of “our side” does, that stunting is the only way to win.

  40. 40.

    Old School

    March 4, 2021 at 6:32 pm

    @sab: I’ll follow twice as closely as Ron Johnson.

  41. 41.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 4, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: This whole “read the bill” came out of the Obamacare vote, when Republicans complained that no one knew what was in the bill since it was so long.

  42. 42.

    cain

    March 4, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    Fellow Oregonians/Northwesters – local news have been reporting that vaccines have been going at a pace of 33k a day this week. Does this seem like a realistic number? It was supposedly 25k a day last week.

    4 days would have vaccinated all of Hillsboro (110k) so I’m wondering if there is any truth to that. I would think that teachers would have cleared the hurdle in a week or so given time and opportunity.

  43. 43.

    Geminid

    March 4, 2021 at 6:54 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: I used to listen to that Gallagher’s show back when he had the morning slot Hewitt now occupies. I heard him emphasizing in 2017 that the alleged Russian propaganda compaign could not have changed a single vote. And I remembered how the year before Gallagher wouldn’t shut up about the rumors that Hilary Clinton suffered from Parkinson’s disease, which were exposed as a Russian plant.                                                               Hewitt is a much slicker, smoother advocate.

  44. 44.

    cain

    March 4, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    @cain:

    Last? (comment)

  45. 45.

    Old School

    March 4, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    @cain: Nope.

  46. 46.

    japa21

    March 4, 2021 at 7:04 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: ​
      I admire your perseverance on this.

  47. 47.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 4, 2021 at 7:14 pm

    @sab: my nightmare will be when someone posts “literally first!”

    @japa21: I am here to serve

  48. 48.

    japa21

    March 4, 2021 at 7:21 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: ​

    @Steve in the ATL: ​
      Specially if they are literally second.

  49. 49.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 4, 2021 at 7:23 pm

    @japa21: omg kill me now!

  50. 50.

    JustRuss

    March 4, 2021 at 7:30 pm

    @cain: I’m at Oregon State U, we had a townhall today with some state health officials.  They said the vaccination rate has been constrained by supply problems, but that they’re seeing supply ramping up significantly.  I didn’t think we’d see that much improvement so quickly, but those numbers could be real

    I’ll add that I volunteered at a vax center last week, and with the personnel on hand we could have vaccinated a lot more people if we’d had more vaccine.  So if more vaccine is coming in, I can believe it’s getting used.

  51. 51.

    Mousebumples

    March 4, 2021 at 7:33 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: I started up a monthly donation to them after we (Wisconsinite here) won in November.

    They did great work. Time to support them and keep it going.

  52. 52.

    Pooh

    March 4, 2021 at 7:50 pm

    A lot to shake out as far as the Dem field here (also Wisconsonite) but Gallagher is the guy who has People Here Who Know Things the most worried because he’s better able to present as an actual human being.

     

    ETA: Wikler is a gd boss, he did a lot of great stuff for November.

  53. 53.

    cain

    March 4, 2021 at 8:43 pm

    @Old School: ​
     
    Dammit!

  54. 54.

    cain

    March 4, 2021 at 8:45 pm

    @JustRuss: ​
    I’ll add that I volunteered at a vax center last week, and with the personnel on hand we could have vaccinated a lot more people if we’d had more vaccine. So if more vaccine is coming in, I can believe it’s getting used.

     
    Oh wow, that’s great – I think I would like to spend a weekend and volunteer. I’m not good at jabbing people, but I can help in other ways. Got a link for volunteer opportunities?

  55. 55.

    AnotherBruce

    March 4, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    The Trump inauguration is the smallest one yet.

  56. 56.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    March 4, 2021 at 11:27 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

     

    I work in the city during the week. Drive by the base all the time.

  57. 57.

    NotoriousJRT

    March 4, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    @raven: FDL flashbacks.  I am so in the “let’s not do this” camp.

  58. 58.

    VOR

    March 5, 2021 at 11:33 am

    For The Hill, Morgan Gstalter writes, “The obituary for a Wisconsin woman who died late last month included a simple request: In lieu of flowers, please make a donation to Sen. Ron Johnson’s (R-Wis.) opponent in 2022. Carol Lindeen of Madison died on Feb. 24 in her sleep at the age of 81. The mother of four raised her children to avoid topics like politics and religion at social functions, according to her daughter. However, Laurie Lindeen told The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that her mother has expressed regret later in life over her politeness. Carol Lindeen was reportedly ‘furious’ about Johnson’s recent remarks at a Senate hearing to read unproven claims about ‘provocateurs’ and people pretending to be supporters of former President Trump participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.”

  59. 59.

    JustRuss

    March 5, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    @cain:

    Got a link for volunteer opportunities?

     

    Sorry, no. I got connected through a friend of a friend, don’t know how she got hooked up.

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