Not sure if our haimish BJ jackal-pack is part of the audience for this particular celebration, but just in case y’all need a place to chill on a go-to-bed-early Sunday evening…
YOU LIKE MUSIC? WATCH THIS: @TrevorNoah gets an excellent reason to leave the house, as he hosts this year's Grammy Awards.
FULL STORY by @MrLandrum31: https://t.co/6HrrwvJ8MC pic.twitter.com/TFMjTcpq5J
— AP Entertainment (@APEntertainment) March 13, 2021
Links to E!, Billboard, and People ‘behind the scenes’ livestreams here.
Some cheat tweets:
… Yahoo Entertainment: Before we get into the “Big Four” categories — Album, Record, and Song of the Year, plus Best New Artist — let’s start with a couple obvious questions. The Grammys ceremony was postponed this year, from Jan. 31 to March 14, due to coronavirus concerns. Did this six-week delay affect the voting window at all?
Paul Grein: No, the voting period voting closed on Jan. 4, so anything that happened after that was unknown to the voters. For example, the Jan. 6 insurrection might have conceivably helped politically minded entries like Beyoncé’s “Black Parade.” Or there’s Billie Eilish’s documentary, which is getting great reviews, but that came out long after voting was closed. So, you have to kind of put yourself back in the mindset of what was happening in late December and through early January…
It could be a night for the history books for Taylor Swift and Beyoncé at Sunday’s Grammy Awards — for both good and bad reasons, @MusicMesfin reports. https://t.co/7Y1XjCrSHk
— The Associated Press (@AP) March 14, 2021
Behind-the-scenes at pandemic-ready Grammy Awards https://t.co/C3vwxE9Z0i via @YouTube
— MarceLA ❤️ Isaza (@misaza) March 12, 2021
The Pale Scot
Dua Lipa is always worth a watch
I always enjoy the Grammy awards. They remind me that I am really old and not at all hip. I have asked my wife to euthanize me if I ever say “this isn’t music, it’s just noise” during any of the performances.
Not watching, but I understand that Rachel Maddow has won a Grammy for best spoken word/book narration (not sure what that category is officially called).
I won’t watch, but since this is the year I learned to appreciate Taylor Swift, I’ll be rooting for folklore to win whatever it’s nominated for.
Apparently I also have links to one of the nominees for best Broadway cast album (or whatever it is), so I have some favoritism here….
Not nominated. Not interested.
@Baud: Funny how that works. Was never that interested in the local theatre awards.
Then…the year one of my shows got three nominations, I suddenly became the biggest fan of the show that you ever did see…
If you’re generally out of it when it comes to music then running through all the nominees and tracking down the tracks on YouTube is not a bad way to catch up quickly. Though when I do this with pop music it always seems like it’s hit a rut in the last, say, 15 years or so.
I think you add five years for every decade over your 40s….
The flute is a heavy, metal instrument!
I’m still salty.
I’m not watching but I am interested in some of the awards and I am have faves I’m rooting for.
I’ll see your “behind the scenes at the Grammys” and raise you a drone in a Minneapolis bowling alley. Amazing!
I recently read somewhere that the production of pop music has largely been taken over by algorithms. If it wasn’t here on BJ, I probably saw it on Cracked
And has anyone started a list of people who feel old when they read the Grammy performers and recognize all of three names? If so, please add me.
Here’s what I think of the Grammys. The Beatles never won one.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@guachi: Yeah I try to not be the old guy who says “today’s music sucks” but honestly, today’s music does kind of suck. I was OK until about a half decade ago but since then, yeesh. Part of the problem is that somewhere along the way the band died, at least when it comes to music lots of people actually listen to. It’s all about a handful of producers chasing the hot sound and one performer’s vision. I don’t know why bands died out or exactly when, but they’re gone.
If that’s the case, TUBA ME!
@Benw: As long as Ian Anderson is playing it….Although Tull is hard to pigeon hole, though I get a kick out of the running gag Jack Blades and one of the guitarists of Night Ranger have going in most of their live shows. Guy brings out acoustic guitar and Jack says to the audience you al know this one and the guitar guy does the first couple of bars of Aqualung, Blades says no we are not doing that one.
@Honus: The Beatles won Best New Artist.
Ah, here it is: 5 Reasons All Modern Pop Music Sounds the Same. It even has a section answering What Have The Romans’ question about the end of bands — basically, simpler logistics, and easier branding.
@mrmoshpotato: Speaking of tubas
SciShow – Why Do Humans Have Butts?
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: Bands haven’t died out, they just aren’t promoted for record sales. If you are a solo act you can make some money with records, but for bands the best way to make money is touring and that’s a rough life until you make it big.
That list of performers makes me feel old and in the way…
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: i think the idea of music being created collectively by friends or friends of friends in the neighborhood has died a death. The industry killed it, both via the advancement of technology and greed and even a good dose of self-preservation. They days of a “That Thing You Do” moment appear to be a bygone or a Raspberries ‘Overnight Sensation” because radio as a mechanism for delivering music to the masses is no longer a “thing”.
Have to admit, one of my “win the lottery” fantasies was to buy a local radio station and simply play the music i wanted, with the appropriate cuts to the artists, ‘natch; and not worry about advertisers or ratings.
The best thing ever at the Grammys was Metallica coming out and cranking Enter Sandman in ‘91 and seeing all the tuxedos going WTF, later in that show Queensryche did Silent Lucidity. I actually taped it, I doubt the Grammies have even come close to that since…
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
As one of the old guys who was in the LA Studios (circa 70s-80s) I had to kind of agree. I’m on the back end of a lengthy career and I find myself working alone with self created tracks most of the time. Nobody can afford a band anymore. And when’s the last time you saw a saxophonist win a Grammy? Or any other instrumentalist? It’s all singers all the time. I run into young people constantly who say, “ i’m in the music business“. “ What do you do?“ “ i’m a producer.“ OF COURSE YOU ARE. You know how to operate a fucking drum machine. Wouldn’t know an F7 chord if it bit you in the ass. But hey, times change… not always for the better.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
For the last 10 years, for the most part, folk indie pop has seemed to dominate Top 40 radio imo. It’s OK. I like a few acts, like Imagine Dragons, Mumford and Sons, etc, but I really do miss the music of the late 90s and early-to-mid 2000s. I suppose it might have something to do with nostalgia, but I miss rock bands that sounded like Blink-182
Yeah, there are no more guitar heroes, the kids probably wouldn’t even care if the next SRV started jamming in their house,
I hope blues comes back again before I die, I missed the real SRV so I would love to see the next one.
In “So You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star: How I Machine-Gunned a Roomful of Record Executives and Other True Tales from a Drummer’s Life” Jacob Slichter, the drummer for Semisonic, recounts how they closed the Grammy’s with their one hit “Closing Time”. He recounts that it was a huge thrill to be able to perform in front of so many of his music idols. They were playing the song when the TV broadcast ended and they just shit the power and they stood on the stage looking like fools. So you wanna be a rock and roll star!
@S. Cerevisiae: I had a buddy who went to see him and he said “he was great but he only played one song. . .for three hours’!
Major Major Major Major
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): plenty of good rock in other countries!
In 68 I went to see Jeff Beck with Rod Stewart, Nikki Hopkins and Ron Wood. They were awesome and payed the Truth album. PG&E opened for them and this cat blew Beck off the stage.
Glenn Schwartz: The Fall And Salvation Of The White Hendrix
By Jeff Stevenson (Classic Rock) October 30, 2015
With James Gang and Pacific Gas & Electric, Glenn Schwartz was set to be one of the great guitar heroes of the 70s – but then he was lost to a horrific religious cult. This is his story
@piratedan: Billie Eilish is really talented and recorded her first album in her childhood bedroom.
But what I’m really watching for is the lifetime achievement award for the best American band ever, Talking Heads.
By the way the most rocking album of 2020 is easily The Symbol Remains by Blue Öyster Cult, these tracks could be on Agents or Secret Treaties, if you like BÖC you need to get this.
I don’t mind current music, but I don’t find too many current songs to be memorable. Hard to see what becomes “classic.”
@raven: go find the 82 ElMocambo show on YouTube, the guitar plays him…
@mrmoshpotato: You want to speak to a Mr. Opus Croakus, in that case…
Watched the first 20-25 minutes. Didn’t know any of the songs or artists. I didn’t think I was too old to like new stuff, but maybe I am.
Switched to streaming Amber Ruffin.
The Thin Black Duke
There’s always good music to listen to. It was true back then, and it’ll be true in the future. Problem is, it’s harder to find than it used to be.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Doc Sardonic: Yeah, I know there still are bands. They just don’t get big anymore and make the pop charts.
@S. Cerevisiae: Of course there are guitar heroes out there, probably more than ever before. And easier to find than in the pre-web days.
E.g. https://youtu.be/z1BBxldXiKE – some women and girls shredding.
Villago Delenda Est
Delivery kid: “Here’s that champagne you ordered, Mr. Simpson.”
Homer: “Oh, right.” (Homer reaches into pocket, finds nothing). “Here” (hands delivery kid a Grammy)
Delivery kid: “Wow, an award statue! Oh, it’s a Grammy” (delivery kid tosses Grammy off balcony)
Man on street: “Hey, don’t throw your garbage down here!” (Man on street tosses it back, Grammy hits Homer on head)
When was this? The 1930s?
There has been a long history of a music industry. Even a crooner like Bing Crosby in the 1930s was not just a kid singing in the neighborhood. The Beatles may have been local kids from Liverpool, but they honed their skills not just in Liverpool but as touring professionals in Hamburg.
In America, the Beach Boys moved out of their home and into a studio as fast as they could, and professional producers, arrangers and musicians have been a part of the industry since the modern recording era.
I like music and I like the Grammys. Working at a university helps me keep up with newer music and I like a lot of it.
In other news, my sister has a friend who is volunteering to help people get their Hanes and he was finally able to get me an appointment for my first on Friday. I am giddy at the prospect, I have to say.
@S. Cerevisiae: Oh you don’t have to tell me, my friend was just a newby.
@Another Scott: well maybe it’s less anyone is still jamming and more like nobody cares, killer guitar jams have become a niche, nobody will ever rule the world again…
And Bruno Mars has killed it with his Little Richard tribute.
Autocorrect? Or am I as hopelessly outdated at vaccine slang as at pop music?
I had to work in the dining hall while he played at my college’s spring fling. No one came into the dining hall the entire time – except SRV and the band. He invited me and my friend Gene (the only other person who had to work during the concert) and we had a really nice time talking. He seemed genuinely interested in our lives and what we were studying.
When my friends tried to rub it in about how great the concert was, they didn’t expect to hear that we had lunch with him.
James E Powell
Back in Cleveland in the late 80s, early 90s, you could see Glen Schwartz on regular basis in small dive bars. He was amazing. Incredible slide player. From time to time he’d launch into these extended rants that were a mix of fundamentalist Christianity and bizarre conspiracy theories.
Fucking autocorrect. Jab, it was supposed to be jab.
@James E Powell: Yep, I’m sure you know he was in the James Gang too. When I saw him it was just fuckin stunning.
@S. Cerevisiae: I get what you are saying, that there’s little common mass popular culture because everything is so fractured these days. But, really, it’s just that it’s not on the radio or Saturday afternoon TV now. It’s on the web.
And it’s worldwide. Remember Psy’s Gangnam Style. That’s #7 on the most viewed list now…
@Brachiator: The Wrecking Crew!
@Baud: And if awarded, you will not accept.
@mrmoshpotato: Deathtongue rulez!
When is Nickleback going to be on?
@Honus: And Christopher Cross won 5 in one year.
@geg6: That I want to see. Little Richard rocked, for sure.
I guess I am getting sentimental in my old age, but I tuned in to the Grammys expecting to spew snark and sarcasm. But I’ve been blown away by the quality of the performances – especially the tribute to the artists we’ve lost this year. So, I’m taking rest of the night off from cynicism and enjoying the performances. Although I still don’t get Taylor Swift.
@Almost Retired: I remember everything
@Doc Sardonic: that’s awesome!
Mike in NC
@Ken: I recognized two names because they appeared in my wife’s People magazine. Taylor Swift and somebody else.
I only listen to the radio in my car (classic rock).
My second cousin Sarah Kinzer is in an indie rock band and they released a new album this weekend!
if you like indie rock, please check them out!
Wonderful documentary about them. Same title, I believe.
Also recently came across a similarly wonder documentary on YouTube, about the studio “Muscle Shoals.”
And Motown must always get its due.
James E Powell
Yes, though I never saw him with them. It’s one of those essential facts about Cleveland rock history that every native is expected to know. I’ve only met a handful of people who have ever heard of him.
smedley the uncertain
When I sat down to get caught up on Facebook this morning, the “People you may know” bar included Adrian Quesada, guitarist for Black Pumas (and Grupo Fantasma, Brownout, etc.) Kinda blew my mind. I looked to see what mutual FB friend we supposedly have, and it turned out to be a studio engineer acquaintance of mine. Well, I guess that’s life in Austin.
Record companies controlling musicians, which records get played, and ruining the careers of any aspiring band or singer that defied them has a very long history, with lots of scandals that made it to the news media of the day.
I’m not a big fan of social media, but there is no denying that social media has enabled many, many artists to make a career communicating directly with the listening public.
Who’s Taylor Swift?
Forget killing Hitler; I’m using the time machine to kill the son of a bitch who invented auto-tune.
@Almost Retired: I’m with you, I know basically none of the artists I’ve seen so far (ok, I’d heard of Harry Styles), but overall I’m enjoying it.
Do you need a minion? I’m here for the mission.
Not watching (because Food Network competition shows), but saw in the list of awards that John Prine had won a pair, and sniffled a bit.
Major Major Major Major
I recognize maybe three of the bands performing. So it’s another year of shaking my remote at the screen and shouting old man things.
If Cole would do a track list every week I could maybe get my itunes or spotify AI to do useful things.
@cckids: Do I need a minion? Hell no, I need a super villain to show me the ropes.
@different-church-lady: We had this discussion last week. Tampering always leads to an even worse timeline. Like, you get rid of autotune, but find that music instead adopted a microtonal system with 19 pitches in the octave.
Mickey Guyton – Black Like Me was new to me. She is a black woman who was nominated in the country category.
The Grammies led some people to wonder “What if WAP existed when Glee existed?” Since the internet exists, someone had already done that, and I am pretty sure this is a hate crime.
@cckids: “I’M MY PARENTS! I’M MY PARENTS!!”
Compared to auto-tune THAT SOUNDS AWESOME!!!
@different-church-lady: Damn. I’ll ask my Vegas buds, maybe they know a guy.
Billy Strings won best bluegrass album, so I didn’t need to know anything else. He’s a great guy and an amazing talent.
@cckids: Look, maybe we just go and figure it out when we get there. Could be messy, lots of collateral damage, but it’d be worth it.
@different-church-lady: Done deal. History will thank us.
I’m enjoying the show. Hearing a lot of new stuff (well, it’s ALL new to me, since music isn’t my thing), and the pacing is rapid (which I like).
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
I’m officially old – I recognized exactly five names from the ad, two of them were from commercials, and one from political activism. But I celebrate the celebration of music, it brings joy to life.
Microtonal-19 is a pretty good microtonal. Good chords and a kinda-usable 7th harmonic. Scales are weird, though. I’d happily listen to 19-tone to get away from autotune. Now 14-tone or 16-tone, yuck.
The Pale Scot
I can’t say I’ve ever heard any of music except for this Tiny Desk concert, She’s an impressive woman
@Ken: So basically the I-Pop invasion from Indonesia, with synth-gamelan-backed boy bands.
The Pale Scot
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
No clubs to practice, get tight and hash out a sound. Raising the drinking age to 21 closed a lot affordable clubs
Most arena productions are more like a broadway musical with 200 dollar tickets in the cheap seats. (Just like MLB did, moving all the games to TV prime time lost the next generation of fans. No more conning your older brother to get you a case so the guys could spend summer vacation watching double headers in the afternoon before the parents come home.) Now going to a show is a project. Real music equipment prices outpace inflation. No gig income = no money for equipment
Just like the Doo-Wop bands in the 50’s, Rap and punk in the 70’s-80’s, eventually people who want to make music find a way they can afford. All you need is a turntable, a mic, a half decent computer and pirated software.
The Pale Scot
Thank for leading me to Yugoslavian turbo-folk, Oh is this going to annoy my new, loud , neighbors
Edited for clarity
@Ken: Obligatory – https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Unwanted_Song
I have that CD. Still.
Late to the show, but “The Beatles” won eleven Grammys, and thirteen of their records/songs have been inducted into the Grammy hall of fame.
At least that is what Wicki tells me.