A female commissioned Army officer has accused Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY-23) of inappropriate touching. The details are not good for old Tom:
Nicolette Davis said she was 25, on her first networking trip as a junior lobbyist for an insurance company, when she felt the 45-year-old congressman’s hand on her back. She and other lobbyists had gathered at an Irish pub in Minneapolis after a day of ice fishing, Davis told The Washington Post, and Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y) was seated to her left.
“A drunk congressman is rubbing my back,” she texted a friend and co-worker at Aflac that evening in 2017, adding later, “HELP HELP.”
Reed, his hand outside her blouse, briefly fumbled with her bra before unhooking it by pinching the clasp, Davis told The Post. He moved his hand to her thigh, inching upward, she said.
Frozen in fear, she said, she asked the person sitting to her right for help. He obliged by pulling the congressman away from the table and out of the restaurant, Davis said.
Davis’ account is supported by a person who was at the table that night.
Reed represents the Southern Tier of New York, which is a combination of Pennsyltucky-style rural areas, Finger Lakes wine country, and the very liberal Ithaca area. That Post story goes on to say that Reed was thinking about a run for Governor in New York. That rates a hearty chuckle from me. A Southern Tier Republican is dead on arrival for that job.
Part of the story of Reed running for Governor is that New York is facing a redistricting and we’re going to lose seats, how many is not yet clear. Reed’s district was re-drawn to include Ithaca last redistricting, which in theory should have made it more gettable, but it still hovers in the R+6 range. The next re-districting might either make the district less Republican, or it might combine it with NY-26, which means that Reed would have to challenge Republican Chris Jacobs for the seat. In other words, Tom might as well have taken a shot at Governor because his career as Member of Congress could well have been over prior to the harassment charge.
So, as with all New York politics of late, that brings us to Mario’s kid. The latest on Andrew is that the former Secretary to the Governor (a big deal job), who was called back to help with the vaccination rollout, made “are you loyal” phone calls on Cuomo’s behalf to county officials. And, now that the knives are out for Cuomo, women are coming forward to document a culture of harassment in Albany that included, but went far beyond, Cuomo.
The interesting thing about Cuomo is that Republicans want him to quit, but not because of the sexual harassment. They want to make it all about his COVID response, as a whatabout to own the libs whenever the pathetic performances of the numbskulls in Florida and Texas are mentioned. The less interesting thing is that this stubborn mofo isn’t going to quit anytime soon.
Just Some Fuckhead
Molesting women makes him more credible for the governor job, right?
Roger Moore
In this case, of course interesting ≠ surprising. They want him to quit because he’s a Democrat, but they don’t want to spread the message that there’s anything wrong with sexual harassment.
Ken
I’m starting to think the ancient Romans, Chinese, Persians, etc. were on the right track in using eunuchs.
Mike in NC
@Just Some Fuckhead: A prerequisite for a male Republican, is it not?
laura
God I’m sick of men this week. Just sick to fucking death of them. Every handsy sex pest in the entirety of my life, school, workplace, “friends” and family comes rushing back as though it were yesterday. Ask any/every girl and woman – she’s got stories of her unwanted experiences too.
Yutsano
@Just Some Fuckhead: Wait…so I’m doing this all wrong? Instead of treating women respectfully I need to be slapping butts under skirts? No wonder my non-existent political career hasn’t gotten anywhere!
germy
Ex-wife of Trump Org executive has spoken to investigators ‘multiple times’
“Ex-wife speaks” are the most terrifying words in the world to every Republican.
JoyceCB
@laura: Every woman has at least one Squid in her life – the guy with eight hands. Every time you manage to brush one away another one starts groping somewhere else.
germy
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-poised-announce-first-wave-nominations-reshape-u-s-courts-n1261414
Ken
@germy: Is that because they also signed the tax returns?
And, if it’s so dreaded, why do so many Republicans make every effort to accumulate ex-wives?
scav
@Yutsano: Bet your ascent of the management ladder hasn’t been overly swift either.
Anoniminous
Reuters is reporting Proud Boys leaders Ethan Nordean of Washington, Joseph Biggs of Florida, Zachary Rehl of Pennsylvania and Charles Donohoe of North Carolina are being charged with conspiracy in relation to the Washington attack. Since they solicited funds in order to cross state lines so they could commit a felony and a murder was a direct result of that ….
Seems to me they be in deep trouble.
(Note: IANAL )
germy
@Ken:
Abusive authoritarians don’t usually mate for life.
CliosFanBoy
@JoyceCB: I heard it as “Russian hands and Roman fingers.”
germy
JoyceCB
@CliosFanBoy: Yup. And they can not conceive just how unwelcome they are.
Sure Lurkalot
@Mike in NC: I’m sorry to say that such behavior is not limited to Republican men. Or even outwardly creepy men. It happens when your radar anticipates it and when it does not. From people you like(d) and respect(ed) (and thought you knew) right before.
Brachiator
This could hardly be a startling revelation. The question is, what can be done about it? You can focus on a few individual malefactors until the cows come home, but this won’t necessarily change anything.
germy
smith
As several commenters above have noted, pretty much every woman has experienced something like this. These creeps are very, very common and probably have indulged in this behavior for so many years that it’s a habit that they don’t even focus on. In other words, the creeps probably don’t even remember what they’ve done, but the women never forget. I am amused to think that at least some of them might be paying attention to the various Downfalls of the Creeps playing out before them, and lying awake at night trying desperately to recall which of their many offenses might rise up from the past and take them down.
Skippy-san
The fact that she is an Army reservist is not relevant to this discussion. She was not on active duty at the time – so she is the same as any other civilian who got unwanted attention.
Steeplejack (phone)
A righteous rant from the Buttercream Dream. “‘Y’all’ means ‘all.’ Skeew!
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Wonder what Greenwald, Taibbi, Tracey et al will do when Substack finally folds?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Why, join Gab of course! Or Parler
Yutsano
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): But they’re BOOOOORING. It turns out a conservative echo chamber isn’t fun if you can’t pwn the libz all the time.
Ken
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I suppose that’s more probable than that John will make them front-pagers. Though they might get a larger audience on this nearly-top-10000 blog.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Today, he is very approving of Silberman’s pro-GOP crazy dissent (the one that called for NYT vs Sullivan to be overturned).
He is also very grudgy about David Miranda being seen as a useless boy-toy under Glenn’s thumb.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
He can’t get paid for writing diatribes on those.
germy
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Patreon. That’s what James Kunstler did, when universities stopped inviting him to give lectures on peak oil and suburbanism.
Anyway
Out of the loop here – what’s going on with Substack? And Bari Weiss – where will she land?
The Moar You Know
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yeah…Glen, he doesn’t work for free. Ever.
He’ll end up on RT or Sputnik.
WereBear
And now I’m having those Martha Mitchell flashbacks from Watergate. What she claimed sounds so much more plausible now…
germy
On her feet. As always.
Jay
germy
Boebert is on to us:
https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2021/03/promoting-qanon-linked-conspiracy-boebert-says-resignations-will-soon-allow-gop-to-control-congress/35257/
germy
@Jay:
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Yes, but the thing is most women say this happened back in the 90s and not so much these days. It is like things like politics, policing and entertainment have been frozen at 1965 while rest of society moved on.
And I will point out, it isn’t just the women who suffer grief at the hands of these creeps. As with the Cuomo scandal the first accusation against Cuomo was from a male state assembly member Cuomo threatened. This is disgusting, brutish behavior from a-holes drunk on power and not just some boys will be boys thing.
oatler.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/19/white-house-staffers-ousted-marijuana-477166
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Yutsano:
Too true. I still laugh when I remember the CEO of Gab of was boasting about Trump being on the platform and it turns out it was just some account that was created so his name wouldn’t be taken by somebody else; literally a placeholder. Then his and the fake Trump account were compromised by hackers lol
Going off on a slightly related tangent. I remember seeing an SNL skit after the Insurrection and the all of the banning/deplatforming of violent right-wing extremists on social media.
It was a talk show and the host interviewed various people and the jokes revolved around how American institutions no longer work. “Zuck” and “Jack Dorsey” were brought on and the fake Dorsey said something about how things weren’t going well because the deplatforming meant that extremists could more easily hide now from public view. And this was supposed to be funny. SNL pulled the same bullshit with making a “Haha Biden is Mr. Rogers!” joke back after the debates.
I mean, WTF were Twitter and Facebook supposed to do? Let them continue spewing misinformation and violent, racist rhetoric? Twitter and Facebook are not above criticism but this is asinine. Stephen Colbert making a “Little girls can bomb Syria now when they grow up too” joke a few weeks back about the new female generals being sworn in also qualifies
Is this supposed to “biting” political satire? The only explanation I can think of other than the producers and writers being hacks is that they’re trying to appeal to the widest audience possible and this results in appealing to the lowest common denominator. However, comedians like Seth Myers on late night TV are funnier and actually seem to have a clue, so it’s not that
Jay
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Gonna need to see a source for these claims. I don’t think sexual harassment ended in the 1990s. Remember Matt Lauer, Weinstein, etc? Unless I’m misunderstanding you
VOR
@Jay: This is the part you’d have a hard time explaining 30 years ago. In a debate between the President of the United States and the leader of Russia, people who claim to be uber-patriots are openly cheering for the leader of Russia. Good lord.
VeniceRiley
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Yeah I blinked at that comment as well. What the actual.
Roger Moore
@Anyway:
There has been a kerfuffle about Substack cutting deals with some of their big name writers without publicizing it. Basically, their standard procedure is for writers to get paid by the subscriber, with Substack taking a cut to run the site. But a few of the big names who moved there got a deal for their first year where they get a negotiated payment in exchange for Substack getting all the subscriber revenue.
Some of the writers who didn’t get those deals are upset because they think Substack used those big name writers’ presence on the platform as an implicit promise that it was a good way of making money even though they were getting a completely different deal. Some of the writers have been pretty up front about the deal they’re getting- Matt Yglesias has said exactly how much he’s getting paid- but I can see why someone who didn’t get the deal would be upset.
James E Powell
@VOR:
That’s because right-wingers see the rest of us as their real enemies, the ones who want to get rid of them. And you know what? We are.
smith
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
This probably reflects the typical age range of your women acquaintances more than the actual extent of sexual harassment.
From the https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-accusations-york-gov-andrew-cuomo-calls-resignation/story?id=76207242 ABC News timeline of allegations against Cuomo:
The thing I see changing from years gone by is that women are not punished quite so severely now for complaining about it.
Starboard Tack
@germy:
Blobert voted against condemning the coup in Myanmar, along with Ken Buck and 12 other Republicans.
James E Powell
@laura:
Yeah, same here. The urge to say #NotAllMen is overcome by the knowledge that it’s #ALotofEnablers
Instead of calling it cancel culture, we should call it done with this shit culture.
I saw the story where the Teen Vogue editor resigned over tweets she did when she was a teenager. I feel for her, I really do. But if the message to teenagers is “racism, misogyny, and homophobia are wrong, so don’t post that stuff or it will hurt your future” then good.
James E Powell
@Starboard Tack:
Republican dogma: right-wing coups, good. People being able to vote, bad.
Cheryl Rofer
@Roger Moore: There’s a subplot that gay and trans writers have been a big part of Substack and moved it along, while now the people being given the big bucks are gender bigots – Greenwald, Sullivan, and others.
RSA
@Skippy-san:
From what I read, she’s regular Army.
Ken
@Starboard Tack: How much overlap with the ones that voted against the medal for the capitol police?
Brachiator
@germy:
Conservatives used to argue that you shouldn’t elect elitists to public office. You know, people who had an education.
Now, with Boebert, conservatives have lowered the bar even further. They appear to believe that insane people should be elected to public office.
laura
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Yes, but the thing is most women say this happened back in the 90s and not so much these days.
Just stop, please. Mansplaining misogyny and opining on most women and back in the day is the opposite of helpful.
germy
@Brachiator:
Marjorie Taylor Greene now explains that she did not intend any anti-Semitic connotations. “I didn’t even know and didn’t find out until recently that the Rothschilds were Jewish,” she tells Ami magazine.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@germy: I have no idea what the woman is talking about
laura
germy
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
We don’t speak fluent wingnut.
Yutsano
Going OT but: paging Schrödinger’s kitteh…
Modi’s getting worse. (WaPo)
Ken
@germy: “I just insulted the Rothschilds because, well, it’s something I heard all the time growing up, and never really asked or wondered why everyone said they were subhuman money-grubbing parasites.”
Obligatory link.
Roger Moore
@Cheryl Rofer:
I hadn’t gotten that part, probably because my lens on the business is admittedly pretty narrow. In general, I think Substack is a decent idea, and I don’t have a big problem with them giving some big name writers a special deal. I do think it’s questionable that they’ve been secretive about giving big names a different deal from the rest of their writers, and it’s a big flashing warning sign that so many of the big name writers they’ve been working to attract need the work because their scumminess got them driven out of mainstream media.
Starboard Tack
@Ken:
From @kristin_wilson
Myanmar
Lauren Boebert
Andy Biggs (Both)
Matt Gaetz (Both)
Tom Massie (Both)
Ken Buck
Mary Miller
Chip Roy
Jodey Hice
Alex Mooney
Scott Perry
Andy Harris (Both)
Ted Budd
Barry Moore
Marjorie Taylor Greene (Both)
Capitol Police
Biggs
Massie
Harris
Gooden
Gaetz
Cloud
Clyde
Greene
Gohmert
Steube
Good
Rose
Gravenstone
@germy: How about that Soros fella? Does she know about him too?
Roger Moore
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
One of the big things that QAnon has been on about since the very beginning is that a whole bunch of important people- primarily but not exclusively Democrats- are going to be arrested real soon now. She’s doing more of the same. They’ve been promising arrests real soon now for years. You’d think they would have figured out it wasn’t going to happen. I swear, these QAnon loons are like one of those doomsday cults that kept having to recalculate the date of Armageddon because it never arrived on schedule.
Brachiator
@germy:
So she is either incredibly stupid or a liar.
Not sure which she would prefer to be known as.
smith
@Roger Moore: Speaking of Qanon Doomsday, wasn’t March 20 the most recent date on which Joe Biden will peel off the mask and reveal that he was Donald Trump all along? And then the arrests, etc. That’s tomorrow! Are we all ready for it?
germy
@Gravenstone:
Thinks he’s Irish.
MagdaInBlack
@Dorothy A. Winsor: The fact that she references “Epoch Times” tells me all I needed to know ( that I didn’t already) about that dimwitted bobblehead.
Ken
@Starboard Tack: Thanks, I’ll add that to my Venn diagram.
Mike in NC
Reading a book called “The Apprentice: Trump, Russia, and the Subversion of American Democracy” by Greg Miller. In one chapter he quotes a guy close to Putin who was hoping for two terms for the Orange Clown, followed by two terms for Ivanka, then two terms for Jared Kushner. Can you spell Dystopian Hellscape?
West of the Rockies
@germy:
Righteous is such a foul word when used by evangelical types: it’s rage, resentment, judgment, and intent to commit or condone violence against somebody.
Skippy-san
@RSA: Then how can she be on a lobbying trip? You can’t be a regular officer and be junior lobbyist for an insurance company. It’s a major conflict of interest – and against the Hatch Act.
JanieM
@Mike in NC: Could someone who believed that know anything at all about the US? Or did they think their machinations would succeed at installing this dynasty of malevolent clowns?
(Rhetorical question.)
JanieM
@Skippy-san:
WaPo headline: “Former lobbyist accuses Rep. Tom Reed, a potential Cuomo challenger, of sexual misconduct”
“Nicolette Davis, now a commissioned officer in the U.S. Army….”
Brachiator
@Mike in NC:
Nothing for Don Jr?
I guess even the Russians have their limits.
Ken
It’s always tomorrow. Qanon is definitely a “jam tomorrow” group.
Benw
Let’s go, Jackets!!
Martin
@JanieM: I think they knew a fascist when they saw one. Shame most Americans can’t.
Kent
They are not mutually exclusive as Trump has shown us.
Skippy-san
@JanieM: My point still stands – it’s not relevant to the issue at hand. Whether she is in the Army or not does not make her any more or less credible.
schrodingers_cat
@Yutsano: He has always been terrible.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Skippy-san:
All is explained in the linked story. The incident happened in 2017. “In 2020, she left AFLAC to pursue a lifelong dream and enlist in the Army.”
Gin & Tonic
@Steeplejack (phone): Nobody says RTF(M|A) anymore. Sad.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Ken: Men like that consistently underestimate the women in their lives.
JanieM
@Gin & Tonic: Among other things that people could say in these circumstances.
OGLiberal
Our PA house is very near the Southern, Southern Tier and find it weird that it’s so wingnutty. But then most of my exposure is going shopping in the Greater Binghamton area, which seems very diverse, relatively speaking. Not many black people, like most of that region, but many South Asians/East Asians. Suppose that’s the University and huge hospital network at play. But, yeah, you can go not that far from Binghamton and it’s Confederate and Trump flags, which is jarring for somebody who spent most of his life in an area where New York plates symbolized something much different.
IBM and defense industry used to be huge there. Corning still a big presence. And Johnson City was the land of the “square deal”. Weird thing about the area? Lots of public carousels. A lot less now than in the past but a number are still there in various parks.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Gin & Tonic:
I was mentally biting my tongue.
Omnes Omnibus
@Skippy-san:
RTFA
Heidi Mom
I got the first shot today (Moderna). Just like getting a flu shot, but a different Rite-Aid. I would like Samwise, please — he looks like a gray kitty I lost too soon.