That was really, really weird. I went to bed around midnight, and, as you can see by my post in the middle of the night, just sat bolt upright like I had slept for 12 hours and had a breakfast of crystal meth, cocaine, and death wish coffee. Just WIDE THE FUCK awake. And ravenous. Just starving.
I had some flu like aches and pains, so I took some tylenol (avoid NSAIDS, yo), and went downstairs and did what normal people do at 3 am. I made some eggs, bacon, and toast. Watched some netflix (the documentary about the Varsity Blues scandal), and around 5:30 went back to bed after feeding Steve. Slept until about ten am.
Right now I feel fine, just a little achy around the injection site, but I am tired and just feel sort of blah.
Bodies are weird.
Low Key Swagger
Trying not to anticipate problems when I get my second Moderna shot.
cmorenc
Anecdotally, we who got Pfizer 1 &2 seem to have experienced fewer and less acute after-side effects of the vaccine than those who got Moderna. Is that consistent with your experience / familiarity with others’ reports?
WaterGirl
@Low Key Swagger: It’s a total crapshoot, so there’s no point in anticipating. My personal theory is that the side effects get you where you’re weakest. After my second shot, I got shooting pains in the ankle I broke 3 years ago, that normally doesn’t bother me.
WaterGirl
@cmorenc: That’s my conclusion, as well.
Brachiator
Bacon, eggs and toast sounds like just the thing for an unexpected wake up.
I am looking forward to my second Moderna shot in a few weeks.
thalarctosMaritimus
After my 2nd Pfizer shot Thursday, I had chills so bad that the shivering woke me up at 3 AM. It took a full half-hour hot shower to stop them. I took a sick day Friday because I was so miserable, but today, I seem to be getting better. Still not well enough to cook Nowruz (Persian New Year) dinner for my pod tonight, though :( — I guess we’ll celebrate Nowruz next weekend instead.
Geo Wilcox
My husband had his second Pfitzer shot and was fine that day. The next he felt off, not enough to make it worth his while to complain (much) and after a couple of Tylenol he was fine.
He can’t start his cancer chemo until he has waited three weeks from the second shot as the chemo interferes with the vaccine.
gwangung
Freshly cooked food sounds like a great all-around response….
Looking forward to my 2nd Pfizer shot…
TaMara (HFG)
Here you go John, some ducklings to brighten your Saturday.
Cheryl Rofer
My experience: The first Moderna shot was a little worse for me than a flu shot – localized ache, no swelling. The second gave me a bit more of the same, plus some ache in lymph node areas up to my collarbone. That was two and a half weeks ago. A day or two ago, I had some aches in the same area, although I think they were muscle aches not related to the immunizations. Pretty good today.
Major Major Major Major
Why avoid NSAIDs…? Wasn’t what my injector said.
I have read that the side effects seem to hit younger people a lot harder, so that’ll be fun.
Suzanne
I got #2 yesterday around 4PM and I am freaking weary. On the couch. Not really sick, just wiped.
New Deal democrat
I’ve had the same, weird reaction after both Moderna shots: nothing but some aches and swelling at the injection site for 24 hours, then it goes away.
then, one week later, red blotchiness at the site and an itchy upper arm that lasts several days. Apparently that’s not so uncommon.
JanieM
@Suzanne: That was my reaction to the 2nd Pfizer. Sore arm with both, about half a day of total wiped out tiredness with the 2nd.
bt
This is the first thing I’ve read that matched my Pfizer shot experience. Exactly.
No pain, swelling, redness or fever, but I was a little hyped-up and barely slept on the first night after the shot. It felt like I was on uppers of some sort.
I also got really hungry on that day, after I got the shot.
My defense systems were hard at work is what I assumed. Now I can stop wondering that perhaps I was having some sort of emotional / placebo sort of reaction.
sdhays
I’m just happy that my mom, who will be 65 in August was unexpectedly able to get her first Moderna shot yesterday! Dad got his second shot in February; he didn’t have any side-effects for the first jab (at least none that I heard about), but he was sickly, like having the flu, for the next day or two afterwards.
I can’t believe this is happening so quickly. Like others, I was pretty pessimistic about how much shit had already been baked in for the Biden Administration to clean up before we could see a proper vaccine rollout, but it’s actually plausible that my wife and I, who are at the back of the line (and should be since we have the luxury of working from home) will be able to get vaccinated at the beginning of the summer rather than sometime in the fall or later, as I had resigned myself to.
Suzanne
@JanieM: Yes, arm is sore. It was sore for about three days with #1. This feels similar.
I even had a cup of coffee and I am still yawning and fatigued.
ETA: Moderna
JanieM
@Major Major Major Major: Advice seems to be all over the map on this. My provider said try to avoid taking NSAIDS *or* Tylenol, unless things got really bad. My nurse sister said the advice she/they give is the same. This is the first I’ve heard this in my entire life of getting vaccinated for this and that, but the idea is apparently that the anti-inflammatory effects of NSAIDs can tamp down the body’s immune response.
The CDC says don’t take them before the shot but it’s okay afterwards.
trollhattan
@Suzanne:
That’s how I felt the day after getting Pfizer #2 and will never truly know if it was a direct consequence or because I got no sleep on account of my arm hurting like hell.
Swollen lymph nodes later in the week were an annoyance.
Caught up last night with a group of neighborhood friends & fellow parents–held outdoors. One, an engineer*, proclaimed he will not be getting a vaccine because his immune system has been flawless up to this point in life and he will trust it to continue doing so.
Note to self: do not accept invitations where he will be attending.
*I note the profession because there is a distinct cohort of engineers who hold lunatic notions of nutrition and health. IDK why, but have worked around them for decades.
Uncle Cosmo
@cmorenc: I’m curious as to the volume of the Moderna shots relative to Pfizer. When I got Moderna #1 the inoculator filled up a needle that looked like it was sized for Gojira. Is that large a dose really necessary? (ETA: And he jammed it in so deep the injection site bled.)
CaseyL
Cole – In years past, if you had awakened feeling like you were a mass of unreleased energy, you likely would have embarked on some huge house project, like rip out the deck or start repainting the walls. Do you have a pile of lumber in the back yard? Mysterious deliveries from Home Depot sitting in your driveway?
If not, count your blessings.
Now I’m a little worried about my immunization status – the day after my 2nd shot, I was feeling distinctly feverish and unwell, so I took some aspirin. (If I had been given instructions not to take NSAIDs, I forgot them.) Here’s hoping I didn’t screw up my immune response…
LurkerNoLonger
Your body is acclimating to the nanobots in the vaccine. It will take a few days before you feel normal again. Then you will be a wifi hot spot and get free Windows updates.
sdhays
OT: Holy crap, this one deserves a front page: The Mystery Of $44,000, A Deadbeat, Playboy, And A Stolen Florida Election:
Later on it off-handedly mentions another 3 other sham candidates supported by the same shady companies. Lot’s of shenanigans going on down in Betty and Adam’s neck of the woods.
AliceBlue
Had my first Moderna jab yesterday. There’s some soreness and slight warmth around the injection site, but that’s all so far.
Second jab on April 16.
The Moar You Know
@trollhattan: Frequent issue with people who are very talented and smart about one thing: they assume that because they’re smart about one thing, therefore they are smart about all things.
TRULY smart people know that they don’t know jack shit about much of anything.
Brachiator
@LurkerNoLonger:
I much prefer the wifi hotspot to the prehensile tail.
Thank you, Bill Gates.
kindness
I had a reaction the day after my 2nd shot. Mild headache, achy all over and mild sniffles. I was fine the next day though so well worth doing. I had the Moderna.
Mike J
When I got my second it was cold sweats in the middle of the night, the next day I mostly felt bad because I had so little sleep the night before. Pretty ok after that, except that I seem to have built a shrine to Bill Gates in the middle of the night. Weird.
Mike in NC
Last night we also watched the Netflix pseudo-documentary about rich people spending millions of dollars to get their kids into a particular university. Really didn’t get the whole point, though it was nice to see them make an example of Jared Kuchner as a privileged little shit whose family bought him a place in Harvard.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
My response, when I feel like speaking up, is that I never drive across bridges designed by ophthalmologists and never take medical advice from highway designers.
hells littlest angel
Since when is Tylenol not an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug)?
guachi
I was fatigued after shot #2 without the benefit of having actually exercised, which is what upset me most.
Betty Cracker
My age group will be eligible to get vaccinated in Florida starting Monday — yay! I preregistered, so I just have to wait for someone to contact me with an appointment time and place. The preregistration form allows users to select which type of vaccine they want. I’d prefer J&J so I only have to go get a shot once, but I chose “first available.” Trying to remember the last time I had a shot. More than 10 years ago, at least, possibly 15. I’ve never had a flu shot.
rk
@cmorenc:
My co workers and I all got the Pfizer vaccine. They had varying reactions to the second shot. Only one was so severe that she missed work for two days (fever of 101 and aches). One person went home early a few hours after the shot. My arm ached for 48 hours after the shot, but otherwise I had a milder reaction to the second shot than the first. Most people either had very mild reactions or none.
Ned F.
I’m probably late with this, but Mar a Loco has been partially shut down with Covid-19 infection.
https://www.axios.com/trump-mar-a-lago-close-coronavirus-outbreak-607254d6-fefb-44ac-b109-8af431d4c855.html
Of course it has.
Betty Cracker
@sdhays: Been reading about that in the local dailies. That guy is in a heap o’ trouble thanks to his big fat mouth. Weird how every time someone uncovers real election fraud, the perps are Republicans.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
I work with engineers – and their designs/drawings, and have for decades. Like every other group of humans, some are excellent, some are so so and some are useless. Often they know what they want done but the communication skills to get there they left on Mars before their being beamed here to lower the level of discourse. The reactions over the decades have ranged from mild amusement to major WTF responses with committee meetings. The modern world has helped, we now get the solid models that the drawings come from, we can actually find what we need 99% of the time without 27 phone calls, 5 in person visits and a loss of hair from so much head scratching.
SFBayAreaGal
So what do I see below John’s post, a Zergnet headline that says: “Doctors warn of delayed side effects of Moderna Vaccine”
Another Scott
One for Adam:
(part of this thread – https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1373130109205540867 )
Cheers,
Scott.
Ken
Unfortunately the side effect is unpredictable.
Amir Khalid
@Cheryl Rofer:
I’m glad you’re here. There’s a story I haven’t seen covered by most western media: North Korea has suddenly severed diplomatic relations with Malaysia over the the extradition of a North Korean man, living in Malaysia, to the US. Malaysia has given North Korean Embassy staff 48 hours to leave the country, and I expect Malaysian Embassy staff in Pyongyang are packing their bags too.
You and/or Adam might have some informed comment to share on this.
JanieM
@hells littlest angel:
Since forever. Wikipedia: “It does not have significant anti-inflammatory activity.” Or you can find a plethora of med-related websites that say it’s not an anti-inflammatory.
mrmoshpotato
You mention that like it’s weird.
Cermet
@CaseyL: You didn’t; asprin and other otc-meds are safe to use after the vaccination if one has issues. Might be better to avoid but not going to have any significant effect … or affect(?)
Cermet
@JanieM: Tylenol has a very dark side and would never be approved today due to its very dangerous aspect relative to dose. It is extremely dangerous when even mild overdoses occur (2x to 3x) or if used with alcohol. So, not exactly the best idea to use.
beth
I had a bit of swelling and tenderness in my arm after the 1st Moderna shot, really more of an annoyance than actual pain. I did however spend the whole next day with terrible diarrhea. It is listed as a possible side effect but I haven’t seen anyone else mention having it. Not sure if it was the shot or a coincidence. I’m trying to decide whether to take the day off after my 2nd shot in case it happens again.
JustRuss
Got my second Pfizer on Thursday. Yesterday my arm was a bit sore, felt kind of tired but not terribly, and mentally was a little fuzzy. That was it. Normal today, arm’s not even sore.
sab
@Uncle Cosmo: Are you out of your mind, looking at the syringe before an injection? You are supposed to be looking in the other direction and imagining babbling brooks or something.
Intellectual curiosity is well and good, but don’t overdo it.
Alison Rose
@JanieM: But here’s what I can’t find–how long before the shot should you avoid the medications? I see a million articles saying “don’t take them beforehand” but none that say for how long. 24 hours? 48? A week?
Cheryl Rofer
@Amir Khalid: I haven’t seen anything about that but will keep my eyes open for further developments.
North Korea is quite opaque and hard to figure out. I would like to know what the man was extradited to the US for.
It looks like they are having serious problems with Covid-19, but they say nothing about it. Officially, they have no disease in the People’s Republic.
They unleashed a broadside against the United States this past week, a usual occurrence when the US is doing military exercises with South Korea, which they are doing now.
The Biden administration is mixing things up with North Korea, Iran, and China. I think what they are trying to do is to show that we’re doing things differently now that our president isn’t inclined to cozy up to dictators. Might be confusing for a while.
karensky
@The Moar You Know: omg. So true
Cheryl Rofer
@Alison Rose: Since aspirin and other NSAIDS are short-acting, so 24-48 hours should be plenty. If you take long-acting forms, maybe 48 or a little more.
sab
@SFBayAreaGal: Is Putin involved with Zergnet?
CaseyL
@Cermet: Well, I walked around with a big ol’ grin after the second shot, so maybe “affect” is correct. :) Thanks for the reassurance!
Bunter
@cmorenc: I got the Pfizer on Thursday morning. About an hour later had a massive headache and was ridiculously sleepy all day. Arm didn’t hurt, not even the injection site. Friday I was absolutely fine and same today. Wondering if the second will kick my behind or not.
JanieM
@Cermet: I was just clarifying the NSAID aspect. I didn’t recommend taking it, so I don’t know why you’re flagging me.
My instruction sheet after the shot, however, did in fact suggest Tylenol or an NSAID if I felt extra bad afterwards. The CDC says the same. Take it up with them.
ETA: I’m well aware of the dangers of Tylenol; in fact, I don’t even keep it in my house. But I had a medical problem a couple of years ago that was causing me significant pain, and the doc put me on a regimen of Tylenol and ibuprofen, walking a fine line because too much Tylenol harms the liver, and too much ibu harms the kidneys.
germy
J R in WV
So I had my (we had our) second Moderna shot thursday afternoon about 1:15 in the rural county Primary Care Clinic’s drive thru, since it was a pretty day with occasional thunderstorms. Actual shot went smoothly and painlessly, then learned during our 15 minute wait to check for adverse reactions that the clinic so far since some time in Janurary has had no adverse reactions following the injection requiring any medical intervention.
There are doctors and a pharmacy right there as part of the comprehensive clinic, which even includes a dental shop, if needed, which is always reassuring.
Thursday evening and Friday were both pretty normal but for a widespread tenderness in my injected arm and shoulder. Last night got to bed as normal and read until nearly midnight. This morning wife asked if I could make coffee around 11, after which I immediately went back to bed, fell asleep instantly until just now, so 1:30 or so. Not so tired now, upper arm still sore.
Feeling pretty good, actually, though may do a nap later this afternoon…. I do enjoy sleep more than most, perhaps. Esp now that we’re retired~!!~
ETA: Small green tail is still quite itchy, no pain or suffering though. Hope it becomes useful, itch is annoying! ;~)
Major Major Major Major
@trollhattan: the five most terrifying words in the English language: “trust me, I’m an engineer”
Alison Rose
@Cheryl Rofer: Thanks. My parents get their second shots on Monday, and I wanted to let them know because I think they both take aspirin on a daily basis.
BC in Illinois
Now I’m wondering.
I am scheduled to take the second Pfizer shot on Friday morning at 11.
Saturday morning at 11, I am scheduled to play piano for a small, mostly virtual, funeral of a friend (non-covid death). Mrs BC will be the trumpeter. They played in a church brass group together for several years. For almost the last year, we would go to their house after church on Sunday, sit at a distance in their front yard, talk and play/sing for him and his wife (and occasional others). Missed very few Sundays because of weather.
No matter what I feel like 24 hours after shot two, I’m playing the piano for his service.
dww44
@WaterGirl: My Pfizer experience/aftereffects were also quite subtle. So subtle that I wasn’t aware that what I was experiencing was a vaccine aftereffect until it was referenced in a couple of comments here a couple of weeks back. The proviso that advised against mamograms for 6 to 8 weeks past the 2nd shot. When I figured this out, asked spouse what his side effects were … he just mentioned sore and achy joints. Then I kenned that my slightly arthritic fingers were slightly more so, particularly upon awakening. They still are.
Just Some Fuckhead
I got the second Moderna injection on Friday 3/12. By early Saturday morning, had a 102 degree fever that broke some time Sunday afternoon. Spent last week just exhausted. I could close my eyes and fall asleep anywhere. Just woke up from a 12 hour sleep.
dww44
@Just Some Fuckhead: My 93 1/2 year old friend had the Moderna. We were all expecting her to have some of those flu like symptoms. She had no discernible side effects to include not having a sore arm. Go figure.
James E Powell
Too much work for me. For middle of the night wake up eating I got with whatever leftovers are in the refrigerator that require nothing more than two minutes in the microwave or a bowl of cereal.
I’m almost two days post Pfizer #2 and I haven’t felt anything other than soreness at the injection site. Does saying this make me a vaxhole?
J R in WV
@hells littlest angel:
Not only is Tylenol not an NSAID, for me it is completely inactive in every way, could have just had a Vitamin C tablet for all the good it does. I ignore advice regarding Tylenol except to just avoid it to the maximum extent possible.
Kathleen
@Suzanne: I got my second Pfizer Thursday around 4. Felt OK the rest of the day. Yesterday chills and very tired but worked. Today more chills, more tired and much more lethargic. I had no reactions to the first shot.
J R in WV
@James E Powell:
Me too, usually. I can do cookies and milk, toast and jam w milk, actually cooking, not so much. Chamomile tea I can do, which helps one sleep a bit.
And surf a wee bit waiting for tea or meds to take effect. Enjoy predawn hours, I like the quiet, but for the owls hooting out there in the forest.
JanieM
@Alison Rose: I haven’t seen anything about that either, other than something to the effect that if you take one of these medications regularly, talk to your provider. Since I don’t take anything regularly, I didn’t did further than that. On the one hand it’s maddening that it’s all so vague; on the other, it only confirms my belief that there’s a lot (to put it gently) that we don’t (yet?) understand about the body
ETA: Missed Cheryl’s actually useful reply. Must stop multi-tasking. Any day now.
Another Scott
@Alison Rose: I assume they don’t want people taking meds before the shots because they want to be sure to catch any quick reactions to the injection. IANAMD, but it seems to me that any OTC pain reliever would be fine to take once they let you leave. The mechanism of immunity (killer T-cell production, etc., etc.) shouldn’t be affected by OTC pain relievers.
That’s my understanding anyway. Ask your shooter if you have any concerns. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Soprano2
@WaterGirl: That might explain why my lower back is killing me today, much worse than normal. I’m also pretty tired. Had 1st dose of Pfizer yesterday.
karen marie
@kindness: You people are making me nervous. I go for my first shot Monday afternoon. No idea which brand.
Amir Khalid
@Cheryl Rofer:
From the story I linked to:
Keith P.
I went outside to check on my old, semi-outside cat (she refuses to come inside during spring). Turns out, she found a piece of roofing shingle that fell into the bushes about 5 feet in the air and climbed up onto the thing like a hammock.
satby
@hells littlest angel: it is. The erroneous info about these and the vaccine needs to die a swift death (and is propagated here like a bunch of Trumpies spreading the latest conspiracy theories). Follow the CDC guidelines, which say alleviating symptoms like pain and fever are fine with OTC painrelievers.
Tylenol is destructive to the liver BTW.
citizen dave
Today is my Shot #2 PLUS FORTNIGHT day. I guess we need a word for the day in the English language. Thinking of going to downtown Indy and kissing all the maskless NCAA mens basketball fans…
Very casual fan these days but can’t help hearing a little. Pre-tourney: Big 10 super strong, etc. Day 1: Ohio State and Purdue choke.
Alison Rose
@Another Scott: Yeah, the articles all say it’s okay to take stuff afterward, but not before. My parents take a daily aspirin so I told my mom they should skip the next couple days just to be on the safe side.
James E Powell
@sdhays:
Which comes as a total shock to all of us. We – and by that I mean every Democrat – need to shine the light and start screaming about Florida. And somebody needs to do something about what appears to be the gross incompetence of the Florida Democratic Parties. I’ve never recovered from the butterfly ballot that put Bush in the White House.
germy
@satby:
Off topic, but for months and months I couldn’t watch TV without seeing a commercial for Seresto a hundred times a day.
Gruff doggy voice singing “Seresto Seresto Seresto” while the dog brings back various things he’s taken from his travels around the neighborhood (no fenced yard, apparently).
Now I see horrifying news segments on that product. Dogs and even some cats have died after wearing the collar.
I tend to avoid anything I see advertised too heavily on TV. Local car dealerships, stores, service providers. It seems the businesses who can’t rely on word of mouth recommendations have the biggest advertising budgets.
Miss Bianca
Just had the first Moderna jab yesterday, and had a bit of upper arm soreness starting last night, mostly better today. Woke up with a headache this morning, took a Tylenol, that’s better too.
Now I am just feeling a bit lethargic. As in, “I know I ought to get up off this couch and go DO STUFF, but I just can’t make myself care enough to actually do it.”
Plus, wind gusting outside. Makes me want to stay in and just burn wood and snuggle the doggies all day.
BC in Illinois
@BC in Illinois:
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Okay. Caution has set in. I just rescheduled my shot for Wednesday, March 24th. I need to be able to do things by the weekend. We shall see.
Barry
@trollhattan: “I note the profession because there is a distinct cohort of engineers who hold lunatic notions of nutrition and health. IDK why, but have worked around them for decades.”
‘I am an engineer, and so know everything’
JanieM
@satby:
Are you saying Tylenol is an NSAID? Got any evidence?
Jackie
@Alison Rose: I couldn’t find the time-frame either – even on the CDC site. I finally called my PA in frustration, and her advice was 12 hrs. So that’s what I did. My after side effects – mild, but noticeable – seemed to indicate Ibuprofen didn’t interfere!
Another Scott
@Alison Rose: I take a baby aspirin every day. (I’ve got a PFO and my doc worries about me having a stroke or something.)
GoodRx:
Makes sense to me. I don’t plan to change my routine meds before I get the shot.
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
Miss Bianca
@bt: I, on the other hand, after the first Moderna shot, was feeling tired enough that I hit the hay without my usual dose of melatonin, and slept for almost 10 hours.
Bodies are indeed weird.
dww44
@JanieM: So, which is actually safer to use, tylenol or aspirin or other? We use REGULAR strength tylenol, which is hard to find and costs more than the Extrastrength dose. Methinks that is a marketing ploy. Seems altogether ill-advised from an overdosing perspective.
germy
I took two aspirin this morning.
Then I found out I have a vaccine appt. Monday morning. Should I be concerned?
West of the Rockies
I’m under 60 with no health issues, so even in CA I have some wait until I can get the vaccine. I wait semi-patiently.
zhena gogolia
You guys have me thoroughly confused now.
I have to have a root canal between the two shots. I’m hoping whatever I have to take for the aftermath of that doesn’t interfere.
Inessential and Disposable
I’m happy for all of you, but feeling stabby after waking up to see that (1) as a 50-something I’m now eligible (2) no appointments are available in a 50 mile radius (3) the center across the street from me is offering a clinic FOR TEENAGERS ONLY, but no first shots for you olds, thank you very much. Even though I signed up as interested in January.
The actual fuck? I was too young to get it, and now I’m too old? When was I the right age–between 1:27 and 1:29 am last night? I want to tell these heartless monsters that my life has every bit as much worth as the junior prom, but I know it won’t do any good. Back to reflecting on how I should have made better life choices so I’d be “essential.”
zhena gogolia
@germy:
Ask your doctor, but it doesn’t sound like it.
JanieM
@dww44: Agree about the marketing ploy. And don’t get me started on the difficulty of finding medications without food dye.
Otherwise I can only say what I’ve been told as a layperson, which is not to take more than the recommended dosage.
I don’t take Tylenol normally, in part because of the danger to the liver, but also because, as J R in WV said, it just doesn’t seem to do anything for me.
I’d ask a doc……
JMG
It’s been 24 hours now since my second Pfizer shot and still no reaction except soreness around the area of the shot in my right arm. Maaaybe a little fatigue, but hard to separate that from usual afternoon urge to take a nap. No fever or chills yet. My nonmedical guess is that every person’s immune system is different enough to have different, individual responses to the vaccine, running the gamut from practically none to quite severe.
sab
@hells littlest angel: Tylenol can be pretty toxic to livers when combined with alcohol, so the drinking jackals (not rare beasts) should probably avoid it
ETA Not any reference to you. Just saying that lots of the jackals drink, and drinking jackals should abstain from Tylenol
ETA Drinking MAGAts should be encouraged to use Tylenol just in case the anti-freeze that Obama told them not to drink doesn’t do the job.
raven
@germy: If you want something to be “concerned” about you came to the right place.
germy
@raven:
Did you see my comment #79?
raven
@germy: Now THAT is something to be concerned about!
Ken
So say we all.
Mai Naem mobile
@Uncle Cosmo: Moderna’s dose is 3x Pfizer. I read up on it a little and the FDA has asked Moderna to look into whether they can get the same outcomes with a smaller dose. There was an error in the Bay area where a few thousand people got a smaller first dose than recommended and it was okayed by either the CDC or the FDA.
Kirk Spencer
@Barry: in fairness I’ve noticed this in other specialists requiring high mental skills in narrow field. IT, surgeons, and engineers top the list but are not alone.
germy
@raven:
Here’s a segment I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIlM-AZfq78
sab
@germy: OTC pesticide collars have been killing pets for my whole adult life, snd I am old enough to collect Social Security. I don’t know why they are not illegal. Best case they don’t work. Less good case they cause dermatitis. Worst case they kill.
Ken
I think that’s because the pills have to be distinguishable, to reduce the chance of consumer mix-up. The manufacturers print or stamp symbols into them, but that isn’t always obvious. So they have different shapes and colors.
(Which makes them look like candy, and I don’t think they’ve solved that except for the child-proof bottle and the warning to keep out of reach of children.)
germy
@sab:
And yet they keep being advertised and sold. I wish there was more oversight for pet products, including food.
raven
@sab: I lived in a house with 8 dogs and 9 people once. One of the guys put flea collars on his ankles and the scars were there until he drank himself to death at 50.
sab
@Kirk Spencer: A lot of these guys do an amazingly annoying job of filling out their tax organizers for their accountant. They have to rethink everything. Can’t just fill in the forms and send us their tax documents. Doubles their fees while we sort out what they mean and where they hid the info.
Ruckus
@sab:
I always look at the needle. So I can compare the size to the pain. That’s how I rate a great stab over a not so great. Big needle, no pain, that person is good. Tiny needle, much pain, even blood, not someone I want stabbing me.
I have, over the last few years, had lots of stabs. Injections, blood draws, IV pokes, angiogram pipelines….. The last one was one of the best. I didn’t see the needle for that one, and I agree that one should never, ever look at that before, it is huge. The worst was an IV poke in the back of the hand. 5 yrs ago and it still hurts today. And I’m not even in the running for most pokes in a decade. Not in any way close.
raven
I remember when we discovered this shit and put it on our dogs.
raven
@Ruckus: Isn’t this where we left off last night?
sab
@raven: Yikes.
Inessential and Disposable
How is it that as soon as 50-somethings are eligible, no appointments are available, yet the center across the street is doling out second shots like candy and sponsoring a clinic for TEENAGERS ONLY? Too young before, now too old. When was my window–between 3 and 3:01 am last night? My life has as much worth as anyone’s junior prom!
Oh well, back to isolating and re-thinking my poor life choices that made me wind up as “non-essential.”
Another Scott
@germy: Our Ellie is on a Seresto collar. She’s fine with it.
2 page PDF from the EPA from 2016
Nothing is risk-free, of course. There must be millions of animals that have used these collars (and ones like them). We only hear about bad outcomes.
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
germy
My cat has that job.
raven
@sab: It’s not bad enough but they put a plaque on his barstool after he died.
sab
@Ruckus: My dad was a pathologist. Medical license but not so good with live patients. He used to give us shots at home, even though we begged him to use the neighbor wife who was a nurse. So he would sneak up on us when we were asleep. I am not afraid of shots, but I don’t want to watch.
My mother said he did it that way because of medical reciprocity. He was on salary to hospital, so they felt guilty sending us to private practice doctors when dad couldn’t reciprocate.
Many years later when I became an accountant I learned that medical billing reciprocity wasn’t a professional courtesy. Doctors did not want other doctors to know what they charged. Just plain old commercial competition. Mom was shocked.
ETA Doctors traditionally did not bill each other for treating each other or their families.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Does anybody else have a cat that becomes completely intolerable when a butter dish comes out? I swear, Fiona will knock a full grown man down to scarf some butter. She acted like I didn’t feed her at all this morning – I had to hold the butter dish. Just now, when I broke it out to have some biscuits, she was all up in my business.
I really do feed this cat. The others aren’t like this.
Ruckus
@Bunter:
It seems no one can predict how any individual will react. A lot of people talk about very similar reactions but then along comes someone with a completely different set, or none at all. I’ve had vaccinations that are not painful nor have any reactions at all and that others react to far more and I’ve also been hospitalized. One just never seems to know. And as well there are 3 different vaccines we all might be getting and they all differ in their affects.
J R in WV
@raven:
Did it work OK, were the dawgs OK after you used it? We give our dogs two monthly chewables, one for external parasites like fleas and ticks, and one for internal, like heartworm etc, from the vet.
Not cheap, but a visit to the Doggy ER for poisoning is really not cheap!
germy
Open thread? This photo from 1910!
Senegal Mona Lisa
germy
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
My cat goes nuts for butter and also cream cheese.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@zhena gogolia:
Ah, one of my favorites. Between the pain, the taste and the smell, I don’t know which part is the best.
germy
Another old photo:
Brachiator
@germy:
I am SO GLAD that I read the entire entry.
I was thinking, “it was a paying job to get people knocked up?”
RandomMonster
Maryland is moving to phase 2. I was preregistered and got a text saying I could make an appointment for next week. I’m all set to get a shot on Tuesday. I’m genuinely excited.
raven
@J R in WV: I dunno, this was in the 70’s and it may have. Ralph and Lenny lived into their early -teens.
germy
@Brachiator:
(Depressed-looking cartoon dog punching a clock): “Eh, it’s a living.”
Cheryl Rofer
@Amir Khalid: Interesting. One of the things the Biden administration wants to focus on is money laundering, and even last fall, Congress passed a measure that will give a lot of leverage against it.
Cheryl Rofer
@germy: No
germy
@Cheryl Rofer:
Thanks.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Still loving these threads about folks getting vaccinated. They make me feel as if the country is moving in the right direction.
Also they make a nice contrast the COVID outbreak at Mar-a-Lago. Thank god we now have the new guy
Mike in NC
@Cheryl Rofer: The entire Trump family are experts at money laundering.
munira
@cmorenc: I had Moderna and no reaction except a sore arm both times.
Uncle Cosmo
I looked at the syringe as he was prepping it. Then I looked away, let my arm dangle, and imagined the entire immediate family of a certain orange-haired shitgibbon being led off to prison in handcuffs and orange jumpsuits. Relaxed the living spit out of me! :^D
mazareth
Thanks for sharing your experience with the vaccine. I’m hoping to be able to get registered for vaccination after March 29. I have an underlying medical condition that’s in the latest CDC guidelines. Unfortunately, the demand for vaccination is far outstripping the current supply in my area.
The lockdown has been really tough for me mentally.
SWMBO
@Alison Rose:
A friend of mine is a nurse and he runs the clinic for the vaccines that are through his hospital. I told him about the meds I take and my son takes and he said if you take them on a regular basis for another purpose (Benadryl for allergic reaction or to sleep) to take it on schedule. He said if your body is expecting it and not taking it can cause an adverse reaction, to take what you need.
dmsilev
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It really does feel like progress. More and more personal stories about getting the shot(s) or at least getting firm dates in the near future. On a macro level, we’re only a few days away from hitting the ‘one in three adults have gotten at least one shot’ mark, so chances are, we all know many people who have started the process.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@mazareth: Fingers crossed for your getting an appointment. Things seem to loosening up as the amount of vaccine available increases.
Ruckus
@James E Powell:
No. Just lucky.
Ol'Froth
I felt fine after my first Pfizer dose, just some soreness at the injection site, but two days later was overcome with crushing fatigue. I slept until nearly 1pm. I don’t know if it was a reaction to the vaccine or something unrelated. Getting the second dose April 5, and happy to be getting it!
Suzanne
@Soprano2: My back is hurting, too. And now I’m a bit chilly, despite wearing PJs, a hoodie, and slippers.
Mr. Suzanne is going to take the kids to the park to get them out of the house, and that will be nice.
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: In Ohio my phone has been ringing from all the various pharmacies and the County Health Board where I signed up for waiting lists. Last couple of days all of them are calling back. But I already got my shots. So things looking good for others.
sab
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Was she ever stray or feral? I have one like that. It temps me to switch to margarine.
debbie
@germy:
No. Don’t take it that day before the shot. Fine to take it afterwards.
mazareth
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Much appreciated. I just checked the Wisconsin State Department of Health website. Looks like they moved up the eligibility date to March 22
If I can get an appointment, I’ll take whichever vaccine I can get. My preference is for one of the two shot vaccines if possible.
Martin
@James E Powell:
This is why God invented Denny’s. Or Norm’s out here in CA.
Martin
Boy, the GOP is really committed to saying the quiet part out loud.
Ruckus
@karen marie:
The biggest, best thing to keep in mind, the shot is far, far better than the disease because we don’t know the long term effects or even the medium term ones and that 541,000+ can’t have long term effects because they have reached their term limits. And that millions of doses have been given and if there have been any adverse reactions to the vaccine, they have been extremely rare, so rare that a lot of places massively vaccinating have had zero.
Here is the CDC web page about the vaccines.
debbie
@Martin:
A twisted plea for sympathy? ??
Argiope
@Uncle Cosmo: A few things, Uncle C, from a vaccinator: Moderna dose is 0.5 ml and Pfizer is 0.3 ml. Needle diameter is the same for both, a 25-gauge (and needle diameter determines how much the actual shot hurts, along with the vaccine itself). This is quite small–as in, we vaccinate babies with needles this diameter all the time. Needle length is determined by the size of the arm–we need to get it into the deltoid muscle so it does its job. This is kind of a judgement call since we don’t have scales handy and can’t use calipers to figure out layers of insulation overtop muscle. Last, but not least, it’s not the needle depth that determines bleeding but whether or not we hit capillaries. It’s not dangerous if that happens, but people’s arms aren’t see-through and we can place the jab in the *same* spot over and over again on lots of arms, and sometimes we hit those teeny vessels and sometimes we don’t. It feels very random to me and I follow protocol every time. I’d say about 1/10 we hit a capillary. Some days this means I randomly have about 15 bleeders, and some days I have 5. Hope this helps!
Ruckus
@germy:
No. See Scott at #85
Ruckus
@raven:
Isn’t it always?
Leslie
I got my first Pfizer dose on Wednesday. For the first 24 hours, I had a sore arm and some very mild achiness. In the 25-32 hour range, I added headache, sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, joint pain, and fatigue, all mild/non-debilitating. At approximately the 32-hour mark, I went to bed for the night. The next day, I still felt fatigued, but by that evening I was fine.
sab
@Argiope: Yes it does help.
Mary G
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: The only people foods my two cats like are tuna and butter, and if they had a choice, would take the butter.
sab
@Uncle Cosmo: %) ///
raven
@Ruckus: The great wheel of life. . .
Major Major Major Major
@Cermet: or you can just follow the directions and be fine. I get the need for caution but let’s not be silly.
sdhays
@Dorothy A. Winsor: There’s a COVID outbreak at Mar-a-Lago? That’s unpossible!
Ruckus
@sab:
I look at the needle, I do not watch it going in. Most of the time.
I’ve also found out that watching seems to make it less painful because I know and don’t tense up. I still don’t watch most of the time. But I used to get a lot of tests and shots at the same VA clinic given by the same woman, who is the best stabber I’ve had in my lifetime. Zero pain, every time. I wish she could teach others. But I’m not sure it is an actual teachable skill, how to be painless stabbing someone. Where to do it, how to do it, yes, how to do it very, very well, sorry no.
StringOnAStick
@zhena gogolia: Usually a dentist will prescribe something like Tylenol with codeine or a stronger narcotic, usually compounded with Tylenol.
When I had each knee replaced, I had a complicated dosing schedule for various meds, including Tylenol and the narcotic that was prescribed had no Tylenol so it was a tiny pill. I found the Tylenol upset my stomach by knee #2 so I quit taking it. I’ve never found it to be very effective for me plus the risk of bad, bad results of you overdose even 2 or 3 times the recommended dose makes me very leery of Tylenol.
Another Scott
@Ruckus: I had a good friend in high school who was one of the unfortunates who would literally faint at the sight of blood, especially his own. He hated needles.
I had to have a benign fatty growth cut out of my arm once and wanted to see how it was done, so I watched the whole thing. ~ 1.5″ long incision, etc, etc. Shots don’t bother me. ;-)
Differences are the spice of life!
Cheers,
Scott.
sab
@Ruckus: Also too good disposable needles are a wonder of modern medicine for those of us who felt the many time used and then sterilized and reused ones at the dull end of their use life. Modern kids don’t know what they missed.
Benw
Dose number two down the metaphorical hatch just now!
sab
@Another Scott: I woke up during my heart procedure. I was supposed to be in twilight but then I wasn’t. Whole surgical staff dancing around to rock music because the room was very very cold. Procedure became unpleasant but I tried to hold very still. Then the surgeon said ” Guys, I think she’s awake.” Then I wasn’t.
James E Powell
@Martin:
One of the saddest days in my West LA life was when they closed the Norm’s on Pico.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sdhays: Yes! It’s closed
prostratedragon
@sdhays: In 2002 a pair of local pols found a Jesse L. Jackson, retired truck driver, to run in the primary against Jesse Louis Jr. No criminal wrongdoing was found, though the move did nothing to burnish the Shaw brothers’ reputation around here; partly, I think there were no campaign finance shenanigans as there were in the Florida case. The brothers never responded to charges from JJJr that they were trying to confuse voters, no doubt because Hell yes! that’s what they were doing. No need to dignify such an idle question with an answer. The ringer withdrew before the election, unfortunately because of a death in his family.
Incident described in Jesse Jackson Jr.’s wikipedia bio
Brachiator
@Martin:
I miss going to Denny’s and Norm’s and other all night diners.
Another Scott
One for Mayhew, and the rest of us. Phys.org:
“Simplify, then add lightness.” – Colin Chapman.
Cheers,
Scott.
Argiope
@sab: excellent. Here’s more: these mRNA vaccines don’t seem to hurt much going in, for most people. A few times I think we get a little close to a nerve (again, people are wired differently and not see-through) and it’s more ouchie—but for every person who seemed to have a rough time, I’ve had 3 or 4 ask (honestly enquiring) if I did anything at all because “I didn’t feel anything!” To which I always respond, “later today, you’ll know we met and had this little chat” because arms do seem to get sore eventually for most. Most people feel pressure but nothing majorly sharp, painful or stingy, and most I think are pleasantly surprised by what a not-so-big deal the injection itself is since the side effects can be much more of a thing. Relaxed arms help a lot to reduce pain, not that it’s easy to do that when someone is coming at you with a needle.
StringOnAStick
One of my old friends in CO is age 52, and up to now she didn’t qualify but she has a public facing job at the local university and two of her students tested positive last week, so she was both freaked out and angry last night. Today CO opened eligibility to a category that includes her, so now it’s a question of getting an appointment. She’s the one whose boss caught Covid in Europe in early January and he went from being a super fit, very active guy to barely being able to climb a flight of stairs due to lung damage and has had no appreciable improvement since. I don’t care about the potential side effects, we’re getting vaccinated as soon as we can!
Another Scott
@sab: Yikes! That must have been very disconcerting.
I sometimes wonder about these skulls that archeologists come across occasionally – “Here we see evidence of brain surgery from 2500 years ago, and 1000 years ago they were better than civil war surgeons…
Our bodies can tolerate a lot, but that doesn’t mean that it’s pleasant!!
Cheers,
Scott.
SWMBO
@StringOnAStick: My son and I have had the first Pfizer jab. My husband has had the second Pfizer jab. You get a slight headache when you grow the horns and the hooves make your legs sore while you’re learning to walk on them. Otherwise, any other side effects are minimal compared to being on a ventilator.
mrmoshpotato
@SWMBO:
Use your tail for balance!
StringOnAStick
@Argiope: Thanks for your comments from the other end of the needle! That’s helpful for all of us.
I read a quoted comment a few months ago from someone who claimed it was a 30 gauge needle for an IM injection, which made me immediately suspicious about other things in their comment that also seemed a bit off.
StringOnAStick
@mrmoshpotato: A tail would be fun, but require an expensive wardrobe update. Oh well, sometimes shopping can be entertaining.
raven
I’ve had injections in places where we don’t even want to talk about on a family blog as well as a cystoscopy . You just grit your teeth and bear it.
Mary G
I’m sorry you have to live in a petri dish, Betty and Adam:
mrmoshpotato
@Martin:
Well when your party’s 40-year platform is “Tax cuts for the rich, and FUCK THE REST OF YOU!”…
mrmoshpotato
@Mary G: Glad my aunt and uncle 50 miles north have been vaccinated.
Alison Rose
@Ken: Maybe they could start making them into little shapes, like cat and dog food.
Brachiator
@Another Scott:
I really appreciate stuff like this, but the lack of clarity and common sense drives me nuts.”Choice architecture?” Jargon, much?
I could be a fucking Einstein, but having to answer 51 goddam questions would probably make me just give up.I really hope some health agencies are learning from this stuff.
Elderly patients in nursing homes are easy to get to. Maybe you need to make it easy for elderly people, or their family members, to make appointments and send people out to them. Maybe some elderly can get to community centers.
For other people who may not have computers even if they have “digital skills,” you need to find easy ways to get information to them, and then make it easy for them to react.
Early on in Los Angeles County it was “Bring your ass and some ID to Dodger Stadium or the Inglewood Forum and get the vaccine.”
At one point I tried to make an online appointment through a health authority link, which showed local pharmacies which were taking appointments. There were too many questions and the site shut down when I tried to choose a nearby pharmacy.
When I was able to get back on, all appointments were taken. I used another portal, ignored some questions and got an appointment. From some introductory material I knew they wanted my insurance card.
Got an appointment and they did not even ask about or verify some of the supposed necessary questions during the online sign in.
Anyhoo, the point is for something as critical as these vaccinations, they need to keep it simple for everybody. And where necessary, take the shots to the people.
But good stuff and interesting link.
ETA: At one point the editor screwed up the formatting when I tried to update the comment. Hope it shows up OK this time.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Another Scott: That does seem overly complex. Insurance card, why? Aren’t the feds paying for this?
sab
@mrmoshpotato: I am waiting for a Kay comment time, but Summit County Ohio GOP is having a glorious battle between Ohio Secretary of State (rising star in Summit County GOP) and the local long-time GOP hotshot who headed the GOP half of Summit County Board of Elections. Major shenanigans by both parties because they did not folow the rules. Felons wrre dienfranchised, and at leadt one dead Republican voted.
Secretary of State was not pleased. He said, correctly, you local guys are my agents and you fucked up. I am not reappointing you to the board to serve badly as my agents. Dems said okay. Rethugs are livid and in court.
Should be interesting. Did I mention the Sec of State is from this county, so these are his local leaders he is dissing. Hoping for injuries.
ETA Ohio law insists on bipartisan boards of election. Half of them, half of us, and Sec of State breaks all ties.
Our local geniuses weasled out of that and split the jobs. Dem got the felons (whom he overenthusiastically cut from the rolls.) Repubs got the decedents, and they cut only those who had death certicifates from the county coroner, so all the rich dead snowbirds were still eligible to vote, and one of them did.
Repub Sec of State was furious.
So there or here we are. I voted for Ken Blackwell once, so I ain’t making the mistake of voting for a Republican Sec of State again, but my how interesting.
Miss Bianca
@Martin: Yep. One of the bozos driving the bus in my county government actually blurted this out during a county commissioner meeting. He and the county attorney have been busily spending taxpayer-funded time ginning up “resolutions” which the commissioners have been just as busily rubber-stamping, to the effect that they refuse to enforce any laws that they think are “unconstitutional”, and have been loud in their assertions that HR 1 is, or will be, one of them. The level of delusion in these freaks is off the hook.
Wakeshift
@Another Scott:
a Lotus reference, summarizing an academic journal article, responding to a midnight cooking post on a good-hearted curmudgeon’s blog.
there’s no place I’d rather be
rikyrah
Glad to hear that you are feeling better, Cole??
zhena gogolia
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
They asked me for my insurance card at the vaccine site, even though the e-mail said I needed to bring the QR code and a photo ID and didn’t mention an insurance card. Luckily I had it with me.
J R in WV
@raven:
That’s a pretty good age for a bigger dog. They were good looking dogs, having fun together.
Kayla Rudbek
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: only butter? my family’s cat loved anything dairy. Empty ice cream bowls left on the counter, string cheese, milk, etc.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@zhena gogolia: It seems like putting an unnessasary burden on getting as many shots in arms as possible.
Ruckus
@raven:
Yep.
dnfree
@Alison Rose: my doctor said it was okay to take the little 81 mg aspirin before the shot if it’s part of my medical regimen. That’s a fairly small dose.
CROAKER
I find these posting regarding shots distressing. I have stayed away from this blog because of this for sometime. There are those of us living in States that are insufficient levels of vaccination with dangerous levels of community spread. We are at risk and nothing for us has changed.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Industrial accident almost lost my left thumb. Cut the artery, the nerve bundle and 80% of the tendon. Even cut into the bone. Watched the doc clean and sew it up. 9 stitches just to close it up.
Ruckus
@sab:
This is true. Mash truly was as much about medicine as it was about comedy. The changes in medicine over the last 70 yrs has been absolutely amazing. In 1950 we had a vaccine for small pox. Now we have at least 3 amazing vaccines for a year old disease and they are going in millions of arms, with high efficiency and minimal side effects. A hundred years ago we had a pandemic and the only cure was space, masks and death. A year ago we had nothing more, now listen to us.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@CROAKER: I’ve been trying to skip as many of these posts as possible, I find them depressing since it’s like a party that I was invited to.
Suzanne
Now I am lying on the couch with a blanket and cuddling up with Spawn the Youngest. It is nice.
Beth
I got my second Moderna shot around the same time as many of my (health care) co-workers. The consensus was most felt exhausted and had chills that wouldn’t quit. I skipped a day of work, which hasn’t happened in forever, and just slept under a pile of blankets, with 2 pairs of socks on my frozen feet, and two layers of clothing–still not warm.
The next day I felt pretty fine, with some aftershock effects such as a rash, sudden tiredness, and such a week or two later. Figure that I dodged a bullet as COVID would have gotten me for sure!
Matt McIrvin
@hells littlest angel: After my knee surgery they put me on a combination of Advil as an anti-inflammatory, Tylenol for additional pain relief and one aspirin a day as an anti-clotting agent. But apparently aspirin plus NSAIDs makes you bruise really easily, and when I got horrible bruises all over my leg and foot they took me off the Advil. Left the Tylenol specifically because it is not an NSAID.
Matt McIrvin
@CROAKER: It’s gonna be another month for me here in Massachusetts. Hoping I can keep from getting infected for that long–officials and the public seem to be starting to do dumb things because the vaccination program is giving the idea that the pandemic is over.
At least my parents and my in-laws got vaccinated; that was my worst fear.
JWR
@germy:
The commercials I particularly loathe are the “MyPillow” guy spots, airing regularly, and apparently only on MeTV. They disappeared for maybe 2 weeks following TFFG’s attempted coup, but now they’re back with a vengeance. I was hoping he was just using up previous ad buys, but it’s looking more and more like he’s back to stay. Groan!
PS. TFFG = The Fucking Former Guy. Or, The Former Fucking Guy, whichever suits yer fancy.
Matt McIrvin
@JWR: The Fucking Fucking Goblin
sab
@Ruckus: Yes. My dad caught hepatitis in Korea from inept vaccination of military personnel in the 1950s. 2020 he is still alive 96 in a nursing home and vaccine saves his life. Politically we slip and slide but medically and scientificly we seem to move forward.
zhena gogolia
@CROAKER:
I’m sorry. I felt that way too when I was unable to get an appointment. I think I’ll probably start skipping them too. But some people are finding it helpful for alleviating the anxiety of what to expect.
Chris T.
What, we shouldn’t talk about having a tube shoved up into your … oh right.
(I’ve had that too, alas)
tarragon
Even without the alcohol.
When medical professionals recommend Tylenol for me I always tell them “I prefer my liver damage the old fashioned way”
cain
So jealous of y’all getting your second shot! I’m not eligible till May. :(
Suzanne
Spawn the Youngest woke up, crawled and climbed all over me, and stepped on my boobs. Now those hurt too. Ehhhh.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
I find it helpful. Forewarned is forearmed.
JanieM
@cain: In Maine they changed eligibility dates recently, to where everyone is eligible as of April 19. Fingers crossed that you get a similar boost!
Suzanne
Just took temperature, just over 100. Hopefully feel better by Monday.
Yutsano
@cain: Damn dude. I’d say hop the border north if I thought it would work.
Ruckus
@cain:
What state are you in?
Many states are seeing large numbers now being vaccinated and that holding back people isn’t really getting the job done. President Biden has handily beaten his goal of 100 million shots in his 100 days, we are already over 100 million on day 58. If this continues or even gets better I’d bet things will open up most places sooner than later.
I understand the concept of I want it yesterday and I hope that you get your’s a lot sooner than May. I see that it’s real possible for a majority to be done sooner than later, now that competence is being restored.
Yolanda Benton
These repeated comments to “avoid NSAIDs” after the vaccine are, just like the panic over NSAIDs in the early part of the pandemic, not based in any good evidence. I wish you’d quit posting it as if it’s accepted medical advice.
Sloegin
End(?) of pandemic insomnia is a thing. People’s anxiety levels are already high waiting their turn for a shot, getting their shot, and worrying about getting infected before the vaccine they got is fully effective.
I’ve had at least a half dozen all nighters in the last couple of months, the rest being maybe getting 5 random hours in between 8pm and 10am. Doesn’t help that the job over the last year involves working with hospital residents (but didn’t qualify for shots when they got shots)