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Mystery Man (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  April 2, 202110:53 am| 179 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

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Mystery Man (Open Thread)

Man, this Gaetz-Greenberg scandal has everything. Snot-nosed rich boys who use their daddies’ money and connections to buy office – check. Arrogant Trump-humping douchebags who think their power enables them to act with impunity – check. Abject morons who leave a trail of literal receipts behind to incriminate themselves – check.

As I’ve repeated in every single thread that addresses the Gaetz sleazopocalypse, my fondest wish is that the investigation and prosecution ensnare additional Florida Republicans. Welp: [NYT]

Investigators believe Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector in Seminole County, Fla., who was indicted last year on a federal sex trafficking charge and other crimes, initially met the women through websites that connect people who go on dates in exchange for gifts, fine dining, travel and allowances, according to three people with knowledge of the encounters. Mr. Greenberg introduced the women to Mr. Gaetz, who also had sex with them, the people said.

One of the women who had sex with both men also agreed to have sex with an unidentified associate of theirs in Florida Republican politics, according to a person familiar with the arrangement. Mr. Greenberg had initially contacted her online and introduced her to Mr. Gaetz, the person said.

Jeebus doesn’t love us peninsula dwellers enough to make that unidentified Republican someone consequential like DeSantis, Scott or Rubio, who are the three most dangerous GOPers in the state (in that order). My guess is it’ll turn out to be a nobody like the state rep in central FL (Greenberg’s stomping grounds) who, in the Trumpian-Gaetzian mold, views his job as trolling instead of legislating.

You’d kinda hope for bigger quarry, but this must be a deeply stupid and arrogant person like the named suspects, and I don’t think even Rubio is that dumb.

Anyhoo, open thread.

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  1. 1.

    PsiFighter37

    April 2, 2021 at 10:56 am

    What’s the over/under when Gaetz is perp-walked? I am also sure that the true story about his ‘son’ will come out as well.

  2. 2.

    patrick II

    April 2, 2021 at 10:58 am

    I wouldn’t mind finding out about Tucker Carlson’s problems with “some crazy woman” that Gaetz brought up during his interview.  There is so much going on that no one will probably follow that thread, but Tucker is just as sleazy but smarter than Gaetz.  But then who isn’t.  Oh, that’s right, Greenburg.

  3. 3.

    geg6

    April 2, 2021 at 11:00 am

    This shit gets crazier and crazier.  Florida Man with Ecstasy instead of meth.  Jesus.  And I’m not so sure that Rubio is smart enough to have stayed away from these idiots.  I don’t think it’s him, but that doesn’t make him smart.

  4. 4.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:00 am

    The Daily Beast also attempted to reach the former employee who interacted with Greenberg via text message, but was unsuccessful. That employee eventually signed a $50,000 settlement with the Office of the Seminole County Tax Collector over claims of unfair retaliation at work after Greenberg allegedly used a circle of personal friends he hired at the agency to harass and intimidate her and her family. That settlement bars her from “false or defamatory statements” about her former employer, but importantly does not prevent her from speaking to government investigators, according to a copy obtained by The Daily Beast.

  5. 5.

    Al Z.

    April 2, 2021 at 11:00 am

    I can’t wait for the Coen brothers take.  Who plays Gaetz?

  6. 6.

    Tim C.

    April 2, 2021 at 11:01 am

    Okay,   cultural awareness fail or the outfit around the face makes it unclear to me.   Who is that in the Game of Thrones meme?

  7. 7.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 11:01 am

    Gaetz has been scrubbed (1984ed?) From Fox news.  I predict the next time he is mentioned there, the chyron will identify him as a Democrat.

  8. 8.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 11:02 am

    @Tim C.: Liz Cheney

    Who does have a bit of resemblance to Lon Chaney pre-full moon.

  9. 9.

    Tim C.

    April 2, 2021 at 11:03 am

    @Immanentize: Got it!  Now that makes sense.  :D  Thanks.

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 2, 2021 at 11:03 am

    This, apparently, refers to the FL legislature, not the House

    Charlie Sykes @SykesCharlie 2h
    “Sources said Gaetz was part of a group of young male lawmakers who created a “game” to score their female sexual conquests, which granted “points” for various targets such as interns, staffers or other female colleagues”

    interns. Why are “sources” covering up for these guys?

  11. 11.

    lurker dean

    April 2, 2021 at 11:03 am

    @Tim C.:

     

    @Tim C.:

     

    liz cheney. the scuttlebutt is that she and her father are behind this to get back at gaetz.

    oops, i see someone beat me too it..

  12. 12.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:04 am

    Greenberg has maintained a close relationship with Gaetz for several years. Both were rising stars in Florida’s Republican Party in 2016. They have taken selfies together with political operative Roger Stone in 2017, at AIPAC in 2018, and at the White House in 2019. Gaetz publicly lent his support to Greenberg, cheering him as “a disrupter” who should run for Congress.

    They were also together in the Florida panhandle region on July 5, 2019 when they called a state legislator, Rep. Anna V. Eskamani, and left her a peculiar voicemail that has been obtained by The Daily Beast.

    “My dear Anna, this is your favorite tax collector. I’m up in the panhandle with your favorite U.S. congressman, Mr. Gaetz,” Greenberg starts to say.

    “Hi Anna!” Gaetz jumps in.

    “And, uh, we were just chatting about you, and talking about your lovely qualities,” Greenberg continued.

    “We think you’re the future of the Democratic Party in Florida!” Gaetz said.

    On Thursday, Eskamani told The Daily Beast that she maintained Greenberg at arm’s length for years. Their interactions started when she called him out over Islamaphobic comments then helped him connect with the Muslim community to recover from that. Eskamani said she cautiously entertained “weird” contacts from Greenberg and Gaetz that made her uncomfortable.

    You can hear the phone message here.

  13. 13.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:05 am

    @Al Z.:

    Donny Osmond is too old.

  14. 14.

    Jeffro

    April 2, 2021 at 11:07 am

    Since this is an open thread…there’s an excellent article in that paper about how Virginia has done a complete 180 from its past as the heart of the Confederacy, especially in terms of voting rights.

    Elections have consequences!

    Alone among the states of the former Confederacy, Virginia has become a voting rights bastion, increasingly encouraging its citizens — especially people of color — to exercise their democratic rights. In the last 14 months, the state’s Democratic-controlled General Assembly and Mr. Northam have together repealed the state’s voter ID law, enacted 45 days of no-excuse absentee voting, made Election Day a state holiday and enacted automatic voter registration for anyone who receives a Virginia driver’s license.
    Virginia, which for nearly 50 years had to submit changes to its elections to the federal government for approval under the Voting Rights Act’s preclearance requirements, has now effectively imposed the same covenants on itself, an extraordinary step for a state with a long history of segregation and racially targeted voting laws.

  15. 15.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:07 am

    Gaetz supported a policy of drug-testing welfare recipients.

  16. 16.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    April 2, 2021 at 11:08 am

    @Al Z.:

    Who plays Gaetz?

    If this had gone down in the ’90s, I’d have said Ray Liotta – Gaetz bears an uncanny resemblance to Liotta’s portrayal of Henry Hill in Goodfellas, and that’s not intended as a compliment to Gaetz.

    In 2021? Perhaps Neil Patrick Harris? I don’t know about the physical resemblance, but I think NPH has the acting chops to capture the utter punchability of Gaetz. And that is meant as a compliment to Mr. Harris.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 2, 2021 at 11:08 am

    @geg6:

     And I’m not so sure that Rubio is smart enough to have stayed away from these idiots.

    Jack Germond had an anecdote about a time during Nixon’s self-rehabilitation when he tried to hang out with a bunch of reporters and be “one of the boys”; he tried so hard it got creepy and weird real quick. I can see Rubio in a similar situation, trying to hang with the younger bros and the party breaking up quick.

  18. 18.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:08 am

    From NBC News: Luke Ball, the communications director for Rep. Matt Gaetz, has resigned, according to a person familiar with the situation

    — Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) April 2, 2021

  19. 19.

    different-church-lady

    April 2, 2021 at 11:09 am

    Man, the half-life to these wingnut implosions just keeps getting shorter and shorter.

  20. 20.

    cmorenc

    April 2, 2021 at 11:10 am

    @Al Z.:

    I can’t wait for the Coen brothers take.  Who plays Gaetz?

    This may seem counter-intuitive at first, but Leonardo DiCaprio would be the perfect choice – recall that Leo already has experience convincingly portraying a rich, greedy, arrogant douche bag in “Wolf of Wall Street” – and he has just enough superficial physical resemblance to Gaetz that makeup artists could easily make over DiCaprio into a near-dead ringer.

  21. 21.

    yellowdog

    April 2, 2021 at 11:10 am

    @Al Z.: Whoever it is, they will need a forehead prosthesis.

  22. 22.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 11:11 am

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR:

    Butch Patrick, aka Eddie Munster.

  23. 23.

    Danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 11:12 am

    @germy:

    ecstasy for me but not for thee, you miserable welfare sponge!

  24. 24.

    Jeffro

    April 2, 2021 at 11:12 am

    @Immanentize: it’s just amazing – not a single mention that I can see on their home page!

    Here’s what they have up:

    • Immigrants being ‘dropped over the border wall’
    • 22 states fighting California’s firearms ban(?)
    • Biden’s plan is really less than half “infrastructure”
    • Masker vs anti-masker fight at a big-box store
    • Hunter Biden (of course!)
    • Voter somewhere in NY fed up with Cuomo
    • Parents fed up with anti-white-supremacy curriculum somewhere
    • Another story about immigrant kids being dropped over the wall
    • a liberal DA somewhere ‘gutting’ an anti-gang and narcotics unit
    • promo for Piers Morgan to appear on Tucker Carlson’s show

    I mean, does that even remotely look like a news organization?

  25. 25.

    yellowdog

    April 2, 2021 at 11:15 am

    @cmorenc: Oscar Isaac. His forehead is almost big enough.

  26. 26.

    karen marie

    April 2, 2021 at 11:16 am

    @lurker dean: Except the investigation of Gaetz started months earlier than Cheney’s vote.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 11:17 am

    One of the women who had sex with both men also agreed to have sex with an unidentified associate of theirs

    Boy, that Kathleen Harris really gets around, don’t she?

    //

  28. 28.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:18 am

    Meanwhile, in Russia…

    Wow. Instead of being visited by a Dr, @navalny was visited by a team from RT, led by MARIA BUTINA (yes, the same woman convicted in the US of being a Russian agent). She shouted this was the best prison. Navalny then called her a parasite and a servant of the power of thieves. https://t.co/CaFTKHIz1F

    — Bianna Golodryga (@biannagolodryga) April 1, 2021

  29. 29.

    PST

    April 2, 2021 at 11:19 am

    @Al Z.: Who plays Gaetz? Armie Hammer.

  30. 30.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 11:20 am

    @Jeffro: We need to brace ourselves for a slew of Hunter coverage across non-Fox outlets. His book is about to be released, and he’s doing media appearances around that.

  31. 31.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 11:21 am

    @NotMax:

    Hot and cold running STDs for everyone!

    Seriously, if ever there was a poster boy for backpfeifengesicht it’s Matt Gaetz.

    ETA: whose communications director just resigned, if only I can find the link.

  32. 32.

    Al Z.

    April 2, 2021 at 11:21 am

    @yellowdog: Oscar Isaac is a good call. Seriously this project is one murder away from getting green-lit.

  33. 33.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 2, 2021 at 11:22 am

    @germy: not to minimize his brutality, but I swear sometimes Putin is just trolling the US media

  34. 34.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:23 am

    @PST:

    A box of arm & hammer.

  35. 35.

    lowtechcyclist

    April 2, 2021 at 11:25 am

    @germy: Dude probably realized this business was way beyond being spinnable, and it wasn’t going to go away. So time to quit.

  36. 36.

    PST

    April 2, 2021 at 11:26 am

    @germy: Either one of which could be used on Gaetz’s backpfeifengesicht.

  37. 37.

    Shalimar

    April 2, 2021 at 11:27 am

    @Betty Cracker: Ugh.  I have empathy for his problems, I know his life has not been easy, but there is no reason I should ever have to hear the word Hunter again in my life.

  38. 38.

    TaMara (HFG)

    April 2, 2021 at 11:28 am

    @Betty Cracker: Ugh. Is there a world where someone can actually read the room and think, “oh, this might not be the best time to release a book about me?”

    I was so enjoying the non-drama of it all (well, except that “Major” scandal of who poo-ed on the carpet and when.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 11:29 am

    @Al Z.

    Philipp Karner?

  40. 40.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 11:30 am

    @germy:

    I knew I’d seen it somewhere, but I got my second shot yesterday and have about a minute’s worth of flash to bang delay this morning. Never get headaches but bigod I have one today.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    April 2, 2021 at 11:30 am

    @Shalimar:

    As I understand it, the book will talk about his addiction and could be a help to some people.  I see no reason to crouch in fear because Fox will be Fox.  Biden has already won.

  42. 42.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    April 2, 2021 at 11:31 am

    @cmorenc: recall that Leo already has experience convincingly portraying a rich, greedy, arrogant douche bag in “Wolf of Wall Street”

    Haven’t seen that, but I’ll second your casting choice based on “Django Unchained”, where he plays an evil rich bastard who is a moron but thinks he’s smart.

  43. 43.

    Gravenstone

    April 2, 2021 at 11:33 am

    @PsiFighter37:  I’m waiting for critical mass to be reached that culminates in his being expelled from the House. I expect Nancy has already been asked about it internally. At some point the Republican caucus will also realize that he has become too toxic to continue protecting.

  44. 44.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:34 am

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Or maybe he’s the third guy? There was a third guy that had women paid for, but he’s still unidentified.

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate…

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 11:35 am

    @TaMara (HFG): I saw a short interview clip — can’t remember which media outlet, seems like it was an outfit like “Today” or something relatively softball. Anyhoo, they dove straight into the laptop thing, of course, and Hunter said it was possible someone hacked his computer or stole a laptop to get that material. Maybe this is an effort to get out in front of something. I don’t know.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    April 2, 2021 at 11:36 am

    Biden holds first call with Ukrainian president amid Russian buildup

     

    The conversation follows at least three high-level calls between the U.S. and Ukraine this week

     
    Biden isn’t concerned about Hunter.

  47. 47.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    April 2, 2021 at 11:36 am

    @TaMara (HFG): Publisher probably has some input into the decision, and there may be contractual obligations to help publicize the book. They need to recoup their investment, after all, and they may have decided that now is a good time (especially since the President’s apparently on a roll right now).

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 11:37 am

    @NotMax

    Katherine Harris, not Kathleen. How soon we (thankfully) forget.

  49. 49.

    feebog

    April 2, 2021 at 11:38 am

    As much as I would like to see Scott or Rubio or DeathSantis mixed up in this I’ve got to think it is someone younger who ran in the same crowd. Betty, you know Florida politics better than most on the blog here, who fits that description?

  50. 50.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 11:40 am

    @Jeffro: No.  It’s a tabloid.

  51. 51.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 11:42 am

    @danielx: what brand of jab?

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 11:42 am

    @lowtechcyclist: Or he participated in their illegal behavior and is hoping that no one will notice him once he’s gone.

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

    edit: I swear I wrote this before seeing comment #44.

  53. 53.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:44 am

    @danielx:

    Pfizer or Moderna?

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 11:44 am

    @Immanentize

    “EXCLUSIVE: Batboy poops on White House carpet”

    //

  55. 55.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 11:44 am

    Gaetz has some… behaviors… similar to those of TFG but hasn’t figured out that ‘flooding the zone with shit’ won’t work for him. I’m hoping he never does.

  56. 56.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 11:46 am

    @Immanentize:

    Pfizer

  57. 57.

    Baud

    April 2, 2021 at 11:46 am

    The U.S. economy added 916,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate fell to 6 percent, in the strongest indication yet that the labor market is finally working its way back to pre-pandemic norms as the number of vaccinations continues to rise.

    The hiring and employment data, released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, firmly beat economists’ predictions of 675,000 positions added. Totals were revised upward for January by 67,000 to 233,000 positions and for February by 89,000 to 468,000.

  58. 58.

    Amir Khalid

    April 2, 2021 at 11:47 am

    @cmorenc:
    Malaysians paid for The Wolf of Wall Street — the money to make it was stolen from 1MDB — and we never got to see it in cinemas. (It was never going to get past the Film Censorship Board.) Pout.

  59. 59.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 2, 2021 at 11:51 am

    I really want that Boehner book, and would even spring for the Boehner off-script version where he tells Ted Cruz to go fuck himself.

  60. 60.

    Ken

    April 2, 2021 at 11:51 am

    @yellowdog: It can all be done with CGI nowadays, like in Tim Burton’s version of Alice in Wonderland — the one that faithfully reproduces the Tenniel illustrations.

  61. 61.

    Sasha

    April 2, 2021 at 11:52 am

    Jeebus doesn’t love us peninsula dwellers enough to make that unidentified Republican someone consequential like DeSantis, Scott or Rubio, who are the three most dangerous GOPers in the state (in that order). My guess is it’ll turn out to be a nobody like the state rep in central FL (Greenberg’s stomping grounds) who, in the Trumpian-Gaetzian mold, views his job as trolling instead of legislating.

    He might love you enough to have said nobody have dirt on someone higher up the food chain.

  62. 62.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 11:54 am

    @feebog: I would wager a small amount that it’s state-level Rep Anthony Sabatini, whom I was alluding to in the second-to-last graf in the OP. I have no inside info, but he is Gaetz adjacent, was in close geographical proximity to Greenberg and seems exactly the type of arrogant, dumb shithead who would be involved in something like this. I’d wager a SMALL amount because this is pure speculation, but he seems to fit the bill…

    If I’m right, the happiest person in Florida will be US House Rep. Daniel Webster, whom Sabatini is challenging in the next GOP primary. Webster is my rep, and a loathsome, corrupt religious fanatic who’s been in politics forever, to FL’s detriment. But Sabatini would be worse, so maybe this is partly wishful thinking on my part.

  63. 63.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 11:54 am

    Matt Gaetz’s sexually predatory behavior was first reported on in 2017.

    It is 2021.

    — Xeni Jardin (@xeni) April 2, 2021

    It's almost as if we live in a country where a guy was caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women and then a month later that guy was elected president.

    — Ami Berger (@AmiBerger) April 2, 2021

  64. 64.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 2, 2021 at 11:55 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: the audio version where he riffs on his own book after his third (and counting) glass of Gallo Hearty Burgundy

    “this is the part where I wanted to call Paul Ryan a pencil-necked fuckwit Eddie Haskell, but my editor said it was too mean for the old ladies in the church book club and the kids don’t know who fucking Eddie Haskell is….”

  65. 65.

    Ksmiami

    April 2, 2021 at 11:59 am

    @geg6: when I think of Marco, the last thing I think about is passion or lust or performance…So yeah, probably not him

  66. 66.

    Immanentize

    April 2, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    @danielx: thats what I got.  My second is in two weeks.  Trying to prepare for effects.

  67. 67.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Here’s an interesting theory:

    My pet theory is Boehner never lost his whole ass mind on GOP hooch because he’s a stoner. Marijuana has neuroprotective properties

    — Xeni Jardin (@xeni) April 2, 2021

  68. 68.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 2, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    @danielx:

    “Hot and Cold Running STDs” is the name of my punk cover band.

  69. 69.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Paul Ryan – now there’s a name I haven’t heard for a while. And to think just a few short years ago he was looking in the mirror and seeing presidential timber.

  70. 70.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 2, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    @Immanentize:

    My Moderna #2 featured 30 hours of fatigue, headache, earache, stiff arm and tinnitus.

    Enjoy!

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    @Ksmiami

    Well … we know for a fact he’s partial to swallowing.

    //

  72. 72.

    oatler.

    April 2, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    https://crooksandliars.com/2021/04/meanwhile-fox-matt-gaetz-has-disappeared

  73. 73.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    @Immanentize: ​
     
    It’s not awful, just feeling a little bit off – no chills or body aches, no fever.

    So far, knock on wood.

  74. 74.

    eclare

    April 2, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  That is a brilliant description

  75. 75.

    Ksmiami

    April 2, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    @different-church-lady: because they keep electing worse and worse humans. There, you’re welcome

  76. 76.

    Ksmiami

    April 2, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    @NotMax: omg can’t unsee. Damn you!

  77. 77.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: ​
     
    I’ve always favored “Black Velvet Elvis”.

  78. 78.

    MazeDancer

    April 2, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    Also enjoy the speculation that this is all Dick Cheney pay back.

    Do not mess with the OG Darth Daddy.

  79. 79.

    Jay C

    April 2, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    And speaking of “receipts”: there’s a report at Talking Points Memo that there is video evidence of Gaetz and his fellow sleazoid Greenberg (illegally) sifting through (? expired ?) drivers’ licenses in the tax-collector’s office. Not only did these brain-trusts not realize they were on surveillance video, but they left the DL’s sitting out on Greenberg’s desk (office employees found them, and Joel casually admitted he had been showing his pal “the Congressman” around….)

  80. 80.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    OT.

    Closed captioning on a WW2 documentary keeps printing out Karl Dönitz as Carl Doughnuts.

    :)

  81. 81.

    Montanareddog

    April 2, 2021 at 12:11 pm

    I propose Butt-head to play Gaetz

  82. 82.

    Suzanne

    April 2, 2021 at 12:14 pm

    You’d kinda hope for bigger quarry, but this must be a deeply stupid and arrogant person like the named suspects, and I don’t think even Rubio is that dumb.

    I don’t know. I never cease to be amazed by some dudes and the absolutely idiotic lengths they will go to in order to get laid.

  83. 83.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 2, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @NotMax:

    I’ve taken to using closed captioning in British and Irish shows. Beats the hell out of constantly stopping to replay to catch a bit of dialogue, only to still be clueless.

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    Delk

    April 2, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    Please let Pam Bondi be the unidentified republican politician.

  85. 85.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 12:16 pm

    The communications director for Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) had resigned amid allegations that the congressman made payments to multiple women recruited online for sex, according to NBC News.

    A source told the network that Luke Ball, who has been a spokesman for Gaetz since 2019, resigned out of principle.

    If he had principles, he wouldn’t have worked for Gaetz in the first place.

  86. 86.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    @Jay C: Evidence of trafficking. Ooopsie.

  87. 87.

    Doc Sardonic

    April 2, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I cannot figure out how he is your rep, unless he has a flop somewhere over there. Son of a bitch lives in Winter Garden and that ain’t anywhere relatively close to the southern tip of Sumter or Hernado, Marion or the Northwest edge of Lake county.

  88. 88.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    @Jay C:

    I think the video was destroyed, if I’m not mistaken, but there’s an eyewitness account from a security guard.

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 12:21 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    Yup yup. Also too, Scottish. The documentary I mentioned above happens to be British.

    As I don’t find CC intrusive I keep it enabled all the time. Have the text color set to yellow. Was missing too much against snowy backgrounds while watching Nordic stuff when it was set to white.

  90. 90.

    wenchacha

    April 2, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    @patrick II: We may have to satisfy ourselves with the tale of Tuck beating up a guy in a restroom who he says came on to him.

    From a while back.

  91. 91.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: Florida 11th.

  92. 92.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 12:24 pm

    Fully vaccinated can travel again, says new CDC guidance

    NEW YORK (AP) – Add travel to the activities vaccinated Americans can enjoy again, according to new U.S. guidance issued Friday.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S. without getting tested for the coronavirus or going into quarantine afterward.

    Previously, the agency had cautioned against unnecessary travel even for vaccinated people, but noted that it would update its guidance as more people got vaccinated and evidence mounted about the protection the shots provide.

  93. 93.

    Ken

    April 2, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    @germy: I think the principle is “looking out for himself.”  Guy probably has hopes of making the leap to Fox, and association with an unperson like Gaetz will not play well.

  94. 94.

    wenchacha

    April 2, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    @patrick II: We may have to satisfy ourselves with the tale of Tuck beating up a guy in a restroom who he says came on to him.

    From a while back.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tucker-bashed-bragging-beat-gay-man-article-1.241245

  95. 95.

    PaulWartenberg

    April 2, 2021 at 12:26 pm

    I had to update my blog article to include your quote, Betty.

    And Christ, the stories are getting worse. Gaetz was part of a Spur Posse gang – harassing women into sex to “score points” – at the State Lege as far back as 2013. Gaetz’s eagerness to show off nudes of his conquests on his smartphone on the floor of the U.S. House.

    Christ. The White Frat Boy ™ Privilege is destroying this nation.

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    April 2, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    @PaulWartenberg

    “Fake nudes!”

    //

  97. 97.

    PaulWartenberg

    April 2, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    @PST:

    It’s gonna be that guy who played Todd on Breaking Bad. Similar facial structure and bad hair.

  98. 98.

    TaMara (HFG)

    April 2, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR:

    Yup to both…totally selfish on my part. I was enjoying the #floodgaetz and didn’t want it derailed.

  99. 99.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    Boehner recorded his own audiobook and sometimes editorialized. Listen all the way to the end.

  100. 100.

    Doc Sardonic

    April 2, 2021 at 12:31 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Looked at the district map when I posted, it’s just funny that all his bio’s say he lives in Winter Garden which is in Orange County, but he could I guess now that I think about it list Winter Garden but live in that area where Winter Garden and Clermont run together along 50 and depending on who is winning the city limit sign battle. His House identifier does say R-Clermont.

  101. 101.

    danielx

    April 2, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    @NotMax:

    “Fake nudes!”

    Today’s win on the intertubes.

  102. 102.

    PaulWartenberg

    April 2, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    @germy:

    Testing poor people who can’t afford drugs, while rich white guys in political office don’t get drug tested for the meth and/or ecstasy that gets pumped directly into their veins. /headdesk

  103. 103.

    brantl

    April 2, 2021 at 12:33 pm

    @Immanentize:  POST full moon, too….

  104. 104.

    Cameron

    April 2, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    I thought I misread it at first, that Giant Puppet Head’s birthday is May 7.  Alas, it’s true – that’s my birthday also.  I have neither an adopted son nor underage girlfriend, so I guess I’ve missed out on the best things in life.

  105. 105.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 2, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    @NotMax: Be glad he didn’t have a distant nephew in the Kriegsmarine named Duncan…​

  106. 106.

    quakerinabasement

    April 2, 2021 at 12:36 pm

    Pensacola proud.

    Just one more reason I moved away decades ago and why I’m never moving back.

  107. 107.

    Cermet

    April 2, 2021 at 12:39 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: WTF?! That isn’t fair; so sorry for those issues. I certainly hope they clear up quickly.

  108. 108.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 12:39 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: Pretty sure that map was redrawn a while back too, but I wasn’t paying much attention at the time since I was south of Tampa. Now I’m back in my home county. Frying pan, fire, etc.

    @TaMara (HFG): I hear ya. The less we hear from that quarter, the better, IMO, especially when high-profile Republicans are imploding. But I suspect there’s a rationale behind the timing.

  109. 109.

    Bluegirlfromwyo

    April 2, 2021 at 12:41 pm

    @Al Z.: Maybe the Coen brothers could hire the Beavis and Butthead animators and use voice actors. Sean Penn has little physical resemblance to Gaetz but has insufferable douchebag down cold.

  110. 110.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    April 2, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    @germy: Doesn’t do me any good as I can’t get even partially vaccinated here in Larry Hogan’s Maryland.

  111. 111.

    tom

    April 2, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: ​
      I got Moderna #2 yesterday. So far, sore arm, mild fever, feeling really run down. But happy and relieved to have received it.

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    @germy:

    A source told the network that Luke Ball, who has been a spokesman for Gaetz since 2019, resigned out of principle  in the hopes that none of the shit that’s coming out will stick to him.

    Fixed that for you.

  113. 113.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 12:53 pm

    @MattF: I’m not understanding the connection between the Drivers Licenses and trafficking.  What am I missing?

    And why would expired drivers licenses be sitting in that office?

  114. 114.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    Have to catch up on this thread, but one of the things I love about the timing of this Gaetz scandal upon scandal unfolding is that it’s the big talk on a holiday weekend, which is one of the first when more and more Americans can actually gather together, given the progress with the vaccine rollout.

    And, if you know about the dirtbag associate Joel Greenberg, who was elected (!) Seminole County Tax Collector, it just gets better and better.  A lot of Florida man corruption and Republican sleaze, in two quite unappealing packages.

    Bonus:  NY Post, without a paywall:  last photo is of Gaetz and TFFG together, apparently on Air Force One.  Birds of a tawdry feather. https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/gaetz-showed-nude-photos-of-women-he-said-hed-slept-with-report/

    One question for the jackal hive mind:  does Gaetz look more like Beavis or Butthead?  I know he resembles one of them.

  115. 115.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: You need fake IDs for the people you’re moving around.

  116. 116.

    Jackie

    April 2, 2021 at 12:56 pm

    @Cameron: I have to share mine with TFG. This year’s BD is my first in FIVE years I don’t have to watch him ruin “MY” day!!!

  117. 117.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 12:57 pm

    @tom:  Yea!  Keep us posted on your aftereffects.

    April 16 (?) is your “fully vaccinated” day, hmm?  Mine will be April 19th — Branch Davidian and Timothy McVeigh bombing day.

  118. 118.

    Amir Khalid

    April 2, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    TFFG

    The Fucking Former Guy?

  119. 119.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    @MattF: Oh, that makes total sense.  It seems so obvious now.  I apparently lack the “think like a criminal” gene.  thank you.

  120. 120.

    SFBayAreaGal

    April 2, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So do I. I love Vera, however at times I couldn’t understand what they were saying. Then a light went off (my sister saying “why aren’t we using closed captioning?”) Behold the power of closed captioning.

  121. 121.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 2, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    Actual receipts.

    The stupid.  It burns.

  122. 122.

    Cameron

    April 2, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    @Jackie: So should I wish you the yoogest, bigliest birthday ever?

  123. 123.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 2, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    I don’t think even Rubio is that dumb.

    There is hope, Betty. Hubris trips up more people than stupidity ever did. It got Grietens.

  124. 124.

    Jimmm

    April 2, 2021 at 1:08 pm

    @Al Z.: I can’t wait for the Coen brothers take.  Who plays Gaetz?

    I keep seeing a young Bill Paxton (if you remember his portrayal of Chet from Weird Science).

  125. 125.

    brendancalling

    April 2, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    My big question is “who flips?” Specifically, I’m wondering if Greenberg—who the NYT reports “potentially faces decades in prison on three dozen charges”—is singing or considering singing.

    Seems to me a man facing “decades in prison” might be motivated to throw his pal under the bus for a more lenient sentence.

  126. 126.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    Incidentally, Gaetz’s [soon to be ex-??] fiancee, Ginger Luckey, is also yucky.

    She is sister to Palmer Luckey, Trump supporter and young billionaire, who founded Oculus VR (virtual reality headsets), and got fired from Facebook once his Trump-humping became known.

    The Guardian from September 2016:

    Oculus Rift founder Palmer Luckey spends fortune backing pro-Trump ‘shitposts’
    Facebook’s virtual reality headset creator is secret backer of a group dedicated to Donald Trump support through ‘meme magic’

  127. 127.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: Also, expired driver licenses were lying around because when people renew their licenses or switch from one state to another, they typically surrender their old licenses, which are then collected for shredding.

    One reason Greenberg got busted is because he visited a DMV branch after hours (with Gaetz!) and left a bunch of old licenses that were supposed to be in the “to be shredded” bucket lying around in the work area. That prompted the manager of that branch to contact him about the after hours visit.

    To quote something once said of a previous generation of GOP criminals, “These guys aren’t very bright, and things got out of hand…”

  128. 128.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 2, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    I just had my second shot… for shingles.

    (Asked for and got it at a doctor’s appointment scheduled for unrelated reasons. The timing’s right since I don’t become eligible to get vaccinated for COVID-19 until April 19th, which is right outside the two-week grace period they want you to leave after getting any other vaccination.)

  129. 129.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    @Amir Khalid:   You got it!!

    And fuck him.  Virtually.

  130. 130.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 2, 2021 at 1:13 pm

    @Elizabelle: He’s a terrifying Beavis-Butthead hybrid creature.

  131. 131.

    FelonyGovt

    April 2, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    So Katie Hill resigned from Congress because nude photos of her were being circulated, while Gaetz shared nude photos of women with his Congressional dudebros. That stinks.

  132. 132.

    Doc Sardonic

    April 2, 2021 at 1:16 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Apparently redrawn in 2015 after the redrawn 2014 map got tossed by a judge,so district 10(my old district) got carved up and rolled into 3 other districts 11,6, and 15. But even weirder is that his house district identifier says R-Clermont and according to Lake County’s map Clermont is in 15 so who knows, trying to figure this shit out gives me gas…..now I gotta go guitar shopping.

  133. 133.

    VeniceRiley

    April 2, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    @PST:
    @Al Z.: Who plays Gaetz? Armie Hammer.

    This made me throw up in my mouth a little; so. PERFECT.

    Oh and I did wonder if Ginger Luckey was related to Palmer – whom I have hated since he was doing anti-Hillary memes on behalf of Bernie.

  134. 134.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    Capitol on lockdown. Report of shootings.

  135. 135.

    germy

    April 2, 2021 at 1:20 pm

    @FelonyGovt:
    Here’s a tweet from last year:

    Many of you know @mattgaetz & I have an unlikely friendship. I can’t stand a lot of his beliefs but he’s been there for me when others haven’t. He talks about Nestor more than anything, has done so much for his son & is truly a proud dad. This #freenestor thing is bullshit. Stop. https://t.co/qqOx9opXzH

    — Katie Hill (@KatieHill4CA) June 18, 2020

    A more recent tweet:

    A 17 year old girl is a girl, not a woman. Statutory rape is rape, not anything else.

    — Katie Hill (@KatieHill4CA) March 31, 2021

  136. 136.

    Benw

    April 2, 2021 at 1:22 pm

    Ugh these guys are repulsive. Generically, clumps of (white) men sniggering at something is so gross and off-putting

  137. 137.

    Geoduck

    April 2, 2021 at 1:24 pm

    @MattF: Also reports that someone tried to ram their car through a gate.

  138. 138.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 2, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    @Elizabelle: FWIW mine will be April 17, the anniversary of my father’s death.

    If I’m not in the hospital. Heard a horrific story yesterday from one of the assistants at my dr’s office – massive side effects from vaccination including pulmonary involvement they’re still trying to figure out two months on.

    (Could be worse – one of my dance friends is under treatment for a non-COVID-related pulmonary embolism. Yikes!)

    I’m just hoping I’ll be sound enough after Moderna #2 tomorrow afternoon to drive 40 miles to my brother’s for Easter with the family (all masked except at supper). Not sanguine ATM (some queasy/chill after #1) but I will preposition electric blanket & carafe of hot tea for the evening & massive infusions of ibu & coffee the next morning & we’ll see.​

  139. 139.

    The Moar You Know

    April 2, 2021 at 1:30 pm

    I propose Butt-head to play Gaetz

    @Montanareddog: fuck, you beat me to it.  They are twins.

  140. 140.

    MattF

    April 2, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Do not overdose on ibuprofen. Your kidneys will thank you.

  141. 141.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:   I hope you will be well in aftermath of the second Moderna.  Keep us posted!  I hope you do get to spend some (masked) quality time with your family.  Has been a long time coming.

    Keep us posted!  Fingers crossed for you.

  142. 142.

    prostratedragon

    April 2, 2021 at 1:39 pm

    @Cameron:  Oh my, and my brother’s too.  Don’t think he does those things,  or did when he was younger,  either.  Y’all do have some notable offsets.

  143. 143.

    Matt McIrvin

    April 2, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: My doctor claimed today that there had been cases of COVID vaccination inducing shingles flare-ups… but these seem to be isolated anecdotes about something you’d expect to happen by chance every so often–there’s no evidence of elevated frequency:

    https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210209/experts-debunk-covid-19-vaccine-shingles-link

  144. 144.

    Ksmiami

    April 2, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: it frickking scorches at this point. GOP Delenda est

  145. 145.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I guess that’s the upside to their arrogance/hubris!

  146. 146.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 1:48 pm

    @FelonyGovt: I’m starting to think we should never resign because  of “appearances”.

  147. 147.

    Just Chuck

    April 2, 2021 at 1:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Here in Colorado, you keep your old out-of-state license, but only after they punch a bunch of holes in it.

  148. 148.

    LurkerNoLonger

    April 2, 2021 at 1:52 pm

    I love it when assholes get caught for being assholes. I hope Gaetz resigns, is prosecuted and goes to jail.

  149. 149.

    Betty Cracker

    April 2, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    @germy: I like Katie Hill, but I’m starting to think her judgment about people isn’t great…

  150. 150.

    Elizabelle

    April 2, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker:   Yup.

  151. 151.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 2, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    @Cermet:

    Woke up fresh as a daisy Wednesday morning after having felt like stepped on dogshit Tuesday. To me, feeling bad meant that it worked as advertised.

    Of course, I’m the guy who actually asks for stuff like mercurochrome on cuts to make sure I don’t get infected, sooooo…..

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker: As soon as I posted my previous comment, I read that tweet from Katie Hill and thought the exact same thing about her judgment.

  153. 153.

    Geminid

    April 2, 2021 at 1:56 pm

    @WaterGirl: Goobers like Gaetz and Greenberg don’t even have Hubris. They have Goobris.

  154. 154.

    feebog

    April 2, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sabatini sounds like a good fit.  These guys are all sound like wannabe party animals, and they like to hang with each other.

  155. 155.

    zhena gogolia

    April 2, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    @Al Z.:

    Ray Liotta. (although he’s too old now)

  156. 156.

    feebog

    April 2, 2021 at 2:05 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I spent a shitton of money getting Katie Hill elected, only to see her piss the whole thing away.  It’s even worse than it seems, because Christy Smith ran in the special and November elections against Mike Garcia and lost.  Smith was my assembly person and was pretty much a lock to be reelected for her state seat.  Now we have Republicans in both seats.  Smith just announced she is if for a rematch, but it is going to be ugly.

  157. 157.

    dopey-o

    April 2, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    If I’m not in the hospital. Heard a horrific story yesterday from one of the assistants at my dr’s office – massive side effects from vaccination including pulmonary involvement they’re still trying to figure out two months [email protected] Cosmo:

    could you be more specific about the after-effects? I have had 2 Pfizer shots, and am experiencing pulmonary problems.

  158. 158.

    zhena gogolia

    April 2, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    @Baud:

    That’s what I was going to say.

  159. 159.

    zhena gogolia

    April 2, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Yeah, I think it’s a good casting idea.

  160. 160.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    @feebog: Good judgment.  Having that is important.

    What the fuck is wrong with these people who run for office but don’t have it?

  161. 161.

    Brachiator

    April 2, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    Investigators believe Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector in Seminole County, Fla., who was indicted last year on a federal sex trafficking charge and other crimes, initially met the women through websites that connect people who go on dates in exchange for gifts, fine dining, travel and allowances, according to three people with knowledge of the encounters.

    I remember when this was called prostitution.

    I had not been following this story closely, but whenever I take a look, the level of sleaze increases.

    I love it when assholes get caught for being assholes. I hope Gaetz resigns, is prosecuted and goes to jail.

    Hell to the Yes on this!

  162. 162.

    zhena gogolia

    April 2, 2021 at 2:11 pm

    @NotMax:

    I was attending a webinar where the univ. president referred to a faculty colleague and his name was on the captioning as “Andy NASDAQ.”

  163. 163.

    Geminid

    April 2, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: My understanding is that Katie Hill resigned because so long as she held public office the Daily Mail could publish more compromising pictures of her and a campaign worker.  California law allowed the newspaper to assert a “public interest” to except it from laws criminalizing publication of “revenge porn.” Of course, the Daily Mail was really interested in its own circulation, not any public interest. But legal analysis was that this ostensible claim blocked Hill from any legal redress while she was still a public figure.

    If Hill had a stronger support system of close friends, she might have been able to bear the emotional cost of further exposure, and tough it out. Hill’s husband, though, seems to have been a dominant, emotionally abusive man. He probably blocked friendships that would have afforded her more emotional suport.

    Hill’s husband is a thoroughly despicable man. He exploited her, and when she told him that she would divorce him, he almost certainly is the one who gave the photos to the Daily Mail, as revenge.

  164. 164.

    WaterGirl

    April 2, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    @Geminid: I appreciate all the info.  Ugh.  The public interest exception to that law is bullshit.

  165. 165.

    Geminid

    April 2, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: I got this info from state and local nrwspapers that covered the matter in more detail than the national news. My assertion that Hill maybe did not have a clese support group is just a surmise, based on my own observation of power dynamics that I have observed in others.

    There is a picture of Hill on her first day of Congress that is very appalling in retrospect. She and Speaker Pelosi are standing near each other on a riser, perhaps after Hill had been sworn in. They both look somewhat uncomfortable, though, because standing between them is her husband, a large man with a big smirk on his face.

  166. 166.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    April 2, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    @NotMax: Sometimes it’s not “closed captioning” but “close” or “approximate”

  167. 167.

    J R in WV

    April 2, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    @danielx:

    I knew I’d seen it somewhere, but I got my second shot yesterday and have about a minute’s worth of flash to bang delay this morning. Never get headaches but bigod I have one today.

    After my second Moderna shot about the only thing that didn’t hurt was my head. 3 or 4 days later muscle cramps in places I had never had cramp up before.

    Would still get the vaccination, the lessening of stress is great, even with the back/front/shoulder ache.

  168. 168.

    J R in WV

    April 2, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    @Bluegirlfromwyo:

    Sean Penn has little physical resemblance to Gaetz but has insufferable douchebag down cold.

    Wouldn’t that be what the call type-casting? Seems like Mr Penn is actually insufferable, not sure about douchebag…

  169. 169.

    J R in WV

    April 2, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m not understanding the connection between the Drivers Licenses and trafficking.  What am I missing?

    And why would expired drivers licenses be sitting in that office?

    As I understand it, the DLs were turned in by people moving to his county, in return for a shiny new FLA driver’s license.

    Then he created phony driver’s licenses to use while attempting to procure V young girls/women for sex. Or something like that. Which seems more intelligent than you would expect from this douchebag.

  170. 170.

    cope

    April 2, 2021 at 4:33 pm

    @Al Z.: Consistent with my new policy of replying to posts once they have been triaged into ICU, I suggest Max Headroom play Mr. Gaetz.

  171. 171.

    evodevo

    April 2, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @SFBayAreaGal: ​
      Yes, this lol – we have to use it for Brokenwood, and the various Scots and Irish series – Yorkshire accents are often unintelligible as well…

  172. 172.

    rikyrah

    April 2, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @tom:

     

    Yeah for the shot.

    Boo for the side effects, but get through them and start the 14 day countdown to antibodies.

  173. 173.

    Ken

    April 2, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    @J R in WV: Now I’m wondering if that was part of the payment for going on a date with Greenberg- in addition to other gifts, the underage girls get a fake ID showing that they’re old enough to drink. That could be another whole set of charges, involving misuse of his public office.

  174. 174.

    There go two miscreants

    April 2, 2021 at 6:31 pm

    @NotMax: ​Carl Doughnuts.

    Stealth advertising!!! Do you find yourself getting the munchies?

  175. 175.

    debbie

    April 2, 2021 at 7:19 pm

    @J R in WV: 

    Has anyone mentioned James Franco? He’d be perfect.

  176. 176.

    bluefish

    April 2, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    @Al Z.: 
    My beloved and much missed Aaron Eckhart. With extensive work done by hair and make up.

    Thank You For Being An Idiot.

  177. 177.

    SFAW

    April 2, 2021 at 10:37 pm

    @Al Z.:

    I can’t wait for the Coen brothers take.  Who plays Gaetz?

    Were Grady Sutton still alive … nah, actually I think Sutton was probably an OK guy.

  178. 178.

    SFAW

    April 2, 2021 at 10:39 pm

    @bluefish:

    much missed Aaron Eckhart.

    Well, he ain’t dead, so what are you talking about?

  179. 179.

    SFAW

    April 2, 2021 at 10:42 pm

    @Suzanne:

    I never cease to be amazed by some dudes and the absolutely idiotic lengths they will go to in order to get laid.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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