New presidents typically record a welcome video for new U.S. citizens. "I want to thank you for choosing us and believing that America is worthy of your aspirations," President Biden says in his. https://t.co/CKqk0qwLK4
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) April 5, 2021
Congrats to @StanfordWBB, and their fans, on winning it all. Congrats to @ArizonaWBB on a great season.
And….yes, congrats to the @SecondGentleman. He called it. https://t.co/lYGnY4lT9B
— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) April 5, 2021
Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson will take some heat from his base for this, but credit where it's due. https://t.co/vPb1wdOd50 via @CharlesPPierce
— Esquire (@esquire) April 5, 2021
(Of course, the Arkansas legislature is expected to override Hutchinson’s veto, but his willingness to stand up for basic decency remains an indication that public pressure does work.)
And this is 17 minutes of fun…
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
“That time when Glenn Greenwald gave an interview to Howard Kurtz complaining about the media treatment of Trump supporters, said interview being lovingly retweeted by Limbaugh’s primary assistant and producer….”
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
You are on a GG kick lately. Feeling ok?
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
This is a Big Fucking New Deal
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Like Khan going on about Kirk, “he tasks me”.
debbie
Hutchinson listened to parents and medical experts and found that most of the RWNJ talking points were bullshit. He definitely deserves credit for his veto.
Cheryl Rofer
This is worth noting on the good news front.
It’s a report on how vaccines are being delivered to the public, how many through which means. There’s a lot of data to be considered. It looks like the FEMA sites are less effective than other means, but the FEMA sites have been operating only a little time.
If you’re into that sort of thing, you can download the data and make your own conclusions.
Imagine – an administration actually making the data that they’re working with available to everyone, rather than telling us that they’re doing a great job and shut up.
Baud
@Cheryl Rofer:
Sounds like work. Tweeting is much easier.
Geminid
@debbie: Arkansas Governor Hutchinson’s statement regarding his veto of the legislature’s anti-transexual law made the radio network news this afternoon. Hutchinson said that he believed that parents and medical professionals were best able to choose what is right for children. I thought this was a good, concise statement of the essential issue.
WaterGirl
@Geminid:
Trade out “women” for parents and “women” for children and you’d have a pretty good policy re: the right to choose.
Brachiator
Ah, the French.
While in the US, bikers violate isolation rules, and people rush to bars and the beach, the French know how to live it up. From BBC News
And some fine dining:
Fortunately, some of these folks may end up paying some hefty fines.
Major Major Major Major
Happy stuff, you say? Let’s see. The mRNA vaccines continue to be ridiculously effective in the wild. Oh, and the Supreme Court (less Thomas and Alito) decided you can’t copyright an API, which is great news for people who like using software.
Geminid
@WaterGirl: I thought the same. I don’t think Hutchinson would take this reasoning to its logical conclusion, but a majority of Americans do.
MomSense
Oldest and youngest kids have vaccine appointments. Youngest can only receive Pfizer so that limited our options. Middle kid in CT cannot get an appointment. He’s on every list with no luck. I couldn’t sleep last night so I got on the CT sites looking for options and everything was booked.
Brachiator
SAG Award winners.
I don’t think I have seen any of the films, apart from “Wonder Woman 1984,” which won for stunt work
Complete List:
Anne Laurie
@Geminid: Back in the day (but you probably remember this, too), we feminists used to point out that a government which could forbid abortions could just as easily turn around and mandate abortions.
(To which the response from anti-choicer was usually some variation on Yah, but Jeebus wun’n lettum... )
Baud
@Anne Laurie:
Given the Gaetz’s of the world, that is definitely on the agenda.
Geminid
@Anne Laurie: I do remember. But although I have always been pro-choice, I know I do not feel the urgency of this issue the way women do.
Craig
@Brachiator: Ted Lasso!!!!
WhatsMyNym
@Major Major Major Major:
Not quite, they ruled on a Fair Use issue.
Via The Register
Baud
Parliamentarian says we get more reconciliation bills!
Major Major Major Major
@WhatsMyNym: true they dodged that question and decided you can reimplement one, thanks for the reminder. Breyer’s explanation of what an API is was quite deftly written. Thomas and Alito’s claim that doing so is the same as pirating a novel, on the other hand…
ETA I had been absolutely dreading this decision so I’m glad it worked out.
Baud
@Baud:
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
But enough about Governor Newsom…. :-)
WaterGirl
@Baud: Oh yay oh yay oh yay oh yay.
I feel like my dogs when someone gets out a bag of treats.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Sounds like maybe just one more each year?
WhatsMyNym
@Major Major Major Major: It is very good news and opens up what you can do legally, but anybody who wants to push it too far will probably have to take it finally to the Supreme Court again.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
More detail from Politico.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/05/schumer-filibuster-senate-479109
Martin
@Cheryl Rofer: I would expect FEMA sites to be pretty ineffective. There’s a lot of social distance from them to the public, but I would also expect FEMA sites to be fillers for gaps in other parts of the distribution system. In other words – I’d expect them to serve the populations that the other mechanisms fail to. By tasking them with the difficult job, we should expect them to be statistically unimpressive, but actually pretty critical.
Major Major Major Major
@WhatsMyNym: I honestly don’t see how reimplementing an API can “go too far”? Breyer makes it clear that he (or clerks etc.) understands declarations vs executable code. And from where I sit this decision doesn’t open up what you can do at all, since people do this all the time, it’s a BS nuisance suit that doesn’t even have anything to do with its original purpose (patents), and has been assumed legal this whole time.
Martin
@Major Major Major Major: This is why I argue that computer science as a dedicated discipline should be quite small. It’s promise lies in domain experts acquiring it as a skillset, not by running zillions of students through it and then dumping them into industries they know nothing about.
Same holds for law. I’m guessing Breyer has law clerks that understand this stuff, because he sought out clerks that understand this stuff, and either Thomas or Alito didn’t, or that they don’t listen to their clerks on this stuff.
There’s no fucking way that anyone on the court actually appreciates the role of an API. I would feel much better about USSC rulings if I knew there were teams of advisory lawyers that were domain experts in, say, the internet or programming that were also lawyers. This is why some engineering programs have formed joint degree programs with law schools. We’re already badly failing the policy and legal challenge brought about by zero marginal cost goods because the folks writing and reading the laws don’t know dick about economics (let alone an area of economics that is quite new), and ML and other emerging technologies is going to make this so much worse.
Benw
Miley’s band was tight!
So many awesome bands are gearing up to put out new music this year: Royal Tusk, Slash, Glorious Sons, Ready the Prince, Brkn Love, just to name a few!
Major Major Major Major
@Martin: the district court judge who this decision affirms famously is a hobbyist programmer who taught himself Java for the case. I assume some of this comes directly from his writing.
Baud
@Martin:
They probably voted against Google because the right hates Google for being “biased.”
Dan B
@Martin: Yakima in the heart of Washington’s most productive agricultural region recently got a FEMA vaccination site. This part of the state had the highest rate of infection particularly among Agricultural workers, many of them Spanish speaking. It’s been a tough area for the state so is very welcome. It will deliver 1,200 shots daily. FEMA gets the tough areas.
Mary G
@Baud: Happy news!
Make them YOOGE, Chuck!
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I saw that Thomas wrote out some faffery today saying that Google and Twitter etc. should be regulated like utilities and be banned from moderating conservative content and also maybe Section 230 is unconstitutional? An extraordinary thinker. Love this new “conservatives for nationalizing the tech industry” movement
(I didn’t quite understand the point of the document and am on my phone right now…)
trollhattan
@Mary G:
President Manchen must be all excited.
It is a Big Biden Deal though. Double-win if Turtle is having a sad.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@Baud:
Gotta hand it to Schumer. Appointing Oprah as the parliamentarian was genius. “You get a reconciliation bill and you get one and you get one…”
J R in WV
Lots of good news here. New President welcomes new citizens to their new nation, API can’t be patented/copyrighted, Arkansas might not mess with Trans kids (will wait with baited breath)!
Miley Cyrus is a great performer, also, thanks for that video!
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Didn’t you hear? Conservatives hate corporations now because they’re “woke.”
raven
If Miley rates this definitely does
jonas
@Geminid: Indeed. It was also clear from Hutchinson’s remarks that the last thing he wanted right now was to have Arkansas labeled a state full of intolerant, fundamentalist knuckle-draggers. He was listening, as debbie noted, to doctors and parents, but I bet a few of the Walmart heirs were also on the phone telling him to sink this thing now. We’ll see how the override vote goes.
raven
@Benw: I didn’t know who the fuck she was until it was over.
jonas
@Baud:
I’m also reading some wingnut pundit was on Fox today calling Dems out for being “puritanical scolds” over the Gaetz case.
William Bennett, eat your heart out!
Michael Cain
@Major Major Major Major: Indeed good news, reaffirming a lot of prior case law. I assume there were friend of the court filings signed by famous CS professors telling the Court, “If you find for Oracle, CS departments might as well close up shop because many of our assignments will require the students to seek out licenses from one or more giant software firms.”
I have recently retired my Mac and made the leap of faith that I can do all the things I want to do on a Linux machine. (Full disclosures, there’s been some sort of Linux machine in our household since ’92, and I do have a Windows 10 virtual machine on the box.) I’m old enough that I can note at least in passing that Linux might have failed if AT&T and SCO had simply said, “The APIs are available to whoever wants to use them.” The free BSDs might have been serious competition for Linus if they weren’t tied up in court. (Add-on thought, Linus might well have won anyway because he would accept code from anybody, where the BSD groups had ego issues.)
Baud
@jonas:
The Death of Outrage indeed!
jonas
Miley Cyrus is a fine entertainer! She hasn’t been on my radar for years, frankly, since that whole swinging-on-a-giant-ball thing many years ago, but she’s got some pipes, even if lip-synced ones. Watching her perform in front of ten people trying to act like they’re at a real concert, tho, is pretty sad. I’m sure she and just about everybody in the entertainment industry can’t wait to be back in front of cheering crowds surging in front of your stage — performers really feed off that energy and doing your set like this must suck.
Honus
Games at 9:30? Who’s brilliant idea was that? I’ll be asleep before Miley Cyrus comes on.
Feathers
For my fellow Ted Lasso fans, the series is currently filming, so they did a short bit with Ted giving a pep talk about being nominated for the SAG Awards : https://youtu.be
I have a feeling Miley Cyrus will be with us for a long time, because she can actually sing.
raven
@Honus: West Coast, especially this year. I’ve got the youtube tv and I’ll watch it in the early hours when I awake.
NotMax
@Cheryl Rofer
Found this gem from the past someplace. Really did exist. Something to seek out and bring along to unveil for filling downtime at the next in-person nuclear conference. Almost guaranteed to provide
hoursminutes of fun for all ages.:)
raven
@jonas: My brother’s Floyd cover band played one of those drive in gigs in Lake Elsinore Saturday.
Brachiator
@trollhattan:
Ha! So true. But who could resist French Laundry if invited?
Robert Sneddon
@NotMax: After something happened in 1945 uranium became important for some reason. It was initially thought to be rare and difficult to find so there really were wildcatters going out to locate sources of uranium in deserts across the US and elsewhere.
It turned out when people looked around that uranium ore was actually quite common and readily mined in economically viable concentrations as well as being extracted from the waste heaps of other mining operations. There are even proven processes to extract it from seawater (3.3 parts per billion) although they’re a lot more expensive than regular mining right now.
Geminid
@Dan B: I remember an investigative news report some years ago that said Yakima had the highest per capita rate of anti-depressant prescriptions in the nation. If that is still the case, the locals ought to be able to take this FEMA vaccination site in stride.
I think the immigrants may be tending the apples, pears and cherries that grow in that area. A lot of Mexican immigrants came to my part of Virginia in the 1960s and 70s, to work in the apple orchards, and many became citizens in the 1980s. I’ve worked with and around some of their children who are moving into and up through the middle class. Many of the immigrant carpenter’s, masons’s and landscaper’s kids are on the same path. My friend Stephanie, a top-notch middle manager, believes that these immigrants’ children will be running this place in ten years.
VeniceRiley
@jonas:
While scolding Jill Biden’s tights in the next breath, no doubt.
Anonymous At Work
Arkansas Lege will take a day to override Hutchinson’s veto. If the veto override took 2/3 majority, Hutchinson would never have vetoed it. It’s a blatant and REPEATED maneuver that he uses to seem “respectable” and let the gerrymander Lege take any blame.
Added bonus, with Biden as President, is that Hutchinson can go on Sunday shows and talk about how he’d do things better and really be a “respectable” alternative and that there are “respectable” Republicans if only Biden would work with them, etc.
Triple-duty deception.
Jeffro
@raven: our high school alumni page has been falling all over itself congratulating ourselves for knowing Hubert oh and also for his achievement here ;)
Dan B
@Geminid: The stories out of Yakima are that only recently were any Latines elected even though they are a majority. I hope it continues because there are horror stories.
raven
@Jeffro: And well they should be.
Jeffro
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: where’s this article from? I wanna kick it out to some folks who need reminding about yes there IS a difference between ‘both sides’
raven
@Dan B: We used to drag our Honest John’s over there and shoot them at the range.
Baud
@Jeffro:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/04/us/politics/biden-hunger-programs.html
Baud
Life is so good that Bernie is on Chris Hayes and I don’t even mind.
ETA: Holy shit! He just suggested incremental reform to improve health care!
What the fuck Twilight Zone did I fall into?
Jeffro
@raven: true story: my dad actually believes he’s partially the reason that Davis ended up playing in the NBA, had a long and successful career, etc.
One time, leaving a high school game where Davis had done well but was taxed by an aggressive rival school’s offense, we (almost literally) ran into Davis on the way out. My dad told him he did great but ‘needed to bulk up, to hold those guys off in the paint’. Davis was like, “um yeah thanks”. Like he didn’t already have a bunch of other folks telling him that already (plus a million other tidbits of ‘advice’)
It’s a running joke in our family, both in this specific case and in our tendency to give unsolicited advice basically to anyone and everyone… =)
Benw
@raven: haha rock n fuckin roll
Jeffro
@Baud: many thanks!
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Wilmer is on Chris Hayes right now talking about this. I’ve never liked him better than I do right now!
raven
@Jeffro: I love it!!!!
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yeah, see my #64.
Noncarborundum
@Brachiator: I haven’t seen any of those, but any time Viola Davis gets an award is a good day.
gbbalto
@NotMax: There was some legend that in about 1947, some prospector guy went to the HQ of some big mining operation and claimed that he had found a rich uranium deposit on land that they had the mineral rights to, and he was willing to tell them where it was in return for a decent fee.
They decided “nah” then found out that someone was buying up their shares – the “prospector” – so they started buying and driving up the price – then the “prospector’ sold everything.
Probably not true, but I would like to think it happened.
Jeffro
Wasn’t Miley Cyrus doing something similar (and similarly horrible) at the Super Bowl with Billy Idol and others?
Come ON, rawk world, surely we can do better than this!
(but no need to bring back hair metal, plz)
NotMax
@Jeffro
Related:
raven
@Jeffro: yes
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: Yup. For all the blatherskyte about Himself having moved Biden to the left, St Bernard has pretty much adopted Biden’s stance on the biggest non-trump, non-pandemic issue in the Democratic politics. I was a bit surprised it didn’t get more attention
Mary G
Much the happy news:
Redshift
@Baud:
“Woke corporate fascism” is the term I see from the wingnut I follow on Twitter.
UncleEbeneezer
@Geminid: Not sure how up on this stuff you are, but in general, “transexual” is not a widely used term nowadays and many Transgender people take offense at it.
“As the GLAAD entry states, “transgender” is an umbrella term while “transsexual” is not. With these terms — and with most terms in the LGBTQ+ lexicon — it’s best not to apply a term to someone unless you know they would use that term. Some people will feel comfortable with “transsexual,” and others will not. If someone does want you to use “transsexual” to refer to them, they will probably let you know. But it’s best to not use it unless you know it’s what someone wants.”
https://lgbtqexperiment.com/2019/02/14/whats-the-difference-between-transgender-and-transsexual/
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Sometimes I have to remember to bite my tongue for the good of the country.
NotMax
FYI, from last summer.
Benw
@Jeffro: bah. She cranked out some killer rock with a band that delivered. Gatekeeping sucks, particularly against women who want to rock
WaterGirl
@Mary G: Do we also get 3 for 2021?
This doesn’t help us with voting rights, but it’s still wonderful news.
Jeffro
@NotMax: very good, thank you!
I am debating just how hard to lean in on the differences between the two parties and wonder aloud which one would be more in line with Jesus’ admonition to “feed the hungry, clothe the naked”, etc.
Depends on what kinda mood I wake up in tomorrow, I guess. ;)
Princess
@Cheryl Rofer: I got mine at a FEMA site and they did a great job. They’re doing 6,000 or so a day and I was in and out in half an hour, including the 15 minute wait. And everyone was so nice.
Jeffro
@Benw: Oh please don’t get too bent about it – I have the ‘gate keeping’ power of a piece of old masking tape, and a hard rock cover band is still just a hard rock cover band. If this is her new schtick then more power to her but sign me up for the next Joan Jett or Billy Idol (or just play the classics)
WaterGirl
@Mary G: Holy cow.
Mike in NC
@NotMax: The Orange Clown was a sociopath and a sadist.
Dan B
@Mary G: That’s amazing news about a potential vaccine regimen for HIV and other viruses. And there’s a Seattle connection – Fred Hutch. It’s only been nearly 40 years.
E.
@Mary G: If that’s true then a crisis like climate change, if actually seen as the crisis it is, can be solved too. So many smart people working hard together for a single purpose. Gives me hope.
NotMax
Couple of other FYIs.
1)
2)
Geminid
@UncleEbeneezer: I am not up on this nomenclature. Thank you. “Transgender” makes much more sense.
NotMax
@Mike in NC
No disaccord, except for use of the past tense.
;)
Benw
@Jeffro: no worries, I’m a bit sensitive to negative comments toward women who rock. But you are on the Joan Jett train so cool!
Sure!! I’ve found out the last few years that there’s a ton of amazing young rock bands flying below the radar and I’d be more than happy to deluge you with names!
dexwood
@Mike in NC: IS!
Jeffro
@Benw: hit me with your best shots…fire away… ? ?
Just Some Fuckhead
What happened while I was gone?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
(very twitter Nixon voice) My god. My god.
Just Some Fuckhead
@NotMax:
Really shocked to find out Gaetz was having sex with females. Having a hard time trusting the reporting on this.
Martin
@Mary G: Yeah, a big fucking door has been kicked open. mRNA vaccines are a game change, and Covid paved the way. Timing just worked out like that.
Another Scott
@Major Major Major Major: Yup. How could they decide otherwise after the ancient Lotus v Borland case (which, admittedly the SCOTUS tied 4-4 so the lower court ruling stood)? Fundamentally changing the rules about reusing APIs 25 years later would throw the world into chaos.
Cheers,
Scott.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
More evidence that the whole “cancel culture” complaints of the right were total bad faith BS. They’re so-called “principles” change when circumstances change. Never thought I’d see the day when Republicans attack corporations
gwangung
@Just Some Fuckhead: No, no….it all makes perfect sense.
It was the one of only two ways Gaetz COULD have sex with a woman.
NotMax
SNAFU anew.
“Disregard this bill” does not preclude its unpaid status rippling through the system, affecting things like someone’s credit history.
Major Major Major Major
@Martin: we figured out the write API to the immune system, it’s amazing.
Benw
@Jeffro: OK LOL hope these links fucking work
Metal:
Royal Tusk, Die Knowing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nozEWyrwzCY
Gojira, Born for One Thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p85-KtgDSs
Rock n roll:
The Pretty Reckless, And So It Went, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W-nlfhh8Uo
The Glorious Sons, Kingdom in My Heart, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T08FbFeXcHU
Brkn Love, Shot Down, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkLMzGtZBOI
Ready the Prince, Regicide, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE30pUPJZm4
Dirty Honey, Scars, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFbkWqM8iRQ
Indie/Alt:
St Vincent, Pay Your Way in Pain, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUTu65AXrJw
The National, Not in Kansas, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hLyVzfGu78
Bonus elder statesmen:
Slash (SMKC), Anastasia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8EmPA6H6g
Have fun
Benw
@Jeffro: oh hell, my comment’s in moderation because I put links to the songs in youtube. If it’s not cleared soon, I’ll comment without the links
Kay
For Easter! A day late:
James E Powell
@Benw: @Jeffro:
I’ve been saying for a while that I’d like to hear Miley fronting a hard rock band. New songs, not covers. Of course, she doesn’t take career advice from me. But I bet she could bring hard rock back into the mainstream, if only for a little while.
As for hair metal, I scorned those bands and their fans when they were all the rage. One of my covid isolation activities was to go back over the whole history of rock & roll. In listening to those bands, at a distance from their appearances and videos, I found a lot more good there than I expected. Hard rock is not everybody’s thing. It’s not really my thing, but there are some really good songs and performances that the outlandishness obscured.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
@NotMax:
Hard to believe a building would fall apart while under Dump’s management
The Dangerman
This is the game I expected of SC against Gonzaga. Except SC went full Trojan on us.
Hopefully this game isn’t a complete waste.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Mary G:
This is amazing!
@Martin:
I think I remember reading there was a lot of skepticism regarding Moderna as a company in the years prior to the pandemic. The naysayers were proved wrong and I think Moderna has a very bright future as a serious biotechnology company. Same goes for Bio-n-tech
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
@Martin:
Makes one wonder if this mRNA tech can be applied to treating things like cancer
Benw
@James E Powell: that’d be nice, the kids rocking these days are just awesome.
I’d love to hear what 80’s rock stands out to you. I was a fan at the time (you scorned me! haha) and I still love most of it
Benw
@Kay: omg that is too awesome!
Mary G
@Martin: Yep, people have been working on mRNA in tiny labs scrounging for money for twenty years to achieve this overnight success. Nobel Committee better recognize.
MisterForkbeard
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Or to the really important things, like love handles. :)
raven
@Benw: Petty and the The Boss.
NotMax
Attention engineers, home workshop mavens and DIY crafters – short notice as deadline is a smidgen over a fortnight away.
The US government will pay you up to $500,000 to design a less annoying face mask
Mary G
dmsilev
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Going after various types of cancer is what the founders of BioNTech really want to do with their techniques. The ability to crank out COVID vaccines was just a happy side effect.
SoupCatcher
@raven: The interstate goes through the training area for a small stretch. I remember driving from Seattle to Walla Walla and stopping around that point to take off my chains. I hadn’t been there more than a few minutes when a Stater parked behind me. He didn’t say a word, just walked up, dusted the snow off my rear plate, walked back to his cruiser, and then drove off after a few minutes.
Another Scott
@Anonymous At Work: I suspect as much.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Major Major Major Major
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I believe that’s thought to be one of the natural applications.
jonas
“Of course now that we’ve been caught, we’re desperately scrambling to cover our asses,” explained a spokesperson….
Jeffro
@Benw: whoa…I have my work cut out for me! Thanks (seriously)!
NotMax
@Benw
For future reference, limit for links in a single comment is seven.
Jeffro
I think the videos really screwed things up in many ways, for many bands.
“Separate Ways” by Journey – kickass song, horrendous video.
“Tears Are Falling” by Kiss – unbelievably great song, world-record awful video.
And so on. Like with everything Poison ever did, etc etc
Hair metal was also bad for all of the knock-off bands each earlier band ‘inspired’ (sometimes within a year or two of the original band hitting it big!) And yes, Faster Pussycat and Bulletboys, I am talking about you…
different-church-lady
my fukin god texans are stupid people…
Steve in the ATL
@Kay: Love it! Now there is a union even I can support.
Benw
@raven: obviously! Though they got started in the 70’s, is there any uniquely 80’s rock you like? Bon Jovi, GnR? TWISTED SISTER?
Benw
@Jeffro: you’re welcome!
:)
The Moar You Know
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): that’s what they developed it for in the first place. The COVID thing was a detour.
Benw
@NotMax: I know I know, got carried away. Thx ;)
mrmoshpotato
@Benw: Thanks dude.
Martin
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): My sense is no, mainly due to the nature of cancer. But it might work for damn near everything else.
Martin
@Martin: Oh, I need to amend this. It sounds like yes, it can work for cancer. What I was missing is that the approach is to take a biopsy of the cancerous bits, then create a mRNA vaccine just for you.
So no, no generalized vaccine, but an individualized one instead.
mrmoshpotato
OT – Go Mariners!
mrmoshpotato
Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win! Listen to the masked, physically distanced crowd!
The Lodger
@Kay: Today you posted the first thing I ever liked about Peeps.
TS (the original)
@jonas:
They seem to forget their past reactions to democrats so easily.
Al Franken, Katie Hill
Craig
@James E Powell: Guns and Roses was a fantastic rock band.
Jackie
ESPN is reporting the All Star Game will be held at Colorado’s Coors Field this July.
NotMax
@The Lodger
Yum (not, not, NOT).
Also too, when the paint has dried, the ice melted, the snail completed a lap at the Indy 500 track and you’ve absolutely, positively run empty of anything else to fill your time….
:)
Craig
@Benw: I’ll just once again highly recommend the documentary We Are Twisted Fucking Sister. Story of a journeyman bar band from Long Island. Documentary covers right up to their first MTV hit. Excellent film making
Benw
@mrmoshpotato: Enjoy!
Benw
@Craig: thanks, I’ll check it out!
James E Powell
@Benw:
I have a list somewhere, but didn’t make a playlist, sadly. The whole thing grew out of arguments with a group of friends. We argue about music when we are not arguing about sports. The starting point was “What defines a power ballad?” which led to “Top ten power ballads” which led to “Which hair metal bands are worthy of a review & reconsideration?” which led to “Are those guys really hair metal?” and so on.
For the record, I do not consider Van Halen or Guns n’ Roses to be hair metal bands.
Check out Dokken: Breaking the Chains & In My Dreams. George Lynch is just amazing. Under-appreciated.
coin operated
i remember people loosing their shit when Kurt Russel starred in ‘Used Cars’. Had to break that mold that Disney had him cast in for years. Miley and the wrecking ball kinda remind me of this dynamic. She’s got a world class set of pipes no matter what genre she chooses. Agree with the above…would love to see her front a hard rock band.
Another Scott
DougJ really does write FTFNYT headlines.
(via nycsouthpaw)
Cheers,
Scott.
Ruckus
@Martin:
The way it works, what it does, how effective it is. Something not as good in vaccines of the past. This should open up a lot of avenues of research and advancement.
Benw
@James E Powell: Dokken is killer! Dream Warriors!
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Oh Bretbug! You blood-sucking, furniture-destroying sack of shit!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Dangerman: The Bruins just tired out the Zags.
mrmoshpotato
@Benw: LOL!
mrmoshpotato
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Or did the Bears just outplay the Zags?
Doc Sardonic
@James E Powell: Hair metal was a term coined by music writers that were too fucking lazy…..looking at you Rolling Stone….to look at the different genres of heavy metal and hard rock. Hair metal was an off shoot of British Glam ie David Bowie, Faces etc and heavy metal. The hair and makeup was basically a marketing tool and device to scare the shit out of the Moral Majority.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@mrmoshpotato: While Bruins are bears, Bears in the PAC-12 are from NorCal.
Doc Sardonic
@mrmoshpotato: Baylor just flat smoked the Zags…..much like The ‘Zona ladies did UConn. Amazing how the media anointing the winner early can be a motivator.
mrmoshpotato
@Doc Sardonic: Looks that way from the play-by-play.
mrmoshpotato
C’mon Seattle!
different-church-lady
Jesus chist, just when I think images of COVID-19 can’t look any creepier, I see an animation of how the fucking thing jiggles…
Sister Golden Bear
@Major Major Major Major:
Nationalists, socializing industries… hmmm sounds familiar.
James E Powell
@Doc Sardonic:
Agreed. I just don’t know any other way to refer to that era and those bands that appeared from nowhere, were suddenly everywhere, looked & acted alike, then disappeared. These are bands that definitely not heavy metal, though I admit the distinction is mostly “know it when you hear it.” These are pop songs with loud guitars & drums.
Another band that does some interesting stuff is Britny Fox. I had never heard of them. There is interview with the drummer on youtube talking about howt hey I guess they all hate each other now.
cain
@NotMax:
Have we finally closed down Gitmo???
cain
@Benw:
I found that a lot of those big hair heavy metal bands have become asshole GOP people. Turns out living a lifestyle of misogyny makes you into a perfect male chauvinist pig in your later years.
Doc Sardonic
@James E Powell: A lot of the blame can be laid at the feet of MTV. Nirvana and grunge hit the scene and suddenly MTV switched gears to skateboards, knit beanies and flannel and poof an entire music genre essentially disappeared. The unfortunate side effect of that was the destruction of many bands due to their careers going poof and the excesses of the day taking it’s toll. Hell, for all intents and purposes Motley Crue is four dudes, four different buses and hotels, can stand each other for the duration of a set.
Craig
@Doc Sardonic: The New York Dolls album is a blueprint for both Never Mind The Bollocks, and Poison’s first album.
Mary G
Californios anxious to get the vaccine who can drive to Bakersfield can get one at any age 16+ or residency:
Craig
@James E Powell: you’ve seen Decline of Western Civilization II, The Metal Years?, yes?
Doc Sardonic
@Craig: Will not disagree with you on that. It is a wild journey to follow the map from Chubby Checker to Slayer.
Sebastian
@MomSense:
CVS and Walgreens load new appointments daily 10pm to 3am EST. Keep trying.
Sister Golden Bear
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Or as us Cal grads like to say, the Bruins are the baby bears, who copied our fight song, from the University of California, Lower Achievers. ??????
But at least we both hate USC, right?
different-church-lady
What’s all this fuss I hear about banning hair?
Doc Sardonic
@different-church-lady: ¿Que?
Sister Golden Bear
@cain: Alice Cooper is also a Republican, who now spends most of his days golfing.
Sadly, the Ramones were as well.
Benw
@cain: ugh that sucks
I follow Axl, Sebastian Bach, Slash, Kirk Hammett and a bunch of other 80’s rockers who are surprisingly woke
The Dangerman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I think UCLA exposed them a bit; I didn’t watch a lot of ball this year but Zags appeared to me to be a bit of smoke and mirrors. Like a magic act; once you see how the trick is done (see Penn and Teller, cups and balls with clear plastic cups) part of the mystery goes away.
It was a fine run and they are a fine team but when they started claiming best ever, I suspected they would eventually have a game like tonight.
Doc Sardonic
@Sister Golden Bear: Yep….Still puts on a good show though, saw him before the pandemic hit.
Martin
@Sister Golden Bear: Irvine is the Ant Bear (Anteater). Not an actual bear, but they tried to stay with the theme.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Sister Golden Bear: You spelled U$C wrong.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Dangerman: If they had gone into a second OT on Saturday, I think the Bruins would have been playing tonight.
mrmoshpotato
@Doc Sardonic: ?C’mon baby WAR ENSEMBLE!?
The Dangerman
@Mary G: I got my shot through Loma Linda Medical Center. They have all 3 shots. I got the one and doner Johnson.
It was ridiculously easy. They are prepped for huge numbers from all appearances but made the appointment this morning for this afternoon. No line at entry, barely a line when you got inside (not at the Hospital; at the University gym), I was done in about 20 minutes and that included the 15 minutes they make you wait to see if you have a reaction.
The Dangerman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Agreed.
James E Powell
@Craig:
The Dolls first album was one of those “few people bought it but those who did formed a band” albums.
And, yes, I have seen the first two Decline of Western Civilization documentaries. I Think three are streaming on Prime now. I might take another look
One thing almost all these 80s hard rock guys had in common was that they were very ambitious and hardworking. They were totally committed to being rock stars from a very early age and they just stuck with it. The ones in the Los Angeles area all knew each other and had been in bands together
They were very devoted, very focused on making it. None of these bands were “a bunch of us in art school were bored, so we started a band” or “my dad runs a huge international modeling agency. I met a guy in school in Switzerland and we started a band.” These guys were more the types who lived on drugs and cereal while sleeping four to a room. One of the guys, I can’t remember which one, walled off his sleeping area with his Marshall stacks.
Doc Sardonic
@mrmoshpotato: Reign in blood…and do the twist.
mrmoshpotato
@Doc Sardonic: That’s even better!
James E Powell
@Sister Golden Bear:
Johnny Ramone was the only right-winger in the band. The rest were either left-ish or apolitical.
RaflW
No new thread in 6+ hours. Pandemic exhaustion is real.
mrmoshpotato
Via @Green_Footballs
cain
@Major Major Major Major: Alito and Thomas need to just quit – if at this point you can’t educate yourself on what an api is – we are doomed. An API is nothing like a work of fiction.
An API is basically the interface how pieces of software talk to each other or how a human can interact with it. Furthermore you how it is implement can be completely be different.
A closer analogy could be a song – the song might be the same but how it is song is completely different and can completely change the meaning of the song.
gwangung
@cain: Conservative wing of the Court consistently embarrasses themselves when it comes to science and technology. I remember how they tried to grapple with evolution vs. creationism, and consistently came off poorly.
cain
@Mary G:
Still got to deal with Manchin who I believe is doing performative objections again and getting the rubes all hot and bothered again. He has gotta do that shit for his base.
But I think it is going to be hard for Manchin going forward.. but I’m glad he’s there and I hope that we can somehow keep the seat for a while longer. Meanwhile we definitely need to find more GOP seats to flip and add D.C. as a representation.
Mary G
@cain: Manchin has said he wants a $3-4 trillion infrastructure bill but doesn’t want to raise the corporate income tax because his CEO daughter made all the money screwing EpiPen users. Biden could close some loopholes and I think has a minimum corporate tax proposal so no multinational corp pays 0. There’s a deal there somewhere.
NotMax
@gwangung
Which is no different than grappling with product liability vs. gremlins.
NotMax
@Mary G
From what I’ve seen he’s okay with going from 21% to 25%, objection is to 28%.
(I hesitate to use the word “raise” and prefer to say “restore the corporate income tax to x%.”)
smike
@cain:
I don’t understand what that means, but I find it interesting.
piratedan
If you’re still looking for rockers check out The Hives
James E Powell
@piratedan:
I saw the Hives like a million years ago. It was the Veni Vidi Vicious tour. Sahara Hotnights opened. Damn good show.
rikyrah
@MomSense:
This might be a stretch, but are there Native American tribes in CT?
Are they vaccinating?
WaterGirl
@Benw: More than 7 links of any kind throws you into moderation or spam.
Benw
@WaterGirl: thanks, I’ll try to exercise some self-control next time :)
WaterGirl
@Martin:
That is amazing. I presume that’s the goal, not something that is possible now.
WaterGirl
@The Lodger: I know! You can taste the chemicals in the sugary colored part.
Mart
@David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: As I recall, horrified at the video of white Appalachian’s without food, Nixon essentially ended hunger in the greatest country in the world. Ain’t that hard to do, just need to get our leaders to recognize half the hungry are white.