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Open Thread – President Biden Delivers Remarks on Russia

by Cheryl Rofer|  April 15, 20214:36 pm| 86 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    April 15, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    Oh my. Someone is going to be on a Twitter rampage later.

    Oh wait….no, he’s not. Hahahaha.

  2. 2.

    Old School

    April 15, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    @Baud: A press release rampage?

  3. 3.

    natem

    April 15, 2021 at 4:45 pm

    @Baud:

    “So-called President Biden (everyone knows he didn’t win I did) trying to be tough on Russia, but he is hurting America instead and now the world laughs at us like a dog”

  4. 4.

    Baud

    April 15, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    @Old School:

    The fax machines will be running nonstop tonight!

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    April 15, 2021 at 4:50 pm

    Truly open thread? How refreshing (pun intended).

    So, girded up the loins enough to open this quarter’s Medicare bill without blanching. (Few things worse than blanched loins, right?)

    Cost dropped from the amount of the prior bill. By a mere 1% but down is down.

  6. 6.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    @natem:

    and now the world laughs at us like a dog 

    I could see the Kremlin’s orange shitstain writing something this stupid.

  7. 7.

    John Revolta

    April 15, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    @Baud: ​
     “On the Rampage, Pip, and off the Rampage, Pip:–such is Life!”

  8. 8.

    natem

    April 15, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I spent way too much time on Twitter the last four years

  9. 9.

    bnateAZ

    April 15, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    How many days since a press conference?-Newsmax

  10. 10.

    Benw

    April 15, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    @natem: funny but waaaaay to coherent.

    @mrmoshpotato: now, now. I laugh at my dog all the time when he does stupid shit

  11. 11.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    We have an ASL interpreter and a picture.  Soon…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  12. 12.

    Martin

    April 15, 2021 at 4:59 pm

    @Benw: I always interpreted that as the dog doing the laughing.

  13. 13.

    Yutsano

    April 15, 2021 at 5:00 pm

    @Baud: He’s not alone….

  14. 14.

    Brachiator

    April 15, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    @natem: 

    “So-called President Biden (everyone knows he didn’t win I did) trying to be tough on Russia, but he is hurting America instead and now the world laughs at us like a dog”

    Odd. Whenever I turn on the international news, I see other countries praising us and applauding us, and happy to work with us.

    But the GOP base lives in their own special reality.

  15. 15.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:04 pm

    Thanks for this. It is such a relief not to have a POTUS who’s VVP’s lapdog.

  16. 16.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:06 pm

    That was short and to the point.

    Biden’s said it before: he’ll work with Russia when he can, but he’ll respond to meddling in US elections and threatening military action in Europe.

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    @natem:

    I spent way too much time on Twitter the last four years 

    No judgement.  Dump’s bullshit wasn’t something you could really ignore, even if you wanted, given his position at the time.

  18. 18.

    debbie

    April 15, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    I apologize for not being able to keep up with everything, but has Biden announced new sanctions yet? I thought I heard a number of Russian officials would be expelled/deported/whatever.

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    The President of the United States has the interests of the United States at heart. What a refreshing change.

  20. 20.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    @Benw: But does your dog laugh at you?

  21. 21.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    @debbie:

    NEW: Biden announces retaliatory measures in response to Russia's election interference, hacking and other malign activity pic.twitter.com/DgYEIT0tld— John Kruzel (@johnkruzel) April 15, 2021

  22. 22.

    Jeffro

    April 15, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:Biden’s said it before: he’ll work with Russia when he can, but he’ll respond to meddling in US elections and threatening military action in Europe.

    Fox: “Biden indecisive, trying to have it both ways”

  23. 23.

    Benw

    April 15, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    @Martin: it was just a silly joke, no need to hound me ;)

  24. 24.

    Jeffro

    April 15, 2021 at 5:12 pm

    Might be a good time for some info about trumpov & Co and Russia to come out, just to remind everyone that the former guy was Putin’s bootlicking stooge.

  25. 25.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    @debbie: Yes. New sanctions on a number of Russian officials and businesses. Looks like a move toward cutting Russia out of the international financial system. Also some Russian diplomats expelled.

    White House Fact Sheet

    I understand your not being able to keep up. The past few days I’ve felt like we’re back to the constant news cycle. But this time, some of the news is good, and none of it is that the president has threatened to nuke some country or revoke out constitutional rights.

  26. 26.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    @Jeffro:

    I think the Trump-Manafort-Kilimnik-Russian intelligence linkage that was made by the Treasury Dept. today is a pretty big story, or should be.

  27. 27.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:  I liked that he made it explicit that he could have gone much further. It leaves Putin an opening to ratchet down his actions.

    I wonder if the Summit will be before the Duma elections. I’m sure Vlad would want it before…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  28. 28.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 15, 2021 at 5:14 pm

    @Benw: you never want to belabrador a joke to the point where the humor is irretrieverable.

  29. 29.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    It’s as if we were living in a house with no locks on the doors for four years and now the locksmith has come. I know the analogy is silly, but it was my gut feeling after seeing this statement.

  30. 30.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    @Jeffro:

    WaPo link:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/15/government-finally-connects-line-trumps-campaign-russian-intelligence/

  31. 31.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    @Another Scott: There was a tweet earlier today quoting Putin that he wouldn’t attend a summit, but I haven’t seen it confirmed.

    Biden is playing hardball. Putin will look like the junior partner, but there are many reasons for him to participate in a summit.

  32. 32.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    @Jeffro: Do you really want detailed information about how Dump sucked the Kremlin’s asshole for at least the past 4 years?

  33. 33.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 15, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Precisely.

  34. 34.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    Some are complaining that he didn’t mention Navalny. I didn’t expect him to do that at all. That would just be dangerous grandstanding.

  35. 35.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks. I was going to include that Kilimnik linkage in an earlier comment and forgot. The Treasury Department, of all places, is saying that Manafort shared campaign polling information with Kilimnik, who sent it on to Putin. The most that any US government department has said about that very strange activity.

  36. 36.

    debbie

    April 15, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Thanks!

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 5:20 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Terrierible.

  38. 38.

    fuckwit

    April 15, 2021 at 5:20 pm

    Corporations are not leftist. Corporations occasionally side with leftists because some core right wing values– racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia, anti-immigration prejudice– are bad for corporation’s top-line sales and available labor pool for talent.  But that is only an alliance of convenience we should leverage. When it comes to labor rights, progressive taxation, regulation, and a number of core leftist values, corporations are and will always remain our enemies.

  39. 39.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Do you mean this one? “v blizhaishee vremia” is pretty vague and subject to change.

    The Kremlin says that there won't be any Biden-Putin summit in the near future, due to the US sanctions expected to be announced today https://t.co/wjncLlN69u— Mike Eckel (@Mike_Eckel) April 15, 2021

  40. 40.

    debbie

    April 15, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    I’ll tell you what’s refreshing: Government documents with punctuation so good, a very long sentence is not at all ponderous:

    This includes, in particular, efforts to undermine the conduct of free and fair democratic elections and democratic institutions in the United States and its allies and partners; engage in and facilitate malicious cyber activities against the United States and its allies and partners; foster and use transnational corruption to influence foreign governments; pursue extraterritorial activities targeting dissidents or journalists; undermine security in countries and regions important to United States national security; and violate well-established principles of international law, including respect for the territorial integrity of states.

  41. 41.

    Benw

    April 15, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: only when I do stupid shit…. like post on BJ!

  42. 42.

    Jeffro

    April 15, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    @zhena gogolia: yes!

    @mrmoshpotato: no!

     

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    I was going to include that Kilimnik linkage in an earlier comment and forgot. The Treasury Department, of all places, is saying that Manafort shared campaign polling information with Kilimnik, who sent it on to Putin. The most that any US government department has said about that very strange activity.

    You mean…that very strange activity that showed Russia where and how to really concentrate its online disinformation efforts?

  43. 43.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 15, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: If a Biden-Putin meeting, whatever it is called, is held to discuss (among other things) Russia’s occupation of Ukraine and Ukraine is not a full partner to that phase, as it looks from what I’ve seen of the preliminary leaks, that will be very bad. Ukraine has agency – this would be like Mom and Dad discussing plans relative to their grown, emancipated child’s future in that child’s absence.

    Ukraine’s Ambassador to Germany, today, quoted in German press (sorry, only link at this time in Ukrainian) says Ukraine has two choices: NATO membership or rebuilding the nuclear capability they gave up in 1993. Yes, I know those were Soviet weapons, not Ukrainian, but who reasonably believes they do not have the technical capability now?

  44. 44.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Yes, that was the tweet. But I haven’t seen that anywhere else.

  45. 45.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    @Jeffro: Presumably that was the purpose. But the evidential trail has been thin enough that no other agency was willing to make that claim.

  46. 46.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    @debbie:

    Beautiful!

  47. 47.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 15, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    OT – Olive and Mabel

    Mabel’s gonna need a bath

  48. 48.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Michael McFaul, former ambassador to Russia, agrees with you.

    A Biden-Zelensky meeting in Kyiv would be ideal. Biden has visited the Ukrainian capital many times. (I traveled with him there in 2009.) He could then pop over to Geneva or Vienna to meet Putin. Easy day.

    — Michael McFaul (@McFaul) April 15, 2021

    It’s going to take time to set up a summit with Putin. Let’s see how this goes.

  49. 49.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:  I’m sure that Blanken’s team is talking with Ukraine, but it would be inappropriate for them to have a seat at the table with Biden and Putin. It’s a get reacquainted meeting to lay down markers and figure out a path forward for better and more meaningful relations going forward, not a peace summit (or whatever) to redraw borders.

    tl;dr – It’s fine and appropriate for them to speak up now, but the will lose if they demand to be at the table at this meeting.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    April 15, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    I would be very surprised if they did not consult Ukraine first. They don’t strike me as people who haven’t thought of issues that have occurred to us on BJ.

  51. 51.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Yes, I know those were Soviet weapons, not Ukrainian, but who reasonably believes they do not have the technical capability now?

    ?‍♀️

    They have no enrichment facilities, nor the radiological facilities to handle and form the fissile materials. I doubt that their explosives industry has the capability for the high precision required. They do have a very good missile factory.

    If you mean in terms of intellectual capability, I agree. But it’s a long way from there to building bombs. The ambassador is making (largely) empty threats.

  52. 52.

    Spanky

    April 15, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Do you really want detailed information about how Dump sucked the Kremlin’s asshole for at least the past 4 years?

    Yes. I want to see it in the indicting documents.

  53. 53.

    Spanky

    April 15, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    @Another Scott:

    I’m sure that Blanken’s team is talking with Ukraine

    Blanken? Blinkin.

  54. 54.

    Cheryl Rofer

    April 15, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    @Spanky: Blinkin?

    Blinken.

  55. 55.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 5:40 pm

    @Spanky: Whoops.  I usually check, but didn’t that time.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 15, 2021 at 5:40 pm

    @Spanky:

    Blanken? Blinkin.

    /nods/

  57. 57.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: From the firm Blanken, Blinkin, Blinken, and Nod.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  58. 58.

    Spanky

    April 15, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: /Winks

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    April 15, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    Progress on Notre-Dame, two years since the fire (which, I’m convinced was started by Trump).

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-56761834

    Lots of fascinating tidbits on the recovery and restoration.

  60. 60.

    trollhattan

    April 15, 2021 at 5:50 pm

    @Spanky:

    Blanken is Michael Jackson’s kid, I’m pretty sure.

  61. 61.

    Seanly

    April 15, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    Wow, I just watched the video of Gym Jordan questioning Dr. Fauci. He was harping on how the pandemic response is such an affront to all of our 1st Amendment rights while Fauci stuck to his guns that it’s a public health. Jordan just comes across as an aggrandizing asshole – asking a 2 minute question and then throwing out another question before Fauci can finish answering the first rambling question.

  62. 62.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 15, 2021 at 6:03 pm

    @Seanly:

    José @josecanyousee
    “You need to respect the Chair and shut your mouth.” -Congresswoman Maxine Waters addressing Jim Jordan going over his time

  63. 63.

    debbie

    April 15, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    ? ? ? ? ?

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    April 15, 2021 at 6:08 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What a dick.

  65. 65.

    Spanky

    April 15, 2021 at 6:11 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Blanken is Michael Jackson’s kid, I’m pretty sure.

    I thought that was Binky.

  66. 66.

    burnspbesq

    April 15, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    @NotMax:

    I’m curious to see what happens to my monthly Medicare bill after I file my 2020 Federal income tax return, which will show about $150k less income than my 2019 return.

  67. 67.

    burnspbesq

    April 15, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Dump sucked the Kremlin’s asshole for at least the past 4 years

    Gee, thanks for that. I’ll be over shortly to vomit on your carpet.

  68. 68.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 15, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: …this would be like Mom and Dad discussing plans relative to their grown, emancipated child’s future in that child’s absence.

    Actually you missed the much more trenchant analogy:

    It would be like Germany, the UK, France and Italy meeting to discuss the future disposition of Czech territory without inviting the Czechs.

    But hey, that’s such a ridiculous concept, who could imagine such a thing ever happening?

  69. 69.

    trollhattan

    April 15, 2021 at 6:23 pm

    Tots and sprayers.

    Former Vice President Mike Pence underwent surgery to have a pacemaker implanted after experiencing “symptoms associated with a slow heart rate,” CNBC reports.

  70. 70.

    Mary G

    April 15, 2021 at 6:23 pm

    Auntie Maxine gives Gymnasium Jordan the fuck around and find out treatment. Good for her.

    O/T since I am now often sleeping through the night, including at 3 a.m. here when Anne Laurie’s fantastic coronavirus report comes out, I am so glad to be able to say that Orange County CA, despite the shenanigans of a few idiots in Huntington Beach, had only 65 new cases of covid reported today, the lowest number as far as my eyes can see the tiny chart, since April 23, 2020.

    Plus, the youngest covid fighter to date:

    Little ? boi #Piglet #Rescue #NeuterMe pic.twitter.com/jBxBFoBxZg— M_Crouton (@m_crouton) April 15, 2021

  71. 71.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 15, 2021 at 6:24 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I’m generally bad with analogies and short on time right now, so you win.

  72. 72.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 15, 2021 at 6:25 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: ​Blinken.

    Or Winken. Or Nod.

  73. 73.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 15, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Thanks for the clarification. Glad to hear an actual expert’s view.

  74. 74.

    MomSense

    April 15, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That was so satisfying.

  75. 75.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 15, 2021 at 6:33 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Hospodi Bozhe, don’t get bent out of shape. I credit you with more than enough familiarity with Central & Eastern European history that I was gobsmacked it wasn’t the very first thing that occurred to you.

  76. 76.

    Ajabu

    April 15, 2021 at 6:37 pm

    @Spanky:

    Michael Jackson’s youngest child, Prince Michael, was nicknamed Blanket but after years of bullying now calls himself Bigi. He’s 17.

    A full service blog…

  77. 77.

    Ken

    April 15, 2021 at 6:38 pm

    @trollhattan: Mike Pence … “symptoms associated with a slow heart rate,”

    The fly knew.

  78. 78.

    Ken

    April 15, 2021 at 6:39 pm

    I always though Blinken sounded more like a Tolkien dwarf, but whatever.

  79. 79.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 15, 2021 at 6:40 pm

    @trollhattan: My kneejerk reaction waas that he won’t be microwaving his own lunches​ from now on…but apparently that hasn’t been a thing for a good long while. (Dang.)

  80. 80.

    SargassoSink

    April 15, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    @debbie:  That’s fairly ponderous, for me. If you’ve written a sentence where the clarity would be materially enhanced by structuring it as numbered subsections, it’s probably too long.

  81. 81.

    R-Jud

    April 15, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    @Spanky, @Cheryl:

    I feel like Blinkon, Blinkun and (sometimes) Blinkyn should’ve got a look in here.

  82. 82.

    PaulWartenberg

    April 15, 2021 at 7:05 pm

    I’ve been sent to Twitter Jail for the next 6 days!

    Can someone cover for me while I’m unpersoned?

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    April 15, 2021 at 7:08 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: What did you do?  Do you have sins to confess?  :-)

  84. 84.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    April 15, 2021 at 7:11 pm

  85. 85.

    Another Scott

    April 15, 2021 at 7:59 pm

    @Ajabu: Thank you.  I kept going through the lyrics to “Billie Jean” and not getting it…

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  86. 86.

    stinger

    April 15, 2021 at 10:50 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    /nods/

    /laughs out loud/

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