Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

We are aware of all internet traditions.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Republicans in disarray!

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

A Senator Walker would also be an insult to reason, rationality, and decency.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

“But what about the lurkers?”

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

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The junior senator from Vermont has been quite cordial with President Biden, so I’ve done my best to avoid paying attention to some of his… most fervent supporters. But the mainstream media’s usual gang of idiots is busily platforming the concept that ‘true Progressives’ have beaten and terrorized poor senile Uncle Joe into meekly adopting their extremely correct ideas, which is toxic bullsh*t. Repub-supported / Repub-supporting bullsh*t!

With Joe Biden running a near-flawless presidency that is capable, progressive, and popular, his leftist and socialist detractors, who spent an entire year hounding him as a milquetoast moderate, have a new strategy: claim, as Donald Trump did for the spread of COVID, that “no one could have predicted” that Biden would turn out to be a progressive president, that his lean-in economic progressivism is a surprise, and that they made him do it.

I, too, have a new message: they’re full of it.

I am old enough to remember a February morning in 2020 when the socialist writer Anand Giridharadas appeared on television with MSNBC’s Joy Reid, with the topic of conversation focusing on just what was turning so many Democrats to a populist socialist candidate like Bernie Sanders. Sanders, who was swimming in campaign cash, was riding high at the time from performing well in Iowa (where he still lost), New Hampshire, and Nevada, and his supporters were crowing about how quickly – not whether – he would clinch the Democratic nomination for president and make the rest of us “bend the knee”.

A smug Giridharadas then declared that the “mass movement” Bernie Sanders was leading was so historic that it was messing up people’s ‘mental models’ as the ‘establishment’ – read Joe Biden and his allies – was in disarray in their desperate attempts to stop the renaissance man, Bernie Sanders…

Biden would, however, go on to win the presidency by proudly brandishing his anti-socialist credentials, earning an unprecedented 81.2 million votes while he was at it. The fundamentalist left’s deep antipathy towards Kamala Harris could not keep her from becoming the first Black, Asian, and woman Vice President, either.

Even after Biden won the presidency, they kept up the naysaying and hounding during the transition, pummeling the then-President-elect for failing to nominate leftist sycophants to prominent positions in his upcoming administration.

Despite it all, now that President Biden is implementing the policies he laid out during the campaign and brocialists tried to claim he did not really believe in, they find themselves between a rock and a hard place: do they keep whipping up outrage among an increasingly small, fringe group of political activists against a president who enjoys a 95% approval rating among Democrats, or do they try to become relevant and somewhat mainstream? When you get this much wrong in this short a period of time, attempting to rebrand yourself as a surprised moose isn’t exactly… well, a surprise…

Never forget, while it has some excellent reporting, the Atlantic has always been a Libertarian outlet. Ergo, their bias will *always* be towards Republicans — but if the Cosplay Socialists want to bash Democrats, they’ll cheer on the Cosplay Socialists.

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  1. 1.

    Kent

    All I know is that I’m very much enjoying the fact that I can get up tomorrow and go to work and know that the government is in capable hands and I don’t need to rely on twitter or blogs to learn about any new outrageous bullshit like just about every single day of the previous 4 years.

    Amazing how relaxing that is.

    Of course still enormous amount of work to be done. But at least I feel less exhausted

    I think Biden is exactly the right person for this exact moment in time.  That doesn’t happen very often in history.  Just like Obama was the exactly right person to follow up Bush.  If Biden had run and won in 2016 I think he would have had a successful presidency.  But it would have been very different without the Trump exhaustion as the prelude.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    Honestly I think we need to take a moment out of each day and just celebrate that Joe Freakin’ Biden is President, along with – for the moment – House and Senate majorities.

    And then we need to pray that they step on the gas and get this country somewhat close to back on an even keel, to include protecting voting rights, publicly investigating the 1/6 insurrection, and making the wealthy & corporations pay their fair share.

    Go go GO folks! I get that the whole country is exhausted from Covid and the election and the aftermath but just step. on. it. Go for broke.

  4. 4.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    I’ve always wondered: what do Rose Twitter/brosocialist types who claim that there’s no real difference between the parties say when confronted with Republican voter suppression laws like the ones passed in Georgia?

  7. 7.

    Jeffro

    Btw you know the urgency is real when Ben (who?) Carson (what?) feels the need to have an op-ed in the Post about championing equality instead of equity.  How is this clown not fading back into obscurity and wealth?  (Also, who ghost-wrote this op-ed?)

    Ben, I thought we talked about this on the plane ride we shared a couple years ago…when things are way, waaaayyy unequal, asking that everyone be treated the same just reinforces the inequality.  It takes an equity approach to set things to rights.  (sigh)…

  10. 10.

    The Moar You Know

    They always say the military is gearing up to fight the last war.

    These idiots are still trying to figure out who is going to fight the Tsar for liberation of the fatherland.

  12. 12.

    Delk

    We just had four years of an administration filled with self-centered incompetents we didn’t  need four more.

  13. 13.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Jeffro:

    I’m going to guess based on the title alone it’s a warmed over “Liberals are the real racists and this is reverse racism” or something

    @Kent:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    @Doc Sardonic:

    Nothing, huh? I know it’s something I’ve never heard any of them talk about. Probably because that’s an actual real difference between both political parties

  15. 15.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @NotMax:

    Just curious if anybody’s ever asked them this. It’s a pretty good argument that Dems and Republicans are different in a significant way.

    Personally, I think they’d try the “it’s overheated” arguments we’ve seen from similarly privileged moronic “journalists” on Twitter

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    the neoliberal hellscape that we’re living in right now

    This made me fucking cackle.

    Would someone get Briahna her unicorn butler already!

  19. 19.

    cain

    @NotMax: ​
     
    This reminds me of the first computer program I ever wrote.
    10 cls
    20 print “hi!”
    30 goto 20

    Entered in every radio shack store I ever went to.

  20. 20.

    Cheryl Rofer

    I wrote a few posts a month or so back working through Biden’s policy documents to show that he’s doing what he said he’d do. It’s too late to dig out the links.

    Those documents, however, are very general. He has accepted some of Bernie’s specifics. But he’s definitely in charge. As I said on Twitter tonight, the Biden team has a plan, and they are working through it

    ETA: Headed to bed now.

  21. 21.

    different-church-lady

    At the very least the advantage of having Biden over Sanders is that the person in the Oval Office is no longer a human lightning rod.

  25. 25.

    Doc Sardonic

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  The Rose Twiddler/BernieBroskies have less notes than a 1 string guitar. If it isn’t forgive all the student loans, Medicare for everybody, or whatever well manicured, polished policy unicorn turd Bernie puts out tomorrow, they generally don’t give a shit about it….They just like hearing their own voices, and counting the retweets, kinda like the MAGAts but with sensible shoes and a non dairy latte.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    @cain:

    They would have said that their candidate would have rallied the people, blah blah blah, and he would have dealt with Georgia and still get in a swim session before dinner. 

    Fuck the what?  Vermont Jesus himself said his supporters would tell him what to do once he was in office, and his supporters would’ve made Moscow Mitch shit a brick of lettuce when they assembled enmasse outside Mitch’s office window.  Booga booga buncha hipsters!

  29. 29.

    Kent

    @different-church-lady:
    And if Sanders is truly such a leader, perhaps he can lead Sinema and Manchin over to the light. If he can’t do that as a Senator, there is no reason to think he could have done it as President.  And we would still now be at exactly the same place.

  30. 30.

    featheredsprite

    AL, let it go. You won.
    And if you want Dems to do well in 2022, it would be better not to wage war against others in the big tent.

  31. 31.

    burnspbesq

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    what do Rose Twitter/brosocialist types who claim that there’s no real difference between the parties say when confronted with Republican voter suppression laws like the ones passed in Georgia?

    Most likely, they change the subject. Or deny ever having said that.

  33. 33.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Slightly OT, saw this press release like article from one of my local TV news stations:

    Local GOP selling out events, riding wave of enthusiasm

    CANFIELD, Ohio (WKBN) – Ten years ago, selling out a large banquet hall for a Republican Party function in Mahoning County would have been unheard of but not anymore.

    Donald Trump won Mahoning County in November, and many of those who supported him showed up Friday in Canfield. In these days of few tickets being printed, it was the hottest ticket in town.

    “We’re expecting 550 people tonight. It’s just great to see the excitement,” (Mahoning GOP Chair) McCabe said.

    It was Mahoning County’s Lincoln Day dinner, an event to celebrate everything Republican. It was sold out. Sixty people were on a waiting list and McCabe knows why.

    “You know Donald Trump in 2016 was partially responsible for this. We kind of rode this wave, and this is exciting,” he said.

    It was a who’s who of Republicans. Congressman Bill Johnson, Secretary of State Frank LaRose, State Senator Mike Rulli, State Representatives Al Cutrona and Mike Loychik, and Columbiana County Republican Party Chairman Dave Johnson. There were three Republican candidates for U.S. Senate Mark Pukita of Columbus, investment banker Mike Gibbons of Cleveland, and former state party chairwoman Jane Timken.

    “I’ve spend the last four years fighting for the America first agenda, proudly championing President Trump’s accomplishments and plan on doing that in the U.S. Senate,” Timken said.

    Gibbons talked about his campaign, too, saying we are not sending the right people to Washington.

    “I think if you are going to the U.S. Senate, you have to have some history of accomplishment, done something more in your life so you know what the real world is all about, and that’s not the people we’re sending,” Gibbons said.

    Pukita talked about the direction of the Republican Party.

    “I really believe we need to move the Republican Party to a populist, economic, nationalist kind of direction. We need to be the party of the working person,” Pukita said.

    McCabe didn’t know what would happen after Trump lost the election, but the big turnout eased that concern.

    “We were a little concerned going into 2021 after the presidential election and what happened with the results,” McCabe said. “I really think this is here to stay.”

    The guest speakers for the dinner were Trey Gowdy, a former South Carolina Congressman and Mark Robinson, the first black Lieutenant governor of North Carolina.

    Not one fucking word about the Jan 6th Insurrection. None of these fucks to my knowledge condemned it. Loychick and Cutrona, my state Rep, are the ones co-sponsoring a bill to rename Mosquito Lake State Park after TFG. Can’t rename the lake because that’s federally-owned or something. But the park would be named after him.

    These jerks are all up Trump’s ass to advance their political careers and it doesn’t matter to them who they hurt or what they fuck up. I despise them. I’ve never liked the corrupt ConservaDems that populate most of local politics where I live, but I’ll take them any day over the crazies that populate the local GOP.

    I’m worried about what November’s results and what this event’s turnout means for the area. It’s a mostly white area so it’s all driven by white grievance

    Also, LOL at the “working person’s party” comment. Sorry, you guys cut huge corporations’ taxes back in 2017 and screwed over working people UNDER TRUMP. I also can’t fucking believe this guy used the term “nationalist”. Like, do you even hear yourself? Y’know who ELSE was a nationalist? Benito Mussolini. And Francisco Franco. They’re not people to be emulated

  34. 34.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @featheredsprite: in a sensible world, Anne Laurie would have a larger profile than clowns like Giridharadas, Sirota and Grey, but in the world we live in, your advice is somewhat…. misdirected

  36. 36.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @featheredsprite:

    We were all told we had to “bend the knee”. Remember that? And that Sanders’ campaign thought it was just fine to get a bare plurality in the primaries and that gave them a mandate

    Honestly, at this point, Sanders’ own supporters give him a bad name. He at least has the sense to try to protect his legacy by cooperating with Senate Dems and the Admin

  38. 38.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Kent:

    Yup. Some of Sanders’ ideas were great. I like European social democracy. But Sanders himself, I feel, would be a terrible administrator which is a lot of what the presidency is. A big reason why I didn’t like Sanders in 16 or 20 was that I don’t think he has the temperament for the job or the accomplishments to qualify him for it.

    He’s been in Congress for 40 years. What had he actually done in that time? I can’t think of anything

  39. 39.

    Anne Laurie

    @featheredsprite: AL, let it go. You won.

    I am, by temperament and training, incapable of ‘letting go’.  Best I can do is to save my bile for off-hours, among my spiritual kinfolk.

    (Also, I don’t believe the True Progressives *are* gettable Democratic votes, though I understand your point about not scaring the normies by returning blow for blow.)

  40. 40.

    cain

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): ​

    Honestly, he was probably smarter than the people he hired. Which seems somewhat contradictory – but there you have it.

    Also, fuck Sirota – seriously that guy is a whiny ass shit stain – I hope he finds himself locked in Greenwald’s basement tied to a bed and forced to watch old West Wing episodes.

    ETA #40? hmm.. I can’t remember should I be excited by this? ? – let’s assume a celebratory position regardless. ???

  41. 41.

    different-church-lady

    @cain:

    I hope he finds himself locked in Greenwald’s basement tied to a bed and forced to watch old West Wing episodes.

    Dude, Geneva Convention for god’s sake.

  42. 42.

    Mary G

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Bravo! Good comments tonight.

    I have Anand and BrieBrie blocked on Twitter and the silence is golden. The rest of their ilk as well. I had a hard time scrolling past when six or seven of the people I follow were yelling at an unavailable tweet for a while, but I learned to do it.

  43. 43.

    cain

    @different-church-lady:

    Oh too much? I suppose we could bring some of Cole’s crows to keep him company.

    I must admit anything in Greenwald’s basement is probably some kind of infraction to common decency – but if Sirota finds himself there I’m sure he deserves it.

  45. 45.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Kind of like Repukes. Hmm. ?

    @Jay:

    I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with tankies online. They’re bizarre people

    @Doc Sardonic:

    @NotMax:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    I would prefer to ignore them, if only some of them hadn’t taken over the formal NV Dem Party apparatus

    @burnspbesq:

    A common theme I’m sensing is how much alike they and MAGAts are

    @mrmoshpotato:

    @cain:

    Oh, I know. I still hate them all. November still stings

  46. 46.

    Poe Larity

    Perhaps Trump and Sanders can start a populist nationalist party. I wonder what they’d look like in Hugo Boss attire.

  47. 47.

    Kent

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): He’s done some good shit.  But in areas that might surprise people not paying attention.  Like in Veterans Affairs.  But as a very traditional senator, lining up co-sponsors and stuff like that.

    He hasn’t done shit in all the famous areas that he campaigned on.

  48. 48.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @featheredsprite: Every once in a while, it doesn’t hurt to vent.  Also, if the tankies really are on our side, do they really need their asses to be kissed?  They should be fucking grown-ups and look at the same threats we do and then vote for the Democrats in 2022.

  49. 49.

    Doc Sardonic

    @Anne Laurie: The inability to let go and also nurture, savor, and raise a grudge to a fine strapping specimen is something that is shared by any that have but a single molecule of Scotch or Irish hemoglobin. I’m right there with you, I will never, ever drop my disdain for these people. Unlike the good people of Rockridge, I do not have a laurel and hearty handshake for them, but an upraised middle finger and a hale and hearty Fuck You.

  50. 50.

    Kent

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Doesn’t mean jack shit.  They will always be able to turn out a few hundred people in Trump Country for any sort of circle jerk.  Winning elections is a different task entirely.

    Not saying 2022 and 2024 won’t be barnburners.  They will be most likely because we are a narrowly divided country.  But not because some old while folks went to rallies in deep red Trump Country and got their willies stroked.

  51. 51.

    artem1s

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I’ve always wondered: what do Rose Twitter/brosocialist types who claim that there’s no real difference between the parties say when confronted with Republican voter suppression laws like the ones passed in Georgia?

    they will tell you that states that have closed primaries are far more hellish than the GA voter suppression laws. Wait until the Dems kill caucuses. The gnashing of teeth will be endless and epic.  They are still whinging about the evil registration laws in NY that cost Bernie the nomination in 2016.

    They had a complete meltdown last March because the neoliberal Dems colluded with Wall Street to steal the nomination from St. Bernie once again. They actually sued the state when Mike DeWine delayed the 2016 primary due to the first COVID shut down.  Only a neoliberal shill would delay the vote long enough to make sure the OLDS could vote for Biden by mail.  They were so counting on scaring old people from voting in person, winning that crossover vote and sealing the deal before those less important states voted on Super Tuesday

    Don’t kid yourself.  They love voter suppression as much as the GOP does

  53. 53.

    different-church-lady

    I find that in many cases when people say “let it go” it’s only because they want to have it all for themselves.

  54. 54.

    Geminid

    @Mary G: One thing I have found on Twitter is that there are a lot of articulate, committed Democrats pushing back at leftie soreheads like Sirota and the Jerkobin Magazine crowd. @Sasha Beauloux is one of the best. She is very earnest and well grounded.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    @cain: Honestly, he was probably smarter than the people he hired. Which seems somewhat contradictory – but there you have it.

    Another one of Professor Parkinson’s Laws:  First-rate men hire other first-rate men.  Second-rate men hire third- or fourth-rate men.

  57. 57.

    Citizen Alan

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Well, this is anecdata, but back in 2016, I had a good friend who nevertheless was the epitome of “cosplay Marxist.” And I finally asked him point blank, “if there’s no difference between Trump and Hillary, who the hell are you voting for?” And after hemming and hawing, he finally told me that he really liked Eugene Puryear. This brought me up short as I considered myself more politically aware than nearly anyone else I know on a first name basis, and I had never heard of Eugene Pureyear. So I looked him up. And then I looked up Gloria La Riva and the Party for Socialism and Liberation. And then, I finally understood. Because there really is no difference between Republicans and Democrats if your number one policy goal is the destruction of capitalism and “the end of class society.” I should add that at this point in time, my friend, who apparently supported an outright and unabashedly communist candidate was also the VP for Intellectual Property at a somewhat prominent game design company. I never got around to asking him if his employers knew that he wanted their company to be nationalized.

  58. 58.

    CaseyL

    @Mary G: ​
     

    I’ve spent some quality time on my Twitter feed blocking MAGAts and Cosplay Socialists. It’s amazing how pleasant Twitter can be when you take out the trash. Also a good reminder that Twitter is not real life – something the MSM guest bookers will never acknowledge.

  60. 60.

    Urban Suburbanite

    I have no idea who Chakrabarti is, but that piece stinks of courtier press. I can’t tell if he’s hoping to jump on a backlash against Chairman Sanders or he wants to be seen supporting Biden.

  61. 61.

    Citizen Alan

    @featheredsprite: The problem is with the ones who aren’t even in the tent. The ones who openly hate our tent and everyone in it, and who want to burn our tent down so that the rest of us will be forced to go join their tent, the one with the big red hammer & sickle flag flying over the top.

  62. 62.

    cain

    @Anne Laurie:

     

    Another one of Professor Parkinson’s Laws: First-rate men hire other first-rate men. Second-rate men hire third- or fourth-rate men.

    In this case, he hired grifters. But an apt quote.

  67. 67.

    cain

    @Citizen Alan: ​
     
    Yeah, a good way to be a minority party. Frankly, I have yet to see the communist/socialist experiment work anywhere. China doesn’t have unions, the worker unions in Russia doesn’t seem to have any particular political power that I can discern, and in Brazil labor unions are struggling – Cuba prior had unions but again it’s a military dictatorship (or was?) so .. dunno what is up with just your general human rights.

    All in all.. it seems like a mixed bag to me.

  69. 69.

    smike

    @cain: ​
     

    ETA #40? hmm.. I can’t remember should I be excited by this? ? – let’s assume a celebratory position regardless. ???

    Maybe you are confusing it with 42:
    “The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.”

  71. 71.

    Ruckus

    @artem1s:

    Don’t kid yourself.  They love voter suppression as much as the GOP does

    Well I’d bet there are fewer of them and while they have “leaders,” they really are more like a pile of dried leaves in a windstorm, going whichever way the wind blows on any particular day. Voter suppression is as much of friend of theirs as it is to the grumpy old pricks party.

  73. 73.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    Sirota, Dayden, and BriWi?   Wasn’t April Fool’s Day 3 week ago?

    I guess Susan Sarandon and Cornell West were too busy on French Riviera to comment.

  74. 74.

    Noncarborundum

    @cain:

    Q: Why do computer programmers spend so long in the shower?

    A: The instructions on the shampoo bottle say, “Lather. Rinse. Repeat.”

  76. 76.

    James E Powell

    @Kent:

    But not because some old while folks went to rallies in deep red Trump Country and got their willies stroked.

    Mahoning County may be Trump Country; I’m sure racism is as common there now as it was when I lived in Ohio. But I wouldn’t call it deep red. That county gave Obama 62% and 63%.

  78. 78.

    Rusty

    If any of these folks had bothered to read Biden’s website with his policies during the election, they wouldn’t be surprised with his actions.  They were very progressive and we’ll thought out.  As for Bernie, I was leaning toward him 2016 until he had the terrible interview on banking before the NY primary.  I went and read his campaign site on his policy position.  It was a link to his proposal to eliminate big banks.  The whole thing was really like 4 lines.  Identify big banks, 30 day review and eliminate them.  This was his signature policy?  I’ve seen better plans from drunks on a cocktail napkin.  It’s then I realized he was all talk but zero depth on anything.  There is a reason with 40 years in office he has accomplished so little.  No thanks.  Joe said what he would do, and is working toward it.  No drama, just competence.

  79. 79.

    quakerinabasement

    Bah. Got through that whole post without seeing a mention of black voters, especially black women. Joe Biden is in the White House today because black women voters saw how Joe Biden served a black president and they gave him their trust. When the road to the nomination headed for South Carolina, Joe Biden’s fortunes changed. And it wasn’t white voters who made that happen.

    And, by the way, thank you all for putting this country back on the rails.

  81. 81.

    James E Powell

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): 

    He’s been in Congress for 40 years. What had he actually done in that time? I can’t think of anything

    If Sanders is remembered at all, he will be remembered for helping put Trump in the White House. I’m not saying it’s fair, but it’s the most impactful thing he did.

  82. 82.

    mrmoshpotato

    @James E Powell: If Sanders is remembered at all, he will be remembered for helping put Trump in the White House. I’m not saying it’s fair, but it’s the most impactful thing he did.

    Damn. Straight.

  85. 85.

    The Dark Avenger

    At least Radical Centralists have the wisdom to shit up about Biden’s promise to work with Republicans, unless you’re Manchin or Sinema, who have learned less from 01/06 than anyone outside the Rethuglican party.

  88. 88.

    The Dark Avenger

    What did Biden do when he was in the Senate?  Besides help his credit card buddies in Delaware?

  89. 89.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    ?????

    Jet Propulsion Lab/NASA — (MARS) Flight control confirms Ingenuity helicopter successfully took flight on Mars earlier today.​

     

    Holy Shit!

  91. 91.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    I have to admit to watching the data come in live as the team learned they had a successful flight. I felt like a kid. It was amazing to watch the team see the first pictures of their hard work. Congratulations, Ingenuity team! David Betts (@Dabetts_burgh) April 19, 2021

  95. 95.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    @Baud: ​
    first photo is from Ingenuity’s onboard camera photographing it’s shadow in flight

    Second photos and video from Perseverance

  97. 97.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Rusty: 

    If any of these folks had bothered to read Biden’s website with his policies during the election, they wouldn’t be surprised with his actions. They were very progressive and we’ll thought out.

    I’m an old Jesus freak, so not only do I believe people can change, I have a bit of experience with it.

    HOWEVER: while one should always be open to the possibility that people will change for the better, one should never rely on their doing so before their claim that they’ve changed starts manifesting itself in better actions.

    So: Biden had a long track record as the Senator from MBNA, including the abominable 2005 Bankruptcy Act. And there were words he said on the campaign trail and on his website.

    One could hope he meant the words, but anyone counting on them would have been a fool until he had the chance to prove them with his actions. The problem being that he wouldn’t get that chance until he was President, and it would be too late if we were wrong.

    I’m more glad than I can express that Biden’s turned out to be the right person for this moment. But deep skepticism was entirely warranted.

  98. 98.

    SFAW

    @artem1s:

    Don’t kid yourself.  They love voter suppression as much as the GOP does

    I know you’re pissed at them, as are many/most of us, but this is a little silly.

  100. 100.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Doc Sardonic: @Anne Laurie: The inability to let go and also nurture, savor, and raise a grudge to a fine strapping specimen is something that is shared by any that have but a single molecule of Scotch or Irish hemoglobin

    Viz.,  Irish Alzheimer’s – defined as “when you forget everything but your grudges.”

  101. 101.

    SFAW

    @Doc Sardonic:

    but a single molecule of Scotch or Irish hemoglobin.

    I’ve been told that “Scotch” is not a nationality nor ethnicity. Although it may be a religion with some, I guess.

  102. 102.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    Just so I’m clear, by “tankies”, do people mean “avowed communists who approved/would have approved of Stalin sending the tanks into Prague”?

  105. 105.

    J R in WV

    @cain:

    …We could discuss the contents of Greenwald’s basement…

    I always thought that was where they did Glenn’s Porn Film work?

  106. 106.

    CAM-WA

    their [The Atlantic’s] bias will *always* be towards Republicans

    I’ve been reading The Atlantic’s columnists for a long time, and the above is an overstatement.  Yes, they have some columnists whose brand of Libertarianism tilts (i.e., is biased) toward Republicanism, but to characterize the entire magazine as having a Republican tilt is at best an exaggeration.

  107. 107.

    Brachiator

    they find themselves between a rock and a hard place: do they keep whipping up outrage among an increasingly small, fringe group of political activists against a president who enjoys a 95% approval rating among Democrats, or do they try to become relevant and somewhat mainstream?

    They will cling to the fringe. It’s what they do. The fringe is their happy place.

  109. 109.

    Earl

    I see Anne Laurie is still on her anti-Bernie nonsense.  With claims that Biden was just *obviously* a progressive.  That would be Chairman Biden of the Clarence Thomas nomination and the sandbagging of Anita Hill — was obviously a progressive and we would have been idiots not to take him at his word.  Despite his well-documented behavior.  Biden, who couldn’t be arsed to even apologize until *2019* [1] for lying to Hill, allowing the confirmation to turn into a circus, and not calling other witnesses that could have validated Hill’s claims.

    [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/us/politics/joe-biden-anita-hill.html

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