In an effort to keep up the Cheney family track record of forever not understanding the current moment, Liz steps up to the plate:
As House Republicans continue their retreat in Orlando on Tuesday, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) is making waves for an interview in which she did not rule out a 2024 presidential bid and suggested some senators in her party won’t be viable presidential candidates because of their role in challenging the 2020 results. […]
She added: “I do think that some of our candidates who led the charge, particularly the senators who led the unconstitutional charge, not to certify the election, you know, in my view that’s disqualifying.”
Though she didn’t offer names, that description would apply to a couple of ambitious Republicans, including Sens. Ted Cruz (Tex.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.).
“I think that adherence to the Constitution, adherence to your oath has got to be at the top of the list,” Cheney said. “So, I think, you know, that certainly will be a factor that I’m looking at and I think a number of voters will be looking at as they decide about ’24.”
I’m sure “a number of voters” will be looking at that — we call them “ex-Republicans”, Liz. That said, I agree that Hawley and Cruz probably won’t get the nomination, but only because someone else will out-Trump them (including, perhaps, Trump). In fact, the Senator most likely to be damaged by the voter fraud claim is probably Kyrsten Sinema, who is currently embracing the filibuster that will kill voting reform at the same time that her state is having a batshit crazy recount led by “Cyber Ninjas” that will serve as a launching pad for more efforts to disenfranchise everyone in Arizona who isn’t old and white. Unfortunately, Sinema seems more interested in her Instagram presence.
Also, while I do like a good JRubinBlogger column sticking it to Republicans, her hope of some sane alternative to the Republican Party rising from the non-ashes of the current party is also out of touch. If your best bet for a leader of your new party is the terrible, no-good, awful Liz Cheney –someone who doesn’t have the political capital to run for an open Senate seat in her home state — you don’t have much of a bet, do you?
raven
yo
Spanky
Definitely rooting for serious injuries in the ’24 gop primary process
Eta and why tf are we starting up on ’24 already? ’22 is going to be fraught.
AxelFoley
Third!
raven
fuck it
Four Seasons Total Landscaping mistermix
@Spanky: I agree that it’s way too early to talk ’24 but if Republicans are going to go to war now over ’24, why not?
Nicole
Thank you for the Hall & Oates reference. I love this song; it’s on my run mix.
artem1s
Sorry Liz, according to your pals in the GQP you don’t have the right
equipmentexperience to run for the WH. And just because you were willing to throw Mary under the Fundagelical Bus won’t win you any friends down in Colorado Springs. Best you can hope for is that the next member of the Bush Crime family gives you a cabinet appointment – not likely but I’m sure Turdblossom will be on hand and ready to grift $750M out of the Party coffers to fix the 2024 election in Ohio for anyone who is willing to pay the price.Taken4Granite
@Spanky: If your enemy is drowning, throw them an anchor.
Gvg
It doesn’t matter if she is out of touch with nutty voters. Someone has to be the first, second and etc to step up and say these treasonweasles are wrong, even if she goes down in flames, and the next and the next, then someone will catch the right moment by luck to begin to coalesce a rebuilt second party. We really bitched about old style republicans retiring instead of fighting and voting against the nuts, even while noting they would lose re election during Trumps term in office. This is what fighting back looks like, at least a little.
they also need to rebel against McConnel just as urgently, IMO.
Real conservatives don’t have enough in common to become democrats, so they need to fight the radicals their way. We are designed to have 2 parties. We just can’t work with the radical anti government white supremists. Actual conservatives aren’t being listened too because most of them went along with the mean kooks, but they are always going to exist.
Also an actual argument among “themselves” will likely spark some actual thought among their voters. They have trained themselves not to listen to democrats.
Joe Falco
@Spanky:
The usual talking heads and pundits are fueling the horserace speculation because that’s all they have to talk about. They can’t get any juice out of the invented scandals of the Biden administration so it’s back to breathless “will-they-or-won’t-they” coverage of the murderous clown car that will most likely be the ’24 Republican presidential primary. I’ve already been inundated with calls to my land-line phone recently about whether I’ll vote for the ’22 Republican Georgia state primary (but at least that makes more sense than if they asked about ’24).
BruceFromOhio
I would enjoy this shitshow parade of fail so much more if it didn’t mean the end of this splendid experiment in democracy.
Splitting Image
The problem with a new party rising out of the ashes of the Republicans is that it could only happen if the Republican leadership were out of touch with Republican voters, and there is no evidence that it is.
70 million people voted for Trump because Trump is what 70 million Republican voters want in a leader.
Baud
She’s a man eater.
Chyron HR
Out of Touch Thursday isn’t for two more days.
Roger Moore
@Spanky:
Because our political media is disfunctional. They’re excessively focused on elections over policy, and the WHPC is dedicated exclusively to the President. That means we have a group that is naturally going to start thinking about the next presidential election as soon as the previous one is over.
MP
MP
rp
@Gvg:
This is a good point, although I would go further and say that the media is also trained not to listen to democrats, particularly when it comes to calling out the craziness of the GOP. Having Cheney say that republicans like Hawley and Cruz who supported the attempted coup should be disqualified from the presidency helps to normalize that idea.
lowtechcyclist
I can’t go for that – no can do
ArchTeryx
@lowtechcyclist: Seems to be a Hall and Oates type of thread, doesn’t it?
Cameron
Unless something really strange happens, it’s going to be DeSantis. He feeds the animals the offal they love.
lowtechcyclist
@Spanky:
@Roger Moore:
And scandals, but point well taken.
There are dozens of active policy topics being discussed these days – the various different parts of the proposed infrastructure package, the voting rights bills, the minimum wage (which Biden just raised for Federal contractors), the PRO Act and other union-related issues, climate change, law enforcement reform (seems like something unfortunately happens every few days to remind us of the necessity), whether ‘vaccine-hesitant’ people are really no more than that or are they more ‘vaccine-hostile,’ the list goes on.
But the talking heads on the TV are all rich, so policy is just a fucking game to them. It doesn’t affect them, except maybe cap gains being taxed as regular income.
Baud
@ArchTeryx:
Say it isn’t so.
Betty Cracker
Pure fantasy to imagine Cheney will get anywhere near the 2024 GOP nomination. She’s far more likely to get bounced out of her House seat by angry Trumpsters.
But where do y’all think Republicans will go from here? They’re in a bigger pickle now than they were post-Dubya, but even at that low point, their diabolical, astroturf tea party rebranding effort succeeded beyond my worst nightmares.
I’m increasingly convinced they’ll settle on DeSantis as the bridge to the post-Trump era. Hopefully he would promptly lose to Biden and/or Harris if so, but I could see a pig-headed troll like DeSantis putting the party back together even in defeat.
The pundit class is already giving him near-daily tuggies for non-existent accomplishments and intellectual heft, and he’s winning the dumb-fuck base over with performative lib-owning. There will be no rise from the ashes, only further rolling around in the muck.
lowtechcyclist
@ArchTeryx: We’re all feeling our Oates this morning.
@Baud: Well played. :-)
Another Scott
It’s about time they got some serious Judean People’s Front / People’s Front of Judea action going on.
Relatedly, Wonkette:
I’m half expecting a “Draft Musk for Dear Leader!” movement in the GQP to start just after his SNL appearance on May 8. Who cares that he was born in Pretoria and has South African and Canadian and US citizenship? What really matters is he’s argle barle now!!1
:-/
“If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.” – Herbert Stein
Unfortunately, Stein’s Law does not say when it will stop…
Cheers,
Scott.
cain
@AxelFoley:
3rd is nothing compared to power of the 2nd!
cain
@ArchTeryx: It’s always been a bananarama thing here.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Nor what it will look/be like when it does
Nor how much damage will be done in stopping it.
lowtechcyclist
@Another Scott:
“If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.” – Fudd’s First Law of Opposition
trollhattan
@Cameron:
Don’t rule out Pompeo, he certainly isn’t.
Although Desantis is a lot easier to market than Mikey, but then so was Trump.
Joe Falco
@Another Scott:
I read about Doug Collins, TFG’s House attack poodle whereas Graham was the Senate version, and his decision not to run in ’22. I’m not sure what his real intentions, but if the infighting has caused even the extreme yet effective political campaigners to temporarily retire, that’s a good thing for our chances in Georgia. Now we’ll have to see if Georgia’s version of Alan Keyes (Walker) will actually announce if he’s running against Senator Warnock or not.
Ken
We got injuries in the 2020 GOP primaries. Whichever Bush that was, won’t be running again; same for a lot of them. And look how that turned out.
Nicole
@Baud:
We can’t help it. She’s a rich girl. And she’s gone too far.
Shalimar
@Cameron: DeSantis has to win re-election in 2022 first. It doesn’t seem like it with all the statewide Florida elections Republicans have won in the last 15 years and how much they have gerryrigged legislative elections, but Florida is still a 51/49 state. DeSantis can lose. National media loves him more than Florida media does.
WaterGirl
@MP: If you changed your mind, great. If you were having trouble commenting, let me know.
MJS
I’ll add another Hall and Oates reference soon.
Betty Cracker
@Shalimar: You’re 100% correct about the Florida media not falling for the DeSantis bullshit like the national media does. It would be great if we nominate someone who defeats him next year, but after watching the state-level party’s fail parade for decades, I’m not counting on that.
If I ran the zoo, my angle would be to set the stage by stirring up trouble between DeSantis and Trump. TFG is such an impulsive, narcissistic dick — he’s probably already chafing at all the national political commentary suggesting that DeSantis could pick up the mantle as the “competent Trump.”
It wouldn’t take much to goad Trump into active sabotage. [insert diabolical cackle emoji here]
MJS
@MJS: Wait for me (please, wait for me).
MJS
@MJS: There, did it in a minute.
Ken
“Although a current female Senator from the US state that borders only one other — I will not mention names here — has in the past…”
Geminid
@Shalimar: In 2018, Desantis won by 33,000 votes. Before him, Rick Scott won by 66,000 in 2010, 60.000 in 2014. These elections had 5 million or more votes cast. If I had to bet on next year’s race, I guess I would put my money on DeSantis. But I would not give odds.
cain
@Geminid:
But recall that the GOP apparatus loves them some voter fraud – we know that a lot of the close calls and fall over to GOP is because of shenanigans.
James E Powell
A Republican civil war might make my dreams come true.
randy khan
Speaking as someone who wants the Republicans to lose every election, northing would delight me more than Liz Cheney and like-minded never-Trumper types starting a third party. Just imagine if they could skim off 10% of the Republican vote, maybe for the next 5 or 10 years. So I definitely encourage it.
lowtechcyclist
@Betty Cracker:
It’s been awhile since I looked at the numbers, but my recollection is that the Tea Party’s 2010 success had less to do with any Teahadist wave than too many discouraged Dems staying home.
IMHO, that was a combination of the weak economy, especially with the Stimulus spending fading out in early 2010, the Dems’ general impotence once they lost Senate seat #60, and Obama & Co. thinking we were still in a world where the campaign didn’t start until Labor Day.
Looking at 2022, at least, it’s pretty clear that Team Biden’s aware of and responding to all this, though this time the second point is more up to Manchin and Sinema than under his control. While I’m not expecting the Dems to hang onto Congress next fall, I really don’t expect a blowout. It’s just unfortunate that the Dems didn’t preserve a bigger margin in the House than they did last fall.
With respect to 2024, I think what Wonkette said that Another Scott quoted upthread is relevant:
It’s gonna be quite a dance on the GQP side while everyone waits for TFG to decide whether he’s running. I think he’ll freeze the field for quite a while, but will ultimately not run.
In 2015, TFG was stepping into a structure that was already there: the debates were sitting there, waiting for him to jump in. In the 2024 cycle, he wouldn’t have that: if he’s in, everyone else steps aside, and the debates go away. He’d just be making a lot of speeches, and I don’t see that working nearly as well for him in 2023-2024 as it did in the past.
Also, he’s going to be 77 years old in 2023, and not a very fit 77 either. (Definitely not ‘spry.’) So I suspect he’ll make a late-ish decision to not run, perhaps after testing the waters with a few campaignish speeches, and we’ll see a somewhat abbreviated GQP nomination campaign.
As far as who gets the nom, I confess I have no freakin’ clue. But I think the brownshirts, er, GQP voters, will be looking for someone who can fire them up beyond anodyne lib-baiting. I have no clue about whether DeSatan is capable of that or not; I’ll leave that call up to you and your fellow Floridians.
If I had to make a WAG, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tucker Carlson ran. (Still disgusted to find out that I share an alma mater with that fucker. Tempted to write the alumni office and ask if there isn’t some way the college can publicly disown him.)
trollhattan
@MJS:
I’d pay the devil to replace her. (Just sayin’)
Another Scott
@Betty Cracker: Someone in FL should be picking Claire McCaskall’s brain about how [WARNING – POLITICO:] she handled Todd Akin in 2012…
Cheers,
Scott.
Jeffro
I’m picturing:
All while we organize like hell, and Biden & Co continue their successful run at actually making Americans’ lives better. Should make the contrast pretty distinct in ’22, ’24, and beyond.
It’s never a done deal but I like our chances. The GQP is ripe for implosion any number of ways.
marklar
Don’t count Cheney out too soon.
Her campaign can rely on her old man’s money pals.
Barbara
@Gvg: Agree that someone needs to provide the counterweight to the crazy from the Republican side. Cheney has about as safe a Republican seat and donor base as anyone in the House. I assume she knows that and has therefore decided to be the brave one howling into the wind for now.
Citizen Alan
@randy khan:
Republicans will never do that. I’m convinced that the only reason we have the Green Party around to siphon off Dem votes is because they’re paid under the table by RWNJ billionaires. They know how the game is played and would never allow the formation of a party to do the same to the GQP.
Barbara
@Citizen Alan: There is great inertia to third parties because a little influence as the outlier rump of an existing party is better than zero influence as a member of a third party that can’t get anyone elected to anything.
Another Scott
?? Fooled around and
fell in lovefound it out …??Cheers,
Scott.
Almost Retired
Ugh, I wish Liz Cheney would just go away. I wish someone credible would run against her. I’d pay the devil to replace her.
Betty Cracker
@lowtechcyclist: Good points. I think you’re right that the 2010 debacle was a combination of lower than usual Dem turnout due to disappointment over the dearth of ponies combined with the persistent gap in the two parties’ off-year election participation, so a double whammy. I live in hope that more Dems finally get the stakes now, but I’m not confident about it.
I also agree that TFG will wring every second of attention out of the upcoming mid-term and general election cycles and then ultimately decline to run, mostly because he’s a lazy turd. Here’s hoping that hobbles the GOP field and that the more they kiss TFG’s disgraced, more-irrelevant-by-the-day ass to hang onto base voters, the more the GOP candidates alienate the saner portion of the independents.
craigie
“Won’t rule out a Presidential run” is a ridiculous phrase. You know who else won’t rule out running? Me.
Doesn’t mean I’m running though (can’t compete with Baud, after all).
Fair Economist
@Citizen Alan:
Don’t be ridiculous. Funding from RWNJ billionaires is hardly the only reason the Green Party exists.
They get money from Russia too.
Geminid
@Barbara: I’ve noticed some of the more traditional Republican politicians in Virginia, like State Senators Jill Vogel and Bill Stanley, standing back from the intraparty fighting that is going on now. Vogel would have been a natural for the 5th District Congressional seat when Tom Garret retired in 2018, but she did not even try to get the nomination. Neither did Stanley. It’s like these traditionals know they can’t stop the radicals from wrecking the train, so they’ll wait and try to salvage the party after the trainwreck.
Baud
OT. News about decent people (via LGM)
piratedan
more than happy to let the “sane” remainders of the GOP gather whatever attention and support that they can surround themselves with. Yes, I hate their politics and policies, but if those folks want to play by the rules and adhere to what are considered to be political standards, then I can support that. Anything that can be done to control the raging xenophobic hysteria that has gripped the remainder of the GQP is a bonus. While most of their folks gathering their face time are charismatically challenged, they are still giving cover to others that are seriously unhinged, driving cars over protestors, mass-murdering people who suffer from a political psychotic break that have tapped into a cruelty-driven id
James E Powell
@piratedan:
The “sane” Republicans don’t want to get rid of the racists & crazies, they just want them to tone it down, go back to speaking code. As was pointed out repeatedly throughout the Trump years, policy wise, he was no different than any Republican since Reagan.
piratedan
@James E Powell: and given that as shitty a bar as it is, it STILL is not as bad as an attempted coup of a freely elected government.
Yes, I know that they are still a bunch of self-serving racists but if you still believe that we need to have a functional two or multi-party system, then you have to at least start with folks who can meet that threshold, true?
trollhattan
Imagine discovering the old, white guy you needed wasn’t Trump after all.
Roger Moore
@randy khan:
It would be great if a shadow money group run by a liberal billionaire could create one.
VOR
Elections involve billions of dollars in ad buying, which is financially lucrative for media organizations. And horse race commentary doesn’t require actually learning anything, unlike policy reporting.
Another Scott
@VOR: +1
I blame Roone Arledge. TV news should never be a profit center, it should be a public service (and a condition of a broadcast license (including using satellite, etc., frequencies used by cable and internet providers)).
Cheers,
Scott.
Roger Moore
@Citizen Alan:
I wouldn’t be so sure. They haven’t managed to do anything about the Libertarian Party, which is pretty much the right wing equivalent of the Greens. You could make at least as good a case for the Libertarians costing Trump the election in 2020 as you can for the Greens costing Clinton in 2016. The only thing that’s kept the Republicans from whining about it is the “Democrats stole the election” narrative dominating instead.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Yes, considering how overstimulated the MAGAs are the Assholes trying to out Asshole each other are going to have to take it to 11 now. Fucker Carlson is on Fox quoting Mien Kampf now and barely getting a rise so the mind boggles what more extreme than Trump means; Detantis shooting Cruz during a debate maybe? Cotton, Cruz and DeSantis attacking Pompeo with their hands and teeth and then three of them eating Pompeo alive on national TV like a scene from a Zombie Flick? What ever it is, 2024 is sure going to be disgusting.
Roger Moore
@James E Powell:
That’s not really true. What I would say was that Trump was indifferent to most policy issues and let the rest of the party make the decisions on everything that wasn’t a personal issue for him. On those issues he cared about, though, he was more than willing to break with party orthodoxy. Foreign policy was the most obvious one- he actually got slapped down by the rest of the party a couple of times over Russia- but his restrictionist policy on immigration was directly counter to Reagan and both Bushes.
Brachiator
@marklar:
(Oh, here she comes)
Watch out boy she’ll chew you up
‘Cause she’s a rich girl, and she’s gone too far…
James E Powell
@Roger Moore:
It’s not merely the presence of a left-alternate Greens or the right-alternate Libertarians, it’s their impact on the campaign narratives.
Libertarians may present a choice for right-wingers who are not religious fanatics or who smoke pot. But the Libertarian candidates do not spend the entire campaign railing against Republicans and the press/media do not promote that angle.
In contrast, Ralph Nader in 2000 and Jill Stein in 2016, spent the entire campaign running against the Democratic candidate. in that effort, they repeated and reinforced Republican propaganda. And the press/media used them both to hammer the Gore & Clinton.
I don’t think anything like that ever happened with Harry Browne or Gary Johnson.
James E Powell
@Roger Moore:
On Russia, I don’t see any evidence that the rest of the party gave a shit about Russia. He didn’t slap anyone down, he shoved them aside and they didn’t complain. On immigration, you are correct that Trump was different from Reagan & the Bushes, but he was the same as the rest of Republican Party.
Trump’s deviations from standard Republican policies were rare and of little significance. To the extent he differed, they almost always abandoned whatever it was the claimed to believe in before and adopted whatever he wanted.
Roger Moore
@VOR:
I would go slightly differently: our media companies are basically in the entertainment business, so they see news as a form of entertainment. With things like crime and weather, they know how to turn it into drama, so that’s what they go with. With politics, they’ve figured out how to treat it like a sporting event, so that’s the lens they see it through. You can see something similar in business coverage, where the media has turned into a cheering section for higher stock prices and low inflation.
Bluegirlfromwyo
@Brachiator: And you know it won’t matter anyway…Liz is 2024’s Jeb Bush.
Roger Moore
@James E Powell:
Sometimes. And sometimes Trump abandoned what he claimed to want and conceded to the rest of the party. The obvious case in point was his claimed desire to do a big infrastructure bill, which so soundly and repeatedly failed in the face Congressional Republican indifference that it became a running gag line. I think he really did want to do a big infrastructure bill- he correctly saw it as playing to his brand and good for his reelection chances- but he just didn’t know how to push it through in the face of intra-party hostility.
Captain C
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
He sounds (and kind of looks) like some dipshit I kind of knew in college who announced that he admired Hitler because of how “moral” he was. I mean, yes, National Socialism is an ethos, but it’s a particularly shitty one.
This is the same idiot who said he wouldn’t lie to protect Jews during the Holocaust because “God says it’s wrong to lie.” Sorry, dude, but I’m pretty sure that if your choices are lying to Nazis or aiding and abetting a genocide, God would prefer you tell a whopper.
(No, I don’t know if he was just trying to get a rise out of his Jewish roommate. Frankly, it doesn’t matter.)
Another Scott
Speaking of redistricting, an interesting comment at Wonkette:
I had no idea that the courts could still do the pre-clearance stuff. Maybe we’re actually not doomed, doomed I tells ya after all.
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@Roger Moore: Moscow Mitch said NO to a big infrastructure bill before TFG was sworn in. TFG doesn’t know how to do actual politics, and had no interest in learning, so he didn’t bother trying to fight him over it. Besides, “you tell them and they believe it, they just do” is good enough for TFG.
Cheers,
Scott.
Roger Moore
@Another Scott:
Yes. IIRC, Shelby only said it was wrong for Congress to automatically put some states on the pre-clearance list*. It is still possible to get on the pre-clearance list by losing under the stricter standards requiring proof of intent to discriminate.
*The decision was obviously nonsense because any jurisdiction could get off the list by keeping its nose clean for 10 years. That there were still states still on the list is evidence they were actively discriminating.
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: job security for me!
Kathleen
@Roger Moore: It’s their Trumpy Dreamy Pining Time.
Geminid
Kathleen
@Betty Cracker: Which Beltway Propatainer will play Olivia John to Desantis’ John Travolta? I can see them fighting over it. Jonathan Martin to Ken Vogel: “But it’s MY turn to sing “Hopelessly Devoted To You”.
X
VOR
@Roger Moore: Yes, politics as sports coverage works for me. Sounds about right.
ThresherK
The movie Americathon, c. 1979, featured John Ritter as the USA’s president who offered one quality: His name, Chet Roosevelt. Oh, and Fred Willard was in it.
Bobby Thomson
Thanks for the reminder of what a POS Sinema is. Back to ratioing her sorry ass.
Roger Moore
@Kathleen:
I don’t know if they’re pining for Trump as a politician- I think a lot of them honestly despise him- but they are definitely pining for the ease of having news regularly dropped in their laps. Again, it’s news as entertainment. They want news to happen on a predictable schedule, or at least often enough that they don’t have to hustle to find it.
@VOR:
And one aspect of the politics as sports coverage is the regularity of sports. There’s no hustling to find the story; major events happens on a schedule that’s published months in advance. I think the political reporters want that same kind of predictability, which is why they love news conferences so much.
Martin
I think this is a bit harsh to Cheney. What choice does she have? She’s been fairly vocal against the current leadership of her party and the fascist direction things are headed in. I don’t think she has any more interest in conceding that fight to them than the Democrats are.
I think she has two choices – run as a GOP and try and beat them, or try to form a 3rd party that can beat the GOP. They are both longshots, but the former at least has a prayer of working.
But Dems need to get on this. I don’t know what Manchin/Sinema need to be offered to get them on board, but it needs to be offered. USSC is looking like they will strike down CAs requirement for donor disclosures, which Scalia defended, in case anyone was wondering just how far off the rails to the right we are right now.
Another Scott
@Martin: I heard part of the oral arguments on that case on C-SPAN Radio yesterday. It was infuriating. The Americans for Prosperity guy came flat out and said that he thinks it’s constitutionally dubious for the IRS to collect Schedule B forms, but he’s “not arguing that here”. They don’t want any disclosure of anything because it might mean that [skip 15 steps] the government will crush free association and everyone will get death threats.
It’s madness.
Grr…
Cheers,
Scott.
Roger Moore
@Another Scott:
The don’t want any disclosure of anything because it might reveal they’re flagrantly breaking the law. That’s not a winning argument, so they go with the free association BS instead.
Rich Gardner
I still think of Cheney as the Gorbachev of the current Republican Party. She’s someone Democrats can do business with. That said, I think the three (relatively) moderate GOP candidates, Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley and Mike Pence MIGHT, all together get 1% of the 2024 Republican primary vote. Haley might do best. Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noemi are probably the best bets for actually getting the nomination provided, of course, that TLG (The Last Guy) doesn’t run.
Boomzilla
Outstanding, Red Team, outstanding! Get you a case of beer for that one. – CBK
Kind of sounds like a serial killer, no? CBK? I guess, rightfully, it should be LBK… Too close to LBJ. Or LCBK. Hey, that’s not bad. It’s not a TLA, though. Adam? How do I do this? How do I abbreviate Bill Kilgore’s designation?
And then the Baby Jesus just didn’t weep, he shat himself. Kilgore? Try harder, Coppola.
To the point, Liz Cheney for what? (Sorry, I distracted myself with Bill Kill.) For 2024? Are we assuming all of the current “Base” goes into therapy and drops Anti-D’s starting, say, 5/1?
Not to say even if they did I’d want her, or she’d make it through the primary. Just think. She’d have Daddy whispering in her ear, all the damn time, just bomb them. We can make up the reason why on the fly. Come on, princess! The folks back home are counting on you.
Hey, let’s run Al Gore again. And what’s that Lieberman fella doing? Hanging out with Joe Manchin? Perfect, let’s get him in the mix too.
I’ll let myself out. Which way to the men’s? I don’t feel so well right now. Just the unimaginable thought of another Cheney as President. Then again, President Trump? That could never, ever happen. Who would be so foolish?
Boomzilla