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You are here: Home / Politics / Biden Administration in Action / Monday Morning Open Thread: Winners

Monday Morning Open Thread: Winners

by Anne Laurie|  June 14, 20217:11 am| 99 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Dog Blogging, Foreign Affairs, Open Threads

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The Pekingese wins #BestInShow! Wow! #Wasabi #WestminsterDogShow2021 #WestminsterDogShow2021 pic.twitter.com/A23nqBW7Ky

— m pappas (@soxfanmap) June 14, 2021

Congratulations to Wasabi, his breeder / handler, and all the other Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show this year.

And for those of you giving conformation dog shows side-eye, try thinking of it this way: For the dogs, it’s like being an Olympic contender (mixed with a beauty-pageant circuit). The competitors don’t necessarily enjoy all the training, dieting, primping, and traveling — but there’s no dog competing at the Westminster level who doesn’t want to be in that ring.

Dogs like having a job to do, and the ‘job’ for these guys is showing off in front of crowds. Probably not the job you or I or our own household companions would choose, but it’s not as though they’d understand our commenting hobby…

Wasabi, a fuzzy Pekingese with a black and brown face and soulful eyes, won Best in Show at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show https://t.co/gQTTItcwtG #WKCDogShow pic.twitter.com/e5V8pL1ZYa

— Reuters (@Reuters) June 14, 2021

Serious, grownup, political news:

“America is back at the table”

US President Joe Biden says “the only way we’re going to meet the global threats, is by working together,” adding that “the United States is going to do our part”

Latest: https://t.co/TkCaTpDd4s pic.twitter.com/AZQG2DDzdJ

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) June 13, 2021

G7 summit: Has this been a meeting that mattered? https://t.co/uIUJOHDRKw

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) June 14, 2021

President Biden arrived in Brussels for two days of summits with NATO and the European Union aimed at reinvigorating transatlantic ties https://t.co/NhR60M0VOC pic.twitter.com/ZvOKBcMhDV

— Reuters (@Reuters) June 14, 2021

Jen Rubin:

Opinion: America is back. And it’s popular. https://t.co/T5lGhgeDHl

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 13, 2021

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  1. 1.

    debbie

    June 14, 2021 at 7:14 am

    Sigh. Love dogs, but they need to be allowed to act like dogs.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:16 am

    Probably not the job you or I or our own household companions would choose, but it’s not as though they’d understand our commenting hobby…

    Some days, it does feel like work.

  3. 3.

    JR

    June 14, 2021 at 7:20 am

    Maybe more like East German Olympic contenders, since the dogs don’t voluntarily compete.

  4. 4.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 7:21 am

    How enigmatic.

    US Pacific Air Forces responded with three F-22s to an incident reported off Hawaii on Sunday afternoon.

    The military said it could not provide details on the incident, but did confirm it was not a training exercise and was done in response to an FAA request.
    [snip]
    A Stratotanker also assisted. Source

  5. 5.

    raven

    June 14, 2021 at 7:24 am

    I’m sure I’ll miss the Pentagon Papers thread.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 14, 2021 at 7:24 am

    @debbie: Yesterday, Billie and Percy went for a morning walkabout. Billie came back covered in mud, Percy just had muddy paws. He is so much more dignified than that overly exuberant water dog.

  7. 7.

    MJS

    June 14, 2021 at 7:25 am

    It’s my understanding that dogs used to like having a job to do, until socialist Joe got in office and expanded UI benefits. Now they have zero incentive to work.

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 7:27 am

    Here we are, smack in the middle of the holiday and once again (as is traditional) no parade.

    :)

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2021 at 7:27 am

    As I said last night, that Pekingese looks like a decorative, ambulatory facial tissue box holder with eyes. But it’s a cute little tissue box holder with eyes! My Great-Aunt Marylee had a series of Pekingese, so I got to know the breed a little through her. She spoiled them something awful! I haven’t seen one in the wild in ages.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:28 am

    @MJS:

    In the Baud! 20XX! American Dogs Plan, dogs get universal basic income.

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    June 14, 2021 at 7:28 am

    Good Morning Everyone ???

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 14, 2021 at 7:28 am

    Grace Lidia Suárez@gracels
    The dumbest people in the world.

    CanadianPam
    @PamelaApostolo1
    · 11h
    OMG-just saw this on FB!!!
    “This is just INSANE on a whole other level! These “tickets” are being sold for as high as $1,200 each on Q sites all over the internet, the crazy part is that people are talking about how excited they are because they’ve already purchased them.”

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 14, 2021 at 7:30 am

    @Baud: dogs get universal basic income.

    WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!!! Hooray for me!!!

    eta: how many Baud bucks am I gonna get?

  14. 14.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:30 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 7:32 am

    @Baud

    A chicken bone in every pot dish!

  16. 16.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 7:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I see things like that and think “how can I get a cut of that?”

    Used to be I’d have scruples about it, but having now seen who these people really are, I feel much freer. Only worry now is I’d probably overthink things, when these people are at lizard-brain levels of function.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:35 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Too soon to tell.  Have to get the bill past Manchin.

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 14, 2021 at 7:36 am

    @Baud: Damn. I’m gonna die long before that happens.

  19. 19.

    indycat32

    June 14, 2021 at 7:36 am

    Louis DeJoy strikes again. Yesterday my package was here in Indy, today it’s in Columbia City. Fortunately, it’s nothing I urgently need.

    Doesn’t that pup get awfully hot?

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 7:36 am

    @OzarkHilbilly

    Payment forthcoming in Bitbauds?

  21. 21.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 7:36 am

    Sure, sex is great. But have you ever had a Sunday where Bibi was ousted and Cenk Uygur and Glenn Greenwald went at each other's throats on social media? pic.twitter.com/n1PdA9ymvj— Trevor's Still Hopeful For His Personal Flyover (@ObamaClintonDem) June 14, 2021

  22. 22.

    MagdaInBlack

    June 14, 2021 at 7:38 am

    @Betty Cracker:  My mother had a Pekingese, but she kept her fur trimmed up pretty short. That dog (Tinka) looked like a puppy rather than a dust mop.

  23. 23.

    Soprano2

    June 14, 2021 at 7:38 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  One of the hallmarks of a cult is unquestioning belief in dates for events like this, and renewed faith when the event doesn’t happen. No, that is not logical.

  24. 24.

    debbie

    June 14, 2021 at 7:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    So, apparently they’ll be rioting either way that day. //

  25. 25.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 14, 2021 at 7:42 am

    As soon as I finish my sad half-caff coffee, I’m going out for a walk. In the meantime, I’m reading Jean Korelitz’s THE PLOT. The central character is a writer whose first book was a big deal. Since then, it’s been downhill. The person who recommended the book to me says he eventually steals a dynamite plot from someone who dies. That should be fun. At the moment, he’s hanging out at the places writers go. Boy howdy, do I recognize these people. Also, I feel seen

  26. 26.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:42 am

    Jackal Clickbait. Coming soon to a Twitter near you.

    Sarah Rumpf / Mediaite:

    Bernie Sanders: Biden Campaign Made Me Feel ‘Very Welcome,’ In Contrast to Clinton, Who ‘Wanted My Support,’ And ‘Tolerated’ Me

  27. 27.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:47 am

    Today show: 2100 of 3000 belligerent airline passengers this year were because of airline mask mandate.

  28. 28.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 7:47 am

    @Soprano2

    Well, according to Pillow Cretin, SCOTUS will rule to overturn the election in August – when they’re not in session.

  29. 29.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 7:49 am

    Ninja SCOTUS!

    (Damn editor)

  30. 30.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 7:49 am

    How long will it take Mike Lindell to host a pro-Bibi rally in Jerusalem?

    — Trevor’s Still Hopeful For His Personal Flyover (@ObamaClintonDem) June 13, 2021

    I liked Bibi’s last speech: “Who else will stand up to Biden?!!” he demanded. Reminded me of all the money we’ve sent his way.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 7:51 am

    @germy:

    I didn’t hear about that.  I’m happy he’s unhappy.

  32. 32.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 7:52 am

    @germy: “Who else will stand up to Santa Claus?”

  33. 33.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 7:53 am

    @Spanky:

    “Just leave the presents and get out!”

  34. 34.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 7:53 am

    @Baud: I’ll be happier when I see how unhappy he looks in his mugshot.

  35. 35.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 7:54 am

    Duplicate comment deleted. My Andoid is jumping the edit window around on me. Anyone else with Android notice anything wonky?

  36. 36.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 14, 2021 at 7:58 am

    @germy: I’m trying (and failing) to think of two people I care less about than Greenwald and Uygur.

  37. 37.

    narya

    June 14, 2021 at 8:01 am

    First running event of the season yesterday (at Revolution brewing, for those of you in the vicinity), and it was . . . weird to be inside with so! many! people! I stayed to the edge of the room, and it has REALLY high ceilings, but it was still weird. Beautiful here this morning–cool breeze, nice sun; I’d take off of work if I didn’t have a zillion things due before I take off at the end of the week.

  38. 38.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 8:04 am

    @Spanky

    Site has been flaunting a multiplicity of wonkiness for quite a few days now.

  39. 39.

    Mathguy

    June 14, 2021 at 8:06 am

    The whippet should have won, since it’s a real dog and not a tribble.*

     

    *-Of course, having a whippet at home that we love has nothing to do with it.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2021 at 8:08 am

    @Mathguy

    Whippet good?

    ;)

  41. 41.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 8:12 am

    They should add “Eating cat poop from a litter box” to the competition.

     

    I’m talking about Cenk and Greenwald.

  42. 42.

    Starfish

    June 14, 2021 at 8:13 am

    @germy:

    Area Substacker who routinely normalizes leading white supremacist propagandist and has repeatedly excused an attempted coup thinks he embodies Noam Chomsky’s call to oppose America’s violence. pic.twitter.com/Z2gC4f96mE
    — emptywheel (@emptywheel) June 14, 2021

  43. 43.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Some good news: the Kuala Lumpur has refused to stay a summary judgement that disgraced former PM Najib Abdul Razak must pay the Inland Revenue Board (LHDN) RM1.69 billion (roughly US$400 million) in tax arrears. Najib had sought a stay pending his appeal of the judgment in LHDN’s lawsuit against him.

  44. 44.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2021 at 8:18 am

    @MagdaInBlack: Same with Aunt Marylee’s Pekes, which were trimmed suitably for South Carolina weather.

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    June 14, 2021 at 8:20 am

     

    Adam Schiff (@AdamSchiff) tweeted at 4:48 PM on Sun, Jun 13, 2021:
    Time and time again Trump called for investigations into those he feared or who stood in his way, including journalists and members of Congress.

    And his calls may have been answered. That’s unacceptable and wrong.

    Don’t just take it from me, here are the facts from @JoyAnnReid: t.co/0r4qoEMo0W
    (twitter.com/AdamSchiff/status/1404193989784387618?s=03)

  46. 46.

    Starfish

    June 14, 2021 at 8:20 am

    @Amir Khalid: If only we had a government so competent in the US to go after some former President’s tax evasion…

  47. 47.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @Starfish:

    You have to excuse Glenn on this. He must be fuming that the Trump administration was recently exposed for spying on Democrats in Congress, members of the press and His own WH counsel.?

    — sidney hunsecker (@SidneyHunsecker) June 14, 2021

  48. 48.

    Amir Khalid

    June 14, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @germy:
    I’d rather not see for myself, but what are Cenk and Glenn squabbling about?

  49. 49.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 8:22 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Probably who hates Democrats more.

  50. 50.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2021 at 8:22 am

    @rikyrah: I think today is the day when AG Garland meets with CNN, WaPo and NYT reps to answer questions about this issue.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 8:23 am

    @germy:

    FWIW, I will condemn things on demand.  For a nominal fee, of course, to cover the expenses.

  52. 52.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2021 at 8:24 am

    @Amir Khalid: This kicked off the squabble:

    Monday Morning Open Thread: Winners

  53. 53.

    germy

    June 14, 2021 at 8:25 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Cenk:  “USA bad!  But Putin bad, too!  Why you not criticize Putin?”

    GG:  “Aaaaaiiiiiieeeeee!!”

  54. 54.

    rikyrah

    June 14, 2021 at 8:46 am

     

    David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) tweeted at 7:15 AM on Mon, Jun 14, 2021:
    Biden and his team have delivered the critical message to Putin even before that meeting begins–through meetings with the G7, NATO and the EU showing our alliances working together effectively.  My latest for @TheDailyBeast.  t.co/0QyZI3j9il
    (twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1404412207715086338?s=03)

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    June 14, 2021 at 8:49 am

    @germy: I liked Foreign Minister Yair Lapid’s speech at yesterday’s Knesset meeting. After seeing the raucous jeering and heckling of new Prime Minister Naftali Bennet, Lapid discarded his prepared remarks and reprimanded the opposition-to-be for their discreditable display, by way of an apology to his mother:

       “My mother is 86 years old and we don’t ask her to come to Jerusalem lightly, but we did so because I assumed you would be able to get over yourselves and behave with statesmanship at this moment, and she would see a smooth transition of government.

    When she was born, there was no State of Israel, Tel Aviv was a small town of 30,000, and we didn’t have a parliament. I wanted her to be proud of the democratic process. Instead she, and every citizen of Israel, is ashamed of you and remembers clearly why it is time to replace you.”

  56. 56.

    Ken

    June 14, 2021 at 8:51 am

    I half-suspect the reason the Pekingese won is that the judges can’t see the dog’s body under all that fur, so can’t knock off tenths of a point for slight deviations from the AKC standards. But that’s the part of me talking that despises the AKC for the damage their standards have done to so many breeds.

  57. 57.

    TomatoQueen

    June 14, 2021 at 8:51 am

    The samoyed was robbed.

  58. 58.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 14, 2021 at 8:57 am

    @TomatoQueen: Probably anti-Russian bias on the part of the judges. Get Greenwald on it.

  59. 59.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 14, 2021 at 8:58 am

    @Starfish:

    Damn, Greenwald is an arrogant, rage addicted asshole.  Cenk threw him the biggest, slowest softball in the world.  He straight up said this was Greenwald’s chance to flaunt how his detractors were wrong.  Instead Greenwald throws a screaming, profanity filled hissy fit.  What a prima donna.

  60. 60.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 14, 2021 at 9:00 am

    @Geminid: Wow. Good for the Foreign Minister

  61. 61.

    Baud

    June 14, 2021 at 9:03 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    To be fair, Greenwald’s detractors aren’t wrong.

  62. 62.

    Another Scott

    June 14, 2021 at 9:04 am

    @Ken: They’ve ruined the GSD.

    :-(

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  63. 63.

    Starfish

    June 14, 2021 at 9:04 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: All the people who ever managed to work with him deserve a trophy for being the most patient and laid back people in the world.

  64. 64.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 14, 2021 at 9:06 am

    @NotMax: And the parties are always sorely lacking.

  65. 65.

    sab

    June 14, 2021 at 9:09 am

    @Another Scott: You’re not kidding. None of them even meet the original breed standard because their back legs are so screwed up they can’t do the flying trot any more.

  66. 66.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 14, 2021 at 9:15 am

    @Baud:

    Yeah, but all Greenwald would have needed was to reply with one example of some time he has criticized Putin, and Cenk has helped him pretend the whole ‘why don’t you criticize Putin?’ attack line is bullshit.  There has to be one example.  This is pathological levels of “How dare you question me?” ego.  Unless it’s pathological levels of “How dare you question Putin?” but I doubt that.

  67. 67.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 14, 2021 at 9:15 am

    @Spanky:

    I see things like that and think “how can I get a cut of that?” 

    You ain’t kiddin’!  At some point, you just can’t help it with people this willingly stupid.

    And even if the person photoshopped that and is making a point, there still are people who truly believe this “reinstatement” bullshit.

  68. 68.

    sab

    June 14, 2021 at 9:16 am

    @Ken: I inherited my uncle’s cocker. He had had a cocker as a child in the 1930s. I wish I had asked him about grooming Topsy back in the day, because there is no way they were hauling a dog in for professional grooming every two months during the Depression. There is no way you could take a dog with the silky fluffy fur of the modern American cocker out in the field for hunting. Our English cocker who died 35 years ago didn’t have the modern imstantly matting fur either.

  69. 69.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 14, 2021 at 9:18 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    all Greenwald would have needed was to reply with one example

    There isn’t one, that’s the problem.

  70. 70.

    Bunter

    June 14, 2021 at 9:21 am

    @Ken: The AKC doesn’t write the breed standards though. Breed clubs write them and then either the club members or board votes on them. And while I’ll disparage hair dogs winning anytime, the judges do put hands on them and through their fur. I’ve had a show dog and I belong to a breed club. And I stopped showing him when he stopped enjoying the outing.

  71. 71.

    Spanky

    June 14, 2021 at 9:22 am

    Don’t know how a post titled “Winners” devolved into a discussion about Cenk and Glem.

  72. 72.

    WereBear

    June 14, 2021 at 9:23 am

    @rikyrah: Shared on my political channel :)

  73. 73.

    WereBear

    June 14, 2021 at 9:26 am

    @Ken:

    But that’s the part of me talking that despises the AKC for the damage their standards have done to so many breeds.

     
    Agreed. They also don’t police the scam breeders, which COULD be done. And rescue organizations, who pick up the pieces, have been asking them to do something for DECADES.

  74. 74.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 14, 2021 at 9:29 am

    @Spanky:

    Because we’re the winners.

  75. 75.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 14, 2021 at 9:34 am

    I blogged about what YA is and what it isn’t. It’s possible I sound a little irritable about the topic.

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    June 14, 2021 at 9:36 am

    @NotMax:

    Whippet good?

    Are we Not Men Max?

  77. 77.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2021 at 9:38 am

    @Bunter: The lady who was the Best in Show judge last night seemed pretty solid.

  78. 78.

    laura

    June 14, 2021 at 9:40 am

    @Amir Khalid: Imagine a slap fight in a bus station bathroom.

  79. 79.

    sab

    June 14, 2021 at 9:42 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: My college roommate worked for years in bookstores in Ohio. She said one of the biggest customer groups for YA was Mennonite and Amish women. They liked the coming of age (growth into moral adulthood) and toned-down sex aspect of these books.

  80. 80.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 14, 2021 at 9:43 am

    @laura:

    Imagine a slap fight in a bus station bathroom. 

    Very generous.  I’d go with uncleaned port-a-potty.

  81. 81.

    Kristine

    June 14, 2021 at 9:43 am

    @Another Scott: According to friends, you need to get a dog from one of the working lines. Their backs don’t slope. But even so, from all I’ve read, you need to be careful. I’m always glad to see a GSD with a straight back.

    The first dog I remembered seeing was Prince, the GSD my folks had when I was 3, 4. He was a great dog. Yes, I hate what’s been done to the breed, too.

  82. 82.

    debbie

    June 14, 2021 at 9:45 am

    @Geminid:

    Such an Israeli reaction! Good to see!

  83. 83.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 14, 2021 at 9:50 am

    @sab: Also the pacing tends to be quick. No dawdling around.

  84. 84.

    Another Scott

    June 14, 2021 at 9:59 am

    In other news, Priming doesn’t work well, but boosting and other techniques might in the fight against fake news:

    […]

    We also found some indication that the prime may work better for US Democrats than for Republicans, with the latter appearing to barely benefit from the intervention. There could be a variety of reasons for this. Given the highly politicized nature of COVID-19, political motivations may have a large effect. Conservatism is associated with lower trust in mainstream media, which may lead some Republicans to evaluate credible news outlets as “biased.”

    Priming effects are also known to disappear rapidly, usually after a few seconds. We explored whether this is also the case for accuracy primes by looking at whether the treatment effect occurs disproportionately in the first few headlines that study participants were shown. It appears that the treatment effect was no longer present after participants rated a handful of headlines, which would take most people no more than a few seconds.

    Ways forward

    So what’s the best way forward? Our own work has focused on leveraging a different branch of psychology, known as “inoculation theory”. This involves pre-emptively warning people of an impending attack on their beliefs and refuting the persuasive argument (or exposing the manipulation techniques) before they encounter the misinformation. This process specifically helps confer psychological resistance against future attempts to mislead people with fake news, an approach also known as “prebunking.”

    In our research, we show that inoculating people against the manipulation techniques commonly used by fake news producers indeed makes people less susceptible to misinformation on social media, and less likely to report to share it. These inoculations can come in the form of free online games, of which we’ve so far designed three: Bad News, Harmony Square and Go Viral!. In collaboration with Google Jigsaw, we also designed a series of short videos about common manipulation techniques, which can be run as ads on social media platforms.

    Other researchers have replicated these ideas with a related approach known as “boosting”. This involves strengthening people’s resilience to micro-targeting—ads that target people based on aspects of their personality—by getting them to reflect on their own personality first.

    Additional tools include fact-checking and debunking, algorithmic solutions that downrank unreliable content and more political measures such as efforts to reduce polarization in society. Ultimately, these tools and interventions can create a multi-layered defense system against misinformation. In short: the fight against misinformation is going to need more than a nudge.

    The original article is here – journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/09567976211024535

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  85. 85.

    Alejandra Gonzalez

    June 14, 2021 at 10:01 am

    the rescue dog shows are my favorite!

  86. 86.

    Another Scott

    June 14, 2021 at 10:01 am

    @Kristine: There’s a young black GSD in our neighborhood that we’ve watched grow up.  Straight back, natural gait, just a beautiful well behaved dog.

    Our first dog was a GSD/border collie-ish mix.  Incredibly smart and empathetic.  We miss her every day.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Miss Bianca

    June 14, 2021 at 10:05 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I haven’t seen one in the wild in ages.

    I’m not sure that Pekingese exist in the wild.

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    zhena gogolia

    June 14, 2021 at 10:07 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: That’s what I love about The Witch of Blackbird Pond.

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    Alejandra Gonzalez

    June 14, 2021 at 10:28 am

    test

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    Bunter

    June 14, 2021 at 10:40 am

    @Betty Cracker: She’s been around forever! I had to check because I didn’t remember but, yeah, this was her fifth Westminster as a judge in some capacity.

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    EthylEster

    June 14, 2021 at 11:19 am

    I will never understand how people who say they love dogs can tolerate/support dog-breeding, which is done only to please humans and produces disease and suffering in the dogs.

    Dog shows like this manifest the cognitive dissonance of these “dog lovers”.

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    Nutmeg again

    June 14, 2021 at 11:24 am

    @TomatoQueen: I have to agree. Just on personality, That dog was a winner!

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    Miss Bianca

    June 14, 2021 at 11:47 am

    @EthylEster: So, you think that all dogs should be the result of accidental or non-purposeful breeding, then? Or should there just not be dogs at all?

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    stinger

    June 14, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @EthylEster: Oh please. I currently have three rescues from different rescue orgs, two of them very mixed breed. Love them dearly. But some day I will have a purebred again.

    Different breeds have different characteristics, so you know in advance what the dog’s appearance, personality, and energy levels will be like. Avoid backyard breeders and puppy mills; reputable breeders work hard and go to considerable expense to produce healthy, happy dogs. Dog shows are great places to learn about the various breeds and find out what kinds would thrive in the environment you can provide them and which wouldn’t work out.

    Also I eat meat.

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    Michael Cain

    June 14, 2021 at 1:35 pm

    @Another Scott: We had a border collie when I was a kid (it adopted us, a story for another time).  My sister was one of several three-year olds in the group of houses that shared a back yard.  The collie herded the little kids around.  20 minutes in the sandbox, then gather them up and move them over to the swing set for 20 minutes, then some time crawling around in the bushes…

  96. 96.

    prostratedragon

    June 14, 2021 at 2:52 pm

    @Michael Cain: That’s hilarious!
    Dead thread I know, but where better to recall the early days after 9/11 when security and bomb-sniffing dogs were in suddenly much greater demand, so that unconventional breeds for that kind of work were tried. Including border collies. They do indeed really want to herd …

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    J R in WV

    June 14, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    All of our dogs have been mixes, some of them look a little like recognized “breeds” but in reality probably only have a tiny proportion of genes in common with actual recognized dogs with “papers”.

    One had at least some Airedale, the curly close coat and head shape, so maybe 25%-50% Airedale.

    Was a cute, smart, affectionate dog, smart and affectionate is all we ask for. Cute helps too.

    Smartest dog we ever had was a long haired black dog, also affectionate, very smart, in control of all the other critters from squirrels to the dogs and cats. And deer, and, and… Some border collie?

    Right now we have 3 dogs, one is middle aged, white lab mix, 84 pounds of sweetness. The other two are litter-mates, mostly black, a boy 67 pounds and a girl 63 pounds. They are really affectionate, smart. Part Great Pyrenees, part lab, they were born and grew up at a goat dairy, were never inside until they came to us.

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    Just Chuck

    June 14, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    I love dogs so much that I measure the length and angles of their limbs… oh wait. Beauty pageants for different species are just a different kind of creepy.

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    sab

    June 14, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    @Another Scott: The dog love of my life (13 years gone) was a backyard bred beast with a lovely personality. She had a straight back, normal slightly longish back legs. She was huge. She was sable ( greyish all over with no saddle.)  Cheerful friendly personality. People used to stop me on the street and say “She looks like RinTinTin. This is what a GSD should look like.”

    When I lived in Las Vegas NV when she was a puppy, police units in the next field were always trying to buy her. She was obsessed with bite work. I wouldn’t let her do it until her obedience got perfect (which I knew would never happen.)  She maxed out at 135 pounds and was never fat. Just a big beast of a girl. She loved guinea pigs. Let them run up and down her back and even let them pee on her. Scary as hell to strange men approaching me in the park.

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