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You are here: Home / Economics / Grifters Gonna Grift / Thursday Evening Schadenfreude Open Thread: Scrabbling Frantically At the Gates of Respectability

Thursday Evening Schadenfreude Open Thread: Scrabbling Frantically At the Gates of Respectability

by Anne Laurie|  June 24, 20218:09 pm| 115 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, Media Mudlarks, Schadenfreude

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Their reputations, like them, are garbage. No rehabbing who they are. Former White House “advisors” who had a hand in the attempted destruction of everything Donald touched. https://t.co/sPwV96dBzJ via @VanityFair

— Barbara Malmet (@B52Malmet) June 24, 2021

I admire Bess Levin’s way with snark:

… [T]hanks to attaching themselves to an unhinged bigot for four years, a global pandemic that Jared personally made worse, and a failed attempt to overthrow the U.S. government led by a fascist mob that Ivanka publicly praised before realizing how it looked, the duo’s reputations—never stellar to begin with—have been in the toilet since January. The situation is so bad that the couple—never ones for self-awareness—seem to understand how deeply loathed they are, hence their desperate attempts to improve their standing in society by pretending they want nothing to do with Donald Trump.

In a move right out of the same playbook they used during their time at the White House—wherein they would literally flee the scene any time Trump did something extra bad, and hope people would think they had nothing to do with it despite being senior advisers to the president, Jared and Ivanka are now reportedly trying to convince people who don’t know any better that they’ve all but cut ties with the 45th president over his erratic behavior and insistence that he won the 2020 election…

Of course, despite allegedly wanting less to do with the ex-president, the two followed him down to Florida after leaving D.C., reportedly having purchased a $30 million property close enough to Mar-a-Lago that they could drop by for dinner with dad. And they’ll be spending the summer at the same Bedminster, New Jersey, club as Trump, where their accommodations are literally steps from his…

Nothing says, “I’m finished with this guy!” like moving into the house next door!


(More Trump Crime Family snark tidbits at the link.)

TFW you think your publicist has put out exculpatory evidence against sedition charges, but has instead has implicated you in elder abuse. https://t.co/YeFOixitWg

— David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™ (@KagroX) June 23, 2021

Journalism fail: https://t.co/6I390MDF3i

— Soledad O'Brien (@soledadobrien) June 23, 2021

Instead, they have a dozen anonymous "associates" tell CNN they are vaguely "creating distance" between themselves and Trump

Meanwhile, they are on a road trip and the destination is their "cottage" in NJ that is literally 10 feet from Trump

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) June 23, 2021

Ivanka and Jared making a principled decision to distance themselves from Donald based on their deeply held personal ethics: pic.twitter.com/Yz7VbU30A9

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) June 23, 2021

But seriously…

Sorry, Jared and Ivanka. Nobody is buying your leaks to the press and we will never let you distance yourself from the destruction you caused. pic.twitter.com/tkm7yB5c2K

— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) June 23, 2021

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    June 24, 2021 at 8:33 pm

    Happy to hear that they are floundering.  Wake me when they get their orange jumpsuits!

  2. 2.

    Ken

    June 24, 2021 at 8:34 pm

    [T]hanks to attaching themselves to an unhinged bigot for four years,

    I have to disagree with the framing, because they’ve been “attached” and he’s been an unhinged bigot for far longer than four years.

  3. 3.

    James E Powell

    June 24, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    @Ken:

    I’d go further and point out that the only reasonable inference is that they, too, are unhinged bigots.

  4. 4.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    Unless they are going to jail I don’t want to read about these nepotism beneficiaries.

  5. 5.

    debbie

    June 24, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    I still get a bit of a giggle whenever I remember the clip of Ivanka weeping as her pops made his farewell remarks.

  6. 6.

    debbie

    June 24, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    O/T: I scored two pints of black raspberries this afternoon. Can they be frozen and then thawed and eaten as is? How?

  7. 7.

    Wilson Heath

    June 24, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Garbage fail kids.

  8. 8.

    laura

    June 24, 2021 at 8:42 pm

    Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers. I wish dollar store Diana and Oswald Mosely all the misery and ignominy that they richly deserve. I’d be happy to throw garbage at their faces if given half a chance. In a just world there’s a prison cell for each or both.

  9. 9.

    Danielx

    June 24, 2021 at 8:43 pm

    If they get around to publicly admitting daddy is a raving unhinged loon, as are most/all of his devotees, they might have a chance at rehabilitation.

    A very small chance, but a chance.

    But how do they monetize mea culpas?

  10. 10.

    laura

    June 24, 2021 at 8:43 pm

    @debbie: pour the berries out onto a cookie sheet and freeze. Bag em up and eat as needed.

  11. 11.

    Yutsano

    June 24, 2021 at 8:47 pm

    I really don’t care do u?

  12. 12.

    James E Powell

    June 24, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    Rudy’s Rant about his suspension. The whole thing is classic asshole rant, but this part

    Well, the — the appellate whatever division of the court, in a state that is a one party state, New York is a one-party Democrat state, which is always very, very dangerous. That’s what — that’s what you have in places like, you know, China, Venezuela. You have one-party states.

    Does Rudy know how many one-party Republican states there are? Are only Democratic one party states very, very dangerous

    One of the reasons the court gave for the extraordinary remedy of a pre-hearing suspension is that Rudy was likely to continue making the false claims.

    In his rant, Rudy continues to make the false claims.

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    @laura: I hate to say this, but you are defaming the Mosley’s with the comparison.  They had talents, and Mosley served in the First World War.

  14. 14.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2021 at 8:50 pm

    @debbie: Just eat them. You know you want to.

  15. 15.

    Nicole

    June 24, 2021 at 8:52 pm

    @laura:

    pour the berries out onto a cookie sheet and freeze. Bag em up and eat as needed.

    I confess, as I was reading all the comments very quickly, I initially thought you were talking about what to do with Jarvanka.  And I thought, “Wow, harsh, but you know what, I’m okay with it.”

  16. 16.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2021 at 8:52 pm

    This makes me appreciate that we see next to nothing of either the Biden or Harris kids.

    Which is refreshingly professional of them. They are doing their jobs, working for us, and their families aren’t part of that.

    I know we’ll never be done with the Trump kids, they’ll always be grubbing for attention. I’m surprised they aren’t on tne covers of supermarket tabloids — today on the checkout line, I saw a lot of British royalty — but I think it’s only a matter of time.

  17. 17.

    Ken

    June 24, 2021 at 8:52 pm

    @James E Powell: That should demonstrate to the review board the depth and sincerity of his contrition.

  18. 18.

    JoyceH

    June 24, 2021 at 8:54 pm

    Not Javanka related, but the participants in the ‘Trump train’ that tried to run the Biden-Harris bus off the road in Texas are being sued under the Ku Klux Klan Act:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/trump-train-lawsuit-biden-campaign-workers/index.html

    “The complaint alleges that the defendants — named as Eliazar Cisneros, Hannah Ceh, Joeylynn Mesaros, Robert Mesaros, Dolores Park, and a Jane and John Doe — conspired beforehand to surround and block the bus in violation of the Ku Klux Klan Act, passed by Congress in 1871 to prohibit the obstruction of free and fair elections via the coordinated intimidation of voters. ”

    Gee, maybe you shouldn’t have live-streamed your bad selves, jackasses.

  19. 19.

    Benw

    June 24, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    Hey everyone, if you’re interested in the Balloon Juice action program, jump down one thread and let us know if you want to help out!

    Oh, and fuck Jared and Ivanka

  20. 20.

    JaneE

    June 24, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    If they really cared about their reputations or Donald Trump, they should have been trying to get him help a long, long time ago.

    They can’t even convincingly pretend to be sincere about anything that isn’t putting money in their pockets.

    There were any number of times they really should have distanced themselves from Trump, if only by a mildly critical tweet.  Like Melania’s anti-bullying crusade, what looked like a good idea on paper never went beyond looking like a good idea on paper.  Actually doing anything to implement it was outside their wheelhouse.  Or maybe they were just so out-of-touch that what they thought they were doing looked more like the opposite to anyone outside their circle.

    At this point, anything they can do won’t look good.  You can support the Big Lie, or throw daddy under the bus.  Their reputations take a hit either way.

  21. 21.

    debbie

    June 24, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I do, no lie.

  22. 22.

    debbie

    June 24, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    @laura:

    Wash or not?

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    Alexandra Petri: Ivanka and Jared working to distance themselves from consequences of their own actions

    Jared and Ivanka are new people now. New people who are very distant from former president Donald Trump and all things former-president-Donald-Trump-related, and who cannot possibly be held accountable for anything he does or says — or, indeed, anything they themselves did or said in the before-times.

    Let them explain this a little more. It would be completely unreasonable — nay, unjust! — to hold the Jared of June 2021 and the Ivanka of June 2021 accountable for the actions of their so-called past selves. What is the self? Remember, we are all ships of Theseus, whose cells, day after day, are destroyed and replaced with new ones, until the Self that stands there is wrought from entirely new materials from the Self of the past. And yet we seek to hold this brand-new self accountable for the actions of the old? Lunacy!

    Their point is, there is no permanence in one’s being! The you of yesterday is killed to make room for the you of today who drives its cart over the old self’s bones! Each time you go to sleep, who is to say that there is any continuity between the you who shuts their eyes and the you who reawakens?

  24. 24.

    Another Scott

    June 24, 2021 at 8:57 pm

    JustSecurity:

    When the Kushner Companies purchased 666 Fifth Avenue in midtown Manhattan in early 2007 for a record-breaking price of $1.8 billion, it was supposed to be a center of their real estate portfolio. Instead, the Kushners have struggled to cover their debt on the troubled building since shortly after its purchase on the eve of the financial crisis. As Jared Kushner’s father-in-law, Donald J. Trump, was running for President, the Kushners were pitching Qatari investors to help bail out the building. And just weeks after his father Charles reportedly failed to reach a deal with Qatar’s minister of finance, Jared Kushner, in his capacity as a senior adviser to President Trump, reportedly played a central role in supporting a blockade of Qatar by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Kushner never disclosed his meeting with Saudi Arabia and the UAE on the blockade to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson at the time. Later, a financial company tied to Qatar brokered an especially valuable deal to rescue the Kushner Companies’ property at 666 Fifth Avenue.

    Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    June 24, 2021 at 8:57 pm

    The only thing I ever want to hear about these two ever again is that they are in jail and have had all their assets seized.

  26. 26.

    James E Powell

    June 24, 2021 at 8:58 pm

    @Ken:

    Rudy says “I defended my client, and I defended my client in a way in which the Bar Association should give me an award.”

    So, no contrition, no promise to avoid the near occasion of sin.

  27. 27.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 8:59 pm

    Mike Sington @MikeSington

    According to 12 former Trump White House officials and family friends, Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are now estranged from the disgraced ex-President, and want nothing to do with him. They can’t stand his constant harping on the past and inability to move on. Same.

    I want to believe. But I don’t. Not that I think Vanky gives a damn about The Beast. I always said she married Jared because she had seen his daddy’s balance sheet, and hers. The Kushners really are billionaires, especially now that, as I recall, a sovereign wealth bailed Trust Fund Gilligan out of 666 Fifth. Was it the Kuwaitis or the Bahrain crown?

    @laura:

    @debbie: pour the berries out onto a cookie sheet and freeze. Bag em up and eat as needed.

    will that work with strawberries?

     

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    The LA Times had a quintessentially-California take on QAnon today: California’s yoga, wellness and spirituality community has a QAnon problem

    Kathleen Abraham, 61, saw that the Facebook photo of the group had been taken in the Orange County home of one of her dearest friends, a woman she had known for 15 years who had helped her recover from breast cancer and introduced her to the world of New Age spiritualism.

    Weeks later came another jolt. Her friend announced on Instagram that she had been red-pilled, a term used by QAnon adherents to describe their conversion to belief in the conspiracy. Another old friend, Abraham’s first reiki master, was also growing more extreme, writing that the COVID-19 pandemic was a conspiracy and face masks were toxic.

    Many examples follow. The whole story is worth it just for this:

    Over the next year, as she watched more New Age clients, peers and acquaintances venture down the rabbit hole, Schwartz coined her own term for the phenomenon: “Woo-Anon.”

  29. 29.

    Ohio Mom

    June 24, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    Joyce H:

    Good! A quick google shows me they are also sueing law enforcement for not responding to calls for help.

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2021 at 9:00 pm

    Vaguely related.

    Obama, Elvis and 5 other famous ‘Shabbos goys’

    ;)

  31. 31.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    @Another Scott: the Qataris! thanks

  32. 32.

    jl

    June 24, 2021 at 9:02 pm

    I need to keep my spirits up, so thanks for info, but I’ll pass on a detailed review of these two right now.

    Glad that it looks like Handsome Old Joe and the Dems may be coming together on a good plan. Glad that Sinema and Manchin are throwing off some signs of common sense, but I’ll need to see more to have any confidence that they’ll go big enough to save their political skins.

    Edit: Should explain that, IMH not expert at all O, I think Sinema and Manchin were on a very risky path for winning their next elections, assuming they want to stay in the Senate. And I don’t think they can be players on the other side at all, or even in lobbying. Corporations and the big mega-funders are like the mafia, or Stalinists, any history of deviationism is a black mark that brands you forever, and bans you from the innermost back quiet rooms.

    We also have to worry about other corporate Democrats who may not have public welfare among their top priorities (Coons for example).

    But, some good signs and I am glad for those.

  33. 33.

    Keith P.

    June 24, 2021 at 9:03 pm

    Vanity Fair always has really good insider Trump stories from Levin and Gabriel Sherman, but I noticed the latter hasn’t had an article on VF.com for some time.  Anyone know what he’s up to?

  34. 34.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 24, 2021 at 9:03 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow. Too bad BiP’s not here to call you a Nazi.

  35. 35.

    Kayla Rudbek

    June 24, 2021 at 9:07 pm

    O/T: three days of radiation treatment (aka playing the large side of a barn) down already. Some nausea/queasiness so far (I’ve had sandwiches for dinner two nights in a row, and I’m going through my instant honey ginger tea like it’s water), tiredness, and my brain seems to want to do things on lowest difficulty setting, judging by how slowly my knitting is going. I have managed to drive myself to treatment and back yesterday and today. No treatments on the weekends or on July 5 for the holiday.

  36. 36.

    jl

    June 24, 2021 at 9:09 pm

    Also glad to see Pelosi is doing the right thing. There is simply no way you can ever trust the vast majority of Congressional GOPers to show any good faith at all. Only thing you can do is set hard ground rules so when they try to fink out, they’ll hurt themselves. We may have found the sweet spot for that to work here.

    And ‘vast majority’ is generous. I can only think of maybe two or three GOPers on Congress that I would trust further than how far I could throw a house on fire. Edit: which is also generous to those two or three.

  37. 37.

    Suzanne

    June 24, 2021 at 9:14 pm

    We all knew this would happen: the trash takes itself out.

    Theyre terrible, and now they have realized that everyone thinks they’re trash and they don’t have friends or a New York life to go back to. Oh well.

    In better news, Spawn the Youngest turns two years old tomorrow! She is a great kid. Tonight she wore me out.

  38. 38.

    geg6

    June 24, 2021 at 9:15 pm

    That’s some Cracker level snark right there.  Couldn’t happen to better people.

  39. 39.

    James E Powell

    June 24, 2021 at 9:17 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    Damn, that’s a hard thing. My sister went through it ’19. Best wishes to you. Stay strong.

  40. 40.

    Mike in NC

    June 24, 2021 at 9:19 pm

    Getting close to finishing Michael Wolff’s “Siege: Trump Under Fire” and devouring every chapter. It covers the years 2017-2018 of the Trump Error, with lots of juicy details about the Insane Orange Clown’s stupidity and depravity (as well as that of his relatives and henchmen). Can’t wait to get his next book when it comes out at the end of June.

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 9:19 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    (aka playing the large side of a barn)

    My colleagues in the atom-smashing business measure the size of things, and I’m not making this up, in nano-barns, pico-barns, and femto-barns.

  42. 42.

    geg6

    June 24, 2021 at 9:19 pm

    @debbie:

    They will most likely get a little mushy from freezing.  They’ll still be delicious but you need to use them in something like a pie or galette or cook them down to use as a sauce for ice cream or over some pound cake.

  43. 43.

    Ruckus

    June 24, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    My radiation treatment went fine but I was still on the every day for nine weeks routine. It gets real old having to drive or train across most of LA for over 2 months every day.

    On the other hand we very, very likely have/had different types of cancer so that may make the treatment quite a bit different no matter what. Hope it gets better and easier to take and most important, I hope it works as well as mine did.

  44. 44.

    jl

    June 24, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    @geg6:  Yeah, damn straight. Freeze those berries when they’re super ripe and super sweet and super flavorful. Can do a lot of things with them later, just have to fancy them up a little bit with something when you thaw them.

    Edit: don’t even need to add much at all, just add some vanilla and spices, and simmer to reduce to versatile pie filling type of deliciousness.

  45. 45.

    debbie

    June 24, 2021 at 9:23 pm

    @geg6:

    Thanks. I think I’ll just pig out on them now and remember them later.

  46. 46.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2021 at 9:24 pm

    ???

     

    Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) tweeted at 4:22 PM on Thu, Jun 24, 2021:
    99.2 percent of all U.S. covid deaths are unvaccinated, new analysis shows https://t.co/qnVSM1xndU https://t.co/tJsviE35sG
    (https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1408173650180718592?s=03)

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    @laura:

    Get great tips on this blog

  48. 48.

    Kent

    June 24, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    @dmsilev: The whole “new age” movement was full of credulous dipshits to begin with.  Crystal healing????

    No surprise to me that all those dipshit lemmings chased down the Q- rabbit hole.

  49. 49.

    Procopius

    June 24, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    Barely related to the topic, but I notice everybody here calls the couple “Javanka.” Several other sites I frequent call them “Jarvanka.” I find that aesthetically more pleasing. Anyway, [family blog] ’em.

  50. 50.

    geg6

    June 24, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    @Keith P.:

    Sherman had started his own site, Punchbowl News or something like that.  I have not given his hot takes any clicks.  From what I can see, it’s a Politico/Axios wannabe.

  51. 51.

    Redshift

    June 24, 2021 at 9:29 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek: Sounds a lot like my experience, good luck with it. Remember it will take a while for your energy level to recover even after you’re done.

  52. 52.

    egorelick

    June 24, 2021 at 9:31 pm

    Jared and Ivanka are wildly rich. They don’t care. Jail maybe, but nothing short of that matters to them.

  53. 53.

    Splitting Image

    June 24, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    @dmsilev:

    The LA Times had a quintessentially-California take on QAnon today: California’s yoga, wellness and spirituality community has a QAnon problem

    Not as insane as it sounds. One of the founders of the 20th century fitness movement, Prunella Stack, was fascist-adjacent in the 1930s. Her group was called the “Women’s League of Racial Health and Beauty” and she was married to the guy Rudolf Hess was trying to contact when he got himself captured during the war.

    There is enough woo in the New Age movement that it’s not much of a stretch to hear that someone into horoscopes or crystals is falling for Q-style conspiracies.

  54. 54.

    schrodingers_cat

    June 24, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    @dmsilev: I am not surprised by this my ex-friend who was a Yoga teacher went from supporting BS to voting for Jill Stein to making excuses for the Muslim ban and the harsh treatment of asylum seekers at the southern border. After which she was no longer my friend

  55. 55.

    TomatoQueen

    June 24, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    My late mother dipped berries into superfine sugar or caster sugar, setting them out on a jelly roll pan or other small tray, and then froze them for about 20 minutes.  Then into little bowls with a dollop of whipped cream on top. There weren’t any left overs to find out how they did over night.

  56. 56.

    zhena gogolia

    June 24, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    Has this been quoted yet, since Gen. Milley is our new hero?

    When Stephen Miller told Trump inside the Oval that “cities are burning” during Floyd protests, an infuriated Milley spun around in his seat and pointed a finger directly at Miller.“Shut the fuck up, Stephen,” Milley snapped.https://t.co/MWjyA6ou0V https://t.co/p0drLVFR6d pic.twitter.com/1MGNm4QYOp— Michael C. Bender (@MichaelCBender) June 24, 2021

  57. 57.

    JoyceH

    June 24, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    @Procopius:

    Barely related to the topic, but I notice everybody here calls the couple “Javanka.” Several other sites I frequent call them “Jarvanka.” I find that aesthetically more pleasing. Anyway, [family blog] ’em.

    I saw something where someone suggested that it might be more appropriate to reverse the order of the name segments, which would make them – Ivanred. Ivan Red. So apt!

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    @NotMax:

    That was really interesting! Thanks.

  59. 59.

    Kent

    June 24, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    From the CNN article:

    Kushner’s presence, physically and virtually, has become increasingly rare as it became clear that his father-in-law remained preoccupied with the 2020 election, according to one person familiar with the situation.

    “He was kind of like a parent who sticks around less and less each morning while they’re transitioning their kid to day care,” this person said.

    OK then…..

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    @Kent

    Put in place cranes powerful enough to lift the pyramids and we’ll find a treasure trove of really, really, really sharp razor blades underneath ’em, don’tcha know.

    //

  61. 61.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 24, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    @JoyceH: Daughter-wife and the Plausible Beard.

  62. 62.

    Kayla Rudbek

    June 24, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    @dmsilev: I knew that you would get it! (For the non-physicists, a barn is in fact a unit of measurement for area in nuclear physics, as in “couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn”.)

  63. 63.

    geg6

    June 24, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    @egorelick:

    I couldn’t possibly disagree more.  Ivanka has spent decades trying to be one of the NYC social arbiters and so have the Kushner family.  Seems that Jared’s brother and his wife Karlie Klass (sp?) have made it, mainly by being good Democrats and staying as far away from the scummy in-laws as is possible to get over the course of the last five and a half years.  Jared and Ivanka will never, ever, ever, ever be accepted the way they have.  It’s eating them up, thus the PR push, which is really Maggie Haberman’s forte.

  64. 64.

    PPCLI

    June 24, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    @JoyceH: 

    As bad as that event was, it could have been worse. Those lunatics (or at least some of them) believed that Kamala Harris was on board, to judge by some of their social media postings. I’m frankly surprised it has taken this long for there to be the possibility of legal consequences.

  65. 65.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 24, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    @debbie: I used to freeze raspberries. I sugared them lightly, spread them in a single layer, and put them in the freezer. Then I put them in a serving size container. We ate them when they were still a little icy

    ETA: Re Jarvanka: Have they said Joe Biden won a free and fair election? That would be a good first step to “distance” themselves.

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2021 at 9:44 pm

    Does Bedminster have a private lounge-slash-cafe named the Russian Pee Room?

    //

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    This is really off the wall, but I’ll ask anyway. There used to be a popular set of internet cartoon stickers of a cute cat that you could use to comment in a message board or FB. The cat’s name was something like Pushina or Pushmina — it wasn’t either of those, but I’m almost positive there was a “Push” somewhere in the name.

    I’m trying to track the cat character down, for reasons. Does anyone know what I’m talking about? Do you recall the name?

    Thanks in advance.

    ETA: Thought of it the second I hit the Send button! It’s Pusheen!

    https://pusheen.com

  68. 68.

    JoyceH

    June 24, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    @PPCLI: ​
     

    Maybe they were waiting/hoping for criminal charges. I noticed in the article that the police called the incident still under investigation. Hmm.

  69. 69.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 24, 2021 at 9:48 pm

    @JoyceH: Which it will remain until the heat-death of the Universe.  B/c Texas.

  70. 70.

    aliasofwestgate

    June 24, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:  Pusheen.  Very popular little critter. Also mega cute. XD

  71. 71.

    Another Scott

    June 24, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    Meanwhile, …

    Biden quietly hit a milestone today: He's confirmed more lifetime federal judges than any president has done in decades by this point in their first six months in office. https://t.co/epxnNE6p8B

    — Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) June 24, 2021

    Good, good.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  72. 72.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 24, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    @WaterGirl: 

    Wake me when they get their orange jumpsuits!

    Orange Jumpsuits on the Sun?

    You know a group is shit when it’s hard to pick the worst person. And this Soviet shitpile mobster crime family…

  73. 73.

    Splitting Image

    June 24, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    This is really off the wall, but I’ll ask anyway. There used to be a popular set of internet cartoon stickers of a cute cat that you could use to comment in a message board or FB. The cat’s name was something like Pushina or Pushmina — it wasn’t either of those, but I’m almost positive there was a “Push” somewhere in the name.

    I’m trying to track the cat character down, for reasons. Does anyone know what I’m talking about? Do you recall the name?

    Thanks in advance.

    Pusheen the cat.

  74. 74.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek: And, it should be noted, one physics barn is much much much smaller than one normal-person barn. One barn is roughly speaking the area of one atomic nucleus (more precisely, 1e-28 square meters).

    Also, for amusement, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement

  75. 75.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    Favorite unit:

    Sydney Harbour or Sydharb. A unit of volume used in Australia for water. One Sydney Harbour is the amount of water in Sydney Harbour: approximately 562 gigalitres (562,000,000 cubic metres, or 0.562 of a cubic kilometre); or in terms of the more unusual measures above, about 357 Melbourne Cricket Grounds, 238,000 Olympic Swimming pools, or 476,000 acre-feet.[52][53][54]

  76. 76.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 24, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    @Kent:

    “He was kind of like a parent who sticks around less and less each morning while they’re transitioning their kid to day care,” this person said. 

    Oh good grief.

  77. 77.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 24, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    @dmsilev:

    357 Melbourne Cricket Grounds 

    You can play cricket underwater?

  78. 78.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 10:02 pm

    you know that famous internet meme? yeah, that one, well…

    Scott Kerr @scott_kerr

    Chaplin did it first. 1920s

  79. 79.

    dmsilev

    June 24, 2021 at 10:02 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: That remains the most reliable way of getting the game to end, one way or another, in a reasonable amount of time.

  80. 80.

    Kattails

    June 24, 2021 at 10:02 pm

    @laura: @debbie: Basically, for very soft (i.e.watery) fruits the water expands as it freezes and ruptures the cell walls.  Something like cherries handle it better, and I have a cherry pitter, cut them in half, toss with a bit of sugar and freeze on cookie sheets.  Pop them into zip-lock bags and pull out all winter to use in yogurt and whatnot.  Peaches can be done the same way.  Easier than making a syrup. I luuuuuv cherries.

  81. 81.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 24, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    @NotMax: ​The first Jews to come to Baltimore settled north of Lombard Street on the east side of downtown. To the south across Lombard Street was Little Italy, and back around the turn of the century an Italian-American boy named Tommy D’Alesandro earned money as shabbas goy for the Orthodox there.

    D’Alesandro later became a Congressman and the Mayor of Baltimore – and the father of future Speaker of the House Nancy D’Alesandro Pelosi. Just FTR.

  82. 82.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    June 24, 2021 at 10:07 pm

    @geg6: still can’t believe karlie broke t-swizzle’s heart.

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Hey, it’s not that the Mosleys were good people; it just that the Kushners are so much worse.

  84. 84.

    Kattails

    June 24, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    Having not seen Jared around for some time, he has fallen considerably from first place on my list of “most punchable faces”.  Matt Gaetz has galloped to first place, with Tucker Carlson in a fairly close second, and Cancun Cruz huffing along at third.

    Christ, how much Botox has gone into Ivanka’s cells?  Problem is you can’t get the neck.  Katharine Hepburn commented on that for herself.  She’d held up pretty damn well, without enhancements that I’ve ever heard of, but noted that high necklines were a great help.

  85. 85.

    egorelick

    June 24, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    @geg6:  That kind of disappointment is the kind that normal people deal with constantly. It’s not consequences. It’s nothing special; you didn’t make the cheerleading squad. Normal people don’t even register that kind of disappointment. I mean it matters (I’ve had my share of disappointments), but that’s life.

  86. 86.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 10:12 pm

    Reinstated Doorknob Licker @agraybee 1h
    You guys I’m starting to get really scared that Biden is a gifted politician who has been winning elections and getting what he wants for 50 years and that the ideas the Harvard class of 2014 dream up in a Red Hook happy hour don’t make any sense.

  87. 87.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    @aliasofwestgate:

    @Splitting Image:

    Thanks! As I said in my ETA, I finally remembered Pusheen’s name literally the very second I hit the send button on my original comment. I had been trying to think of the name for two solid hours before that.

    And yes, Pusheen is very cute ?

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    @MontyTheClipArtMongoose:

    Who is t-swizzle?

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 24, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Taylor Swift.

  90. 90.

    phdesmond

    June 24, 2021 at 10:24 pm

    @NotMax: bookmarked that.

  91. 91.

    laura

    June 24, 2021 at 10:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: and debbie re berries:

    Look them over and remove any bits that may be present like leaves. Do not wash (exception for strawberries if necessary- lightly rinse then drain on a dish towel) I do remove the green caps from strawberries. Spread them out on a sheet pan spaced so no touchy. Freeze. Bag em up. I use frozen strawberries straight from the freezer in smoothies as “ice cubes.”  I get a case of gravenstein apples from Sebastopol every August and if any dont get ate right away, I peel slice and freeze for apple walnut cakes in the fall and winter. It’s so nice to pull a sack out of the freezer for cooking and baking when fresh is not obtainable. Good luck!

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    June 24, 2021 at 10:28 pm

    @egorelick:

    These are not normal people in any way shape or form. They are assholes who think the shit they push out of every pore doesn’t stink and that their money makes them far better than anything else possibly could. Because anything having it doesn’t get them by association they can buy. You are right that normal people don’t have this problem but as I said, these are not normal people. They fit, without doubt, in the category known as rich but not worth a dry fart.

  93. 93.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 24, 2021 at 10:40 pm

    @rikyrah: Remember when Rolling Stone was printing RFK Jr.’s antivax bullshit? I guess we can all be thankful they came around.

  94. 94.

    phdesmond

    June 24, 2021 at 10:46 pm

    @Procopius:

    there’s the advantage of avoiding confusion with java = coffee

  95. 95.

    ian

    June 24, 2021 at 10:54 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Indeed good, 223 more to go!

  96. 96.

    Pete Downunder

    June 24, 2021 at 11:03 pm

    @dmsilev: 

    My favorite unit is a unit of beauty – the milli-Helen. The amount of beauty needed to launch one ship

  97. 97.

    persistentillusion

    June 24, 2021 at 11:09 pm

    @Redshift: ​
      My experience after breast cancer in ’17 was 3 weeks of radiation, 3 weeks after that until I felt back to normal. YMMV and best wishes on a swift recovery.

  98. 98.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    June 24, 2021 at 11:11 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: 
    Taylor Swift.

    They are friends to the point that they looked like a couple once upon a time.

  99. 99.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 11:13 pm

    as I don’t know which seventies bard sang, so close, so close and yet so far…

    A five-day stretch in October 2020 — from the moment White House officials began an extraordinary effort to get Trump lifesaving drugs to the day the president returned to the White House from the hospital — marked a dramatic turning point in the nation’s flailing coronavirus response. Trump’s brush with severe illness and the prospect of death caught the White House so unprepared that they had not even briefed Vice President Mike Pence’s team on a plan to swear him in if Trump became incapacitated. […]

    At least two of those who were briefed on Trump’s medical condition that weekend said he was gravely ill and feared that he wouldn’t make it out of Walter Reed. People close to Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, said he was consumed with fear that Trump might die.

  100. 100.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 11:17 pm

    Aaron Rupar @atrupar
    “Just shoot them” — the former President of the United States reportedly wanted the military to massacre protesters

    Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom 22m
    Now you know why Tucker Carlson is attacking the Chairman.
    And yet Jim Mattis stays silent.

    Mattis doesn’t get nearly the opprobrium he deserves. What a remarkable failure.

  101. 101.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 11:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I would never have guessed that in a million years.

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 11:19 pm

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini:

    I had no idea. But neither of them is someone I pay attention to, so not surprising, I guess.

  103. 103.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 24, 2021 at 11:22 pm

    @Kattails:

    Christ, how much Botox has gone into Ivanka’s cells?

    Or Jared’s, for that matter. He has never looked quite human to me, and I think that must be why.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 24, 2021 at 11:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: he’s always had an uncanny valley appearance to me.

  105. 105.

    NotMax

    June 24, 2021 at 11:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Ample regular application of Oil of Assholay.

  106. 106.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2021 at 11:53 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Tell it?

  107. 107.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2021 at 11:54 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek:

    ????

  108. 108.

    Kay

    June 25, 2021 at 12:02 am

    Olivia Krauth
    @oliviakrauth
    · Jun 22
    Same woman just asked a Black reporter if he feels as if he deserves reparations. Completely unprompted.

    Kentucky school board meeting.
    As you can tell by the questions, the concern there is whether or not the middle school social studies curriculum includes “critical race theory”.

  109. 109.

    Kay

    June 25, 2021 at 12:07 am

    Olivia Krauth
    @oliviakrauth
    ·Jun 22
    Porter: JCPS needs to do a better job explaining to the community just who their student body is because it appears like people don’t understand.
    JCPS is a majority-minority district, so racial equity is bringing better outcomes to the majority of students.

    Odd that these “local community members” don’t know that the school is 60% minority students. I would think if one lived there and sent their kids to school in that district one would be aware of who actually attends the school.
    Oh, well, perhaps after the school officials explain who goes to school there we can finally really delve into “critical race theory”, because remember- that’s what they object to.

  110. 110.

    West of the Rockies

    June 25, 2021 at 12:10 am

    Jared has a repugnantly disagreeable mouth (in addition to greasy hair and the physique of a third grade boy); Ivanka has disagreeable, soulless eyes.

  111. 111.

    rikyrah

    June 25, 2021 at 12:18 am

     

    Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) tweeted at 2:42 PM on Wed, Jun 23, 2021:
    Ten years ago, LeBron James created the “I Promise” program to help Akron students graduate high school.

    This year, the inaugural class graduated, with all 193 students awarded free tuition to either the University of Akron or Kent State University.

    That’s life-changing ? https://t.co/GDN8Y1ZVI3
    (https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1407786035451473920?s=02)

  112. 112.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    June 25, 2021 at 1:25 am

    @Keith P.:

    He has a piece on Jeffrey Epstein and Les Wexner in the July/August issue.

  113. 113.

    The Pale Scot

    June 25, 2021 at 1:34 am

    @West of the Rockies:

    Jaws – The Indianapolis Speech Scene

    Ivanka has Lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a Doll’s Eyes,

    Jarad is more like slime mold

  114. 114.

    West of the Rockies

    June 25, 2021 at 2:11 am

    @The Pale Scot:  Love that scene!

  115. 115.

    moops

    June 25, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    I take some comfort in knowing that Trump had a severe case of COVID.  It means he almost certainly has long term damage.  He will have to hide that fact for years.

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