Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

You passed on an opportunity to be offended? What are you even doing here?

The republican ‘Pastor’ of the House is an odious authoritarian little creep.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the gop

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

Republicans: slavery is when you own me. freedom is when I own you.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

When I was faster i was always behind.

Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

We will not go back.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

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Because, when you’re a Repub, it’s *always* projection…

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  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    As someone who has actually read the Crits in law school, I really have to say that they haven’t a fucking clue about it.

  3. 3.

    Another Scott

    Pat's father, Sen. A. Willis Robertson (D-VA), signed the Southern Manifesto, which urged southern legislatures to ignore Brown and maintain segregated institutions.

    It's no shock Pat doesn't want us to think too hard about how officials used state power to entrench racism. https://t.co/FyPYtqi5PD

    — Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) June 25, 2021

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  4. 4.

    Another Scott

    @Omnes Omnibus: They explicitly want it to give a visceral reaction – everything bad is another aspect of CRT.

    (Repost:)

    Circling back, I’m not speculating about this. It’s how Republicans talk, and I hope WaPo reporters are aware that their uncritical acceptance that this foggy term is some defined, identifiable thing in the political consciousness is key to the strategy. pic.twitter.com/6V3YNjBFZC

    — southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 24, 2021

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  5. 5.

    RaflW

    Since it’s an OT, it looks like Seattle set an all-time record last hour.

    @NWSSeattle
    At 5:29 PM PDT this evening, Seattle reached a new all-time record high temperature of 104. #wawx

    They also set a record warm overnight low, and a mean temp for today of 89 degrees. In the least air-conditioned large city in the US.
    Seems like the climate change denial industry is finally reaping the benefits they’ve been promising us for decades.

  7. 7.

    japa21

    On a different matter, kind of, Franklin Graham is an asshole.
    He is running ads in Chicago saying the reason for all the violence in Chicago is because we are all sinners and we need to all call his prayer hotline (and probably give him money) so the violence will stop.
    I had some respect for his father, but he is unfit to call himself any kind of Christian. But then that applies to the folks referenced in the post as well as most RW “Christians”.

  8. 8.

    CaseyL

    @RaflW:  I got back from Port Angeles, which has also been having record highs.  And tomorrow Seattle is expected to get up to 115 °.

    I have found that soaking a towel in cold water and wearing it over one’s head cools one off quite a bit!

    One cat, Jeannie, has been stretched out in front of the fan all day.  It’s now evening, and has cooled off – imperceptibly to me, but enough for her to go out onto the deck and catch some fresh air.

    My other cat, Oscar, came home long enough to greet me, and then disappeared again.  I imagine he has a bolt-hole somewhere green, shadowy, and cool-ish.  Leastaways, I hope so!

    115 °, though.  Yikes! I may fill the tub with cold water and just sit there all day.

  9. 9.

    Brachiator

    Pat Robertson says critical race theory is “a monstrous evil” that is urging people of color to “rise up and overtake their oppressors” so that once they’ve “gotten the whip handle,” they’ll then “instruct their white neighbors how to behave.”

    Hmm. At least Robertson acknowledges white people as oppressors.

  10. 10.

    Eric S.

    @CaseyL: The cold towel on the head trick is  effective. My softball team started bring wicking cloths to the field. We dip them in the coolers, lightly wring them out then put them around our necks or over our heads. Extrelu effective.

  11. 11.

    FlyingToaster

    Pat Robertson says critical race theory is “a monstrous evil” that is urging people of color to “rise up and overtake their oppressors” so that once they’ve “gotten the whip handle,” they’ll then “instruct their white neighbors how to behave.”

    Given some of my neighbors, I think instruction is the very least they’re gonna need.  More likely, they’ll require a clue-cinderblock fired by a trebuchet…

  12. 12.

    Gravenstone

    Not to traffic in stereotypes, but “Pastor” Locke has that look about him, if you catch my drift…

  14. 14.

    Aziz, light!

    Seattle was a refreshing 104? Down the road in Portland we hit 111. Tomorrow 114. It’s the end of the world.

  15. 15.

    SteverinoCT

    @CaseyL:

    My other cat, Oscar, came home long enough to greet me, and then disappeared again.  I imagine he has a bolt-hole somewhere green, shadowy, and cool-ish.

    when I lived in Florida I thought my cats were so hardy: when I left in the morning they would, too, and not return all day. Turns out they were beating feet to the neighbor’s air-conditioned apt.

  16. 16.

    joel hanes

    @HumboldtBlue:

    fire in Hoopa

    oh no.

    I’ve camped all up and down that valley.

    A lot of my favorite camping places in the Sierra and in the Santa Cruz mountains burned last year.   This year is starting early, and much drier.

    Anticipation of grief.

  17. 17.

    bbleh

    And this “pastor” — and dozens if not hundreds like him — have followers.

    I gotta admit, every now and again I just get a little depressed at how many truly dumb people there are in this country.

    Maybe it would have been better to have gone to the Dark Side and gotten rich by fleecing them of their money before someone else did.  As Atrios said, the snacks are better.

  18. 18.

    joel hanes

    @SteverinoCT:

    There’s a delightful children’s picture book called

    Six Dinner Sid

    about a San Francisco cat who is “kept” by six different households, all unaware of each other

    until they figure it out.

  19. 19.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    The ones who scream the loudest always end up having the most to hide (ie Joe McCarthy, Tricky Dick, Dump, countless fundamentalists).

  20. 20.

    joel hanes

    @bbleh: ​
     

    > how many truly dumb people there are

    Fully half of Americans are of below-average intelligence.

    But IMHO what we’re seeing there is only partly about intelligence, and has more to do with tribalism, ignorance, and submersion in a bubble of self-celebrating misinformation

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    and accuse Joe Biden, Oprah Winfrey, and Tom Hanks of being “a bunch of pedophiles

    ??? so 2016! Get a new schtick, you Trump-humping, fascist shitstains! And then throw yourselves into the Sun.

  25. 25.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Anoniminous: Considering the heat of the past couple weeks, I’ll take it

    ETA: I’m taking my son and his girlfriend to the Isotopes tomorrow. We’ll bring jackets. :)

  26. 26.

    VeniceRiley

    Sitting in Laguna Hills and it didn’t crack 80. 82 tomorrow is the tot test it will get thru Tue 6th.

  28. 28.

    Fair Economist

    @CaseyL:

    I got back from Port Angeles, which has also been having record highs. And tomorrow Seattle is expected to get up to 115 °.

    The record here in my area of greater LA is 116, and I remember what that felt like. Combined with the fact that Seattle is far less prepared for that kind of weather – just unspeakably awful.

  29. 29.

    ian

    so that once they’ve “gotten the whip handle,”

    Interesting way to conceive of holding a majority in a democratic society.

  31. 31.

    Gloomyjim

    Oh yeah, Willamette valley is getting cooked. Hit 109 in my little town of Independence and the steakhouse I cook at closed for the evening due to heat and overpowering the AC. Supposed to be even hotter tomorrow. And is kinda humid as well, but that could be due to me living walking distance from the river. My cats are hating life, especially my pudgy panther who is coldweather furry.

    Maybe it is a taste of the Hell these fools keep sayin us hippies and such are destined for. Not as pretty as the RedSkys we got last fire season, but just as annoying.

  32. 32.

    Matt McIrvin

    @ian: For conservatives the idea that you could have a world where nobody has the whip handle just doesn’t register. You have it or I have it, there’s no in between.

  34. 34.

    Jay

    46.1C in the parking lot today, where we keep the heavy equipment and the cage where we keep ladders, lawn rollers, wheelbarrows and scaffolding.

    114.98F.

    hit 48.2C in “the hood”, the covered outdoor plant garden. 118.6F.

    we are all wearing wet kerchiefs and frozen baseball hats.

  35. 35.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @Eric S.: I bought some microfiber cooling towels…they are approx. 8”X15” with pouches and carabiners…they are excellent for walking, hiking, golf.

  36. 36.

    Chris T.

    @CaseyL:

    115°, though. Yikes! I may fill the tub with cold water and just sit there all day.

    It hit about 97 outside here (near Bellingham), according to my car’s thermometer (car is parked outdoors but in shade so this should be reasonably accurate). I had plans to have had air conditioning by now, but they got pushed way back. We did manage to keep the inside of the house from reaching 90. Tomorrow … who knows…

  37. 37.

    Jerzy Russian

    @joel hanes:   I think more than half of the country is of below average intelligence.  For a normal distribution, this would be impossible. However, they are too stupid to realize this and so here we are.

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    I’m seriously considering ordering a kaffiyeh. An old half Jordanian friend from college swore by them. Especially since the east side looks like it’s going to be Tatooine for at least the next week. We are (a bit) more equipped to handle heat over here but only to a point.

  39. 39.

    RaflW

    @CaseyL: OMG I just looked at the dew point in Seattle. It’s the heat and the humidity. At least we in the Midwest mostly have a/c. Of course some can’t afford it, or can’t afford to run it much. When it gets bad here, places like the YWCA will open cooling centers since public buildings almost always have air con.

    115 tomorrow. Eghad.

  40. 40.

    Mike in NC

    It puzzles me why terrible people like Pat Robertson, Bob Dole, Dick Cheney, and Henry Kissinger are still among us.

  42. 42.

    Jay

    @Yutsano:

    Dave in Seasonal adopted one last year. However he soaks it, forms it over a styrofoam mannequin head, stuffs it in the freezer. The biggest lesson he learned last year, was he needed a larger mannequin head.

  43. 43.

    rekoob

    @Another Scott: Thank you for pointing out the generational history of the perfidy and moral bankruptcy of the Robertson clan. As a native Virginian, I can’t say enough about how much damage they’ve done. Sadly, I have cousins who have wandered into their orbit. The good news is that, as you and others have noted, they and their ilk are increasingly ignored in Virginia politics.

  44. 44.

    West of the Rockies

    Fire personnel saying the Hoopa fire does not look like serious trouble, anticipate containment this evening.  Fingers crossed.

  45. 45.

    Yutsano

    @Jay: So…Dave in Seasonal has a big head? :D

    I wouldn’t mind long white cotton robes either. I’m not aiming for cultural appropriation or anything. It’s just so damn hot.

  49. 49.

    Mallard Filmore

    @Matt McIrvin:

     

    For conservatives the idea that you could have a world where nobody has the whip handle just doesn’t register. You have it or I have it, there’s no in between.

    Slavery is when you own me. Freedom is when I own you.

  50. 50.

    CaseyL

    @SteverinoCT:  The only person hereabouts who has AC also already has two (indoor only) cats, and it’s very doubtful they’d let Oscar in.

    We have a lot of greenery here, and the townhouses are built on slopes, which means every building has a cement-sided porch-shaded “basement” level – he could be holed up in any one of them.

    @Eric S.:  It’s worked a treat so far.  My Mom also recommends putting soaked washrags in the freezer, then pulling them out and wearing them.  I’ll do that tonight, in preparation for tomorrow’s hellish weather.

  56. 56.

    TriassicSands

    How many times has Pat Robertson been reanimated? I’ve lost count.

    And thank goodness for level-headed pastors like Greg Locke.

    Tom Hanks, STOP IT!

  57. 57.

    sdhays

    @NotMax: I had never seen that they had said that. It takes my breath away that Fox and Fiends could dare to call Mr. Rogers, of all people, “evil”. Not surprising, but still shocking.

  61. 61.

    ian

    Reading Umberto Eco’s Ur-Fascism for a research project, this seemed relevant

    , Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country.

    In the US, a prominent instance of the plot obsession is to be found in Pat Robertson’s The New World Order,

  64. 64.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    I think Hanks joined the ranks of Those Named By Qanon about the time he and his wife were Covid+ in Australia. Don’t remember why, most likely he said something vaguely critical of TFG.

  66. 66.

    James E Powell

    @bbleh:

    I gotta admit, every now and again I just get a little depressed at how many truly dumb people there are in this country.

    I’d be okay if they were just dumb. It’s the hateful bigotry I cannot deal with. Or as Adam Serwer put it in his NYT Op-Ed:

    [T]he Republican Party’s reigning ideology is . . . a politics of cruelty and exclusion that strategically exploits vulnerable Americans by portraying them as an existential threat, against whom acts of barbarism and disenfranchisement become not only justified but worthy of celebration.

  67. 67.

    James E Powell

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    As someone who has actually read the Crits in law school, I really have to say that they haven’t a fucking clue about it.

    They know all they need to know. It’s a code for the N! word that allows them to whip up their base voters’ bigotry in a way the press/media will never call racist.

  69. 69.

    frosty

    @Fair Economist: ​
    Many years ago I was hitchhiking from Claremont to San Diego while a Santa Ana was blowing. It was 105 degrees, I was standing in the shade of the Freeway Entrance sign and I could feel my eyeballs drying out. The first ride had a six-pack of beer but it was too hot for anything but ice water.

    116 … yikes! Here in the east it’s in the 90s with high humidity. Pretty miserable, but at least you don’t feel like you’re drying out to dust and you’ll be blown away on the wind.

  70. 70.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Mike in NC: I recall at least one flippant answer to that question: “Heaven won’t take them and Hell’s over capacity.”

  71. 71.

    Anne Laurie

    @The Dangerman: Tom Hanks? Seems kinda random, no?

    Tom Hanks was the first name-brand celebrity to get Covid, and he’s been advocating for vaccination ever since one became available.  BOO!  HISS!  Lie-bral monster!

    Also, the Wingnut Wurlizter keeps mentioning he played Mr. Rogers in that movie, and everybody knows about Mr. Rogers.  I mean, would a grown man willingly hang around with small children, if he didn’t have perverted intentions towards them?

    (I wish I were joking.)

  72. 72.

    Anne Laurie

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: “Heaven won’t take them and Hell’s over capacity.”

    The Irish formulation, when I was growing up, was ‘Heaven won’t have them, and Hell doesn’t want them.’

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    Breaking GAS news: I have just ordered a semihollow electric guitar, an Epiphone ES-335 Pro in cherry red, for a bargain price of RM1,900.

  77. 77.

    Amir Khalid

    @NotMax:

    The antlers failed to sprout on my head — they warned us, the Sinovac tends to be light on side-effects — so this will have to do.

  79. 79.

    brantl

    I think Tom Hanks is civic-minded enough, he may make the effort to sue this dumb SOB for slander, and maybe Oprah will join the suit, as well?

  81. 81.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @brantl: Tom Hanks and Oprah Winfrey would have to get past the public-figure hurdle, and I wouldn’t put it past the GQPers to shamelessly lean into the Hustler v. Falwell precedent (similarly to how they claimed with a straight face that Tucker Carlson’s schtick couldn’t be considered “news” by a reasonable person).

  82. 82.

    JML

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: this is a fascinating test case; Tom Hanks is incredibly well-liked. Can these loons manage to turn the cult against him? Or will this be where they finally hit the wall, a la McCarthy trying to go after the US Army?

  84. 84.

    J R in WV

    @ian: 

    so that once they’ve “gotten the whip handle,”

    Obviously this southern person has a visceral and fairly complete understanding of how things were back in the good ol’ days of bondage slavery and torture of darker people. “The whip handle” is not a phrase I ever thought of, myself.

    He didn’t mention the institutional rape, perhaps that’s kept under the table rather than preached in church?

  85. 85.

    joel hanes

    @WaterGirl: ​
    I’m so glad.
    The artwork is wonderful, the San Francisco residents are suitably lifestyle-diverse, and the final message in the book is about openness and honesty. I hope you get a chance to read it yourself.

  86. 86.

    joel hanes

    @WaterGirl:

    Since you’re into sending children’s books, allow me to recommend another:

    The Widow’s Broom by Chris Van Allsburg is one of the best Halloween books ever.

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