"The Trump vaccine" ??
But hey, it's a cult, so whatever works.https://t.co/EEldfX7bqW— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) July 25, 2021
The people being vaccinated now are not members of the eager crowds who rushed to early appointments. But they are not in the group firmly opposed to vaccinations, either.
Here's what they said this week about what finally moved them to get the shot. https://t.co/BaLevlOr0f
— Julie Bosman (@juliebosman) July 24, 2021
We human individualists are herd animals. If ‘well, I’m only doing this for the gift card / to be polite / because it’s inconvenient *not* to’ works to get more people vaxxed, I’ll take it:
… On a single day this past week, more than half a million people across the United States trickled into high school gymnasiums, pharmacies and buses converted into mobile clinics. Then they pushed up their sleeves and got their coronavirus vaccines.
These are the Americans who are being vaccinated at this moment in the pandemic: the reluctant, the anxious, the procrastinating.
In dozens of interviews on Thursday in eight states, at vaccination clinics, drugstores and pop-up mobile sites, Americans who had finally arrived for their shots offered a snapshot of a nation at a crossroads — confronting a new surge of the virus but only slowly embracing the vaccines that could stop it…
Some of the newly vaccinated said they made the decision abruptly, even casually, after months of inaction. One woman in Portland, Ore., was waiting for an incentive before she got her shot, and when she heard that a pop-up clinic at a farmers’ market was distributing $150 gift cards, she decided it was time. A 60-year-old man in Los Angeles spontaneously stopped in for a vaccine because he noticed that for once, there was no line at a clinic. A construction worker said his job schedule had made it difficult to get the shot…
Others were moved by practical considerations: plans to attend a college that is requiring students to be vaccinated, a desire to spend time socializing with high school classmates, or a job where unvaccinated employees were told to wear masks. Their answers suggest that the mandates or greater restrictions on the unvaccinated that are increasingly a matter of debate by employers and government officials could make a significant difference…
Willie Pullen, 71, snacked on a bag of popcorn as he left a vaccination site in Chicago, one of the few people who showed up there that day. He was not opposed to the vaccines, exactly. Nearly everyone in his life was already vaccinated, he said, and though he is at greater risk because of his age, he said he believed he was healthy and strong enough to be able to think on it for a while.
What pushed him toward a high school on the West Side of Chicago, where free vaccines were being administered, was the illness of the aging mother of a friend. Mr. Pullen wanted to visit her. He felt it would be irresponsible to do so unvaccinated.
“I was holding out,” Mr. Pullen said. “I had reservations about the safety of the vaccine and the government doing it. I just wanted to wait and see.”…
Many of the people who newly sought shots said they had wanted to see how the vaccines affected Americans who rushed to get them early.
“I do know people who have gotten it and they haven’t gotten sick, so that’s why,” said Lisa Thomas, 45, a home health care worker from Portland, Ore. “I haven’t heard of any cases of anyone hurting from it, and there’s a lot to benefit from it.”…
Elizabelle
The Trump vaccine. //snort. Overpriced, flashy, and does not work, or only stays up for 2 minutes. WTG, Sarah we don’t miss you one bit.
Nicole
God almighty, I hope herd behavior is on our side. I read some really depressing articles yesterday about experts’ projections that the third wave won’t peak until mid-October, due to vaccine refusal and people not wearing their damn masks. But they said these are projections and can change. One hopes.
Barbara
You mean it’s no longer the Fauci ouchie? Well that must make all the difference.
Elizabelle
AP:
Baud
Aside from making it free, the government had as much involvement with this vaccine as any other medication.
docNC
Sarah Huckabee is just a pathetic human being.
Baud
But there are a lot of unvaccinated who are not Trumpers with a political ax to grind. The otherwise vaunted youngs seem to be a particular problem. Those are solvable with persistence.
WhatsMyNym
Because she’s running for governor??
Ajabu
@docNC:
Are we certain she IS a human being? After all, her father is Mike Huckabee…
Cermet
First off, the writers statement that a half million people came to be vaccinated and then talks about vaccine hesitancy – rather misleading. For nearly two weeks vaccination rates have averaged a half million. Many to most are likely getting their second shot (from the data of that number still increasing a good bit) and the rest will be a mix of some hesitant, people coming of proper age, and teens that now can and a small number of foreigners. There is no wave yet of hesitant people finally getting vaccinated or at least they have presented no data even remotely supporting that idea.
So stupid is now reaching a level that will act like a black hole and suck in even more stupidity – with Delta burning through these total clowns they still are hesitant!!! No, they’ve been told by their betters its a hoax and they’ll follow that clown car to their getting covid. Not expecting to see that half million average and its makeup changing very much.
Kent
I’m just fucking sick of reading about all these dipshits who refuse to get vaccinated.
It is basic hygiene. What is next? A bunch of breathless stories examining the motivations and feelings of people who don’t brush their teeth and floss? And how, for some of them it is just too inconvenient to get time off work to go get a toothbrush at CVS so they just do without? And how for some communities, access to toothbrushes is problematic?
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Refusing medicine to own the libs – and possibly own a 6-foot-deep hole in the ground!
Baud
@mrmoshpotato:
Those are the Trumpers. Can’t do anything about them except ostracize and segregate. I’m talking about the rest.
Elizabelle
This looks interesting. Haven’t read it, but might be helpful for those who claim to have had Covid, and are on the fence about the vaccine.
https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/06/22/how-immunity-generated-from-covid-19-vaccines-differs-from-an-infection/
Anomalous Cowherd
I can haz Trump vaccine? And my immune system will fight Trump? And then he’ll go away? Where do I sign up?
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Ah, misinterpreted.
Hopefully the yoots realize that they aren’t invincible.
Ajabu
I’m actually embarrassed to admit this but, in the late 70’s (while working as a music teacher for L.A. schools) I was asked to put a band together to do educational performances for HS students – because I had a history of doing that. I organized a large group of music teachers and ended up call ing the band TRUMP. I had never heard of TFG at the time (I was in California and he hadn’t started his ridiculous TV show). The name was an acronym for Ten Ridiculously Underpaid Musicians Playing. I’m sorry. It seemed like a good idea at the time. If only I had known what I was conjuring…
Another Scott
@Ajabu: [snort!]
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@Ajabu:
You could have gone with Band Acting Under Duress.
sab
@Baud: I feel so lucky that every last one of our kids and siblings thundered off to get vaccinated as soon as possible.
We have friends with kids in their thirties and forties who simply refuse.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ajabu: So you’re to blame!
Another Scott
Whoops.
Cheers,
Scott.
OzarkHillbilly
@sab: Funny, I don’t feel lucky mine got the shot at first opportunity. I thought it was my job to teach them to use their heads and think through the consequences of their actions.
OzarkHillbilly
@Another Scott: Ooooopps. Nothing that money can’t fix.
Baud
@Another Scott:
“We tried to be less racist and failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.”
laura
Spouse and I are on a date in San Francisco at a punk show outside in a park….wearing our face masks. Maybe a third of the crowd is and rest carrying on and getting down with their bad old naked face selves. It feels most like a before times show, almost. In case anyone is wondering, the Avengers tore it up! Were waiting on X to close out a fine day.
Cermet
My daughter not only arranged to get the shot as soon as “official Gov” people could, but got me my appointment first. Raising your children to be both responsible and have the wisdom to deal with the world is our job description as OzakHillbilly correctly points out.
sdhays
Didn’t a majority of the country obtain the “Trump Vaccine” last November? Our anti-bodies and T-cells are still working hard, but since January most of us have been able to breath again…
sab
@OzarkHillbilly: Historically, these kids have not used their heads much. So it was a really pleasant surprise.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
so, today I learned that a metal whip is a thing…
RSA
An article in The Atlantic is also informative.
Barbara
Right, but if your parents are barely functioning you might not have learned what you need. A lot of kids seem to have more common sense than their parents.
Joey Maloney
And the next Governor of Arkansas, sad to say.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
At the SOTU, I would like Biden to honor the American heroes who turned in the insurrectionists. Maybe the Bumble date can sit next to Jill.
Chetan Murthy
@RSA: I appreciate Ed Yong, and he’s trying to do his job, which is to help people come to the right decision. Which is fine. But the recent surveys of the unvaccinated make it clear that, while different ones have different reasons, they’re *all* defectors in this giant Prisoner’s Dilemma that is modern communal life.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: I love it, the Bumble Irregulars.
Listening to the NPR top-of-the-hour news and they’re saying Pelosi has other Republicans– besides Cheney and Kinzinger– who have asked about being appointed.
Elizabelle
If you remember the charming fired Rocky Mount police officer, Thomas Robertson, he of the insurrection (“we were invited in”), then pipe bomb and loaded M4 found on his premises while on release after his arrest, pending trial. And — 34 guns, count ’em, 34 (that we know about) he has purchased since being released on recognizance, although he has not picked them up yet:
He in jail. Still.
Was sent back by the judge in early July, and now there is possible new evidence to keep him there. This weasel needs to stay in jail until his trial. Think of it as a deposit on “time served.”
From an earlier story, from late June: (Source: WSLS TV 10, https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2021/06/30/us-looks-to-revoke-former-rocky-mount-police-officers-release-after-rifle-partially-assembled-pipe-bomb-found-at-his-home/)
While executing a search warrant at Roberton’s property in Ferrum on Tuesday, authorities said they found a loaded M4 rifle, a partially-assembled pipe bomb and they seized several span cans of ammunition and two boxes of 7.62 ammunition.
… As part of Tuesday’s search warrant, agents also talked with the owner of Tactical Operations Inc., the Federal Firearms License owner in Roanoke where Robertson has 34 firearms waiting for him to pick up. Robertson had previously told the owner that he cannot have guns because of his current bond conditions, according to court documents.
The owner also told the FBI that Robertson had been in his store to
fondlehandle several of these guns as recently as a week ago, according to court documents.The motion to revoke Robertson’s release also detailed how during a search on Jan. 19, four days after the court-issued deadline to relocate any firearms in his home, authorities seized eight firearms.
…. the genius had also posted this on a gun forum:
From a late February story: (and TV station WSLS, Channel 10 in the Roanoke valley has done a great job covering these guys, no paywall):
OzarkHillbilly
@sab: Well, for a while none of us do/did. If they/we survive long enough it’s because they/we learned to. :-)
Elizabelle
@RSA: Can you tell if that Atlantic article is behind their paywall or not?
Some of their covid coverage is free, but it is hard to tell which is which. Thank you.
Elizabelle
@laura: X! You lucky bug. Enjoy.
Is Exene still with the band??
OzarkHillbilly
@Elizabelle
Here’s to drowning because he never learned to swim.
Rob
@laura: The Avengers and X!! Wow. So envious!
Elizabelle
@OzarkHillbilly: And he’s weighted down by all the weapons, tactical gear, and ammo.
Laughing.
I cannot believe this guy is acting like this while he was out on release. Informational for whatever penalty he ends up with, after his trial.
I am wondering if the FBI has arrested more people, care of Robertson’s online antics. Or maybe they’re just watching closely. Who is he in touch with? Why the 34 guns??
steve g
I don’t think humans are herd animals, in fact. We are more inclined to group up in small bands.
I want to propose a new strategy, in which we convince the laggards that masks and scarves are small weapons, like pistols and knives. We suggest to them they should want the big gun for fighting the virus, the AR-15 of virus fighting, also known as the Pfizer vaccine.
Mike in NC
@Joey Maloney: Possibly. About 40 years ago I drove through Arkansas while going from California to North Carolina. Struck me just as a very weird place.
OzarkHillbilly
@Elizabelle: What gets me is the purchase of them while on bail, like nobody would notice? As best I can tell from what I read there, the dealer did what he was supposed to and submitted the back ground check, and having done that it was going to flag the FBI. Not finalizing the sale wouldn’t change that fact.
OzarkHillbilly
There are stadiums, concert halls, and innumerable other venues that argue otherwise.
CaseyL
@Rob:
I am not only an Old, I am an Old who pays no attention to recent music at all.
“The Avengers and X” to me is a superhero mashup.
Rob
@Elizabelle: It isn’t for me.
(All cookies are deleted when I shut down this computer every night, and I haven’t looked at the Atlantic today until now)
Joey Maloney
@Mike in NC: I can’t imagine what could upend that race enough to keep Hucklebuck Sandpaper out. Maybe if it’s discovered she’s trans.
Rob
@CaseyL: I can see that! I’m an old who never really paid attention to comics and certainly not to games/gaming. The Avengers are one of my all time favorite punk bands, and X is too.
eta: The Avengers were a late 70s San Francisco band, and X is from Los Angeles and started in the late 70s too.
Elizabelle
@OzarkHillbilly: It is so blatant.
Elizabelle
@Rob: Thank you.
Shalimar
@Ajabu: And Sarah’s brother is just as much of a worthless piece of shit as he was 20 years ago. I had the misfortune to meet him a few times when his parents had a house nearby.
Rob
@Elizabelle: Yes, Exene is still with the band. It looks like all four founders currently comprise the band.
Elizabelle
People: google X and Avengers concert, and you’ll find a link to watch the show laura is watching live. Right now. X is doing Dancing with Tears in my Eyes right now.
Via some platform called Stageit that’s allegedly free. You just have to register.
https://www.stageit.com/x_the_avengers_dj_omar/stern_grove_festival/98463
Geminid
@OzarkHillbilly: People can be dumb when it comes to buying guns even while prohibited. A friend’s son told me about being in line at a Dick’s Sporting Goods, waiting to buy some shotgun shells. The man in front tried to buy a handgun. The clerk scanned his drivers licence, and very helpfully asked him to wait while she checked the stock room to see if they had a better deal. A couple minutes later two cops walked up and arrested the guy for trying to buy a firearm as a convicted felon.
Joey Maloney
@Shalimar: On the Redneck Riviera? WE used to vacation down there. Truly a there goes the neighborhood moment.
Elizabelle
@Rob: Yep. Lot of familiar faces. Good to see them.
I have never heard of The Avengers. Will have to check them out later.
Shalimar
@Joey Maloney: Yeah. Though the Huckabees sold their place last year and last I heard Huckabee fils didn’t have a job or place of his own to live, so hopefully he is gone too.
mrmoshpotato
@Geminid:
Oops!
raven
@Joey Maloney: Fucking assholes are killing 30a
”
“BLUE MOUNTAIN BEACH — Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife Janet have sold their South Walton County beachfront home for $9.4 million, the real estate agent who represented the buyers has confirmed.
Joe Burton, who specializes in selling properties along and near County Road 30A, would say only that the buyers are out-of-state residents. They will use the home as a second residence and will not offer it as a vacation rental property, Burton said.”
Geminid
@mrmoshpotato: He did get a better deal.
mrmoshpotato
@Geminid: He probably disagrees.
Rob
@Elizabelle: Thanks!
MJS
Serious question – I’m vaccinated. Why do I need to wear a mask? Because I can still catch Covid and pass it to the unvaccinated? I’m willing to do that in consideration of those who cannot safely take the vaccine, but no one else.
Geminid
@mrmoshpotato: It was a better deal. Just not for him
Last time I went to Dick’s Sporting Goods I noticed a woman at a table just inside the door, next to a small safe. Virginia is an open carry state, but stores can refuse to let anyone carry a firearm inside, and Dick’s does.
Patricia Kayden
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
If we paid $100 to everyone (approx 350 million) it would cost 35 billion.
That’s cheap.
Chetan Murthy
@MJS: Two reasons:
JoyceH
Something that I think is a factor in driving vaccinations is that the general public has just had it up to here with the unvaccinated. For months and months we’ve been told we had to coddle their little fee-fees, but that sure didn’t work. But now even Republican governors are speaking disparagingly about how you expect folks to have common sense, etc. It’s conventional wisdom that the right doesn’t really care what the librul elites think about them, but boy-howdy they do. And look at the way they put down immigrants – they’re just dirty disgusting disease-carriers. Well, now they’re on the receiving end of that disgust, for quite valid reasons, and it doesn’t feel so good.
Of course, the big driver is going to be vaccine mandates for work, school, public transportation, attending sporting events and so on. But being looked down on as dumb disease carriers is an added discomfort.
raven
@JoyceH: I wish these assholes would mandate it for SEC football. . .but they won’t.
Elizabelle
Goddamn. My violin is so tiny, cannot even find it.
JoyceH
@Chetan Murthy:
Add a third reason. When the Delta is spreading like wildfire, the vaccinated going unmasked provide protective cover for the unvaccinated who are still not wearing a mask. If you have a mixed group of masked and unmasked in the grocery store, there’s no way to tell who among the unmasked is vaccinated. Until this latest surge is beaten back, we need to make it standard practice to mask indoors, so that the unmasked (many of who will not be vaccinated) will be Shunned and made to feel uncomfortable.
Suzanne
@laura: We bought tickets to see Bad Religion in November and I am unbelievably excited about it. I need some punk to deal with my feels.
NotMax
@JoyceH
The vaccinated unmasked are the ones the compass needle unwaveringly points to.
//
Just Chuck
@JoyceH:
One could reasonably point out that this plays right into the anti-masker’s tirades that we just want to keep everybody masked up forever. If you want to heap this kind of shame on me as a vaxxed person, I can also point out my reply will be GFY.
Chetan Murthy
@JoyceH: A fourth: in the runup of this new surge, with Delta rampant, the last thing I want, is to learn in (say) September, is that gosh, if I’d only masked in August, I wouldn’t have caught this new “mu” variant that busts the vaccine. While I’m coughing my lungs out.
I still want to live my life. I’m going to the gym, taking mass transit, etc. Going in stores. But I’m going to be masked where it’s easy, b/c I don’t want to look back with regret at my lungs by the side of the road.
Again, this is purely self-interested. I also care about the involuntarily unvaccinated (which at this point, is kids — the others have *agency* and I don’t accept this bullshit that people can’t set aside two hours, twice, for a civic duty, over *three months* of open availability).
P.S. this is in SF. I can imagine in some Red State hellhole, that there are many involuntarily unvaccinated adults. Sure.
JoyceH
@Just Chuck:
The midst of a severe and increasing pandemic surge is not ‘forever’.
Cacti
I wish there was a Trump vaccine.
About 74 million Americans need it.
Chetan Murthy
@Just Chuck:
JoyceH@ adduced a reason from altruism. Which is great, but none of my reasons were altruistic (other than protecting the involuntarily unvaxxed — and I’d think we *all* want to protect children).
Chetan Murthy
@Just Chuck: BTW, you’re vaccinated. That’s already an enormous thing, and honestly, if you don’t want to wear a mask, that should be alright. There may be place you cannot go without a mask, but I’d hope that you would be OK with that — we all follow rules that we think are foolish, after all. I wear a seat belt, wear a bike helmet, don’t speed in school zones, etc.
But you’ve already been very civic-minded, and that’s important to note and celebrate.
Chetan Murthy
@Cacti: I’m with sdhays@: we got our first dose on Nov 3 2020, and our second on Jan 20, 2021. We need a booster shot or two, to make the immunity longer-lasting, is all.
Just Chuck
@Chetan Murthy: Thanks, but I’m not sure I deserve a gold star for getting two free shots in an errand less onerous than picking up the groceries. Hell, one can even get the shot at the grocery store.
Plus there’s having my boobs magnetized as a side bonus. Spill some iron filings on me and I’m the Wolfman.
Patricia Kayden
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The Thin Black Duke
Bottom line, I’m wearing my mask to protect me and mine. Plus, I like living in a civilized society, so I’m going to buy into the social contract. Thinking long term, these anti-vaxx dirtbags won’t be able to ignore the inevitable subtraction within their tribe much longer.
Chetan Murthy
@Just Chuck:
Y’know, I’m with you. But even still: we did our civic duty and didn’t need somebody licking our boots to get off our butts to do it.
It’s something, and manifestly, quite a bit more than some 30-something percent of the adult population can manage.
Just Chuck
@Chetan Murthy: I’m a slacker that makes The Dude look like Elon Musk, and still… what the fuck, America?
Ksmiami
@The Thin Black Duke: at this point, I just want the inevitable to happen quickly so the rest of us can move on
Ksmiami
@Cacti: we need to sue Fox into oblivion…
Ksmiami
@JoyceH: yeah calling a dumb Rt winger a plague rat on YouTube was effective at pressuring him…
Chetan Murthy
@Just Chuck:
Every day, another shocker. Heres one (via LG&M):
Look at that second tweet. You think: “he’s gotta be joking, right? This is bitter sarcasm, right?” Nopes. A quick perusal of his twitter feed, shows that he’s an antivaxxer. He’s serious.
I share your befuddlement.
ETA: I mean, it’s about *polio*. The reason the March of Dimes was launched. The mind boggles.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
And of course, the name Candace Owens pops up…
Uncle Cosmo
Sourah Fuckaduck Slanders: Poster
girlghoul for the classic sayingAnd it’s got a long, long way to go to reach the bone…
Rob
I haven’t stopped wearing a mask indoors, nor have most of the people in the stores I go into in Silver Spring, Maryland. With the increase in the delta variant, anything that helps block the potential spread of Covid to me (or even from me if I end up being an asymptomatic delta-transmitter) helps. IMO
Uncle Cosmo
@Baud: You should think that through – it’s an excellent way to paint a bullseye on their backs.
RSA
@Elizabelle: Oh, sorry! I actually don’t know; I subscribe to The Atlantic. My take is that Yong, in an interview with Rhea Boyd, is suggesting that what we see online in the nature of anti-vax sentiment is a loud but not representative minority. There are people who can be persuaded (Boyd’s interest is in mistrustful African Americans), but it will take work to reach them.
Chetan Murthy
@Uncle Cosmo: This is one of the ways we know it’s a war [sure, a cold one]. Not just politics. People get death threats. Some are murdered.
Ken
People using “Trump vaccine” reminds me a bit of high school kids trying to give themselves a cool nickname. “Hi, I’m Jack, but everyone calls me J-Man.”
Patricia Kayden
@Elizabelle: If it really was the “Trump vaccine”, Trump would be posing with giant needles to get his fans to take it. He never misses an opportunity to praise himself. Never.
Uncle Cosmo
@Chetan Murthy: More importantly, you (and Baud) need to consider the fallout should something untoward happen to someone, anyone, “recognized at the SOTU” as having fingered an insurrectionist. Y’think mebbe that might have a kinda chilling effect on anyone else mulling turning someone in?
Chetan Murthy
@Uncle Cosmo: A-yup. I’m 100% with you. It’s a pity, but a necessity.
Quinerly
Late to the thread. Shitty weekend. Vaccinated neighbor, Cancer survivor is battling Delta that she caught from her unvaccinated 21 year old. He’s in the hospital. Very, very sick.
lowtechcyclist
@Elizabelle:
It’s amusing to watch the desperate and pathetic attempts of conservative influencers to reclaim the Covid vax as theirs after having dissed and disowned it and spread lies about it for six months.
Sure, I’ll be glad if it gets their sheeple to get the shot, but a lot of people have already died who would probably be alive and healthy today if the leaders they trusted hadn’t spent the last six months turning them into anti-vax partisans.
One woman I know fairly well, a southern white evangelical, has been in the hospital since Tuesday because Covid’s doing a number on her lungs. If evangelical leaders had spent the last six months saying how the vax was a gift from God instead of spreading all sorts of lies about it, she’d have gotten the shot and none of this would be happening to her.
So let those conservative leaders take their best shot at convincing their followers that they were wrong for six months, and this time they’re telling them the truth. And when they’re done with that, they should all remove themselves from public life forever. They deserve much worse, of course (consider what Jesus had to say), but that’s the least they can do.
Chetan Murthy
@lowtechcyclist:
Malcolm: “Whoa … good bible”
Honus
@Elizabelle: “I cannot believe this guy is acting like this while he was out on release.
He’s white and he’s a police officer.
Rob
@Quinerly: Oh no, that’s awful. I hope both of them recover and return to good health.
Quinerly
@Rob: preventable in my opinion. Her 18 and 21 year olds were following their dad’s Trumpist thinking (she’s divorced). Her 10 yo lives with her and her wife and is too young to be vaccinated. Older unvaccinated boys come and go at the mom’s home. It was bound to happen. Now the question is whether the vaccinated mom who caught it gave it to 4 neighborhood Yoga classes, full of a lot of vaccinated women who have medical problems. The timing is right re exposure but I honestly don’t know what the research is on vaccinated folks passing on to other vaccinated (immune compromised) folks.
billcinsd
@laura: Penelope Houston is great, you lucky ducky
Richard
@Just Chuck: At this point, wearing a mask is a responsible thing to do. We are still in this pandemic. It will not be forever and asking you to help your community is not shaming you. It is a reasonable request.
MontyTheClipArtMongoose
@laura: is maga-ass exene cervenka there, proselytizing to not get vaxxxed?
Rob
@Quinerly: Oh my. Yikes
Jackie
@Just Chuck: I’m vaxed, yet continue to wear a mask when indoors in public places. I live with two grandchildren under 12, and I’m not about to purposely unknowingly expose them to Covid.
laura
@Elizabelle: Yes- it’s still Exene John Doe Billy Zoom and DJ Bonebreak. It was a most excellent show. I love the big warm rich Gretch that Billy plays. It was the band’s first post Covid show, and ours too.
laura
@laura: exene and Billy both were on good behavior – and she went out of her way to express gratitude to the staff and volunteers. This show kicked ass, brought out all the feels (Suzanne, so will Bad Religion) and was free. Penelope Houston Wow! Just so stoked to be at a show again and have that shared experience in a temporary community.
Elizabelle
@ Laura: Fabulous concert. Thank you for telling us about it.
LeftCoastYankee
“Others were moved by practical considerations…”
Like my Nanna and her card group telling me me to stop being a fucking douchebag.
SFAW
@CaseyL:
You call that stuff that them kids today play “music”? Bah. Why, when I was a kid, they played real music …
NotMax
@SFAW
“It’s been a headlong rush downhill since some bozo began writing down the notes.”
:)
J R in WV
Hope Sarah possum queen catches the Delta V. before the vaccination takes hold. Hope all these RWNJ bastards wind up with erectile disfunction and COPD lung disease.
We have been wearing masks for months, V. tired of it, but glad to not smell anything with our industrial respirators!
Chris T.
@Elizabelle: Nonono, just as the measles vaccine protects you from measles, the Trump vaccine protects you from Trump. That’s why I take it every day!