Update — all six of the apparent #OathKeepers in this @nytimes Visual Investigation who guarded Roger Stone and entered the Capitol have been arrested:
№ 1 #DriverOK James
№ 2 #FlagOK Ulrich
№ 3 #LeatherOK Berry
№ 4 #SmurfOK Grods
№ 5 #SourOK Dolan
№ 6 #GogglesOK Minuta https://t.co/v6tySXqMlw pic.twitter.com/1qUbjHC9mr— benny bryant (@bennybryant17) August 12, 2021
Mr. Stone, a convicted felon who was pardoned by Mr. Trump, has a long history as a self-proclaimed “dirty trickster” political operative. On Jan. 5 and 6, Oath Keepers provided security for him, something he himself confirmed.
— Christiaan Triebert (@trbrtc) February 14, 2021
two have pled guilty and agreed to co-operate:
№ 3 #LeatherOK Caleb Berry
№ 4 #SmurfOK Mark Grodsand 11/12 of the “stack” have been arrested, but there's still more to go…https://t.co/nqEIYTV9bn
— benny bryant (@bennybryant17) August 12, 2021
#CapitolRiot: Three indicted co-defendants in the case have already agreed to plead guilty: Graydon Young, Mark Grods and Caleb Berry. Grods will testify that he and other Oath Keepers conspired to stash weapons outside of DC ahead of January 6. @wusa9 https://t.co/W4eIn9qu8y
— Jordan Fischer (@JordanOnRecord) August 13, 2021
Brooks Brothers Riot. He's done it before.
— Juliette Hall (@TheTurfConsett) August 12, 2021
Roger Stone is the frantic cartoon critter who’s overshot the cliff edge and is frantically pedalling in mid-air… but, hey, it’s worked for him so far…
… Roger Stone refuses to be vaccinated for the coronavirus, paranoid about unknown side effects and claiming “the swine flu epidemic we had under Obama” caused more deaths than COVID-19.
Me: “That is not true.”
Stone: “We’re still under those numbers, in terms of deaths.”
Me: “That is not true.”
Stone: “It is true.”
Me: “That is false.”
Stone: “It’s not false.”
It’s demonstrably false, but Stone maintains a white-knuckle grip on his own version of reality. He’s been banned from most social media (he was kicked off Instagram for operating a network of Proud Boy ghost accounts) and is currently writing a book about the Russia imbroglio, which nearly landed him in prison for three years until Trump pardoned him, weeks before leaving office. He promises a frontal attack on New York Times reporter Michael S. Schmidt, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the Russia investigation, which explored whether Stone was the link between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks. “I take Schmidt’s articles, sentence by sentence, and I rip them to shreds with facts,” growls Stone. “I destroy this guy. He’s a cocksucker. He should turn his Pulitzer back in because he’s a liar.” (This isn’t to say Stone dislikes all Times reporters: “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends,” he says.)…
dmsilev
Huh. I am the-opposite-of-surprised. Completely not-shocked.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Somebody oughta ask ol’ MAGAHabs what she thinks of this. Inquiring minds would very much like to kno
Also, it’s interesting to know that Roger Stone is completely out of touch with reality re:COVID-19. I figured he was one of the types that “knows better” and doesn’t believe the propaganda. Apparently he’s high on his own supply. Or just being a trolling, gaslighting ass to an MSM journalist
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Reminds me of how Tim Russert thought the fact that Rush Limbaugh was a fan of his was something to brag about
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
OT – Have been committing a song list to a binder. Have printed and indexed them with lyrics and chords. Have over 30 with another 10-15 yet to go from my original list (when I get time).
It’s a mix of John Prine, Jimmy Buffett, Jim Croce, Johnny Cash, John Melllencamp, Allman Bros, Jethro Tull.
Am welcoming suggestions along these lines.
Ken
Wondering how his Monty Python “that’s not an argument, that’s just disagreeing” schtick will play in front of a judge. Not well, I’m imagining.
sdhays
Roger Stone is such a liar I assume he’s had twice as many shots of every vaccine as our own Le Comte de Monte Cristo.
Yutsano
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Maybe she can get an interview with ol’ Stony about this eh?
OT: this is a thread about what exactly happened to me in the hospital. Fair warning: it’s pretty ugly. Once you get licensed you hopefully won’t see something like this.
Comrade Colette
@dmsilev: @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
To be fair, it’s completely possible that Mags thinks she’s one of his best friends AND that Stone is saying this in a deliberate attempt to ratfuck her over.
Yutsano
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: *cough* Nancy Griffith *cough
EDIT: Also, it took me until just now to get the pun in your nym. It would be nice to take a nap but seeing that the nephews are over…yeah.
Mary G
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): My guess is that he got vaccinated as soon as he could, but can’t admit it because the MAGAts would call him a traitor.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Not a suggestion, but I had an ear worm of Bad, Bad Leroy Brown the other day. Specifically, “Leroy learned a good lesson about a’messin’ with the wife of a jealous man”. Over and over again.
dr. bloor
As a theoretical proposition, it might be daunting to be tasked with identifying the six stupidest people on the planet, but those oathkeepers are the chalk in any sane bookie’s ledger.
Comrade Colette
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Rosanne Cash, Eilen Jewell, Janis Joplin, Linda Perry/4 Non Blondes, Lucinda Williams.
James E Powell
Right now, CNN is giving an anonymous lunatic free air time to promote anti-vaxx bullshit from downtown Los Angeles. I’m talking like two straight minutes of uninterrupted ranting, no context, no pushback, just glorification of assholes telling lies.
dr. bloor
@James E Powell: CNN is the Diane Rehm of cable teevee. Heart is mostly in the right place, but their fetish for “balance” renders them completely ineffectual and more of a liability than an asset.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Yutsano:
I was ashamed to have never heard of her before. She’s on my list now.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Yutsano: THANK YOU! You’re the first to ever express that recognition of the pun!
As a former righty/FReeper, it’s good to be recognized for the journey….
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
I’d say Stone has been vaccinated and is lying about it, the way he lies about everything.
Mike in NC
Aside from Trump and Rudy, this is the guy who most needs to rot in prison until Satan calls him home.
dr. bloor
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Hadn’t heard that before, but not surprising. Tim Russert is his generation’s taliking head version of Ronald Reagan–popular and seen as “wise” despite all evidence to the contrary.
Anotherlurker
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
How about Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen? Try some Clancy Brothers or U. Utah Phillips.
Many great artists to cover, so little time.
zhena gogolia
@Yutsano:
Oh, I’m glad you are recovering.
zhena gogolia
@Yutsano:
What’s the pun?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Comrade Colette:
Frantically checking my tab app…
James E Powell
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
You’ve got a lot of J names there. Is that coincidence?
What is the binder for? Are these the songs you are learning, playing, planning to perform?
rikyrah
Flick (@Frediculous) tweeted at 0:20 PM on Sat, Aug 14, 2021:
Black ppl on the internet: we must dismantle the whole white supremacist machine to build any wealth
Old black ppl: if u dont carry your black ass to college, get a good job, avoid any unplanned babies, & save & invest your money & stop worrying about what u cant change
(https://twitter.com/Frediculous/status/1426594622197932034?s=03)
Another Scott
@Comrade Colette: +1
Never give a known liar the benefit of a doubt.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jersey Tomato
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Tim Russert was a Republican. It’s documented that during the 2004 election he wore a Bush pin on the underside of his lapel, and used to flash it to fellow Republicans and GE executives. Every time I hear a liberal cite Russert as an example of a “tough but fair” journalist, I have to laugh.
p.a.
Stone really may not be vaxed, given the p.o.s’ arrogant self-image as an ubermensch.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dr. bloor: Russert was by all accounts a very decent guy behind the scenes. Protected Keith Olbermann back when he was about the only prominent TV voice critical of the Bush administration, in a favorite story of mine (now scrubbed from the internet) once reamed out David Gregory (remember him?) for being rude to a waitress. But as the headlines are all about Afghanistan, he was one of a trio at the NBC Borg, along with Brokaw and Tweety, who really pumped the idea of Bush as a manly man war president, who’s only flaw was that he wasn’t their shared surrogate Daddy, John McCain. Brian Williams was the Shemp to those three Bush Stooges.
Suzanne
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: You need some Lucinda Williams, Josh Ritter, Jeff Tweedy on that list.
Also Lord Huron, War on Drugs, Decemberists.
Another Scott
@Comrade Colette: Harry Nilsson (“Without You”, “Everybody’s Talkin’ at me”, “Jump into the Fire”, …)
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
@Comrade Colette:
A source is a source, of course of course
and no one can talk to a source, of course
that is, of course, unless that source is the famous Roger Stone
–Lyrics M Haberman
James E Powell
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I wonder if Matthews knew that nearly everybody on the left internet called him Tweety.
debbie
Good news indeed.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: oh yeah, that man googled himself, or had somebody do it for him
Suzanne
Mr. Suzanne and I went to a comedy show last night. Opening comic was really funny. He said, “I’m on a great drug. It’s called ‘having a new President’.” Then he made a nasty joke about Trump supporters, and she said, “It’s all right, none of them are here. They’re all in jail. Or on ventilators.”
I approved.
debbie
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Emmylou Harris, Neil Young, Tom Waits, Gillian Welch. I’m sure I could come up with many more. Is there something specific you’re looking for?
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Made the mistake of having Williams’ show running in the background this week when he had on (for an inordinately long time, to plug his book) Andrew Sullivan, over whom Brian fawned like an avid hormonal teenybopper and all but performed an on-air tongue bath. Repeatedly.
Appetite squelching TV.
H.E.Wolf
@Yutsano:
Yikes. Glad to know you’re doing better!
trollhattan
@debbie:
Kinda related, Robert Plant and Allison Krauss will be doing a second album. Can. Not. Wait.
And Allison deserves to be in this list.
trollhattan
@debbie:
Because Roger Stone always lies, he’s vaccinated.
Quinerly
The entire Vanity Fair piece is a wild ride. I can’t remember if there was a link here earlier this week or if I latched on to it from somewhere else. Ann Coulter and company, including Drudge….
mrmoshpotato
The Sun – launched into it – will keep that cut-rate Judge Doom safe from COVID-19.
Quinerly
@trollhattan: it’s going to be fabulous. I’m with you. Cannot wait. ?♥️?❤️?
Sure Lurkalot
@trollhattan: That’s excellent.
And winner winner chicken dinner, the clear consensus is Roger Stone is a fucking liar. Truth be told.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Another Scott:
Or, go with Badfinger’s original version.
Kelly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Robert Earl Keen, Rodney Crowell, Jerry Jeff Walker
Ohio Mom
@Yutsano:
Glad you got to hospital in the nick of time.
Did anyone ever figure out why you sprung that leak? Would be nice to know how to prevent another one.
debbie
@trollhattan:
I am downcast and bereft.
Quinerly
@Suzanne: Josh Ritter… I swoon..
Huge groupie here. Seen him 3 times. Twice here in St. Louis. Puts on a great show. Got turned on to him thru a Terry Gross interview 15 years ago. “Kathleen” is his best, imo.
“Snow is Gone” close second.
I used to think a bit Dylanesque. But I have backed off of giving him that crown b/c of some of his newer stuff.
He’s a published author, though. Oberlin grad. ?
mrmoshpotato
@Suzanne: LMAO!
Do you remember the joke?
dr. bloor
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Quinerly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Don’t know about your binder but you mentioned Jim Croce. Check out his and Ingrid’s kid… AJ Croce. Fabulous musician. Very underappreciated (although, beloved in Europe). Jim died when AJ was just a baby. He’s based out of Nashville now and was touring doing his dad’s music. His young wife died a couple, three years ago. Tragic story. He’s been doing concerts on line from his house in Nashville during Covid. Lots of talking thru stuff.
BUT … He ALSO has some great stuff of his own that never caught on here in the states. Check out his first album from early 1990’s (and the linear notes who played with him?) And the next two albums after that. There’s a great video of him from a few years back with just his Steinway… “Texas Ruby.”
Bill Arnold
LOL. If he’s not lying about not being vaccinated[1] (and thus less likely to be playing with the swine flue line), then we broke Me. Roger Stone’s mind; it did not survive the increasingly-concentrated pickling juice in the RW disinformation cesspool. (It’s pickled many others.)
(Yeah, he has been out there for years (e.g. the claim of an assassination attempt by exotic poisoning), but not entirely broken. I loathe Mr. RS. Reasons.)
[1] Watch for him appearing (or having appeared), or not, in any venue where proof of vaccination is required. (He’s arrogant enough to fuck up that way. He’s pretty quick for somebody his chronological age; his tell on video when he fucks up is looking down for 100-200 milliseconds or so. IMO. )
Another Scott
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That too.
Made me look. SongFacts.
The song might be cursed. :-(
Cheers,
Scott.
Dan B
@Yutsano: Glad you survived. Your recollection seems matter of fact except for a couple of telling details. Keep healing!
J R in WV
@Yutsano:
Congratulations on getting past all that. Good job rehabing after that, take care, keep in touch!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@trollhattan:
I’d bet on that.
Another Scott
@Yutsano: Thanks for filling us in. Glad the Bar’s Leaks did the trick! ;-)
Seriously, best of luck going forward!!
Cheers,
Scott.
James E Powell
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Can you imagine being the un- or poorly paid intern who was tasked with telling him?
Then having to explain it to him?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@James E Powell: legend has it the whole Tweety thing started with one of his own staff
OldDave
On the song list – some of Mark Knopfler’s post Straits work – Notting Hillbillies, his album with Emmylou Harris – because I noticed a bit of a country tilt to the mentions. Traveling WIlburys.
Steeplejack
@dmsilev:
Yes, and of course there’s no chance at all that Stone is throwing that out there as another piece of chaff to sow deceit and confusion. With someone like him, you doubt everything he says, not just the things you don’t like.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@OldDave:
Love that album, sorry I missed that tour
all the people I want to see live have said or probably will soon say “Farewell”
Steeplejack
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Tom Rush, “Wind on the Water.” The chords are not hard, and the song lends itself to a “strumming” version that can be as simple or complex as you want.
Chief Oshkosh
Squeeze ’em, fry ’em. Move to the next ones. Rinse. Repeat. It’s the only way to be sure.
Another Scott
Evergreen, … (Click the image.)
Yup.
It’s not about logic. It’s tribalism. But tribalism will be the death of us all if we don’t resist it. Forward!!
(both via LOLGOP)
Cheers,
Scott.
Quinerly
@OldDave: Traveling Wilburys.
Distilled excellence. Perfection. Both albums.
Plus perfect road tripping music.
Speaking of traveling music.. Don’t hate me but I love Poco and Marshall Tucker Band when driving long distances.
James E Powell
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Damn, I hope it’s true.
Back when I was a 16 year old busboy/dishwasher at a regional chain restaurant, I started calling our district manager Dagwood because he looked just like him. Within weeks, the entire chain was calling him that. Thank god he never found out while I was working there.
rikyrah
@Yutsano:
Wow
??????For you and your recovery
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Same period: Danny O’Keefe, “Good Time Charlie’s Got the Blues.”
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
The Youngbloods (Jesse ColinYoung), “Sunlight.”
You (Comte) probably know that a lot of these songs have “explanatory” YouTube videos with chords, instructions, etc.
Well, that concludes my mini-set from the early ’70s, when I was heavily into wrangling with my guitar.
Craig
@Comrade Colette: Shelby Lynne
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Two hours ago:
Update:
Quinerly
@Craig: here’s one for you… Shelby and a friend (BTW, a great album)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ozySa_v-Bog
Quinerly
@Steeplejack: ♥️??
Capri
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Doobie Brothers would fit into that mix. Their rendition of What A Fool Believes is one of my favorite songs.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
Lying. In Roger’s life it’s at the same or higher level than breathing.
And he does it with the same regularity and natural tendency.
It’s autonomic with him.
trollhattan
@Ruckus:
Can Roger Stone not lie? A conundrum worthy of a Spock and Kirk treatment.
“I always lie.” {Roger Stonebot emits smoke from ears, falls to stage.}
OldDave
Love Poco. Used to keep a cassette tape in the car for longer trips. Also “Crazy Eyes” via a good pair of headphones.
karen marie
@dr. bloor: I was so happy when she retired – or died – whatever took her off the radio. I listen to NPR in the car. Any trip that occurred during her show made for a very quiet ride – with the radio off.
Steeplejack
@James E Powell:
Democratic Underground:
RaflW
Stone is a complete creep, and not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. And of course anything he says, including about Haberman is just as likely disinfo as not, but golly “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends” isn’t really something she would want said about her, by him, I’d think.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: wasn’t there also something about this specific cartoon, when Tweety Bird gets into Dr Jekyll’s lab and becomes a monster version of himself. As I recall, his staff couldn’t believe how the Clenis Affair turned him into a screeching rage-beast (bringing the conversation back to Tim Russert and the currently much-tweeted about Maureen Dowd, who also were obsessed with Teh Clenis)
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That sounds a bit like gilding the lily. I didn’t see that on my (brief) Google dive. Everybody immediately gets “bright yellow hair” and “Tweety.” Score. Assuming or expecting that everybody gets all that extra back-story is very implausible to me.
Christ, look at the way commenters here went wild embellishing “Wilmer.” As you, of all people, should know.
Sure Lurkalot
@Quinerly: I lived in St Louis from 1969 to 1973 and saw Poco in many venues. Good driving music!
Ihop
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Gillian Welch and willie Nelson do a wonderful version of her song “I’m not afraid to die”
I don’t have a link, though.
Shalimar
@Craig: I knew her a long time ago. I was friends in college with Shelby’s high school band drummer.
espierce
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: late to the game here, but “Little Feat”.
Damn, I miss Lowell George
laura
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Add some ladies.
The Lodger
@Quinerly: Was your former pup Poco named for the band?
SWMBO
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
@OldDave:
@Quinerly:
Linda Rondstadt.
Cheryl Wheeler
Christine Lavin
Pretenders (Chrissie Hynde)
Eva Cassidy
Bob Seger
Juice Newton
Michael Martin Murphy
for driving music Asleep at the Wheel
for a mix of children’s and adult’s music Trout Fishing in America