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Open Thread: (Still) Rolling Up the Insurrectionists (Roger Stone Edition)

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Roger Stone is the frantic cartoon critter who’s overshot the cliff edge and is frantically pedalling in mid-air… but, hey, it’s worked for him so far…

… Roger Stone refuses to be vaccinated for the coronavirus, paranoid about unknown side effects and claiming “the swine flu epidemic we had under Obama” caused more deaths than COVID-19.

Me: “That is not true.”

Stone: “We’re still under those numbers, in terms of deaths.”

Me: “That is not true.”

Stone: “It is true.”

Me: “That is false.”

Stone: “It’s not false.”

It’s demonstrably false, but Stone maintains a white-knuckle grip on his own version of reality. He’s been banned from most social media (he was kicked off Instagram for operating a network of Proud Boy ghost accounts) and is currently writing a book about the Russia imbroglio, which nearly landed him in prison for three years until Trump pardoned him, weeks before leaving office. He promises a frontal attack on New York Times reporter Michael S. Schmidt, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the Russia investigation, which explored whether Stone was the link between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks. “I take Schmidt’s articles, sentence by sentence, and I rip them to shreds with facts,” growls Stone. “I destroy this guy. He’s a cocksucker. He should turn his Pulitzer back in because he’s a liar.” (This isn’t to say Stone dislikes all Times reporters: “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends,” he says.)…

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    This isn’t to say Stone dislikes all Times reporters: “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends,” he says

    Huh. I am the-opposite-of-surprised. Completely not-shocked.

  2. 2.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    (This isn’t to say Stone dislikes all Times reporters: “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends,” he says.)…

    Somebody oughta ask ol’ MAGAHabs what she thinks of this. Inquiring minds would very much like to kno

    Also, it’s interesting to know that Roger Stone is completely out of touch with reality re:COVID-19. I figured he was one of the types that “knows better” and doesn’t believe the propaganda. Apparently he’s high on his own supply. Or just being a trolling, gaslighting ass to an MSM journalist

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    This isn’t to say Stone dislikes all Times reporters: “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends,” he says

    Reminds me of how Tim Russert thought the fact that Rush Limbaugh was a fan of his was something to brag about

  4. 4.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    OT – Have been committing a song list to a binder. Have printed and indexed them with lyrics and chords. Have over 30 with another 10-15 yet to go from my original list (when I get time).

    It’s a mix of John Prine, Jimmy Buffett, Jim Croce, Johnny Cash, John Melllencamp, Allman Bros, Jethro Tull.

    Am welcoming suggestions along these lines.

  5. 5.

    Ken

    Wondering how his Monty Python “that’s not an argument, that’s just disagreeing” schtick will play in front of a judge.  Not well, I’m imagining.

  6. 6.

    sdhays

    Roger Stone is such a liar I assume he’s had twice as many shots of every vaccine as our own Le Comte de Monte Cristo.

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  Maybe she can get an interview with ol’ Stony about this eh?

    OT: this is a thread about what exactly happened to me in the hospital. Fair warning: it’s pretty ugly. Once you get licensed you hopefully won’t see something like this.

  11. 11.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    It’s a mix of John Prine, Jimmy Buffett, Jim Croce,

    Not a suggestion, but I had an ear worm of Bad, Bad Leroy Brown the other day. Specifically, “Leroy learned a good lesson about a’messin’ with the wife of a jealous man”. Over and over again.

  12. 12.

    dr. bloor

    As a theoretical proposition, it might be daunting to be tasked with identifying the six stupidest people on the planet, but those oathkeepers are the chalk in any sane bookie’s ledger.

  14. 14.

    James E Powell

    Right now, CNN is giving an anonymous lunatic free air time to promote anti-vaxx bullshit from downtown Los Angeles. I’m talking like two straight minutes of uninterrupted ranting, no context, no pushback, just glorification of assholes telling lies.

  15. 15.

    dr. bloor

    @James E Powell: CNN is the Diane Rehm of cable teevee. Heart is mostly in the right place, but their fetish for “balance” renders them completely ineffectual and more of a liability than an asset.

  17. 17.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @Yutsano: THANK YOU! You’re the first to ever express that recognition of the pun!

    As a former righty/FReeper, it’s good to be recognized for the journey….

  19. 19.

    Mike in NC

    Aside from Trump and Rudy, this is the guy who most needs to rot in prison until Satan calls him home.

  20. 20.

    dr. bloor

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: 

    Reminds me of how Tim Russert thought the fact that Rush Limbaugh was a fan of his was something to brag about

    Hadn’t heard that before, but not surprising. Tim Russert is his generation’s taliking head version of Ronald Reagan–popular and seen as “wise” despite all evidence to the contrary.

  28. 28.

    Jersey Tomato

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: 

    Tim Russert was a Republican. It’s documented that during the 2004 election he wore a Bush pin on the underside of his lapel, and used to flash it to fellow Republicans and GE executives. Every time I hear a liberal cite Russert as an example of a “tough but fair” journalist, I have to laugh.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @dr. bloor: Russert was by all accounts a very decent guy behind the scenes. Protected Keith Olbermann back when he was about the only prominent TV voice critical of the Bush administration, in a favorite story of mine (now scrubbed from the internet) once reamed out David Gregory (remember him?) for being rude to a waitress. But as the headlines are all about Afghanistan, he was one of a trio at the NBC Borg, along with Brokaw and Tweety, who really pumped the idea of Bush as a manly man war president, who’s only flaw was that he wasn’t their shared surrogate Daddy, John McCain. Brian Williams was the Shemp to those three Bush Stooges.

  33. 33.

    trollhattan

    @Comrade Colette:

    A source is a source, of course of course
    and no one can talk to a source, of course
    that is, of course, unless that source is the famous Roger Stone
    –Lyrics M Haberman

  37. 37.

    Suzanne

    Mr. Suzanne and I went to a comedy show last night. Opening comic was really funny. He said, “I’m on a great drug. It’s called ‘having a new President’.” Then he made a nasty joke about Trump supporters, and she said, “It’s all right, none of them are here. They’re all in jail. Or on ventilators.”

    I approved.

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Made the mistake of having Williams’ show running in the background this week when he had on (for an inordinately long time, to plug his book) Andrew Sullivan, over whom Brian fawned like an avid hormonal teenybopper and all but performed an on-air tongue bath. Repeatedly.

    Appetite squelching TV.

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    @debbie:

    Kinda related, Robert Plant and Allison Krauss will be doing a second album. Can. Not. Wait.

    And Allison deserves to be in this list.

  43. 43.

    Quinerly

    The entire Vanity Fair piece is a wild ride. I can’t remember if there was a link here earlier this week or if I latched on to it from somewhere else. Ann Coulter and company, including Drudge….

  44. 44.

    mrmoshpotato

    The Sun – launched into it – will keep that cut-rate Judge Doom safe from COVID-19.

  49. 49.

    Ohio Mom

    @Yutsano:
    Glad you got to hospital in the nick of time.

    Did anyone ever figure out why you sprung that leak? Would be nice to know how to prevent another one.

  51. 51.

    Quinerly

    @Suzanne: Josh Ritter… I swoon..

    Huge groupie here. Seen him 3 times. Twice here in St. Louis. Puts on a great show. Got turned on to him  thru a Terry Gross interview 15 years ago. “Kathleen” is his best, imo. 

    “Snow is Gone” close second.

    I used to think a bit Dylanesque. But I have backed off of giving him that crown b/c of some of his newer stuff.

    He’s a published author, though. Oberlin grad. ?

  55. 55.

    Quinerly

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Don’t know about your binder but you mentioned Jim Croce. Check out his and Ingrid’s kid… AJ Croce. Fabulous musician. Very underappreciated (although, beloved in Europe). Jim died when AJ was just a baby. He’s based out of Nashville now and was touring doing his dad’s music. His young wife died a couple, three years ago. Tragic story. He’s been doing concerts on line from his house in Nashville during Covid. Lots of talking thru stuff.

    BUT … He ALSO has some great stuff of his own that never caught on here in the states. Check out his first album from early 1990’s (and the linear notes who played with him?) And the next two albums after that. There’s a great video of him from a few years back with just his Steinway… “Texas Ruby.”

  56. 56.

    Bill Arnold

    Roger Stone refuses to be vaccinated for the coronavirus, paranoid about unknown side effects and claiming “the swine flu epidemic we had under Obama” caused more deaths than COVID-19.

    LOL. If he’s not lying about not being vaccinated[1] (and thus less likely to be playing with the swine flue line), then we broke Me. Roger Stone’s mind; it did not survive the increasingly-concentrated pickling juice in the RW disinformation cesspool. (It’s pickled many others.)
    (Yeah, he has been out there for years (e.g. the claim of an assassination attempt by exotic poisoning), but not entirely broken. I loathe Mr. RS. Reasons.)

    [1] Watch for him appearing (or having appeared), or not, in any venue where proof of vaccination is required. (He’s arrogant enough to fuck up that way. He’s pretty quick for somebody his chronological age; his tell on video when he fucks up is looking down for 100-200 milliseconds or so. IMO. )

  61. 61.

    Another Scott

    @Yutsano: Thanks for filling us in.  Glad the Bar’s Leaks did the trick!  ;-)

    Seriously, best of luck going forward!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  64. 64.

    OldDave

    On the song list – some of Mark Knopfler’s post Straits work – Notting Hillbillies, his album with Emmylou Harris – because I noticed a bit of a country tilt to the mentions.  Traveling WIlburys.

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    @dmsilev:

    Yes, and of course there’s no chance at all that Stone is throwing that out there as another piece of chaff to sow deceit and confusion. With someone like him, you doubt everything he says, not just the things you don’t like.

  66. 66.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @OldDave:

    his album with Emmylou Harris

    Love that album, sorry I missed that tour

    all the people I want to see live have said or probably will soon say “Farewell”

  68. 68.

    Chief Oshkosh

    Squeeze ’em, fry ’em. Move to the next ones. Rinse. Repeat. It’s the only way to be sure.

  69. 69.

    Another Scott

    Evergreen, … (Click the image.)

    We are all in this together. Don't be a #maskhole. pic.twitter.com/uIpJA5Yp2o

    — Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) August 14, 2021

    Republicans insist we need to spend trillions more and spend another 20 years at war because of the 3,000 Americans lost on 9/11. But after more than 600,000 Americans dead from Covid-19, they wont even ask their voters to put a cloth on their face or take a shot.

    — LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) August 15, 2021

    Yup.

    It’s not about logic. It’s tribalism. But tribalism will be the death of us all if we don’t resist it. Forward!!

    (both via LOLGOP)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  70. 70.

    Quinerly

    @OldDave: Traveling Wilburys.

    Distilled excellence. Perfection. Both albums.

    Plus perfect road tripping music.

    Speaking of traveling music.. Don’t hate me but I love Poco and Marshall Tucker Band when driving long distances.

  71. 71.

    James E Powell

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    legend has it the whole Tweety thing started with one of his own staff

    Damn, I hope it’s true.

    Back when I was a 16 year old busboy/dishwasher at a regional chain restaurant, I started calling our district manager Dagwood because he looked just like him. Within weeks, the entire chain was calling him that. Thank god he never found out while I was working there.

  74. 74.

    Steeplejack

    @Steeplejack:

    The Youngbloods (Jesse ColinYoung), “Sunlight.”

    You (Comte) probably know that a lot of these songs have “explanatory” YouTube videos with chords, instructions, etc.

    Well, that concludes my mini-set from the early ’70s, when I was heavily into wrangling with my guitar.

  80. 80.

    Ruckus

    @trollhattan:

    Lying. In Roger’s life it’s at the same or higher level than breathing.

    And he does it with the same regularity and natural tendency.

    It’s autonomic with him.

  81. 81.

    trollhattan

    @Ruckus:

    Can Roger Stone not lie? A conundrum worthy of a Spock and Kirk treatment.
    “I always lie.” {Roger Stonebot emits smoke from ears, falls to stage.}

  82. 82.

    OldDave

    @Quinerly: Don’t hate me but I love Poco

    Love Poco.  Used to keep a cassette tape in the car for longer trips.  Also “Crazy Eyes” via a good pair of headphones.

  83. 83.

    karen marie

    @dr. bloor: I was so happy when she retired – or died – whatever took her off the radio. I listen to NPR in the car. Any trip that occurred during her show made for a very quiet ride – with the radio off.

  84. 84.

    Steeplejack

    @James E Powell:

    Democratic Underground:

    During campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris Matthews. In the first three or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with “the Screamer” sort of leading. Then one of Matthews’s own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him “Tweety” because of the Clairol shade of hair coloring he favored. This was immediately declared the winner.

  85. 85.

    RaflW

    Stone is a complete creep, and not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. And of course anything he says, including about Haberman is just as likely disinfo as not, but golly “Maggie Haberman is one of my oldest and best friends” isn’t really something she would want said about her, by him, I’d think.

  87. 87.

    Steeplejack

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That sounds a bit like gilding the lily. I didn’t see that on my (brief) Google dive. Everybody immediately gets “bright yellow hair” and “Tweety.” Score. Assuming or expecting that everybody gets all that extra back-story is very implausible to me.

    Christ, look at the way commenters here went wild embellishing “Wilmer.” As you, of all people, should know.

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