Man claiming to have bomb near U.S. Capitol is in custody after standoff, police say https://t.co/GjBS6bBzsA
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 19, 2021
In DC, it would seem, domestic terrorism has become what storrowing is in Boston — a mild, possibly risible inconvenience, suitable for a quickie filler on the local news if nothing more urgent comes up. Dude had issues — what better way to attract attention?
U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger says "Floyd Roy Rosenberry from Grover, NC was taken into custody without incident…he got out of the vehicle and surrendered…we don't know if there are any explosives in the vehicle. It's still an active scene." https://t.co/84EE5sZyHH pic.twitter.com/Kacz1Rjqyq
— CSPAN (@cspan) August 19, 2021
He was captured alive.
This is the whole tweet.
— Bakari Sellers (@Bakari_Sellers) August 19, 2021
Speaking of would-be terrorists, Rep. Brooks may not belong in prison, but he certainly doesn’t belong in Congress:
The call is coming from inside the literal House https://t.co/qXrPEEZ0Rk
— Amarnath Amarasingam (@AmarAmarasingam) August 19, 2021
Mo just identifies closely with the car bomb-curious constituency. https://t.co/i8f7pg4fPZ
— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) August 19, 2021
.?@RepMoBrooks? (R-AL) under fire for statements appearing to be in support of Capitol Hill bomb threat suspect https://t.co/VJgCssb7HL
— Michael King (@mhking) August 20, 2021
… Republicans, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), have largely remained silent about Brooks’s tweet. Only Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), who has been an outspoken critic of Trump and has for months urged his party — in vain — to distance itself from the former president, blasted Brooks’s statement as “evil.”
“The GOP has a decision to make,” Kinzinger tweeted. “Are we going to be the party that keeps stoking sympathy for domestic terrorists and pushes out truth, or finally take a stand for truth. I’ve made my decision, so has Mo. Now it’s up to GOP conference leadership to make theirs.”
Representatives for McCarthy did not immediately respond to requests for comment. In a statement Friday, Brooks called the allegations “bunk.”…
Brooks is running for the U.S. Senate, seeking to replace Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), who is retiring.
dr. bloor
“Floyd Roy.”
Found your problem here, ma’am.
smith
@dr. bloor: I thought the same. It could hardly be more predictable. Have the writers lost the will to live?
sab
I cannot believe I am saying this, but if they killed a couple of these white guys, and then withheld their names to the press, it would probably all go away. “Plea for attention fails. Pleader dead.”
trollhattan
“They call me Deacon Blues.”
Fuck you and your Crimson-Tide loving ass, “senator.”
Steeplejack
Florida Man!
Another Scott
Speaking of combatting terrorists, this seems to be important.
(This is about the nearly-complete Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and others.)
(Emphasis added.)
[ conspiracy ] See, Afghanistan was all about the pipeline just like Q said!!11 [ /conspiracy ]
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@smith:
No. They’re just staying true to the characters of the Trump-humping fascist trash.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack: Surprised it wasn’t a giant bronze dong. On second thought….
We need to do something about these rogue sheriffs. Right after we fix Republicans, I guess.
dr. bloor
@trollhattan: I’d hope he’s planning on going to Trump’s rally in Alabama next week, but you know he’s had his sorry hypocritical ass vaccinated.
SpaceUnit
Alabama GOP’s official motto:
Stupid Today,
Stupid Tomorrow,
Stupid For-evah!!
different-church-lady
“And that decision is to go right on being a member of the party that stokes sympathy for domestic terrorist and pushes out the truth.”
trollhattan
@dr. bloor:
I think of that as “doing the Cain.” Do the Cain, Mo!
Ken
Speaking of Alabama, I see that it’s shifted back into the bruise-red “Severe” category on covidactnow.org, as has Arkansas. Louisiana, Mississippi, and Florida remain in the category — I think we’re coming up on four weeks for Louisiana and Florida. Still, priorities.
zhena gogolia
Yuck, we’re going to have a hurricane, it looks like.
cain
@trollhattan:
No one is doing nuthin to me! NUTHIN!
mrmoshpotato
@Steeplejack: LOL! These kinds of stories crack me up. The ridiculousness of it all…
dr. bloor
@mrmoshpotato: This is what 75K is going to get him, although one suspects he’ll be delighted with the results.
Major Major Major Major
Shocked, gambling, etc.
Man, what a week! Lots of work and I finished a short story too. Glad that’s over. Looking forward to a chill weekend.
smith
OT — some good news: It looks like there were more than 1M covid shots today, the second day in a row.
Bill Arnold
In tech news, via DPRK News:
Benw
@zhena gogolia: yup. We just got the hurricane and severe flooding emergency alerts this afternoon. Freaked one of my kids right out!
dr. bloor
@zhena gogolia: Long gas lines and empty paper towel pallets at BJ’s this afternoon. Did Trump actually persuade folks that paper towels are some sort of useful commodity in a hurricane?
Steeplejack
Speaking of domestic terrorism . . .
Reuters:
Twitter weighs in with some good threads:
Southpaw (minimizing links for FYWP):
Maha:
smith
More good news: it looks like FDA will fully approve Pfizer vax as early as Monday.
zhena gogolia
@Benw:
Where are you?
zhena gogolia
@dr. bloor: It’s weird what people fixate on. We have plenty of eggs, bread, and TP right now. Will that keep a tree from falling on the house?
Major Major Major Major
@smith: seems like Biden has been leaning on them pretty hard (see also this booster shot strong-arming)… probably for the best
VeniceRiley
Filthy mouthed Rahm is Amb. Japan. Chine gets the pro … Burns.
Cacti
I knew it was a Trumper yesterday the moment I saw that:
1. Police were negotiating with him, and
2. He was threatening to blow up a library
Betcha 5 bucks he called it the Liberry of Congress.
Kathleen
Bringing topic up from downstairs about ABC’s transcript that featured Joe Biden’t stuttering during interview with George StuffItUpYourAss because I’m so spitting angry. Here’s a link to the Twitter thread with examples from the transcript (like wha wha what):
https://twitter.com/edabny62/status/1428834774722957321
And if you go to the @ABC page you will more outrageous examples.
Kay
I sometimes think about how they didn’t find the Jan 6 pipe bomber.
NotMax
Open Thread?
Sling this week rolled out their revamped GUI.
Overthought and cumbersome the first two descriptions which came to mind. Bells and whistles are fine for New Year’s celebrations, not so much for freaking simply finding something to watch.
NotMax-o-meter rating: C+.
trollhattan
@Cacti:
I see you’ve met my in-laws.
Kay
@Kathleen:
Is that new just for him? They’re so petty.
Kathleen
@Kay: I’m thinking it is. Have you ever seen that in a transcript? Even people who don’t stutter can hem and haw and uh but I never see that. I’m so damned angry.
Steeplejack
@Kay:
I think it’s a change. As I said in the earlier thread, usually they edit out people’s uh‘s and ah‘s—and also clean up their grammar a tiny bit if there’s something really confusing.
Former newspaper reporter here. I would never have transcribed an interviewee’s stuttering unless it was essential to the story.
Eunicecycle
@Kathleen: Me too! My granddaughter stutters and I see how frustrating it is for her. Even though she’s only 4, she is getting speech therapy through the public schools. It is heartening to me to see Joe Biden overcoming his stutter to become the President! But then I see people make fun of him and see ridiculous stunts like this.
Benw
@zhena gogolia: long island. Hurricane’s supposed to pass the eastern tip tomorrow.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: The Reuters headline and opening grafs are too credulous even considering the rest of their own story:
But that obviously doesn’t count.
(groucho-roll-eyes.gif)
The “MAGA Civil War January 6, 2021” sweatshirts were just a coincidence, also too. These people were just out for a stroll.
(sigh)
The unidentified RWNJ law enforcement types who try to pre-emptively spin the news are a threat to us all.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kathleen
@Eunicecycle: I am just furious. It’s so unnecessary and cruel. I hope your granddaughter never has to endure this type of cruelty. These people are monsters.
Bex
@trollhattan: Put Grady Judd from Polk County on your list.
piratedan
@Steeplejack: that’s some Darth Vader killed Annikin Skywalker level of a “certain POV” action going on there with Reuters and the FBI methinks when it comes to describe what took place..
The part that I find worrisome… is that someone chose to represent “their story” this way and that it likely passed thru an editor, who also said that this should be published and they wonder why people decry the state of journalism… just as much bad faith in the presentation of the information here as we get from the GOP arguing any damn position about every damn thing…
waiting for the inevitable mistrial due to a lack of an Oxford comma that’s sure to follow….
VeniceRiley
There was a story yesterday or the day before about a 1/6er about to be sentenced that afternoon in a plea deal and, luckily, amateur sleuths scoured video until they found him … punching an officer of the Cap Police. They sent it to the judge and prosecutors. Hope those prosecutors were suitably embarrassed when the judge delayed the sentencing. The traitor’s lawyer was portraying him as rather a bystander.
Do better, DOJ and FBI, or total keyboard warriors will make fools of you.
Subsole
@Steeplejack:
This.
They routinely cleaned up trump’s gubberish.
This is the savvy kidz klub getting pissy.
topclimber
@Steeplejack: Ah, but it is essential. Biden is stuttering because he is under stress with the Afghanistan thing–he even said there were 300 troops in the Afghan army at his press conference instead of 300K!
Of course, he might have been talking about how many you could actually count on in a fight.
Be that as it may, the stuttering proves it that he is in over his aging head. Just because what he says makes sense, stutter or not, is no reason not to undercut him. After all, the first thing that goes with senility is phonetic fluency…kinda.
Subsole
@piratedan:
Do they wonder, though?
I don’t see behavior consistent with wonder.
I see the behavior of overpaid, underqualified folks who have decided that liberals should be neither seen nor heard, and they are by god gonna put us back where they think we belong.
different-church-lady
@Steeplejack: So, it was the result of a disorganized plot to overturn the presidential election result?
Van Buren
@Benw: I have been assured by PSEGLI that they are ready, so there’s nothing to worry about!
debbie
@dr. bloor:
I can’t keep track of all these bombers. Is this the one that whined he needed his mind medicine, or was that a different bomber?
piratedan
@Subsole: I often think the same thing…. I do wonder about the intelligence level and commitment that we place in people… you look at the reporting that took place during the scandal with TFG pressuring Ukraine to dummy up an investigation that was about to become HRC e-mails 2, (Ukrainian Boogaloo) regarding Hunter Biden cast as the maguffin when certain people blew up their fucking narrative.
We watch twitter threads unroll with documents that show people doing certain illegal shit, on paper, signed by the perpetrators themselves; their own testimony showing that they have more than one paymaster and a history of perfidy and bad faith and outrageous lying and these guys keep trying to 1984 for us into disbelieving what our eyes see and minds understand.
I’m tired of the bad faith, I’m tired of the gross misrepresentation and I’m tired of narratives coming before proof/truth.
Steeplejack
@different-church-lady:
Crucial difference!
dmsilev
@smith: Let 1000 mandates blossom!
Subsole
@piratedan:
Best description I saw:
These people grew up telling us they were gonna be the next Woodward and Bernstein. Then, when confronted with a regime 100 times more corrupt than Nixon and Reagan combined, they didn’t report it as such: they spoiler-tagged it.
different-church-lady
@Steeplejack:
Somewhere recently I read there’s a term for this kind of thing: the despot doesn’t actually come right out and say “Kill all the Eskimos,” but everyone understands that’s what he’s saying and a whole lot of Eskimos wind up dead. Can’t remember if it was LGM (in one of their more helpful moments as of late) or perhaps our own Adam Silverman?
Subsole
@different-church-lady:
The Radio des Milles Collines school of broadcast journalism…
Benw
@Van Buren: Lol! If PSEGLI says they’re ready, we’re doomed!
Delk
If he was Floyd Rose he could have dive bombed.
try the veal etc.
zhena gogolia
@Benw: Eversource here in CT is already telling us we’re doomed. Should I take that as good news?
gene108
Excellent summary from Kurt Eichenwald on decisions the US made over the last 1 year in Afghanistan. Read the whole thing
https://mobile.twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1428850557582729217
FlyingToaster
@different-church-lady: You mean Henry II “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” in re Thomas a Becket?
This shit ain’t new…
Anoniminous
@zhena gogolia:
Welcome to the new normal
burnspbesq
If Mo Brooks wants to experience “dictatorial socialism” up close and personal, I will gladly buy him a one-way ticket to Minsk or Yangon, his choice.
Ksmiami
@Subsole: Their heads will look good on pikes. We can show them how tough liberals can be…
different-church-lady
@Ksmiami: Are you kidding? We’re liberals: the whole thing will come to a grinding halt while we argue about whether the word pike is gendered.
Another Scott
@gene108: Kurt is good, but I think he’s wrong here. Getting out was the right thing to do. Delaying the withdrawal because the Taliban wasn’t keeping to the terms just means that we would be there indefinitely. What incentive did the Taliban have not to do what they wanted to foreigners who were fighting them and not leaving? They were winning.
Of course it was a bad deal. Of course TFG was incompetent and malicious. We still needed to get out.
Cheers,
Scott.
ET
@Cacti: Actually my understanding is that he thought there were 2 Capitols and he was just at one of them.
When will feds and police start profiling white men. Never is supposed since many of them are white and/or come from the same poison tree.
Uncle Omar
If Floyd Roy had been of African descent a sniper would have picked him off before the negotiations could even be contemplated. Just sayin’.
Benw
@zhena gogolia: double secret doomed!
gene108
@Another Scott:
My take on Kurt’s point is that by remaining at the same troop levels supporting the ANA, in 2020, when the Taliban violated the agreement, we may have been able to reach a political settlement, rather than a total collapse.
With only 2500 troops in Afghanistan, there’s not a lot of options on the table, even if we set the remaining draw down on status goals and not a timeline.
Trump did not leave Biden with any good options.
The ANA and police forces did fight prior to the current collapse. Their dead are about on par or a bit higher than U.S. troop losses in Vietnam. From what I have read, a few months ago, about police forces trying to secure provincial capitals, the security forces were willing to fight, if they got support and needed reinforcements. In many places, the Taliban concentrated their forces to numerically overwhelm local security forces, before moving on to the next target and leaving a smaller force behind.
Some police forces held out as long as possible, but surrendered as reinforcements did not come, and they ran out of ammo. The Afghan government could not coordinate how to manage effective counterattacks in the spring, if they actually tried.
Kayla Rudbek
@different-church-lady: “will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” was my initial thought.
Lyrebird
@Uncle Omar:
Agreed.
Grateful Anne Laurie front paged the Bakari Sellers response.
Sad and true.
Kayla Rudbek
@Uncle Omar: yeah, I knew that he was white when I heard that he was still alive, as I said to Mr, Rudbek.
Another Scott
(This is the Uber and Lyft “gig worker” ballot initiative in California.)
(via nycsouthpaw)
Cheers,
Scott.
Nutmeg again
Can-openers on Storrow (what we always called them) are just folks who don’t understand low bridges. They aren’t actively trying to wreck American democracy, or kill people because they voted (one time?) and didn’t get the result they wanted. So, yes, both stupid. But one malicious, and one really not.
Shana
There’s a bridge in Davenport IA across the Mississippi from my home town that’s relatively low and frequently traps trucks like the one in Boston. I remember a particular accident when I was in high school with a truck full of Milky Way and Snickers bars that got “storrowed” and all the candy bars ended up strewn over the street. They call it the “truck eating bridge” there.
Mary G
@Another Scott: Hooray! Uber, Instacart, DoorDash, and others spent a shitload of money to get that passed, but it’s only a Superior court, which despite its name is the bottom rung of the ladder. The appeal will probably be filed Monday at 9 am sharp. Still, more legal fees ahead, and from this it looks like their lawyers aren’t the sharpest Crayons in the box.
raven
@Shana: The Quad Cities!
Gin & Tonic
@Shana: The canonical low bridge.
Scout211
@Another Scott: more details
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article253647838.html
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Nutmeg again:
@Shana: A low bridge will be part of the OTR I just submitted.
Dan B
@dr. bloor: The Alabama town (Cullman?) where TFG is having his rally has proclaimed an emergency. I believe there are no ICU beds left in the state. The only way they open up is if a patient dies.
Fair Economist
@Another Scott: Wasn’t Prop 22 already litigated to the CA Supreme Court? I have no idea, I just expect it already would have been.
VeniceRiley
Meanwhile, Olivia Troye is calling bullshit and I am here for it. She was on Maddow hill ring this too.
https://twitter.com/oliviatroye/status/1428740865665679361?s=21
The SIV. VISA issue is entirely the fault of Steven Miller and Trumps goon squad
rikyrah
A co-worker had been out of our office on assignment for the last 10 weeks. He stopped by to catch up.
Him: “Do you go out?”
Me: ” Outside of to and from work? And doctor’s appointments? No. ”
Him:.” The grocery store?”
Me: ” Delivery”
He went on to express relief, because he thinks people have gone crazy. He told me of all the gatherings people have invited him too, and he has been, nope…not now.
He was like…all these folks talking about how they just got back from Florida and Texas, and do I want to come over ..he was like HELL NO.
His fiance is a nurse…and, he’s like, the stories that she tells him..about people his age (mid 30’s) and younger…
We just shook our heads.
We will travel in 2022.?
MisterForkbeard
@Kay: They usually cleaned up the Trump transcripts considerably. And tried to organize them into making some kind of sense, injecting their own thoughts on what Trump meant to say.
I’m not kidding. That they used to protect Trump and are now changing the policy to make Biden look bad should tell you a lot.
BruceJ
Look, White terrorists can blow up entire city blocks with truck bombs without the word “terrorist” being appplied; it’s all ‘disturbed individual‘ this and ‘mental health issues‘ that.
Basically the rule is “White folks” cannot possibly be terrorists. TO THIS DAY the Klan is called ‘a hate group’ instead of a terrorist organization that conducted bombings, murders and lynchings by the thousands.
Another Scott
@Fair Economist: This seems to be the first court consideration. But IANAL.
Here’s the 12 page ruling (on DocumentCloud).
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
Another Scott
@MisterForkbeard: It was that way from the beginning. IIRC, and I think I do, the transcripts of TFG’s campaign announcement speech (after the escalator ride) on places like Fox didn’t include the “Mexican rapists” lines).
Cheers,
Scott.
BruceJ
@rikyrah: Just today we got an invite from the Dean of the college where I work, inviting us to the new academic year social on September 6th, to be held in a restaurant.
This is a health sciences college.
In a county where, as of Wednesday, 348 of 356 total ICU beds were filled and we had yet another doubling of hospitalizations…
Fortunately I am not in that strata of employees expected to attend, so I don’t have to go.
prostratedragon
@NotMax: I’m finding similar objections to recent upgrades of a few GUIs I use, which once did their simple tasks simply and effectively. Must be the new thing this year.
Dan B
@dmsilev: First I read 1000 manatees blossoming – you know, Floriduh Man-atees.
Then I thought that “1000 mandates” was somehow adjacent to ‘OnlyFans’ or Grindr. Had to look up what you were responding to. I think I got it on the third attempt.
Ha!
Another Scott
Good, good. If you’re part of a team, you fight for the team especially when it matters. Actions have consequences.
(via LOLGOP)
Cheers,
Scott.
prostratedragon
@Kathleen: What are they, 8-year-olds or something? I had a couple of schoolmates with stutters, and that shit had pretty much stopped even on the playground by 3rd or 4th grade.
Shalimar
@Steeplejack: There were 2 statues. He also commisioned a statue of the lieutenant who led the canine unit, along with his dog. The $75k was for both statues. The former sheriff has agreed to pay for his statue but not the one of man and dog.
Escambia county is the heart of Matt Gaetz’s district, because of course it is.
David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch
They probably took him to Burger King
Steeplejack
@Shalimar:
Yes, I read the story and saw the pictures.
mrmoshpotato
OT
Each little snail here
Know how to wail here
That’s why it’s hotter
Under the water
Ya we in luck here
Down in the muck here
Under the sea
phdesmond
@Mary G:
very significant case. the tax implications are big.
Mary G
@Fair Economist: It just passed last November, so I don’t think it’s had time to work all the way through. Somebody may have asked for an injunction. I don’t remember and am too tired to look it up.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Uh huh ?
Feckless
Yes there was a republican terrorist in the capital claiming to have a bomb yesterday but we should spend a couple trillion dollars more to make sure that Afghanistan never ever harbors a terrorist again because it’s on the other side of the world versus DC which is you know here.
Change the name back to the department of war because it sure isn’t defending anybody.
J R in WV
@zhena gogolia:
According to our personal experience in a house with all the regular emergency supplies in the basement — NOPE!
No amount of paper product, bread, eggs, milk, will hinder the tree aimed at your roof. So I dunno why people hoard these simple items.
ETA> Well, I guess on second thought a warehouse-sized pile of paper products in the perfect spot might slow the impact of the tree hitting the house… but no one sane would acquire that much paper!
J R in WV
OK, two bronze statues for $75K — wonder how much the actual artiste got? OR was it a 3-D printer mold kinda gig?
Asked Wife if she wants a bronze statue, both of us, 3 dogs 2 cats down by the county road, with lights and a stereo playing Johnny Cash 24/7 !!
I can’t sell it to her, tho. Nope she says! No imagination… we could be famous!! Atlas Obscura here we come… nope!
Procopius
@topclimber:
Or he might have been talking about how many were actually getting paid and fed. We’ve been getting reports for 20 years that many were “ghost” soldiers, just names on the company rolls so the commanders could collect their pay and rations. These reports have been coming out every. damned. year from SIGAR. No one was ever interested enough to make a fuss until now. Pepe Escobar reports in the Asia Times that the soldiers who did exist had not received their salary for months, so the Taliban just paid them not to fight.
Procopius
@Another Scott: Damn, that’s the best news I’ve had in months.