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You are here: Home / Music / PopCult Open Thread: Montero Lamar Hill Is A Genius

PopCult Open Thread: Montero Lamar Hill Is A Genius

by Anne Laurie|  September 2, 20218:19 pm| 127 Comments

This post is in: Music, Open Threads, Popular Culture

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Lil Nas X is officially expecting a “baby” — due Sept. 17. Tap the link for the exclusive “scoop” and his over-the-top announcement photos! https://t.co/mAXuinAMZi @LilNasX pic.twitter.com/3G3POjgh5a

— People (@people) September 2, 2021

I am not qualified* to judge his musical gifts, but a 22-year-old who can get People magazine to publish his pregnancy-prOn-parody album publicity shots, at this particular historic moment, understands timimg.

*Not a slur on the genre, I’m just too old & unmusical to understand rap.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    September 2, 2021 at 8:27 pm

    Now that guy should definitely stay away from Texas.

  2. 2.

    prostratedragon

    September 2, 2021 at 8:37 pm

    Musically he’s at least country adjacent or bringing rap and country together, so might have some unexpected fans there. That is a bizarrely funny ad campaign. Artists often refer to a work as their baby, but …

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 8:38 pm

    An O/T O/T:  When will Medium Cool with BG in CHI resume? Do we have a date, or at least a rough idea?

  4. 4.

    trollhattan

    September 2, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    @Baud: Only [checks notes] five weeks so he’s fine.

  5. 5.

    Shakti

    September 2, 2021 at 8:41 pm

    Bless Lil Nas X’s superb trolling/attention bait game.  I’m sure the usual suspects will start frothing at the mouth upon viewing this mpreg baby shower glam shoot. Right after they can stop freaking out about children’s shows.

    He looks good. :-p

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 8:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It should be very soon. But we’re keeping it loose since these are the last weeks of summer.

  7. 7.

    Delk

    September 2, 2021 at 8:45 pm

    He’s trolling Drake. They both have new albums ready to drop. Drake’s album cover is a grid of pregnant women emojis and Nas X tweeted a pic of a grid of pregnant men emojis.

  8. 8.

    aliasofwestgate

    September 2, 2021 at 8:46 pm

    @Shakti:  I’m sure he’s laughing all the way to the bank at the freakouts.  More though, i love that he’s succeeding and having a ball doing so.  He’s been absolutely unapologetic since he was outed and has gone on to roaring good sales too.

  9. 9.

    prostratedragon

    September 2, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    @trollhattan:  D’oh! Forgot about the new dispensation down there. But then it sounds like he’s terminating naturally.

  10. 10.

    prostratedragon

    September 2, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    @Delk:  That makes it even funnier.

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: My understanding is that it will be sometime this month.  Unless the anticipatory excitement over Paris-Roubaix incapacitates BG.  It could happen.

  12. 12.

    Delk

    September 2, 2021 at 8:53 pm

    The NSFW video of his new single:
    Industry Baby

  13. 13.

    Mike in NC

    September 2, 2021 at 8:57 pm

    As Dubya said of the Orange Clown’s horrific inaugural address: “That was some weird shit.”

  14. 14.

    The Lodger

    September 2, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    There’s already a Da Baby. Looks like this one might be an improvement.

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Thanks, WG! I was just curious.

  16. 16.

    different-church-lady

    September 2, 2021 at 9:10 pm

    I’ve never been happier to be old and out of touch.

  17. 17.

    eclare

    September 2, 2021 at 9:11 pm

    He is incredibly talented and an amazing performer. Pushes the edge constantly.

  18. 18.

    Leslie

    September 2, 2021 at 9:13 pm

    I love Lil Nas X.

  19. 19.

    Benw

    September 2, 2021 at 9:16 pm

    Lil Nas X is fucking great.

    Weird music industry tidbit: Old Town Road sampled the banjo not from a bluegrass record but from the Nine Inch Nails track 34 Ghosts IV. Which means that Trent freaking Reznor is a co-writer on the longest-running number one song in Billboard history. Wild

    rollingstone.com/music/music-news/trent-reznor-old-town-road-903889/

  20. 20.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    I love Lil Nas X. I watch his videos – the music isn’t terrible, but the videos are works of art designed to piss off righties, and boy do they lose it. Dreher has had some spectacular meltdowns.

    This comes after the release of the new video by the gay hip-hop artist, which shows him being seduced by Satan in the form of a serpent going down on him. Then Lil Nas X slides down a stripper poll to Hell to give Lucifer a lap dance, and to position himself to be sodomized by the Devil.

    Rolling Stone reports that Lil Nas X means the video as an insult to

    homophobes who accuse gay people of going to hell, with the dethroning of Satan as a means of ‘dismantling the throne of judgment and punishment that has kept many of us from embracing our true selves out of fear.’

    Wow! I did a blockquote inside another blockquote!

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    @Mary G: Wow! I did a blockquote inside another blockquote!

    Don’t get cocky, kid.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 9:21 pm

    Watching Maddow, who points out that the day Roe v. Wade was decided in January 1973, the lead story was the Paris Peace Talks, and then the Roe story was scooped by the breaking news that LBJ had died (*waves to Raven*).

    I must have known that — I was working the board at WUSF-FM when the Johnson news broke — but I had completely forgotten the juxtaposition of those stories until just now.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    September 2, 2021 at 9:21 pm

    @Mary G:

     

    ?

  24. 24.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 9:24 pm

    More evil:

    Remington has subpoenaed the report cards, attendance records, and disciplinary records of kindergarteners and first graders murdered at Sandy Hook t.co/gZ5CzXzcE4— Tim Marchman (@timmarchman) September 2, 2021

    Mom of a beautiful baby girl lost in the shooting:

    This world will break your heart if you let it. Support the families.Goodnight. ?? t.co/0Lm4qYdQss— Nelba Márquez-Greene, LMFT (@Nelba_MG) September 3, 2021

  25. 25.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    @Baud: Nobody likes a show off.

  26. 26.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    @Baud:

    u
    r
    cute

  27. 27.

    Urban Suburbanite

    September 2, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    This isn’t exactly related, but this is a great way to impede the obsessive snitches Texas’ new chickenshit abortion law relies upon (every part of this thing was an exercise in collective cowardice, including the Supreme Court’s non-decision). The more energy invested into stopping people from spamming the system, the less damage these craven apparatchiks can do.

    vice.com/amp/en/article/z3x9ba/tiktok-texas-abortion-law-bot-site-ios-shortcut?__twitter_impression=…

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    @Mary G: It won’t work.  They lost their fucking children.  All this will do is piss them off more.

  29. 29.

    eclare

    September 2, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    @Mary G:  That is unbelievably fucking cruel.

  30. 30.

    Martin

    September 2, 2021 at 9:30 pm

    @Mary G: Remington has subpoenaed the report cards, attendance records, and disciplinary records of kindergarteners and first graders murdered at Sandy Hook t.co/gZ5CzXzcE4— Tim Marchman (@timmarchman) September 2, 2021

    Yeah, *I’m* the one trying to burn the world down.

  31. 31.

    Ken

    September 2, 2021 at 9:30 pm

    In other news, the lawyer for the “QAnon Shaman” says that his client doesn’t want to be known as the “QAnon Shaman” anymore. If either of them figure out how to make that happen, there’s a few million high-schoolers with horrible nicknames who will pay for the secret.

  32. 32.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    @Martin: No one said you were the only one.

  33. 33.

    debbie

    September 2, 2021 at 9:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It was a very busy time.

  34. 34.

    debbie

    September 2, 2021 at 9:37 pm

    @Mary G:

    Good god. They were first graders.

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 9:37 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I was in third grade.

  36. 36.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:38 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I would guess 3 weeks max, but more likely 2.

    We’re going with Sunday nights again, though I have offered BG the option of starting a little later than we did before.  We’ll see what he wants to do.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    @Mary G: Go you!

  38. 38.

    Ken

    September 2, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Careful. HTML-3 plus CSS is Turing-complete, so you might stumble into an infinitely-nested blockquote.

    Just kidding.  Surely the editor and commenting system wouldn’t allow the necessary <style> directives through…

  39. 39.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:39 pm

    @Baud: Show off!

  40. 40.

    Suzanne

    September 2, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    @Mary G: Anything that freaks out Rod Dreher is excellent.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    @Mary G: What right does Remington (whoever the hell that is) have to that information.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: very nice!

  43. 43.

    Martin

    September 2, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    @Urban Suburbanite: I’ll note that if Democrats are successful here, it won’t be without its own damage. Civil courts are already slammed, and this is going to make things a lot worse. A lot of parents trying to resolve custody battles, women will have a harder time getting a protective order (civil court) as civil courts try to unwind all of this.

    This is what I’ve been referring to. This is a kind of civic violence, constraining how civil courts can respond to otherwise important matters (both the TX law and flooding the zone with false claims) simply by overwhelming them. Both actions will add to pain and suffering. Just because we don’t look fully at the ramifications doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

    I don’t oppose the effort – I support it. But I support it knowing the damage it will cause, because there’s really no way to avoid it.

  44. 44.

    Ken

    September 2, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think that’s Remington Arms, the weapons manufacturer. Are the parents suing them for the murders?  That might give them some legal claim on the information, though what they would imagine they could do with it — or how they’re going to handle the public relations nightmare — is beyond me.

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    @Mary G: What the fuuuuuuck?

  46. 46.

    dexwood

    September 2, 2021 at 9:45 pm

    @different-church-lady: I live the truth of this daily.

  47. 47.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:47 pm

    @Mary G: OT, but are you the person who suggested the LEVOIT air purifier?

    I just ordered one.  I think someone suggested the pet filter?  No fires here in IL, so I don’t think I need the chemical filter.

    They had a newer one for $129 (vs. $99) but I went with the older model that was recommended.  The $129 model works with Alexa but since I will never have Alexa or anything similar in my house, I figured the previous model would be better.

    My dad used to grouse about things saying “they new-and-improved it.”

  48. 48.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 2, 2021 at 9:47 pm

    @Ken: They make and sell guns. You think bad PR is something they worry about?

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    @Ken: You have to be right.  Fuck those guys.

    Gee, I bet one of those 6-year-olds probably talked in class once when they weren’t supposed to, so they deserved to be murdered and shredded by bullets.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    @WaterGirl: They don’t.  It is entirely irrelevant to the lawsuit.  No judge should allow it.

  51. 51.

    Urban Suburbanite

    September 2, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    @Martin:

    That’s true. And I don’t know if there’s a way to avoid that. The problem is that I don’t see it stopping – the people behind this have no fucking clue how to actually govern (and I mean the boring as fuck work of actually ensuring things works). That kind of expertise is effectively absent from the Republican party – if it doesn’t involve fucking someone over or keeping their desperate grip on power, they have no clue whatsoever. This is all their only skillset. And that’s a fundamental problem that may not be possible to resolve.

  52. 52.

    eachother

    September 2, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    “Old Town Road” was my Covid-19 2020 morning restoration/respiration song.  Youtube had 1 hour and 10 hour loops of the song.  After a few replays, it always made me feel better.  It is a storied billboard song and pushed the envelope to a better place.

  53. 53.

    Delk

    September 2, 2021 at 9:52 pm

    And this is after Remington took 7 years to gave the Sandy Hook attorneys 40,000 pages of garbage.

  54. 54.

    joel hanes

    September 2, 2021 at 9:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The classics never truly go out of style.

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    @Ken: LOL!  Does Dump also want me to stop calling him the Kremlin’s orange fascist shitstain and a Soviet shitpile mobster conman?

  56. 56.

    Peale

    September 2, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    @Ken: I think they want proof that the kids went to the school and weren’t crisis actors. They’ve hired Alex Jones legal team.

  57. 57.

    Mike in NC

    September 2, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    Five minutes until the new season of “What We Do In The Shadows” comes on (FX).

  58. 58.

    Martin

    September 2, 2021 at 9:59 pm

    @Urban Suburbanite: It’s a fairly common practice of public policy to add or remove friction/cost to activities in order to deter/encourage behavior.

    I would posit that the GOP knows exactly what they’re doing. They’re adding financial risk to virtually everything in order to shape behavior. And they’re fine fucking up civil courts in the process. And they know we’ll have to do more harm in order to fight them, and they’re okay with that. It’s just the cost of action. But own the cost. Don’t pretend it’s not happening.

  59. 59.

    phdesmond

    September 2, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    @Urban Suburbanite:

    i wish the hackers success.

  60. 60.

    brendancalling

    September 2, 2021 at 10:02 pm

    The first time I heard LNX was when Tyler Mahon Coe—the estranged son of country singer David Allen Coe who hosts the truly indispensable podcast “Cocaine and Rhinestones”, a history of 20th century country music—tweeted that “Old Town Road” was more country than any of pop-country star Jason Aldean’s music, particularly “Dirt Road Anthem.” At the time LNX had been kicked off the country charts as “not country” and there was a big to-do.

    Anyway, I played the two songs (neither of which I’d heard before) on, back to back. Sure enough, LNX was more country. Banjos deep in the mix, I think a steel (neither of which were on Aldean’s song), and both of them rapping. Basically it’s country interpreted through hip hop—which I’ve heard is a thing among some younger Black folks down south since there IS so much crossover in terms of beats and production.

    On a side note: Billy Ray Cyrus, who was also originally panned by the country music industry, stepped up after LNX got booted fro the charts, and they did a new version together w/BRC adding a verse. Which meant it HAD to be on the country charts after that. Fantastic thumb to the nose!

  61. 61.

    brendancalling

    September 2, 2021 at 10:06 pm

    @Mary G: YOUR HONOR THE RECORD WILL SHOW THAT BILLY PUT GUM IN SALLY’S HAIR—SO HOW INNOCENT WAS HE, REALLY??

     

    these people make me sick.

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    Pop culture?

    Whether it turns out to be a piece o’ formulaic crap peppered with splodey stuff or not is irrelevant, it’s got SuperUltraMegaHit written all over it regardless.

    (Personally will be giving it a hard pass.)

  63. 63.

    Scout211

    September 2, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I posted that I had purchased the Levoit and was happy with it and Mary G posted that she had purchased one last year and was still happy with hers.

    No smart home here, either.  My internet isn’t stable or fast enough, even if I could figure out the smartness part. LOL

  64. 64.

    dexwood

    September 2, 2021 at 10:12 pm

    @WaterGirl: Bought one for the living room more than a year ago. Happy with it. Put one in the bedroom a few months ago.

  65. 65.

    Peale

    September 2, 2021 at 10:13 pm

    I’m thinking that the Lil Nas X photos would be banned from Chinese media as of today. Lordy, they are not pleased with what the youth are into these days.

  66. 66.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 10:18 pm

    @WaterGirl: Ditto about Alexa.  I have the $99 one.

  67. 67.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 2, 2021 at 10:27 pm

    @Benw: ​ 
    That’s a helluva data point.

  68. 68.

    Martin

    September 2, 2021 at 10:30 pm

    Speaking of terrible people.

    Police on-scene at Vail elementary school after group threatens to zip-tie principal over COVID-19 protocols

  69. 69.

    Urban Suburbanite

    September 2, 2021 at 10:31 pm

    @Martin:

    For sure. And my point about the GOP (and I’m including McConnell here. He and Pelosi are historically important Congressional leaders, but for very different reasons) is that they’re good at those two things, but that’s it.

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 10:33 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Y’all hush.

  71. 71.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 10:41 pm

    Louie Gohmert or Ted Cruz?

    Gonna be lit when every Texas Republican officeholder gets sued in some obscure county for procuring an abortion, given that the claimant is insulated from assessments of attorney's fees or costs.— Sean T at RCP (@SeanTrende) September 2, 2021

  72. 72.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 2, 2021 at 10:43 pm

    @Martin: ​ 
    I just watched that video.

  73. 73.

    opiejeanne

    September 2, 2021 at 10:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I was 12.

  74. 74.

    dm

    September 2, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    @NotMax: I’m kinda pissed that they use the title Red Notice, unless it accidentally boosts sales of Bill Browder’s book about Sergei Magnitsky.

    ….Also, I hope they didn’t use all the jokes in the trailer.

  75. 75.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 10:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:  So Remington has subpoenaed the records, but the families can challenge that with a judge, who should tell Remington to fuck off?  In legal terms, of course.

  76. 76.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2021 at 10:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: ?

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 10:50 pm

    @dexwood: Did you get the $99 model or the $129 model?

    Do you know?

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 10:51 pm

    @Mary G: Oh, good.  thank you

  79. 79.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2021 at 10:52 pm

    @WaterGirl: Who’s their lawyer – Ghouliani?  Because wow!  How incredibly ghoulish!

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 10:54 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Un-fucking-believable.

    Don’t any of these people have children who can tell them what ghouls they are?  And that they are ashamed to have these people as parents???

  81. 81.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2021 at 10:56 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    Sigh. So was I, once.

  82. 82.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 2, 2021 at 11:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: Yeah.  Really anyone in their lives that would just glare at them when told “We filed a subpoena for the school records of dead children.”

  83. 83.

    dexwood

    September 2, 2021 at 11:03 pm

    @WaterGirl:  99

  84. 84.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2021 at 11:03 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Remington lawyers: “I don’t make the decisions; I just do as I’m told by my client”

    Remington execs: “I don’t decide these things; I’m just following the advice of our lawyers”

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 11:07 pm

    @dexwood: Okay, good.  Sounds like you all got the $99 model, I can go to sleep now, fairly confident that i made the better choice.

    I always want the latest and greatest.  Well, usually.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: They should have shown photos on TV of the tiny bodies shredded with bullets.  Let’s see who could have not cared about little children being murdered, then.

    Not that I want to see anything that gruesome, but dammit, some reality might change the equation.

    Look what a difference the George Floyd video made.  You can’t unsee something once you’ve seen it.  I thought Trayvon Martin opened my eyes, but that was just the beginning.

  87. 87.

    Mary G

    September 2, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: The $129 is two decibels less than the $99, so a skosh quieter. I don’t mind, but there is a whirring noise I quickly got used to.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 11:13 pm

    @Mary G: I had noticed that, and I am really sensitive to sound.  But it looked like they had changed the controls between the two models, and since you guys all liked yours, I figured they had probably taken away some feature that everyone had liked.

    Restaurants are always taking the one thing off their menu that I loved.

  89. 89.

    Fair Economist

    September 2, 2021 at 11:18 pm

    @WaterGirl: At least one of the parents had an open casket funeral to try to force the media to show pics of the horrors of gun ownership.

    Media still refused.

  90. 90.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    September 2, 2021 at 11:18 pm

    @Benw: up there with joe cocker’s credit on “california love”

  91. 91.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    September 2, 2021 at 11:20 pm

    @Mary G: yo dawg i heard you like blockquotes so we put blockquotes in your blockquotes so you can blockquote when you blockquote

  92. 92.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    September 2, 2021 at 11:21 pm

    @Baud: defense presents xzibit no. 69

  93. 93.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    September 2, 2021 at 11:22 pm

    @Mary G: how do the attendance records & report cards exist if the kids were crisis actors?

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2021 at 11:24 pm

    @WaterGirl: More or less, yes.

  95. 95.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2021 at 11:24 pm

    @MontyTheClipArtMongoose: The conspiracy goes all the way up to the superintendent’s office!!!!! dun-DUNH!

    But seriously, I don’t think it’s about somehow proving the poor kids were crisis actors.  It’s about shocking, horrifying, triggering, and otherwise (ahem) “persuading” the parents to drop out of the lawsuit.  It’s litigation as a weapon of terror.

  96. 96.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 11:25 pm

    @Fair Economist: Now that you say that, I do remember that they did that. I am ready to nuke most of the media into orbit.

  97. 97.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    @Chetan Murthy:

    It’s litigation as a weapon of terror.

    Just like TX is now.

  98. 98.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 2, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    @WaterGirl: Indeed, WG.  Indeed.  And it’s working.

  99. 99.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    September 2, 2021 at 11:27 pm

    @Martin: will the principal be held pending showtrial at lauren boebert’s bar n’ grille

  100. 100.

    prostratedragon

    September 2, 2021 at 11:37 pm

    @Mary G:
    More evil
    Unspeakable.

    Elsewhere in the Inferno queue, NY Review of Books has sprung a 2018 article about the origins of the Republican anti-abortion movement from behind the paywall. It’s a review of the documentary Reversing Roe:

    “How Republicans Became Anti-Choice,” by Sue Halpern

    Reversing Roe does an admirable job of teasing apart how the Republican Party used control of women’s bodies as political capital to shift the balance of power their way. We watch politicians like George H.W. Bush and Reagan disavow their earlier pro-choice positions during their presidential campaigns, and organizations like the National Right to Life Committee in the late 1960s, and Operation Rescue two decades later, insinuate themselves into the Republican Party. We see Catholic bishops in the 1960s politicizing their congregations through exhortations from the pulpit and voter registration drives after Mass designed to get parishioners to switch their affiliation from Democrat to Republican.

    What we don’t see is Richard Nixon, under the sway of Pat Buchanan and Charles Colson, plotting an anti-abortion strategy to lure those Catholic voters away from the Democratic Party, or how Gerald Ford and his advisers furthered that strategy, cynically adding pro-life language to the 1976 Republican platform, assuming that it would be a temporary maneuver. Instead, it turned out to be the opening that enabled religious anti-choice advocates to begin to remake the party.

    I’m reminded that I knew an observant Catholic, Baghdad born and against both the war and Saddam, who generally preferred Democratic policies, but was vehement against voting for John Kerry because Kerry took a pro-choice stance despite being a Catholic.

    [Edited for spelling]

  101. 101.

    prostratedragon

    September 2, 2021 at 11:57 pm

    @Martin:  I know that Vail is the domicile of the Elect and all, but they must press charges against these dangerous oafs.

  102. 102.

    Martin

    September 3, 2021 at 12:03 am

    @prostratedragon: There’s an old article that covers that, which Bill Moyers has always endorsed.

    In it they describe a kind of bargain to bring evangelicals toward  the anti choice movement in connection to the ongoing efforts to keep Christian universities segregated. The real motivator to the evangelicals was ongoing segregation, but segregation wasn’t a winning argument, so this was a run at using religious liberty as an argument and abortion was a great issue to pair with that.

  103. 103.

    prostratedragon

    September 3, 2021 at 12:08 am

    @Fair Economist:  Someone around there must have remembered how effective Emmitt Till’s open casket was. No historical memory my ass.

  104. 104.

    prostratedragon

    September 3, 2021 at 12:13 am

    @Martin:  Yes, that was the southern strategy part of it. I was in my teens then, and at least somewhat paying attention. The wooing of Catholics was to make inroads into the mostly Democratic northern cities. Chicago was and is immovable there, but there were successes elsewhere at least for a time.

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    chopper

    September 3, 2021 at 12:22 am

    i also understand timimg

  106. 106.

    Another Scott

    September 3, 2021 at 12:31 am

    ObOpenThread.

    Robert Mercer and his colleagues agreed to pay $7 billion in back taxes.

    Imagine how much they really owe. t.co/RAATvZFfaJ

    — southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 2, 2021

    Good, good. Keep going – there’s more out there.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  107. 107.

    gene108

    September 3, 2021 at 12:32 am

    Recommendation from Hillary on a court reform org she supports.

    mobile.twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1433455897389502464

  108. 108.

    gene108

    September 3, 2021 at 12:33 am

    @Another Scott:

    Shouldn’t $7 billion in back taxes land a person in jail?

    Doesn’t seem right or fair that he’s not going to jail.

  109. 109.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 3, 2021 at 12:36 am

    @Martin: Can you be arrested for threatening assault and false-imprisonment? Because that’s what this sounds like.

  110. 110.

    Martin

    September 3, 2021 at 12:37 am

    @gene108: Yeah, no shit. I lose so much sleep over whether I’m paying enough in quarterly taxes. Maybe if I owed many orders of magnitudes more I could sleep better.

  111. 111.

    Martin

    September 3, 2021 at 12:38 am

    @MisterForkbeard: Sure. Oh, wait, they’re white. So, no.

  112. 112.

    West of the Rockies

    September 3, 2021 at 12:54 am

    @Martin:

    I’d expect no less from a smug, utopian blue-stater.  Did I mention the smugness?//

  113. 113.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 3, 2021 at 1:08 am

    @WaterGirl:

    They should have shown photos on TV of the tiny bodies shredded with bullets. 

    I get where you’re coming from, but there would be so many problems with that.

  114. 114.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 3, 2021 at 1:14 am

    @Martin: It’s possible the GOP thinks they are being cunning and phoning in a the same time. From what I’ve seen the GOP has been acting like a cargo cult more and more; they perform rituals they’ve seen others do without understand how it works.

  115. 115.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 3, 2021 at 1:26 am

    @Martin: I can’t find but Talking Points Memo has a deep dive on the law, this some grass roots thing from the Texas pan handle and it really sounds like a bunch of old godbothers out in deep red Hickistian who want an excuse to harass their grandkids for being unbelievers and don’t give a damn about anything else.   If that article is right, you are right about it’s meant to induce friction, but not in the meta way you are suggesting.  It’s more of the kind of mentality of a child abuser; society is wicked so it must be punished.

  116. 116.

    dm

    September 3, 2021 at 1:27 am

    @Mary G: Not only that, but any corporation that puts a pollutant into the environment that a pregnant woman might be exposed to which might potentially cause her to have a miscarriage.  Those should be reported.

  117. 117.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 3, 2021 at 1:47 am

    @opiejeanne:

    Okay, Norma Desmond. Based on what you’ve said here before, you were more like 22 in 1973. ?

  118. 118.

    quakerinabasement

    September 3, 2021 at 2:03 am

    @Suzanne: You should follow Roy Edroso on Twitter. He keeps tabs on Dreher.

  119. 119.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    September 3, 2021 at 4:29 am

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to get knocked up

  120. 120.

    Mary G

    September 3, 2021 at 4:39 am

    @dm: CA has been doing that for 34 years:

    Proposition 65 requires businesses to provide warnings to Californians about significant exposures to chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. … Proposition 65 became law in November 1986, when California voters approved it by a 63-37 percent margin.

    There are little yellow stickers on gas pumps and at Lowe’s & Home Depot. They are so ubiquitous that I doubt many people pay attention, except for pregnant people. I hope.

  121. 121.

    JoyceH

    September 3, 2021 at 4:46 am

    Anybody still awake? Because I just had a Scathingly Brilliant Idea. I know how we can turn the midterms from a squeaker to a Dem landslide! Ready for this?

    Here’s the plan. Around about October of 2022, we release a scrupulously non-partisan unquestionably patriotic PSA, simply urging everyone to get out there and vote.

    It will star Doctor Fauci.

  122. 122.

    eclare

    September 3, 2021 at 5:55 am

    @JoyceH:  Also SCOTUS decision in Dobbs should come out in June 2022.

  123. 123.

    JoyceH

    September 3, 2021 at 6:06 am

    @eclare: 

    Is it utterly cynical of me to think that maybe the Supreme Court’s recent decision not to block Texas’ abortion ban pending appeal was a finger in the wind?

    Look, they allow this utterly draconian monstrosity to go into effect, with the option to toss it later – and then sit back and see what happens. Nothing much and they overturn Roe. But if it turns into a nationwide kicked over the beehive moment that appears likely to destroy the Republican Party for at least a generation and maybe a century, then they can backtrack, toss the Texas law, write some weasel words that don’t quite overturn Roe to keep the base fired up, and hope the pro-choice movement goes back to sleep.

    Am I suggesting that the Sups are political? Gasp! Heaven forfend!

  124. 124.

    Chris Johnson

    September 3, 2021 at 8:40 am

    @JoyceH: Desperately tacking INTO the wind.

    Bear in mind that, as is increasingly obvious, all this is just leaning farther and farther into fascism. It’s not about building a functioning society: it’s about setting up the power centers, the brownshirts, the vigilantes for ruling an unwilling country by force.

    I would say be damn careful what you wish for.

    It’s possible to do that, and once you get it, it lasts for less time than two presidential terms, which the Republicans were already unable to get no matter how hard they cheated… and that was the EASY way. They seem to think they can double down, because they think they have to, but it is the single dumbest thing they could be doing and they’re doing it.

    Fixing to be the Cow-Turd Reich. They’ll be able to do it for a shockingly brief time and then they’re history. Fascism is NOT a stable end point, it’s a recipe for getting overthrown.

    They think they can rule by force. They really do. There’s an expiration date on that for anybody fool enough to try.

  125. 125.

    Miss Bianca

    September 3, 2021 at 9:03 am

    @Mary G: Disciplinary records of kindergartners at Sandy Hook? For what fucking purpose? So they can prove that those five-year-old thugs had it coming to them?

  126. 126.

    WaterGirl

    September 3, 2021 at 9:40 am

    @Miss Bianca: That was my first thought, too.  Then I realized the goal is to inflict more pain on the families.

    How dare they sue us, the gun manufacturers?  Who the hell do these people think they are???  (this is what I believe the gun manufacturers are thinking)

  127. 127.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    September 3, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: Exactly – this is intimidation.

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