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Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Breaking — Trumpist Jason Miller Still Very, Very Skeevy

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It’s all fun’n’games, until the autogolpe starts. Per the Washington Post:

… In a statement, Miller, the chief executive of the social media site Gettr, said that he and other members of his traveling party were “questioned for three hours at the airport in Brasilia, after having attended this weekend’s CPAC Brasil Conference,” before eventually being released to fly back to the United States.

Miller is among the speakers listed on the website for the Sept. 3-4 Conservative Political Action Conference Brasil. His detention comes on the same day that tens of thousands of people rallied in support of embattled Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, with whom Miller met during his visit…

According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Miller’s questioning was ordered by Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes. The individual spoke on the condition of anonymity to freely talk about the incident.

The order was more fodder for what has grown into a paralyzing constitutional crisis in Brazil. In recent weeks, de Moraes has signed off on the arrest of multiple supporters of Bolsonaro as his office oversees a national investigation into misinformation…

Bolsonaro’s popularity has cratered in recent months as the coronavirus has ravaged the country, the economy has shed millions of jobs and investigations into his conduct have intensified. His discomfort at the inquiries has fueled increasingly bellicose comments, both from him and supporters, some of whom have repeatedly called for him to lead a military takeover of the country and depose those who have sought to constrain his power…

In an interview Monday on former chief White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon’s “War Room” podcast, Miller said that after the United States, Brazil is the second-largest country of origin for Gettr users. He praised Bolsonaro’s supporters and said that “a half-million proud patriots” were expected to show up for Tuesday’s rally.

“What I see here, Steve, is so much love and so much enthusiasm for free speech, and especially the folks who are the Bolsonaro supporters. They’re being deplatformed; they’re being shadow banned; they have the long arm of the law. I mean, it’s some pretty nutty stuff,” Miller told Bannon, who served as an informal adviser to Bolsonaro’s 2018 campaign…

Argentinian expat in DC:

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  3. 3.

    Ken

    after the United States, Brazil is the second-largest country of origin for Gettr users

    Anyone know the numbers? No, wait, don’t tell me — I’ll be happier thinking that’s 8 in the US, 5 in Brazil.

  4. 4.

    Socraticsilence

    For added grim humor check out Brazil’s most famous American expat as he attempts to hair split his way to condemning Bolso while downplaying 1/6 and not losing his new MAGA fanbase

  6. 6.

    Kent

    @Socraticsilence:For added grim humor check out Brazil’s most famous American expat as he attempts to hair split his way to condemning Bolso while downplaying 1/6 and not losing his new MAGA fanbase.

    The most bizarro experience of the week for me was seeing my rabid MAGA cousin quoting Glem on some Ivermectin bullshit.  Apparently he is the new “Colmes” from the old Hannity and Colmes show.  The so-called liberal who validates all their bullshit.  I guess there is money in that.

  11. 11.

    senyordave

    Women of Texas shouldn’t worry, Greg Abbott is on it:
    Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said in a press conference on Tuesday that the state’s new abortion law would not force a rape victim to carry their assailant’s child to term. To achieve this, the governor pledged to “eliminate all rapists” in Texas, the local NBC affiliate KXAN reported.

    Why stop at rape? Why not promise to eliminate all murderers? How about all violent criminals? Then move on to all burglars and petty thieves. Eventually he’ll get around to jaywalkers and speeders. And if he knew all along how to get rid of rapists why has he kept it a secret for so long?

  12. 12.

    Alison Rose

    @senyordave:  Did he give a deadline by which he would achieve this miracle? and do we know what his parameters are? I mean, these fuckers tend to have very narrow definitions of rape, or mayhap we shall call it “legitimate rape,” to use their terminology.

  14. 14.

    dmsilev

    @senyordave: Prediction: this will be accomplished by defining rape so impossibly narrowly that the only thing which qualifies is someone leaping out of a bush and assaulting a suitably-modestly-attired woman.

  15. 15.

    mrmoshpotato

    Bolsonaro’s popularity has cratered in recent months as the coronavirus has ravaged the country, the economy has shed millions of jobs and investigations into his conduct have intensified.

    Sounds bizarrely familiar and domestic.

  16. 16.

    West of the Rockies

    I said this a post or two downstairs… we NEED to see some A-holes punished for 1/6, especially including the instigators and organizers.  Otherwise, RWNJ’s live in a consequence-free world and will continue to storm school board meetings and such.

  17. 17.

    dmsilev

    The impressive, if that’s the right word, thing about Jason Miller is that he’s not even the worst person with the surname Miller in the Trump administration.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    @West of the Rockies:

    we NEED to see some A-holes punished for 1/6, especially including the instigators and organizers

    YES!  A bazillion percent, yes!

    Lady Justice needs to cave in some Dump-humping faces.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    @senyordave: 

    To achieve this, the governor pledged to “eliminate all rapists” in Texas, the local NBC affiliate KXAN reported.

    That’s pretty easy to accomplish. Just repeal the laws making rape illegal.

  21. 21.

    Ken

    @Alison Rose: Now work with me here… We don’t make any laws restricting guns, because only criminals would have guns.  It’s practically proverbial.  So by the same principle, if we don’t make any laws against rape, or murder, or theft, there won’t be any rape, or murder, or theft.  Laws create crime; only a lawless society can be free of crime.

  23. 23.

    Patricia Kayden

    Hoping that Brazil will do with Bolsonaro what we did to Trump last November.

    Go Lula!!!  If the polls hold, he should win (again).

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    Open thread?

    If the vaccine had forced the growing of an aditional thumb, all three would be in the up position.

    Experimented with a mix and match of various recipes to make a loaf of peanut butter-cocoa-coffee-raisin bread in the super duper bread machine.

    This one’s a keeper.

  32. 32.

    Yutsano

    @Ryan: ​ Because these are browns? He’s driven much more by ideology than money.

    OT: Update on Minna: they were able to take her back to MRI. Her brother noted her hands were warm again, so possible hope.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    FYI.

    A judge ruled Monday that an Ohio hospital cannot be forced to give a patient ivermectin for Covid-19, reversing an earlier decision that ordered it to administer a parasite medication that has not been approved to treat the disease.

    In an 11-page decision, Hamilton County Common Pleas Judge Michael Oster Jr. wrote that there “was no doubt that the medical and scientific communities do not support the use of ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19.” Source

  35. 35.

    Splitting Image

    @Yutsano:

    OT: Update on Minna: they were able to take her back to MRI. Her brother noted her hands were warm again, so possible hope.

    I just saw the original thread. Hope she pulls through OK.

  36. 36.

    cain

    @senyordave:

    Perhaps he will have some pre-cogs to help with that?

    The diarrhea of the mouth this guy has! If you can have an abortion before 6 weeks, that doesn’t stop you from getting dragged into court by some deviant white man,right?

  37. 37.

    trollhattan

    Bolsonaro, in addition to being a Portuguese-speaking Nazi, is hellbent on mowing down the Amazonian rainforest for mining and to grow cattle and soybeans (waves to the Chinese export market). The so-called “lungs of the planet” are in great peril and by extension, we all are if this guy remains in power.

  39. 39.

    cain

    @West of the Rockies:

    One thing that has opened my eyes and maybe all of yours as well – is how much the system coddles these folks. Covid deniers/anti-vaxxers goes into a ICU and kicks out people with cancer, accident victims and what not. I have no idea how hospitals allow this.

    Then you see these insurrectionists get fairly mild sentences and then the general somewhat sluggishness of the system to respond to all kinds of bullshit the right wingers are doing.

    It’s just irritating and I dont’ know how we the majority can effect the system that seems to coddle right wingers.

  40. 40.

    cain

    @Ken: Not quite. But you’re going in the right direction. What their thinking is that they repeal the laws for rape, and then force women to own guns and they get punished if they can’t defend themselves against a rapist. By that measure the rapist gets $10k for helping improve protection for women. :dark humor:

  41. 41.

    germy

    Greenwald gets the Pitchbot treatment:

    Opinion | The country I live in may be on the verge of a coup. Here’s why I’ll be tweeting about MSNBC’s coverage of ivermectin overdoses in the United States all day.

    — New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) September 7, 2021

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @zhena gogolia:

    I’d forgotten about Colmes. Just looked him up to see what he’s up to these days, and to my surprise he is dead. How did I not know that? (Or perhaps I did and had interred the knowledge.)

  44. 44.

    trollhattan

    Here’s a shockeroo:

    The Taliban have announced an interim government in Afghanistan, declaring the country an “Islamic Emirate”.

    The new cabinet, entirely male, is made up of senior Taliban figures some of whom are notorious for attacks on US forces over the last two decades.

    It will be led by Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, one of the movement’s founders, who is on a UN blacklist.

    The interior minister is the feared FBI-wanted leader of the Haqqani militant group, Sirajuddin Haqqani.

    The Taliban seized control of most of Afghanistan more than three weeks ago, ousting the previous elected leadership.

    The announcement of the acting cabinet is a key step in the formation of a permanent Taliban government. The new leadership will face significant challenges, not least stabilising the country’s economy and gaining international recognition.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58479750

    Afghan sausagefest, just like a death metal concert.

  46. 46.

    WereBear

    In the end, it’s always the raging incompetence that brings them down. Prosaic, that.

    Not a great thing for the GQP to gamble on in this age of razor-thin margins.

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @senyordave:

    To achieve this, the governor pledged to “eliminate all rapists” in Texas, the local NBC affiliate KXAN reported.

    I have a feeling he’s going to (try to) decriminalise rape — basically disappear it as actionable. There’s no such thing as rape, little lady, therefore you can’t have been raped, therefore there’s no such thing as a rape exception in the abortion bill law.

  48. 48.

    Patricia Kayden

    SUPER DUPER FUN FACT:The Texas abortion snitch website has been shut down yet again by another domain provider, Epik, because they said it violates its terms of use.THIS IS EPIC.??— BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) September 7, 2021

  49. 49.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Ken:

    Now work with me here… We don’t make any laws restricting guns, because only criminals would have guns. It’s practically proverbial. So by the same principle, if we don’t make any laws against rape, or murder, or theft, there won’t be any rape, or murder, or theft. Laws create crime; only a lawless society can be free of crime.

    William S. Gilbert could easily have written this to resolve all the loose plot threads in any of his operettas.

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    @SiubhanDuinne: 
    Maybe he’ll lift the idea from Duterte’s war on drug dealers and just go out and start shooting dudes. “You, you look like a rapist. You a rapist?” Blam!

    Plus, he’s already shown himself to be a fan of bounties.

    The Philippines’ President-elect Rodrigo Duterte has encouraged the public to go after drug dealers, urging citizens with guns to shoot and kill them.

    In a nationally televised speech late on Saturday, Duterte, who will be sworn in on June 30, told a huge crowd in the southern city of Davao that he will offer huge bounties to those who turn in drug lords – dead or alive.

  52. 52.

    prostratedragon

    @NotMax:  Ah! Thought that might be it. Always hurts me to learn that many of his works appear to be lost.

    @trollhattan:  What in the world is his major mania there? Seems to make the analogies that are drawn between sexual rapacity and callous treatment of the earth and its resources quite exact.

  54. 54.

    Anne Laurie

    @cain: If you can have an abortion before 6 weeks, that doesn’t stop you from getting dragged into court by some deviant white man,right?

    A less-than-six-weeks old embryo doesn’t have a ‘heartbeat’, so not per the existing dog’s breakfast of a law.

    Lots of women in Texas will be stocking up on Plan B (48-hours-after-intercourse birth control) and probably also misoprostol.

    Of course the Texas fetus-fetishists will go after those drugs next, but it’s a lot harder to harass a woman in her own home.  The availability/ information about ‘pharmaceutical’ abortions is the closest we get to a sliver of a silver lining here, IMO.

  57. 57.

    Ken

    @trollhattan: Any word on whether any of the new caliphate’s cabinet members were among the thousands released from prison under the terms of the Trump deal with the Taliban?

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    @Ken:

    Great question–have not heard that detail, yet, but will not be surprised.

    In other repressive regime news, Matt Gaetz has a friend in Minnesota.

    September 7, 2021 at 7:46 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

    “A prominent Minnesota GOP donor who is charged with multiple counts of sex trafficking is now being sued by an underage girl who says he used her for sex acts, then offered her money to keep her from talking about it,” ABC News reports.

    “The lawsuit filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court alleges that Anton Lazzaro’s attorneys offered $1,000 in hush money to the girl and her parents to keep them quiet and asked them to sign a non-disclosure agreement. The girl’s father refused and instead went to law enforcement, said their attorney, Jeff Anderson.”

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken:

    Any word on whether any of the new caliphate’s cabinet members were among the thousands released from prison under the terms of the Trump deal with the Taliban?

    sigh.

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken: No, not too soon at all.  Sigh because there was no reason to let those people go.  The 200 dead at the airport and the 13 service people?  On T****’s head.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    @phdesmond

    Last time I was in Brazil was — gasp — sixty years ago this summer. If I learned it then it has long since crept back into the wild.

    ;)

  66. 66.

    artem1s

    @Anne Laurie:

    but it’s a lot harder to harass a woman in her own home.  The availability/ information about ‘pharmaceutical’ abortions is the closest we get to a sliver of a silver lining here, IMO.

    Pharmacists are going to be the first to turn women in or they will be the first to get reported for aiding and abetting an abortion. Just asking about a pharmaceutical option will be grounds for charging someone with an abortion thought crime.

  68. 68.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Ryan: Drat! Why couldn’t have it been Santa Monica Goebbels Reinhard Heydrich Mini-Me Miller?

    FTFY. (You’re quite welcome!)

  69. 69.

    sdhays

    @Anne Laurie: It’s not a silver lining, but I think that since having this fight was basically inevitable as soon as Dump was inaugurated President, it’s good that this law is the first that the Supremacist Court chose to green light. It will cause a backlash (how big is yet to be seen). It may be for the overall good if other states like Florida pass copycat laws too. It could end up costing Republicans everything, including the Supremacist Court.

    I don’t say this lightly. A lot of people are going to be hurt. But since that’s already baked in with the current Court, I think the best chance to end this shit quickly (as quickly as possible given our system and structural issues) is for these assholes to go all in on their Cultural Revolution and reap the whirlwind. Hopefully.

  74. 74.

    cmorenc

    @sdhays: 

    It could end up costing Republicans everything, including the Supremacist Court.

    Except for the wee problem that SCOTUS seats are life appointments, and can’t be voted off the court.

  76. 76.

    Kay

    Weird that Republicans conditioned “eliminating all the rapists” on banning abortion. Why didn’t they do that before? We have to earn it by having the rapists’ babies? They were fine with the rapists as long as their victims insisted on getting abortions but now we outrank the rapists, where before we were both “bad” so they saw it as even?

    Just trying to get my head around this new pregnancy regulation regime. What countries legal system is grounded in this bizarre, brutal moral calculus they pulled out of their ass? Not any country I’m familiar with.

  78. 78.

    Anne Laurie

    @sdhays: I don’t say this lightly. A lot of people are going to be hurt. But since that’s already baked in with the current Court, I think the best chance to end this shit quickly (as quickly as possible given our system and structural issues) is for these assholes to go all in on their Cultural Revolution and reap the whirlwind. Hopefully.

    You are, unfortunately, correct.

    The GOP Death Cultists can’t ‘end abortion’.  But they can hurt a great many individuals, and probably kill a few in the process.  Like you, I’m counting on the backlash — and also the fact of its ineffectiveness — to blow back at the Republicans.  I just wish it didn’t cost so much to so many innocent bystanders!

  79. 79.

    Eolirin

    @cmorenc: Alito, Thomas and Roberts will be dead sooner or later. If we get control of the white house and senate for the next several cycles because of blowback from attacking Roe, we replace them all.

    I’m less optimistic about that happening, especially in the face of gerrymandering, willingness to overturn elections, and voter suppression, while voting rights laws are stalled out in the senate, but it could.

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