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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Merrick Garland Press Conference Announcing Civil Enforcement Action (LIVE) at 3:00 Eastern

Merrick Garland Press Conference Announcing Civil Enforcement Action (LIVE) at 3:00 Eastern

by WaterGirl|  September 9, 20212:15 pm| 110 Comments

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Merrick Garland Press Conference Announcing Civil Enforcement Action (LIVE)

Act 2:

Department of Justice to Hold Press Conference Announcing Civil Enforcement Action at 2:30 2:45 3:00 pm  ET

In the meantime:   DOJ LIVE Link

Full text of the DOJ suit.

 

 

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    September 9, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    It’s nice to look forward to DOJ pressers instead of thinking OH DEAR GOD WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS NOW.

  2. 2.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    :: chuckling in agreement ::

    I am kind of on pins and needles waiting for this one.

  3. 3.

    Baud

    September 9, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    On one hand, it seems odd to me to describe a suit against Texas as an “enforcement” action.  On other other, this has to be a big deal if the AG is personally involved.

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:28 pm

    @Baud: Glad you are here.  Imm apparently thinks a faculty meeting is more important.  harrumph!

    Just kidding, I hope he ditches the meeting and joins us.  I think we’ve got a 50-50 chance of that.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    September 9, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I unfortunately can’t stay.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:32 pm

    @Baud: oh, no.  What could be more important than us?  (she asked hopefully)

    edit: they just moved it to 2:45.  At this rate, you may be done with your thing before it starts. :-)

  7. 7.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 9, 2021 at 2:33 pm

    I’ll save a seat for Imm, just in case :)​

    ETA: Plenty of time for Imm to arrive; the start time has been pushed to 2:45 PM ET.

    2nd ETA: Great minds think alike… and ours, too. (As a dear, now-departed friend used to say.)

  8. 8.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 2:35 pm

    The Biden admin is preparing to file a lawsuit imminently against Texas over its new law banning most abortions, setting off a federal-state clash over the future of abortion rights. DOJ scheduled a 2:30 pm newser to announce a “civil enforcement action.” https://t.co/i12ZDE3QjZ

    — Sadie Gurman (@sgurman) September 9, 2021

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:35 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: I always think they will start on time.  The time I wait 30-60 minutes to put the post up will be the one time they start on time.

    Ever hopeful.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:36 pm

    @H.E.Wolf:

    Great minds think alike… and ours, too.

    Funny.

  11. 11.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    NEW: The Biden administration is preparing to sue Texas as soon as Thursday over a new law banning most abortions, an action that would set off a federal-state clash as the future of abortion rights becomes an ever-more-pressing question before the courts. https://t.co/9b3LW79FxF

    — Sadie Gurman (@sgurman) September 9, 2021

    Republicans hope this gets the evangelicals riled up on election day. But the evangelicals are always riled up.

  12. 12.

    Another Scott

    September 9, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    DOJ link now says 3 PM.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    September 9, 2021 at 2:38 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Nothing is more important than you.  I’ve cancelled my kidney donation.

  14. 14.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 2:39 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    They’re never on time.  It’s like waiting for Lauryn Hill to walk onstage.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    @Baud: That was good for a literal laugh out loud.  The real literal.

  16. 16.

    geg6

    September 9, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    @germy:

    LOL!

  17. 17.

    SpaceUnit

    September 9, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    Garland better bring it.  They can’t afford to go half-ass.

  18. 18.

    The Moar You Know

    September 9, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    Republicans hope this gets the evangelicals riled up on election day. But the evangelicals are always riled up.

    @germy: like my mother.  Everyone in the family: “don’t piss her off, OMG don’t piss her off”

    Or what?  SHE’LL BE NORMAL?

  19. 19.

    Ksmiami

    September 9, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    @germy: as riled up as they can be from their Covid-ICU

  20. 20.

    CaseyL

    September 9, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    “The real literal” – excellent!

    There are tree removers AND roofers at my complex today.  I’ve had to put Jen Psaki’s presser on pause and will likely have to do the same for AG Garland, because I can’t hear them over the noise.

    Relatedly – does anyone have a rec for a good pair of not-expensive non-wireless headphones?  The ones I see online are all $150 or more.  I really don’t want to spend that much, but the last pair I got (and spent $44 on)  fell apart in, like, 2 days.  Thanks!

    ETA: Yes, non-wireless.  I am a Luddite who can’t figure out Bluetooth, and want something with a jack I can plug into the computer.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 2:51 pm

    @SpaceUnit: Remember, our side sticks to what is legally available.  We don’t just make shit up and see what flies.

  22. 22.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks WaterGirl.

    Hello from Colorado Springs.  If this does start at 3, I will be able to catch some of it live.

  23. 23.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 9, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    @Baud: Good man.

  24. 24.

    Ken

    September 9, 2021 at 2:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: Way to dash my hopes that the AG is announcing the arrest of the governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state, and all members of the legislature who voted for this law.

  25. 25.

    SpaceUnit

    September 9, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Yeah.  My point is that they’re going to end up before a Supreme Court that’s aching to set a precedent.

  26. 26.

    Chief Oshkosh

    September 9, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    @Ken:

    “My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Texas forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

  27. 27.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 9, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    @Alison Rose: Hahaha!  Yes.

  28. 28.

    karen marie

    September 9, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    @CaseyL:   I bought a new pair of wired headphones that I use for transcription and have been using them for a couple of weeks.  I highly recommend them as they are “over ear” rather than “on ear,” and reasonably comfortable.  I wear them for up to eight hours a day and have no complaints at all.  I can hear with these much better than with my ancient “on ear” headphones.  The description says “bluetooth,” which you can do, but they also come with a wire to plug into your laptop or desktop, which is what I do.

    From Amazon, for $48:   OneOdio A70 Bluetooth Over Ear Headphones

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    @Ken: That is sad, isn’t it.  Sorry about that.

  30. 30.

    Spanky

    September 9, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    What could be more important than us?

    Billable hours.

  31. 31.

    CaseyL

    September 9, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    @karen marie: Thanks!!

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    @karen marie: what does “over ear” mean vs “on ear”.  If one of those was “in ear”, I would know what that meant.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm

    @Spanky: You make a good point.

  34. 34.

    Another Scott

    September 9, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    Garland’s talking.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    Garland is speaking!

  36. 36.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    And I never understood earbuds.

    For years, ear doctors have said “don’t put anything in your ears because you’ll push the earwax deeper, and it’ll cause problems!”

    But then earplugs are okay?  And earbuds?

    I don’t like anything in my ears.*

     

    *Other than the sweet promises of Democrats I vote for.

  37. 37.

    CODave

    September 9, 2021 at 3:09 pm

    @Elizabelle: Hello from Manitou Springs!

  38. 38.

    zhena gogolia

    September 9, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    @germy: I don’t either. For noise I use Bose headphones that envelop the ears.

  39. 39.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 3:11 pm

    He’ll be taking questions?  Good, but I don’t have high hopes for the quality of questions he’ll face.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    September 9, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    @CasyeL

    Have been more than pleased with these, which include both a wire and Bluetooth. For the more than reasonable price (although I see they now have gone up a few bucks) I’m not expecting to get decades of use out of them, but then again headphones are not something which I use daily, so who knows.

    Bonus (in my case) is they’re super comfy. I can wear them for the 4 or 5 hours it takes for our gaming group’s weekly remote RPG session and not even notice they’re there. YMMV on that.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2021 at 3:13 pm

    @CODave: 

    Lucky pup! Love Manitou Springs. We were there last weekend for your art festival! Enjoying the people, scenery and no humidity.

    Also, mucho dog culture.

  42. 42.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 9, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    @NotMax: You shoot off rocket propelled grenades over there? (makes note to avoid Maui).

  43. 43.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 9, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    @CaseyL, @karen marie:

    Helpful link.

  44. 44.

    CaseyL

    September 9, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    @NotMax: Thanks much!

    Garland’s presser was short and to the point.  One thing I’d like to know is, where is the suit being filed? Is this something that can be filed with SCOTUS directly, or does it need to go through the court system starting with (I guess) a Federal Circuit Court in Texas?

    Ah!  Judd Legum has posted the filed Complaint on Twitter.  They are starting off with the Federal District Court in Austin, TX.  I’m gonna go read the Complaint.

  45. 45.

    feebog

    September 9, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    Brief and thoughtful announcement.  Sounds like they gamed it out and think they have the arguments ready.  Garland v. Paxton, let’s get ready to rumble.

  46. 46.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 9, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    That last answer had some serious “I said what I said” energy. As much as they are trying to say this is Rule of Law business (and it is), I get the feeling there’s some..feeling behind all this, on Garland’s side.

  47. 47.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 9, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    Short and sweet.

  48. 48.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 9, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    Short speech, and to the point. Repeated emphasis on “scheme”, “unconstitutional”, “deprivation of constitutional rights”. Took 3 questions, to all of which he referred the inquirer to his statement and the text of the lawsuit.

    My favorite quote (in response to the 3rd question): “The Department of Justice does not file lawsuits based on pressure.”

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    I was shocked to see how few seats there were in the audience.  Thankful that none of the idiots who are assigned to the white house were able to attend.

  50. 50.

    persistentillusion

    September 9, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: ​
      Elizabelle, you’re in COS? Resident or visiting? Long-time resident here.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: Yes!  I also liked the rhetoric in his speech.  He didn’t shy away from using words like “bounties”, either.

  52. 52.

    zhena gogolia

    September 9, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    @H.E.Wolf: That was good.

  53. 53.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    Meanwhile:

    New:

    "Ex-Fox News Anchor Ed Henry Must Face Sex Trafficking Suit, as Judge Advances Multiple Claims Against Him and Network" https://t.co/a1pXDHQWNn via @lawcrimenews

    — Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) September 9, 2021

  54. 54.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 9, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    @CaseyL: From what I’m gathering on Twitter (i.e. grain of salt), it’s about to be on the docket:

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. STATE OF TEXAS. Nature of Suit: 950 Constitutional – State Statute Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Plaintiff. Nature of Suit: 950 Constitutional – State Statute CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:21-cv-00796

    And there’s this commentary:

    DOJ is suing the state *directly,* relying on the fact that states don’t have sovereign immunity against suits by the federal government.

    As well as:

    […]this would essentially skip the nonsense of appeals and force SCOTUS to rule on the merits quickly, yes? I doubt they would uphold this law on the merits, because doing so would open a Pandora’s box of legal nightmares beyond imagining.

    Take all that for what it’s worth, and I’m sure we’ll know more very soon.

  55. 55.

    John S.

    September 9, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    And in other news today:

    Joe Biden said in a Thursday afternoon statement that he was no longer proposing David Chipman, a 25-year veteran of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) who has worked to tighten gun laws, as the agency’s next director

    Chipman’s nomination, which Biden announced in April, was in trouble, stalled by opposition from pro-gun Republicans in the US Senate and targeted by the NRA and industry lobbyists.

  56. 56.

    prostratedragon

    September 9, 2021 at 3:24 pm

    @CaseyL:  I use Panasonic rp-ht260-k. Pretty good sound and the current pair is still usable after 2 years.  I use them exactly as you describe.

  57. 57.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    @CaseyL: 

    Relatedly – does anyone have a rec for a good pair of not-expensive non-wireless headphones? The ones I see online are all $150 or more.

    The oldie-but-goodie Koss Porta-Pro are still an amazing value at $35. Or you can try your luck on eBay and see if you can find a NOS pair of Sennheiser HD414.

  58. 58.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 9, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    Full text of complaint is up: https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/lawsuit-doj.pdf and elsewhere, I’m sure.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    @germy: Appalling.

  60. 60.

    leeleeFL

    September 9, 2021 at 3:29 pm

    When I think Garland should be on SCOTUS, and we have Kavanaugh, I want to throat punch Turtle Mitch for the rest of his miserable life! Is that bad?
    I don’t think I should maintain my level of fury, for fear I might stroke out!
    I got work to do?

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:30 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: Thanks for that!  I added the link up top.

  62. 62.

    germy

    September 9, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/doj-announces-and-files-aggressive-lawsuit-to-combat-texas-restrictive-anti-abortion-law/
    DOJ Files Aggressive Lawsuit to Combat Texas’ Restrictive Anti-Abortion Law, Cites Chief Justice Roberts’ Dissent

  63. 63.

    Just Chuck

    September 9, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    @germy: Earplugs don’t seem to do a lot of harm, and then there’s FDA-approved stuff like hearing aids.  Medical advice has to be simplified or people will go around jamming nails in their ears.

    As for earbuds, Apple’s are the gold standard.  They don’t feel “stuffed into” your ear, just naturally fitting there.  And given how earbuds so frequently get a wire torn out or the rubber pad popped off, they pay for themselves with their build quality.  Not inclined to get Airpods myself though: I would lose them within a month.

  64. 64.

    karen marie

    September 9, 2021 at 3:33 pm

    @WaterGirl:   “Over ear” headphones are like if you took two teacups and put them over your ears.  “On ear” headphones are like if you just put your palms over your ears.  I find that the “over ear” helps concentrate the sound better.

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 9, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Types of earphones.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 9, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    I sure am glad that Garland listened to all the people on Twitter and DID SOMETHING.

  67. 67.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2021 at 3:35 pm

    @persistentillusion:   Helped a friend relocate from Philadelphia for a new job here.  She has a full size standard poodle and a tiny cat, and I invited myself into the carload too.  It was a great trip.

    Staying another week.  Just too pretty to head home.

  68. 68.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:  I know.  The bows that those on twitter take …

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    @karen marie: Thank you, that is a super helpful explanation!

  70. 70.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    @germy: Color me unsurprised!

  71. 71.

    Chetan Murthy

    September 9, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    @CaseyL: I bought “Shure SE215-K Professional Sound Isolating Earphones with Single Dynamic MicroDriver, Secure In-Ear Fit – Black” for $99 from AMZN …. years ago.  The wire part is detachable from the earbuds themselves, and hence replaceable.  $30 for the replacement.

    Cheap-ass me, I thought these were really, really pricey. But they sound great, and more importantly, the wired part needs replacing at most once a year, so …. actually cheaper than buying 2-3 sets of cheapo wired earbuds a year, which is what I was doing before.

  72. 72.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 9, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Screaming helped! I said SCREAMING HELPED! ?

  73. 73.

    Tarragon

    September 9, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    @CaseyL:

    I’m a fan of Sony MDR-7506.  Still about $100, but I’ve had a pair a good long time, worth it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E

  74. 74.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Glad you are here.  Wondering what court will hear this first.  Do we know that?  (royal we, obviously)

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    September 9, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    @John S.:  I wondered if pulling Chipman’s nomination is an inducement for Manchin (and maybe others) to go along with other legislation.   Maybe it’s a carrot; give them some bragging rights if they feel the need.

    We will get a good ATF head.  At some point.

  76. 76.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 9, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    New: President Biden will sign an executive order today requiring all federal workers to be vaccinated, with no option of being regularly tested instead, according to a source familiar with the plans. https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1435946452430295043

    As a Federal worker, I’d be fine with that.

  77. 77.

    Josie

    September 9, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    I like that the attorney general specifically mentioned terrorism at home as well as abroad.  Possibly a shot across the bow of the “patriots” who are planning a rally next week.

  78. 78.

    Another Scott

    September 9, 2021 at 3:49 pm

    @Elizabelle: Biden’s statement said only one head of the ATF has ever been confirmed by the Senate.  (Looks like it became a senate-confirmed position in 1972.)  Seems like it’s been a political punching bag for ages.

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  79. 79.

    John S.

    September 9, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    @Elizabelle: Apparently in the entire history of the agency, there has only been ONE director confirmed by the Senate. That’s some seriously outsized influence by the gun lobby.

    ETA: Another Scott beat me to it.

  80. 80.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 9, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    Good on ya, Four Seasons Ghouliani’s A Total Assclown Landscaping!

    [email protected], no, we don't have a vacancy for a Four Seasons Political Consultant. Please stop contacting us.— Four Seasons Total Landscaping (@TotalSeasons) September 9, 2021

  81. 81.

    Cermet

    September 9, 2021 at 3:51 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: You think this inferior court gives a shit about opening a Pandora’s box of legal issues if it upholds the texass law? Like the fake inferior court on the Gore vs. bush, they’ll make it only applicable to texass law. Done.

    Don’t be so naïve.

  82. 82.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 9, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    @John S.:

    That’s some seriously outsized influence by the gun lobby. 

    I believe they prefer ‘gun-humping, ammosexual, penis substitute lobby’.

  83. 83.

    zhena gogolia

    September 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    @leeleeFL: It’s Gorsuch he should be there instead of. Bad as Kavanaugh is, he’s replacing Kennedy.

  84. 84.

    zhena gogolia

    September 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    lol

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    @Josie: Interesting take!  I thought he might have been making a soft reference to the terrorism of this Texas abortion law.

  86. 86.

    The Moar You Know

    September 9, 2021 at 3:57 pm

    I’m a fan of Sony MDR-7506.

    @Tarragon: So am I.  Great over-ear headphones.

    For earbuds, it doesn’t get any better than these:

    KZ AS10

    I’m a former Shure earbud user, got mine stolen, and am never looking back.

  87. 87.

    CaseyL

    September 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm

    Thank you to everyone who chimed in on headsets!

    The Complaint that DoJ filed is a thing of beauty.  It takes SB 8 apart to a molecular level and notes each threat: to Constitutional Rights, the ability of the Federal Government agencies to fulfill their contractual obligations, and to the ability to govern at all, if Constitutional Rights and Federal Law can be evaded the way SB 8 evades them.

    I’ll be very interested to read whatever response Texas comes up with.  It’ll have to elide the entire Complaint and yammer on about sanctity-of-life (which can be easily rebutted, if need be; just look at Texas’ covid response).

  88. 88.

    Amir Khalid

    September 9, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Over-ear headphones completely enclose your ears. The listening experience is the most immersive; but the headphones themselves can be bulky, heavy, and uncomfortable. On-ear phones have smaller speaker enclosures that sit lightly on the ears: comfier, but often light in the lower frequencies and they might just slide off if you bang your head too vigorously to the music. In-ears, I have found, don’t sound that great, and don’t fit my ears well, yet tend to accumulate earwax.

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 9, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    @WaterGirl: Well, I am not sure whether we should have male lawyers arguing about things here.

    That being said, it was filed in Federal court in Austin, so it starts there.

  90. 90.

    moops

    September 9, 2021 at 4:05 pm

    Now arrest Donald Trump for incitement.

  91. 91.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 9, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    @Cermet: Someone asked for the information on the case. I provided what was available at the time, along with 3rd party commentary that, if you re-read my comment, I even said “Take all that for what it’s worth” at the end.

    But yet, you chose to attack me. I’m not really curious as to why; I just want to point it out, because it seems to happen a lot more here than I’m actually getting to be comfortable with, to be blunt.

    If you have a problem with that quote, I’m sure you can express it without calling me names, please and thank you.

  92. 92.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 9, 2021 at 4:09 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: That particular commenter is an asshole.  Always has been.  It wasn’t anything personal.

  93. 93.

    Woodrow/asim

    September 9, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It wasn’t anything personal.

    I’ve been here for a while, and yeah, I know. Yet I’m not invested, these days, in just letting toxic behavior slide, yanno?

    Tempers flare; done it myself. Yet when all you do is flare, it’s just disruptive. I might Pie ’em, yet I don’t have to just accept it when it’s directed towards me, either.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    September 9, 2021 at 4:16 pm

    @Amir Khalid

    Well, could also go old school for earbuds.

    Although I don’t look all that fetching in a miniskirt and would be loath to break up the set.

    :)

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ll take informed conversation with/from attorneys here, male or female.  You’re not telling us what we should think, you’re just sharing knowledge.

  96. 96.

    WaterGirl

    September 9, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: Happens a lot here from Cermet?  Or generally?

    You are one of the voices here that I really appreciate, so I don’t want you to go go away mad, or even go away at all.

  97. 97.

    Another Scott

    September 9, 2021 at 4:31 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: It’s a good, clear, thorough read.  Summary judgment hear we come!  (I hope.)

    Thanks for the pointer.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  98. 98.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    @SpaceUnit: 

    Garland better bring it. They can’t afford to go half-ass.

    Satisfied?

  99. 99.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    @Cermet:

    When did you become Scott Lemieux?

  100. 100.

    persistentillusion

    September 9, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    @Elizabelle: ​
      The Springs has its moments. Do try to see some of the touristy stuff if time allows. VisitCOS.com has lots of suggestions. Enjoy your stay.

  101. 101.

    OldDave

    September 9, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    Another possible on-the-ear headphone (however, one that looks like it’s from 1950): the Grado SR60.

  102. 102.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    It’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that the District Court In and For the Democratic People’s Republic of Austin will give the United States substantially all the relief it requested, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens on summary judgment. I just hope all kinds of embarrassing shit comes out in discovery.

    The Fifth Circuit is another story.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    September 9, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    @burnspbesq

    Fifth Circuit, still #1 in reversals by SCOTUS!

  104. 104.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    I especially like the Supremacy Clause/pre-emption part of the complaint. The fact that the United States has obligations under Federal law to provide reproductive health services to persons under its care tees up a pretty unassailable showing of irreparable harm at the TRO/preliminary injunction stage.

    My only teeny-weeny disappointment is that DOJ didn’t go in ex parte for a TRO. That would have been a loud “fuck you” to Abbott and Paxton. But the complaint is loud enough.

  105. 105.

    Kathleen

    September 9, 2021 at 5:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: This will shut them up for 1/10 of a nanosecond.

  106. 106.

    burnspbesq

    September 9, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    Yeah, but do those data include any part of Barrett’s tenure?

  107. 107.

    Kathleen

    September 9, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    @Woodrow/asim: I would be upset also. I have 0 tolerance for behaviors I’ve experienced/observed here vs. what a lot of other people here accept as OK. I will admit that I can be think skinned but I accept that about myself. I’ve just learned to keep my mouth shut abut 95% of the time.

  108. 108.

    debbie

    September 9, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I sure am glad that Garland listened to all the people on Twitter and DID SOMETHING.

    Do you think they’ll be happy now or did he miss some little thing?

  109. 109.

    J R in WV

    September 9, 2021 at 6:46 pm

    @CODave:

    Hello from Manitou Springs!

    A fascinating and old fashioned place, with hotel billboards that advertise smoking rooms, and they don’t mean cigarettes, they mean Green Weed!

  110. 110.

    Miss Bianca

    September 9, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    @Elizabelle: Waving from Custer County! (SW of Colorado Springs)

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