It's ok. We never identified him as a Democrat either. Good riddance. https://t.co/ie3QUwxoBU
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) September 9, 2021
Everybody on social media needed a little treat, some jamoke to abuse, after this long week…
I gotta say that launching a third party makes perfect sense for Andrew Yang; he's more than qualified to do so.
Yang's been losing elections as a media curiosity that nobody takes too seriously for years now, which provides him with all the experience he needs. pic.twitter.com/Og9w1awFIl
— KnowNothing (@KnowNothingTV) September 9, 2021
"Andrew Yang is starting a 3rd party…"
me: huh interesting
"…that coincides with the release of his new book."
me: and there it is
— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) September 9, 2021
this is the only time i will say this, but comparing yang's vanity party to no labels is wildly unfair to no labels https://t.co/TO5JUUHnsK
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) September 10, 2021
yeah I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt as 'kind of dumb but well meaning,' but the last year or so has definitely scrapped that
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) September 10, 2021
Andrew Yang will guarantee everyone in his new party a universal basic income paid in BotCoin… which is like BitCoin but doesn’t actually exist — but totally could exist if you join the Yang Gang something something Tesla Entrepreneur Crypto. https://t.co/jK63pahPnV
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@TheRealHoarse) September 9, 2021
"I can't in good faith be part of any group that is unwilling to make me its leader."
— Office of Chimchar Management (@TeatimeXavier) September 10, 2021
I assume Yang’s been prepping this for a while — note the date on the NYTimes beat-sweetner:
This report on Yang's business background shows him to be, surprisingly enough, a well-meaning, good-natured dilettante who's failed or quit every difficult task after law school. https://t.co/r5F9zjgy6d
— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 1, 2021
Return of the ‘Useful Idiot‘…
Guy Jill Stein
— Sterling ? (@SterlingRettke) September 10, 2021
Note I am NOT saying any of those candidates participated in or was aware of Russian support. Bernie was briefed on it in iirc March. But somehow Yang got a lot of consistent support & it didn’t fit obviously in to a Dem primary constituency.
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 10, 2021
Baud
While I was never on the Yang train, I admit I’m a little disappointed to hear this news.
Joe Falco
I knew this guy was a clown when he made noises about moving to Georgia to vote in the Senate run-off. Good riddance.
trollhattan
“Guy Jill Stein” hey, unfair, until he has dinner with Putin, then I’m all in on the comparison. (Wait, did he ever do vocals for a hippie band?)
The schtick, it’s past the sell-by date. Get a job, Andy.
Omnes Omnibus
So he quit politics….
Another Scott
I never understood his appeal beyond the highly idealistic people who didn’t understand how politics works. He seems to be thinking that Ralph Nader is the model for elected political success, or something.
His NYC campaign was a disaster.
If he holds on and actually stays in the news, yeah, look at who is funding him. People who consistently fail but won’t go away are being pushed by someone with deep pockets for a reason…
Cheers,
Scott.
James Head
Why doesn’t Yang launch another vanity rocket ship, has to be easier than launching a third party in the US?
And quite possibly less expensive?
OTOH, grifting is easier.
Ah, got it.
Ken
I’ll take “Things that sound like euphemisms but aren’t” for $400.
dmsilev
@James Head: Bezos has spent several billion dollars (so far) on his vanity rocket company. Yang is rich, but not anywhere in that ballpark. I’m sure he could afford to buy a ride on one of the glorified roller-coaster rocket rides (cost is a few hundred thousand, if memory serves), but not build his own.
debbie
Yang’s a smarter, less cruel version of TFG.
Baud
@debbie:
Wow. That’s harsh.
NotMax
(With apologies to Ms Garland.)
Yang Yang Yang went the folly…
SpaceUnit
imagine being so bored that you’d actually read a book by Andrew Yang.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: But true, no?
Johnnybuck
Seems the appropriate response to this is to simply point and laugh. I say this as somoe who liked the guy well enough, mostly because I knew he was harmless.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I guess I haven’t followed Yang that closely. I thought he was just flaky and not really suited for elected office.
eclare
@NotMax: Oh gawd….
NotMax
I’d be willing to wager some serious spondulicks the phrase “just a banana man” has never before appeared in any legal ruling.
:)
piratedan
I don’t have a thing against 3rd parties in the US Political system….
they tend to be cult of personality things as of late but on the whole, I do wish that there was a sane “alternative” to Democrats… say even a Progressive Party that staked out a position even farther to the left on Nationalizing Health Care, Climate Change, Environmental Cleanup, Reproductive rights, enforcement of white collar crimes etc
running on a platform of hunting down nuisance calls regarding my auto insurance warranty expiration, stopping corporate tracking of users on the internet, forcing civil engineers to plan better interstate interchanges, forcing all trucking out of the fast lanes of the interstate, more national parks etc etc etc… who knows, something more aggressive might act as a perfect foil for the Dems.
Thing is, that takes hard work, passionate shared vision and financial common cause to make happen.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: It’s more serious than flaky. He was poised to do some kind of serious damage in NYC.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: .
Where did he end up finishing in the primary? Fourth?
zhena gogolia
@Baud: I have no idea, and the NYT doesn’t tell me, but it has this:
Insufferable arrogance.
Apparently fourth.
Urza
Does he even have a policy position on anything other than UBI? Thats the only thing i’m actually aware of and I would imagine with all the press he got for being a rich techbro that I would have heard of more if it existed.
MomSense
@NotMax:
string string string along his fans
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
See, that strikes me as flaky. Hardly worth a comparison to TFG.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: I think debbie may have been referring to potential rather than actual deeds. I agree. He makes me very nervous.
ETA: Anyone in the orbit of NYC remembers when TFG was just a harmless, flaky publicity-seeker.
Baud
@piratedan:
Not in the US political system. We’d have to revamp our entire electoral system for it not to be destructive.
CaseyL
I thought he was a sincere, totally clueless tech dudebro; with enough money to launch any number of vanity political campaigns.
But if he’s forming a new party at the same time he comes out with a book, then odds are – however sincere he may have started out – he has fallen in love with the grifting possibilities of being A Perpetual Outsider Running For Office. Cf: Jill Stein.
Fleeting Expletive
@Urza: He also likes math. He’s good at math. Everybody should be good at math!
Poe Larity
If he can just get Rod Dreher to join him on the ticket, maybe the Pope would know who they are.
dr. bloor
I’d make a joke about “Ross Perot’s and Jill Stein’s love child,” but then I’d be forced to apolgize to everyone after I finished mopping up my own vomit.
mrmoshpotato
@SpaceUnit: LOL
moops
I have a hunch that a Yang book would be a trivial speed-read. I’ve wasted time on YouTube pet videos. This seems about the same level of time investment. You know, like I’m on a train and my mifi is not working. Could get through most of it between 15 street station and Union station heading into SF.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott:
We call them children in my neck of the woods – stupid, selfish children.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Dude is a grifter. It’s not too complicated.
Tim C
@Urza: The only other policy proposal I saw from him was about geoengineering efforts to combat climate change.
Geminid
@Baud: A waking nightmare I sometimes have is that in 2032, after the U.S. institutes it’s first Presidential election by popular vote, Andrew Yang announces his candicacy. Everyone thinks it’s a joke until Yang appears, flanked by his Campaign Co-Chairmen: Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Heh.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Yang is not actually wealthy or successful in business. He just plays a character who appears to be wealthy and successful (and smart).
It’s all an act.
NotMax
@moops
Maybe he can corral Emo Philips into narrating the audio book. Or Ben Stein.
//
debbie
@Baud:
Well, that tweet said he’d failed at everything since law school, he’s deluded if he thinks he has a chance at the presidency, and he seems very self-centered. Close enough for the comparison, I think.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Ever since I moved there back in the late 1970s, I knew he (TFG) was a total ass. Nothing flaky about him; maliciousness and cruelty were his calling cards even then.
dm
I sort-of saw him as on a par with Pete Buttigieg during the Democratic primary — with an outsider’s ability to look at entrenched problems from a different angle, able to give decent answers to intelligent interviewers. The UBI was one thing, but it also sounded like he had ideas about how to engage the economies of left-behind parts of the country. Plus they both had a genial nerdishness that appeals to me.
The New York mayoral race eliminated that impression (plus Buttigieg seems to be doing a good job as Transportation Secretary and occasional venturer-into-the-lions’-den of Fox News, raising my estimate of hime considerably).
And this move pretty much wipes out any respect I have for him.
Nora Lenderbee
@moops: But pet videos are entertaining.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: Is there any evidence at all that Yang is nasty and/or vicious?
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
My post listed my comparisons. It’s close enough.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dm:
There was a big difference between Yang and Buttigieg, Buttigieg had run for, won, and served in public office; Yang had not.
Baud
I wonder of Marianne Williamson will join Yang’s new party.
Emmyelle
Why are we forced to take these people seriously?
Geminid
@debbie: Yang has a reactionary side that he was never tagged with during his Presidential run. When he was leading early on in the New York Mayoral primary, though, people started publishing receipts that damaged him among New York City Democrats.
Yang has no where to go in the Democratic party, so now he will undermine it from the outside. He won’t be the only one doing this.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: Sure, if you ignore the big, giant fundamental nature of Trump. I mean both Stalin and Judy Garland were bipedal mammals, but there were a few important differences.
Baud
@Emmyelle:
Because we can’t afford to lose any potentially gettable votes.
Omnes Omnibus
@Emmyelle:
We aren’t. I don’t. You shouldn’t either.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Interestingly, singing ability wasn’t one of them.
Captain C
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: A quick google search reveals his estimated net worth is between $800K and 3 million. Not bad, but even the higher end is not really enough to retire in NYC.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: I am not overly concerned about the 7 people who will follow Yang. They probably weren’t gettable.
debbie
@Baud:
Or ego or failure or maliciousness or cruelty. ??♀️
Gvg
I have no interest in anyone with no elected office wins who starts by running for really big offices. I don’t even really approve of Congress people with no prior offices.
in my lifetime, outsiders have all been bad.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud:
Joe being a very good alto really surprised a lot of people.
burnspbesq
I think the Jackaltariat owes Kevin Drum an apology for sending Monty the ClipArt Mongoose his way.
Sorry, Kev.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
At this point, he’s lost his luster. He had a bit of a sizable following during the primary.
eclare
@Omnes Omnibus: Hahaha…
Sanjeevs
Yang certainly had a troll army backing him from the time he ran for President. They even had a name for themselves – the Yang Gang.
So yeah never trusted him.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
“Brace yourself. He’s about to launch into On the Astrakhan, Pushinko and the Ishimbay. Again.”
debbie
The anti-vaxers seem to have ticked off Kurt Eichenwald (thread).
Chief Oshkosh
@SpaceUnit: I once had a teacher who said “there are no boring books, only something something something.” Can’t recall the rest; I got bored and tuned her out, she being an idiot and all…
artem1s
@piratedan:
How about Yang start a sane alternative to the GOP. You need a second party before you need a third one.
Cmorenc
Did yang also announce his prospective running mate Yin?
Ken
There’s a failsafe for that. The Seven Keyholders will gather, summon their awesome power, and revoke the DNS root key signature.
This will of course shut down the entire internet, throw the world into chaos, and possibly kill billions. But considering the alternative….
Ken
@debbie: When is a link not a link?
SpaceUnit
@Chief Oshkosh:
Andrew Yang: “Here, have a free copy of my book.”
Unsuspecting Person: “Okay, thanks. What’s it about?”
Andrew Yang: “It’s about me!”
Unsuspecting Person: “Oh God.”
debbie
@Ken:
That was weird. I think I unintentionally tried to add a link to a link. Fixed now.
Matt McIrvin
@piratedan: Without election system reform, in most parts of the US political system, third parties can only be spoilers that benefit their theoretical ideological enemies. Because of that fact, they attract low-quality trolls and grifters as candidates, because those are the people who either don’t care that they’re spoilers, actively want to be spoilers, or are willing to deny it.
Lyrebird
@Baud: Yeah, I was never a die hard, but I’m glad he got the UBI stuff talked about so much, and for our family in particular, seeing multiple serious Asian American candidates on that debate stage was pretty awesome.
Wish he’d go do something useful like raise megabucks for LeBron’s organization or defeating the CA recall instead of this nonsense.
piratedan
@artem1s: not arguing that point… but its pretty evident that fascists ruin everything.
Citizen_X
@Omnes Omnibus: Hey, Judy Garland stone-cold murdered the first person she met in Oz, which you gotta admit is a pretty Stalin move.
Ihop
If someone already noted this, apologies, but it seems to me he would lead off more once-republicans than ex-democrats.
A blithering sort of libertarian tech bro front runner that the republican party might be ill to lose.
Don’t see many democrats following him. Could just be wishful thinking though.
Uncle Cosmo
@mrmoshpotato: Don’t look now, Moshie, but there’s a shit-ton of ’em posting right on this blog. Jackals who duct-tape their political naivete to their foreheads & strut about as if they knew anything about it. And I include in that gaggle a whole passle of folks with heavy-hitting advanced degrees and sophisticated tastes who fucking well ought to know better.
Last cycle we were exceedingly fortunate that Rep. Clyburn and the clear-eyed pragmatic African-American women of South Carolina saved the Democratic Party (and the nation) from their ilk.
Best you can say about most of them is what Churchill was reputed to (but probably didn’t) say about “the Americans” – that they’ll always do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative.
hilts
@debbie:
My apologies, I’m not up to date on my acronyms. Can you identify TFG?
Moving forward, I suggest all blog posts, magazine/newspaper articles, or broadcast segments about this individual refer to him as Andrew Nothingburger.
Michael Cain
He’ll fail, badly. He’s not a dot the i’s and cross the t’s on the paperwork in 50 states kind of guy. He’s unlikely to attract that kind of people. The Libertarians have been at this for decades, and still regularly fail to finish the necessary paperwork to make all 50 ballots. Ross Perot has made by far the best showing in the last 30 years, getting almost 19% of the national vote, but he had built a big software company whose whole business model was, “Hire us because we know where the i’s and t’s are and we’ll dot/cross them for you.”
I find it interesting that since the Colorado Republicans have become much less competitive, they have recurring problems taking care of the i’s and t’s.
Omnes Omnibus
@Citizen_X: She was playing a part. Okay, so she was Method as fuck, but it was still just for the part.
Anne Laurie
Supporters of the second & third place finishers (K. Garcia & Maya Wiley) thought their candidates lost crucial votes to the ‘My vote must be *earned*’ hipster / techbros voting Yang, which gave the eventual right-wing winner his shot. Yang did not make himself popular with the NY media — outside of possible the NYTimes — and that won’t help his ‘third party, no
programlabels’ book tour.Roger Moore
@dm:
My take on Buttigieg is that he’s doing things the right way. He ran for a real office that was plausible for someone with his experience, built a record, and then ran for President more as a way of raising his profile than as a really serious candidate. It put him on the map enough to get him a cabinet post. If he does well there, it will put him in position to keep moving up. It’s a fairly standard way of building a career, even if he seems to have jumped a few rungs on the ladder along the way. The really talented people can do that. What he hasn’t done is try to jump straight to the top without any intermediate stops on the way.
Anne Laurie
For some reason, when I read this, I flashed back to a professor of higher mathematics proclaiming ‘Zero is not a number — it is a destination!’
Geminid
@Omnes Omnibus: The Lollipop Guild believed in Dorothy. And they weren’t just a bunch of suckers.
Roger Moore
@Citizen_X:
I’d love to see your evidence of mens rea.
Ken
@Citizen_X: And then she teamed up with three men to kill again.
Omnes Omnibus
@Geminid: If you don’t think that Big Cobblery bought them off, you are as naive as Uncle Cosmo’s insult comic act thinks you are.
Anoniminous
The last time a third party went anywhere was in the 1850s when the Whigs disintegrated over Slavery and the Republican Party slipped in. In a First Past the Post election system third parties are either an exercise in vanity, futility, or both.
debbie
@hilts:
That fucking guy = *rump.
stinger
@piratedan:
Not me. I want one (or two, or three, or seven) alternatives to the GOP. Split that vote into tiny shards, and let Democrats WIN. After that, we can really start moving in the right direction.
brantl
@SpaceUnit: Imagine being so bored you’d write a book about Andrew Yang, even if you were Andrew Yang!
Kent
Right. he’s not the male Jill Stein. He’s the male Marianne Williamson.
Anoniminous
@Omnes Omnibus:
Unlike Garland, Stalin was a terrible song-and-dance man. Ultimate reason he quit show business and moved into the psychopathically paranoid homicidal maniac business.
Kent
@Roger Moore: Buttigieg is actually both smart and talented. I’m not so sure about Yang on either count.
Another Scott
@Chief Oshkosh: She hadn’t read Hans Kung’s “Does God Exist”, obviously.
FTFNYT Review (from 1981):
Yeah, no. I don’t think so.
;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
gwangung
@Kent: HUGELY unimpressed with Yang when he was running for president.
His subsequent actions made my opinion go downwards.
Baud
@Anoniminous:
Today, he’d be a social media influencer.
Geminid
@Anne Laurie: I was interested to see that both New York City Congressmen Hakeem Jeffries and Greg Meeks endorsed Maya Wiley for Mayor, and both endorsed the winner, Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams as second choice. That may have made a difference in a close, ranked choice election.
One thing that struck me about that election was a poll that showed 54% of New York voters ranked violent crime as their number one concern. If this was true, Eric Adams may have won not because he was conservative so much as because he made combatting crime a central issue in his campaign. Starting next year he will have to deliver on this and other City problems.
brantl
@burnspbesq: Dish, what happened?
Kent
I’m not a Yang fan, but seriously. Those weren’t THEIR votes anyway. Their votes are the ones they got. Arguably Garcia and Wiley took each other out. And, in any event, Adams is hardly a right winger. In the state legislature he was one of the early advocates for marriage equality and an early opponent of “stop and frisk” and serious advocate of gun control. He might not be everyone’s cup of tea. But he is a mainstream Democrat.
Anoniminous
@Another Scott:
Hans Kung would have been a good show name for a gay pole dancer in San Francisco in 1977.
Mike in NC
We were eager to get out of DC this morning. Left Crystal City early when the cacophony of sirens, jackhammers, and blaring horns got started. Fought our way through rush hour traffic to get to National Airport, where we had a 9 AM flight home. It was reported there was a mechanical problem with the plane sitting in Bangor, so it got delayed to 11:15, then delayed again three more times. Then we got sent to a different gate clear across the airport. Finally lifted off at 3:10, but when the plane landed we sat on the tarmac for a full hour because there was no gate ready to take off passengers and luggage. Arrrrgh!
Feckless
Most of the members of the 2020 democratic debates clown car are self righteous idiots who should be shunned for diluting our message.
Geminid
@Anoniminous: The American Party, also known as the “Know Nothings,” recognized this and dissolved itself in 1860. Most members joined the new Republican Party, which is still a congenial haven for their descendents.
SpaceUnit
@brantl: I guess it’s like the Dunning Kruger Effect. Boring people don’t realize they’re boring. The Yang Effect.
Another Scott
@Roger Moore: Mayor Pete annoyed me as a candidate. How may votes did he get to be Mayor? 10,000?? Yes, he’s talented and smart and a good guy. And being in Indiana, he really didn’t have many other offices he could immediately move into after Mayor. But it was a hell of a lot of hubris to go after the big chair. His debate answers often annoyed me, being too polished and lacking substance (IMHO).
I’m very glad Biden put him in his cabinet. He’s doing well there. I hope he continues to grow and hope he has a future in politics.
We’ve got lots of talented young people working in the trenches (Beto, etc.) to build the party and build up the grass roots. I hope that Pete isn’t afraid to work like that if he wants to return to elected office. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with staying a bureaucrat/technocrat too, if he’d rather do that.
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
@Baud:
She will appear, briefly and semitransparent, above his left shoulder during his next campaign announcement. Duration unknown.
Anoniminous
@Geminid:
The Socialist Party of America had a long tradition of splitting with members joining the Democrats until the whole thing collapsed into apathy.
trollhattan
@Roger Moore:
More domus florra, amirite?
zhena gogolia
@debbie:
Maybe “flaky” isn’t the word. Ludicrous?
brantl
@Uncle Cosmo: Please, please, PLEASE, just go fuck yourself, would you? You really are an obnoxious tit.
JPL
@zhena gogolia: How about obnoxious pig.
JPL
Christie and Yang should bring their show on the road. They could toss a coin to see which one is the opening act.
zhena gogolia
@Matt McIrvin: Well said.
zhena gogolia
@Kent:
Thank you. I was puzzled by that analysis.
Uncle Cosmo
Truth hurts, doesn’t it, Oh-Oh?
Just One More Canuck
@Baud: “Stalin Sings Gershwin”
CaseyL
Open thread, so I’m going to rant a little bit about things other than politics:
At my townhouse complex, we are re-roofing all the buildings. AND we are having a bunch of “trouble” trees removed. All the crews were here at the same time. Crane, buzz saws, chain saws, wood chippers. Hammering and sawing and thumping around on the roof. Cacaphony – and, no, I couldn’t just close all my doors and windows because the place would turn into a hothouse if I did. It is now Friday evening, and we hopefully, mercifully, have a weekend of comparative peace and quiet.
Also – my cat Oscar is sick. He has vomited foam a few times and is hiding under the bed, so miserable that he doesn’t even want me there for comfort/commiseration. This is two days after I ran Jeannie into the emergency vet because her arthritis was acting up (they sent me home with an NSAID that has made a HUGE difference, so that’s good.)
I’m a little frantic with worry for Oscar. He hardly ever gets sick, but when he does it’s usually something serious. He’s got until tomorrow to show signs of improvement, or it’s off to the Animal ER for him, too.
Helluva week. Looking forward to an anxiety-ridden weekend, watching Oscar.
Ack.
/rant
debbie
@Mike in NC:
Well, that all makes for a long day.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Oh, he was so annoying. “The Donald” got himself in the news practically every day, usually by saying something outrageous or offensive. Ludicrous is much closer.
hilts
@debbie:
Thanks.
Kristine
@CaseyL: Fingers crossed for Oscar.
patrick II
@debbie:
Everyone is a smarter less cruel version of TFG.
Steeplejack (phone)
@hilts:
It’s “the former guy,” per Biden in February, and it immediately caught on.
mrmoshpotato
@brantl: The pie filter is good, but a bag of unseasoned dicks filter would be better.
Steeplejack (phone)
Pretty good song: Tennis, “Borrowed Time.”
eclare
@CaseyL: I hope Oscar feels better!
prostratedragon
@Another Scott:
If only I’d got more media coverage when I shouted precisely this from a rooftop years ago when tfg got that tv show.
@NotMax: And not only Ms. Garland.
Gravenstone
@burnspbesq: If we tell Drum about the Pie Filter, that should about square us.
RedDirtGirl
@CaseyL: Sorry to hear that things are so stressful for you. I hope Saturday brings better things.
Steeplejack (phone)
American Psycho remix.
James E Powell
@Geminid:
Turn that nightmare into a dream by adding ” . . . and then a meteor appeared.”
James E Powell
@Geminid:
The thing is, we only met the Guild’s representatives. We never met the real power in the Guild. Imagine a really small Lee J. Cobb.
James E Powell
@Another Scott:
I felt the same way, but have totally forgiven him because he is a team player who is helping his president to be more successful.
James E Powell
@burnspbesq:
I’ve been reading this blog every day for many years and I have no idea who that is.
Kay
All the Trumpsters are screaming at DeWine on Twitter. I admit, I enjoy that.
Ken
@Steeplejack (phone): I suggest adding TFG to the Lexicon.
Lyrebird
@James E Powell:
Is a recent commenter with a DougJ-like flair for saying outre stuff. I can’t tell satire from serious in what Mongoose has said so far, not my strong suit.
James E Powell
@Kay:
Fuck DeWine. Too many people want to soap him up because he’s not Trump. But he worked to keep Trump in the White House and even knowing everything he knows now, he would do it all over again.
debbie
@Kay:
He doesn’t support the mask mandate, so they should be happy.
mrmoshpotato
@debbie:
What are they yelling about then?
Another Scott
@James E Powell: “MontyTheClipArtMongoose”
It looks like his most recent post here was in the Garland thread on 9/6.
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Lyrebird:
Don’t insult DougJ! Monty hasn’t been close to that good. Usually he’s semi-coherent at best.
Ken
@Kay: What did DeWine do to enrage them?
Er, sorry. What did DeWine do to direct their neverending rage at him?
LivinginExile
@CaseyL: Maybe all the racket outside traumatized oscar.
surfk9
@Steeplejack (phone): I’ve been reading Kevin since the early 2000’s and he has some of the worst trolls in his comment section. I think he can handle Monty.
CaseyL
@LivinginExile: I thought of that, but I’m not sure it would make him vomit. Run and hide, yes; vomit, no. ?
NotMax
With friends like these….
Giuliani Pal Admits To Soliciting Foreign Money For U.S Political Campaigns
frosty
Your odyssey sounds like no fun at all. But console yourself, at least you weren’t at O’Hare. “Clear across the airport” at National is at least feasible.
joel hanes
@Lyrebird:
The clipart guy has had a very long commenting career at Drum’s blogs and at Washington Monthly’s Political Animal blog. He’s gone through a series of nyms; several of them contain the word “clipart”, and those are the only ones I know for sure are him. Was once something like “NationalGalleryOfClipArt”
His schtick has gradually gotten more bitter and more sarcastic.
Ruckus
@debbie:
I was thinking the same thing as Baud but then I realized that he’s earned that – the hard way. And he is, at least on the surface, less cruel and possibly a bit less selfish. After all he’s just trying to find his way in life, to find something he’s actually good at, which would be a nice thing to find, at his age.
The smarter part though, what electron microscope did you use to find that smarter part? Has he actually been any more successful than TFG? He is younger and hasn’t had as much time to screw up as much but his record so far really doesn’t look a lot better. I mean give him time, when he hits the same age as TFG is when we pretend to have another reckoning about his smarts and achievements.
Geminid
Speaking of NYC Mayoral nominee Eric Adams, he will appear Monday at a fundraiser for Val Demings, candidate for Marco Rubio’s Senate seat.
Morzer
“It’s my party and I’ll quit if I want to, quit if I want to… “
Morzer
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: Andrew Yang is a tech-futurist who knows nothing about tech and doesn’t have a future either.