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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Friday / Saturday, Sept. 10-11

COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Friday / Saturday, Sept. 10-11

by Anne Laurie|  September 11, 20215:39 am| 43 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Foreign Affairs

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"What is best in life?"

"To crush the horsepaste enthusiasts, to see them driven before you, and to see the vaccinations of their families."

— Scott Cave, Ea-Nasir Customer Care Team (@cuevasflechado) September 10, 2021

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine could get emergency use authorization in U.S. for children 5-11 years old in October, sources say https://t.co/Iz1WeeDtpm pic.twitter.com/CoccE78llc

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 10, 2021


U.S. FDA may authorize COVID-19 vaccine for kids based on two months of safety data https://t.co/JJv0SIoPIk pic.twitter.com/KzJ4MDnLD7

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 10, 2021

U.S. heath regulators said children in clinical trials testing COVID-19 vaccines should be monitored for at least two months for side effects, suggesting that the agency is considering a quicker path to authorize the shot for emergency use than full approval.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Friday it was looking to complete the data review as quickly as possible, likely in a matter of weeks rather than months…

The agency is under pressure to approve a vaccine for children below 12 years of age amid a surge in infections fueled by the spread of the Delta coronavirus variant, which has disrupted the reopening of schools…

Pfizer said it expects to report data needed for approval in five and 11 year olds sometime this month and could potentially submit an application for emergency use shortly after. The drugmaker said data for kids aged two and under five could arrive soon after.

For children between six months and two years, Pfizer has said it could have a safety and immunogenicity data as early as October or November.

Moderna on Thursday said it has fully enrolled participants in a trial testing its shot in children between six and 11 years and that it was still conducting dose selection studies for younger age groups.

The US administered 948,000 vaccine shots today, bringing the total to 379 million, or 114.0 doses per 100 people. The 7-day moving average has been declining over the past several days down to 722,000 shots per day. pic.twitter.com/LTYaMIipZI

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) September 11, 2021

U.S. COVID-19 cases average 136,000 per day, daily deaths above 1,000 – CDC director https://t.co/4eQEjVWmVC pic.twitter.com/vwkxHy0KEo

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 10, 2021

A few cheers, many worries among U.S. businesses facing COVID-19 vaccine, test mandate https://t.co/6iDbRuDyNt pic.twitter.com/c0BTkH3cwz

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 10, 2021

The US had +171,125 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Thursday, bringing the total to over 41.7 million. The 7-day moving average declined to 145,553 new cases per day. pic.twitter.com/nAwnQaz97l

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) September 11, 2021

Breaking News: Unvaccinated Americans are 11 times more likely to die of Covid, the CDC reported, among other data showing vaccines’ protection from severe cases. https://t.co/CljUKXa3E3

— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 10, 2021

The US had +1,761 new coronavirus deaths on Thursday, bringing the total to 677,017. The 7-day moving average rose back to 1,378 deaths per day. pic.twitter.com/tI2x95cTRX

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) September 11, 2021

Coronavirus infections are >10x higher than they need to be in order to end the pandemic, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top US infectious disease doctor says. There are roughly 150k new infections a day in the US. “That’s not even modestly good control,” he said https://t.co/XlgWw6x1Pr

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) September 10, 2021

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After over a year of confinement, Singapore looks to ease coronavirus restrictions on migrant laborers https://t.co/EXYLCFTzxp

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 10, 2021

Australia's Queensland state warns of possible COVID-19 lockdown https://t.co/BFkYrQk5qq pic.twitter.com/1l8j930F0a

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 11, 2021

They risked their lives on the covid frontline. Now France has made 12,000 of them citizens. https://t.co/u8CKEi0xsx

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 10, 2021

Denmark lifts all coronavirus restrictions and celebrates “a whole new era” https://t.co/CCecR3NRLt

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 10, 2021

90% of adults in Republic of Ireland now fully vaccinated
https://t.co/4SUpk0sPBH

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) September 10, 2021

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COVID-19 vaccines hold strong against Delta, protection waning in older adults https://t.co/2faYy6zfMe pic.twitter.com/gXzyFsqc1A

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 10, 2021

Three U.S. studies suggest COVID-19 vaccines offer strong protection against hospitalization and death, even in the face of the highly transmissible Delta variant, but vaccine protection appears to be waning among older populations, especially among those 75 and older…

In that study of more than 32,000 visits to urgent care centers, emergency rooms and hospitals, Moderna’s vaccine was 95% effective at preventing hospitalization compared with 80% for Pfizer and 60% for J&J.

Overall, the findings, released on Friday in the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s weekly report on death and disease show that vaccines continue to offer strong protection from COVID-19.

In the lab: New Covid vaccines in development are grown in plants and bacteria and don't require refrigeration. Nanoengineers at UC San Diego are working on vaccine candidates that can take the heat https://t.co/Kdutui5NEx pic.twitter.com/RZdVXSubPA

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) September 10, 2021

New Thai device tests for coronavirus in armpit sweat. Development of the screening device grew out of research at Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University. It was tested on shopkeepers at a Bangkok market this week. Researchers say the device is 95% accurate https://t.co/QomnGVtMpb

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) September 10, 2021

Perspective | We conducted the largest study on masks and covid-19: They work https://t.co/PuTkEB1hez

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 9, 2021

Novavax expects to make available at least 2 bln COVID-19 vaccine doses in 2022 https://t.co/sNIqbuI562 pic.twitter.com/1JeWSRSl8q

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 11, 2021

As the debate rags about whether #Covid19 vaccine boosters are actually needed at this point, @statnews readers weigh in with their thoughts. https://t.co/bnEm81UoOY

— Helen Branswell (@HelenBranswell) September 10, 2021

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Senior Democratic senators are pressing Medicare to make nursing home COVID-19 vaccination rates easily accessible on its website for consumers. The senators cited an Associated Press report on outbreaks attributed to unvaccinated staff. https://t.co/kqCzdwvEr4

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 10, 2021

The mainstream media needs to start covering these Indigenous success stories, to show the rest of the country what’s possible when a nation comes together — and puts the health of the community— above divisive partisan politics.

— Lakota Man (@LakotaMan1) September 10, 2021

This is the lady who was crying that there was nothing she could do about the unvaccinated in her state and the COVID wave they were causing.

Now Biden's doing something about it and she's like "oh no you don't."

The GOP is a #DeathCult https://t.co/OVtxz8scon

— Roy Edroso (@edroso) September 11, 2021

Court rules for Florida governor, reinstates ban on mask mandates in state's schools https://t.co/XGgy5MpBsV pic.twitter.com/teOayuNhCa

— Reuters (@Reuters) September 11, 2021

Seattle's electric utility had been braced for an "orchestrated" wave of people calling in sick to protest a new COVID-19 vaccine mandate for city workers, but only two out of 250 actually did, @seattletimes reports: https://t.co/oXTrlLSjBv

— Laura J. Nelson ?? (@laura_nelson) September 10, 2021

Liberty University returns to in-person classes, with hundreds of new covid cases https://t.co/OugZqoZL6I

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 11, 2021

Don’t tell students if their classmates get coronavirus, University of Delaware warns faculty https://t.co/ceWPsqcMZY

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 9, 2021

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  1. 1.

    NeenerNeener

    September 11, 2021 at 6:01 am

    Monroe County, NY:

    NYS Dept of Health says 205 new cases for 9/9; the Monroe County site says 231. Holy crap!

    Another reason for panic, I have 2 nieces and a nephew going to Liberty right now (don’t ask).

  2. 2.

    Baud

    September 11, 2021 at 6:20 am

    VE (Vaccine effectiveness) was highest among Moderna vaccine recipients (92%), followed by Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients (77%), and was lowest (65%) for Janssen vaccine recipients (Table).

  3. 3.

    YY_Sima Qian

    September 11, 2021 at 6:23 am

    On 9/10 China reported 1 new domestic confirmed cases & 5 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    Guangzhou in Guangdong Province reported 1 new domestic asymptomatic case, a traced close contact already under centralized quarantine since 9/4. There currently are 3 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city, all associated w/ leak at a quarantine hotel for overseas arrivals.

    Putian in Fujian Province reported 1 new domestic confirmed & 4 new domestic asymptomatic cases. The 2 initial cases were identified during screening of all elementary school pupils returning to school. Contact tracing have uncovered further 4 cases so far, another pupil & 3 parents. One of the parents had returned from Singapore on 8/4, lading at Xiamen, passed through the 14 days of centralized quarantine. Upon release from quarantine on 8/19 the case returned to Putian via high speed rail & re-entered 7 days of centralized quarantine, & tested negative 3 more times. The case returned home on 8/26, it is unclear if there further home quarantine. The case is deemed an imported confirmed case, though it has been 40 days since entry into China. 5 villages are under lock down & 3 villages have been designated as Medium Risk.

    Yunnan Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 8 active domestic confirmed & 1 domestic asymptomatic cases there. 1 village in Ruili remains at Medium Risk. 

    Jiangsu Province did not report any new positive confirmed cases. 3 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There are currently 4 active domestic confirmed cases in the province.

    • At Nanjing there currently are 2 active domestic confirmed (both moderate) cases.
    • At Yangzhou 3 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 2 active domestic confirmed cases (both moderate) in the city.

    Hunan Province did not reported any new domestic positive cases. 3 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There are currently are 57 active domestic confirmed & 1 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.

    • At Xiangtan there currently is 1 domestic asymptomatic case.
    • At Zhuzhou 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 6 active domestic confirmed cases.
    • At Zhangjiajie 2 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 51 active domestic confirmed cases in the city.

    Henan Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. 5 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 22 active domestic confirmed cases in the province.

    • At Zhengzhou 5 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 10 active domestic confirmed cases.
    • At Shangqiu there currently are 12 active domestic confirmed cases.

    Hubei Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. 5 domestic confirmed case recovered & 1 domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation. There currently are 20 active domestic confirmed (9 mild & 11 moderate) & 14 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the province.

    • At Huanggang there currently are 1 active domestic confirmed & 1 active domestic asymptomatic cases.
    • At Jingzhou there currently is 1 active domestic confirmed case.
    • At Jingmen 2 domestic confirmed cases recovered & 1 domestic asymptomatic case was released from isolation. There are currently 11 active domestic confirmed & 5 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city.
    • At Wuhan 2 domestic confirmed cases recovered. There currently are 7 active domestic confirmed & 8 active domestic asymptomatic cases in the city.
    • At Ezhou the domestic confirmed case recovered.

    Shanghai Municipality did not report any new domestic positive cases. 1 domestic confirmed case recovered. There currently are 7 active domestic confirmed cases in the city.

    Imported Cases

    On 9/10, China reported 24 new imported confirmed cases (5 previously asymptomatic), 16 imported asymptomatic cases, 2 imported suspect cases:

    • Yunnan Province (locations not specified) – 13 confirmed cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Myanmar; 5 asymptomatic cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from Laos & 2 from Myanmar; all via land border crossings
    • Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 3 confirmed (2 previously asymptomatic) & 1 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Shanghai Municipality – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the UK (via Paris CdG) & Argentina (via Frankfurt); 2 suspect cases, no information released
    • Putian jn Fujian Province – 2 confirmed case, 1 Chinese national each returning from Cameroon & Singapore; the case from Singapore was identified via contact tracing of domestic cases, having already gone through 21 days of centralized quarantine; no information released yet for the case from Cameroon
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese crew members off a cargo ship w/ last port of call in Indonesia
    • Foshan in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), coming from Turkmenistan; 1 asymptomatic case, 1 each coming from Nigeria & Turkmenistan, off flights that landed at Guangzhou
    • Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national coming from Kenya (via Jakarta)
    • Taiyuan in Shanxi Province – 1 confirmed & 3 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese national returning from Thailand; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Algeria
    • Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province – 3 asymptomatic cases, 1 each coming from Egypt, Surinam & Per
    • Wuhan in Hubei Province – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from Singapore

    Overall in China, 50 confirmed cases recovered (30 imported), 19 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation (18 imported) & 5 were reclassified as confirmed cases (all imported), & 1,197 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 731 active confirmed cases in the country (606 imported), 7 in serious condition (all imported), 371 active asymptomatic cases (345 imported), 3 suspect cases (all imported). 12,090 traced contacts are currently under centralized quarantine.

    As of 9/10, 2,135.24M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 5.407M doses in the past 24 hrs.

    On 9/11, Hong Kong report 4 new positive cases, all imported (from Canada, Japan, the Philippines & the UAE, all had been fully vaccinated). 

  4. 4.

    Cermet

    September 11, 2021 at 6:50 am

    While anyone still needing a covid shot should first and foremost get that started and finished, getting the flu vaccination is now essential for all of us covid vaccinated people; besides making your immune system stronger the very last thing you would want is end up in the hospital with a flu related/caused infection in your lungs among all those stupid shelf inflected covid victims.

    I intend to get my in the next couple days now that I know its available.

  5. 5.

    germy

    September 11, 2021 at 7:05 am

    Oh, here's Lara Logan sharing the imaginary story from the website that says Tom Hanks was executed by the military. pic.twitter.com/Wq7qdG4ubb— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 10, 2021

  6. 6.

    Baud

    September 11, 2021 at 7:08 am

    @germy:

    About damn time.

  7. 7.

    sab

    September 11, 2021 at 7:15 am

    @germy: Am I misreading her tweet ( the underlying facts, not her intentions)? It seems to me that 27 fewer anti-vax officers in the Air Force is a good thing.

  8. 8.

    WereBear

    September 11, 2021 at 7:18 am

    @Baud: Puts an ironic spin on all those Pfizer snobs bragging.

    Says she of House Moderna :)

  9. 9.

    germy

    September 11, 2021 at 7:20 am

    @sab:

    She retweeted a hoax video.  There were no resignations.

  10. 10.

    germy

    September 11, 2021 at 7:24 am

    @sab:

    Note to Lara Logan:

    The Defense Secretary didn’t send a text to the whole military. Pilots didn’t quit en masse. The Air Force is making people get vaxxed by early November, not 10 am. Don’t get your news from bodybuilder monologues or sites that say Tom Hanks was executed. https://t.co/63PMfKzBOM— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 11, 2021

  11. 11.

    sab

    September 11, 2021 at 7:36 am

    @germy: Now I understand.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 11, 2021 at 7:37 am

    @Cermet: We had this discussion last year on the timing of getting the flu shot. Iirc, it was best to wait till after Oct 1st.

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    September 11, 2021 at 7:37 am

    Malaysia’s Ministry of Health reports 19,550 new Covid-19 cases today in its media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 1,960,500 cases. It also reports 341 new deaths today, for a cumulative total of 19,827 deaths – 1.02% of the cumulative reported total, 1.17% of resolved cases.

    There are currently 242,161 active and contagious cases. 1,247, including 936 confirmed cases, are in ICU; 667 of them, including 453 confirmed cases, are on ventilators. Meanwhile, 21,771 more patients have recovered, for a cumulative total of 1,700,733 patients recovered – 86.7% of the cumulative reported total.

    28 new clusters were reported today, for a cumulative total of 5,087 clusters. 1,446 clusters are currently active; 3,641 clusters are now inactive.

    21,172 new cases today are local infections. Sarawak reports 3,743 cases.

    Selangor reports 2,416 cases. Johor reports 2,282 cases. Sabah reports 2,163 cases.

    Penang reports 1,865 cases. Kedah reports 1,390 cases. Perak reports 1,354 cases. Kelantan reports 1,320 cases.

    Terengganu reports 953 cases.

    Pahang reports 722 cases.

    Melaka reports 490 cases.

    Negeri Sembilan reports 198 cases.

    Perlis reports 73 cases. Putrajaya reports 24 cases. Labuan reports two cases.

    Seven new cases today are imported.

    I know this is incomplete compared to what I normally report. The Ministry of Health has neglected today to post a complete set of information.

  14. 14.

    dr. bloor

    September 11, 2021 at 7:42 am

    @Baud:

    Indeed. The only suitable punishment for Bonfire of the Vanities.

  15. 15.

    Nicole

    September 11, 2021 at 7:43 am

    @Cermet: Excellent reminder about the flu vaccine!  And yeah, now is approaching the prime time to do it, so the antibodies peak at about the peak of the flu season.  Recommendation is to get it in September or October. ETA- as OzarkHillbilly said, October is ideal, but September is okay.  Older folks probably should wait until October.

    And oh, I’m so hopeful about the EUA coming sooner than November for the Pfizer vaccine for kids!  I had a long “discussion” with a fellow parent at my kid’s school who is objecting to the vaccine requirement of all eligible students.  Her family had Covid, so her objection is that they don’t need it (she quoted the Cleveland Clinic study from last year to me).  It was frustrating, especially when she started talking about “super antibodies.”  She insisted she wasn’t anti-vax, but then also brought up the HPV vaccine and I thought, “Ah, there it is.”

    (FWIW, the Cleveland Clinic ran a study that showed a group of health care workers who had had Covid but did not follow up with vaccination did not catch Covid again during the 5 month study.  They put out a follow-up statement saying they recommended all eligible people get vaccinated as their study was done before the rise of Delta. But I had to google this after I got home because I’d not heard of the Cleveland study.  It’s like the arcade game, batting gophers, with anti-vax folk’s reasoning- they just keep popping up new “facts” until you’re exhausted).

  16. 16.

    sab

    September 11, 2021 at 7:43 am

    How did Lara Logan ever get to the front of the line on US immigration? What skills does she have that thousands of US citizen journalist wannabes don’t have?

  17. 17.

    New Deal democrat

    September 11, 2021 at 7:47 am

    Some really good news, I think. It’s increasingly likely that the Delta wave peaked one week ago. Most impressively, CA has been on a downward slope for 2 weeks, and at roughly 20 new cases per 100,000 is on par with the Northeast and Midatlantic. Which is the other good news: with the exception of PA, the Delta wave also looks like it has peaked in these heavily vaccinated States as well, at low levels equivalent to the best levels NYS had last year. And also noteworthy: in the earliest hard hit States of the Deep South, new cases now dropping precipitously.

    It looks like Delta has burned through the dry tinder.

    What comes next is complicated, but I think we can appreciate a little good news today.

  18. 18.

    Mousebumples

    September 11, 2021 at 7:52 am

    Thanks for the info on childhood vaccine updates. My coworker (with an 11 yo with asthma) appreciates any news I can pass along. And I’m anxiously waiting for the 2yo approval. We’re hoping to go to AZ in November for my MIL’s birthday, and would prefer to get her vaccinated first since mask usage is not perfected yet. (working on it…)

  19. 19.

    Amir Khalid

    September 11, 2021 at 7:57 am

    @dr. bloor:
    We should blame Tom Wolfe for The Bonfire of The Vanities before we blame anyone else. There was just no way to make a decent movie out of that hot mess of a novel.

  20. 20.

    Nicole

    September 11, 2021 at 8:02 am

    @Amir Khalid: I hold much more resentment for Forrest Gump, which was a hilariously funny novel turned into a slut-shaming weepfest of a movie.

  21. 21.

    Ken

    September 11, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @New Deal democrat: t looks like Delta has burned through the dry tinder.

    Not nice for the dry tinder, though, even if largely self-selected.  I’m reminded of an episode of WKRP where someone says “We’ll just have to <X> and let the chips fall where they may,” and Johnny says “Wait — I’m the chips!”

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    September 11, 2021 at 8:21 am

    9 days until the September 20 booster opening.

    The booster shot isn’t the question.

    Can we mix shots is the booster question.

     

    Can Team Pfizer get a booster from the House of Moderna??

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    September 11, 2021 at 8:22 am

    ?????? for an

    October 1st children Pfizer decision

    5-11 would be a great start

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    September 11, 2021 at 8:25 am

    @Cermet:

    How many weeks between A COVID SHOT and the FLU SHOT should be taken?

  25. 25.

    Scout211

    September 11, 2021 at 8:35 am

    @rikyrah:

    How many weeks between A COVID SHOT and the FLU SHOT should be taken?

    CDC guidelines

    Although data are not available for COVID-19 vaccines administered simultaneously with other vaccines, extensive experience with non-COVID-19 vaccines has demonstrated that immunogenicity and adverse event profiles are generally similar when vaccines are administered simultaneously as when they are administered alone. COVID-19 vaccines were previously recommended to be administered alone, with a minimum interval of 14 days before or after administration of any other vaccines. This was out of an abundance of caution during a period when these vaccines were new and not due to any known safety or immunogenicity concerns. However, substantial data have now been collected regarding the safety of COVID-19 vaccines currently approved or authorized by FDA.

    COVID-19 vaccines may now be administered without regard to timing of other vaccines. This includes simultaneous administration of COVID-19 vaccine and other vaccines on the same day, as well as coadministration within 14 days. It is unknown whether reactogenicity of COVID-19 vaccine is increased with coadministration, including with other vaccines known to be more reactogenic, such as adjuvanted vaccines or live vaccines. When deciding whether to coadminister an(other) vaccine(s) with a COVID-19 vaccine, vaccination providers should consider whether the patient is behind or at risk of becoming behind on recommended vaccines, their risk of vaccine-preventable disease (e.g., during an outbreak or occupational exposures), and the reactogenicity profile of the vaccines.

  26. 26.

    New Deal democrat

    September 11, 2021 at 8:38 am

    @Ken:Not nice for the dry tinder, though.

     

    I understand. I just figure we could use a little bit of grounds for optimism among all the DOOOM. Vaccination works! The Northeastern States can be proud of themselves.

  27. 27.

    Robert Sneddon

    September 11, 2021 at 9:16 am

    Scotland — There were 4,298 new cases of COVID-19 yesterday (Friday) with ten new reported deaths of someone who had tested positive. Test positivity rate is 10.9%. ICU bed occupancy numbers are 83, up one from yesterday while hospitalisations for COVID-19 related illnesses are 985, up eight.

    There were about 9,300 vaccinations carried out in Scotland yesterday with about 25% of them first-doses. This brings the total in the adult (16+) population to 90.7% first-dose and 82.9% fully vaccinated. The first-dose vaccination rate for 16 and 17-year-olds is now 61.8%.

    There’s still no decision on whether to offer vaccinations to 12-15 year olds, based on the JCVI advice that the medical benefits and downsides are about equal. If it can be shown that COVID-19 is spreading widely at schools this may prompt a change in thinking by the chief medical officers in the four devolved health services, the ones who have the final say. There’s a good explanation about this on the BBC website here.

  28. 28.

    Sloane Ranger

    September 11, 2021 at 9:20 am

    Friday in the UK we had 37,622 new cases. This is an increase of 11.5% in the rolling 7-day average. New cases by nation,

    England – 26,653 (down 396)

    Northern Ireland – 1687 (down 144)

    Scotland – 6815 (down 21)

    Wales – 2467 (up 170).

    Deaths – There were 147 deaths within 28 days of a positive test yesterday. This is an increase in the rolling 7-day average of 18.7%. 114 deaths were in England, 6 in Northern Ireland, 22 in Scotland and 5 in Wales.

    Testing – 1,241,334 tests took place on Thursday, 9 September. This is an increase in the rolling 7-day average of 31.3%. The PCR testing capacity reported by labs on the date was 762,132.

    Hospitalisations – On Wednesday, 8 September there were 8098 people in hospital and 1060 people on ventilators. The rolling 7-day average for hospital admissions was up by 3.6% as of 6 September.

    Vaccinations – As of Thursday, 9 September, 48,370,340 people had received 1 shot of a vaccine and 43,805,608 had received both. This means that, as at that date, 89% of all UK residents aged 16+ have had 1 shot and 80.6% were fully vaccinated.

  29. 29.

    Another Scott

    September 11, 2021 at 9:31 am

    @Baud: From your link:

    Among adults hospitalized with COVID-19–like illness (14,636; median patient age = 65 years, interquartile range [IQR] = 48–77 years), laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections were identified among 18.9% (1,316 of 6,960) of unvaccinated and 3.1% (235 of 7,676) of fully vaccinated patients. Overall, VE against COVID-19 hospitalization was 86% (95% CI = 82%–89%). VE was significantly lower among adults aged ≥75 years (76%) than among those aged 18–74 years (89%) (Table). The difference in VE point estimates between age groups was similar for Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines. Across all ages, VE was significantly higher among Moderna vaccine recipients (95%) than among Pfizer-BioNTech (80%) or Janssen (60%) vaccine recipients.

    (Emphasis added.)

    1. Get vaccinated with any available vaccine.

    2. Especially if you’re over 75, get vaccinated.

    3. Don’t get Delta. Get vaccinated.

    4. COVID-like symptoms can often (80% of the time) be something else. Get vaccinated.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  30. 30.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 11, 2021 at 9:52 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Thanks, I was about to go into a long, involved question about that. October is what I thought I remembered.

  31. 31.

    Cermet

    September 11, 2021 at 10:44 am

    As for timing between Covid and Flu, both virus are bad but Covid – esp. for older (>30) can be very bad; interestingly, flu is much more dangerous for <13 than Covid. But I’d wait two weeks after the last covid vaccine before getting the flu vaccine (personally not based on medical results.) For all we know, Covid + flu (same day or so) vaccines equal greater protection against one or both illnesses. But ALWAYS get the Covid if you need it regardless of any flu vaccine – don’t wait. I got a double vaccine (a flu and tetanus vaccines) and suffered terribly – very sore arm for over a year and a half, and almost unusable due to extreme pain for 6 months (has never fully recovered and still can’t sleep on that arm) – nearly put me in the hospital I got so ill, too – baffled why; maybe a contaminated batch. MD’s (including specialist) were at a lost, as well. So, I am warry about double vaccines but I am still getting the flu vaccine this weekend (but singular).

  32. 32.

    VOR

    September 11, 2021 at 10:57 am

    I had a thought the other day that much of anti-masking and vaccine hesitancy is a question of whether you treat COVID as a serious threat or not. My view back in early 2020 was that COVID is the equivalent of a war. A big war, like WW2, where everyone has to sacrifice and which requires a sustained national effort. The medical community worldwide mobilized. Doctors and nurses in the field worked their asses off, with too little support. Researchers put work into overdrive and delivered several amazingly effective vaccines in record time. Back in March 2020 I couldn’t find masks anywhere, now you can buy them practically everywhere, from Home Depot to a corner gas station.

    But some people don’t see it as a serious issue. The virus only kills 0.1%, or only kills people with pre-existing problems, or they are exaggerating the deaths.  Masks are useless or overrated. Not serious enough to sacrifice going to the bar, dining out, or require changing behavior.

    And a lot of this is just plain conspiracy thinking. The libs are hyping this because they hate Trump. Or hate the economy. Or they want to control the population. Something.

    One of the key things different is we had a leader, TFG, who encouraged the conspiracies. His narcissism meant he focused on himself rather than others. Somehow, a global pandemic was all about him and millions of deaths worldwide less important than his daily appearances on TV. He was supported by media organizations who also knowingly spread mis-information. People viewed short-term political gain as more important than the health of the entire community.

    I have a co-worker who is rabidly devoted to Fox News and all the mis-information. He has consistently claimed COVID is all a hoax, a “plandemic”, no worse than a minor cold. Now he and his immediate family have COVID. One of his friends is in the ICU. Now he’s saying “every day has been a ride. it is the weirdest virus ever, turns and twists every day, not sure when I will be out of the woods”. Yes, exactly. That’s why the people who took COVID seriously have been worried about the epidemic.

    I hope he and his family recover. But I don’t know if he can make the conceptual leap to questioning the people and institutions who have consistently lied to him about COVID, the people who did not take COVID seriously.

  33. 33.

    J R in WV

    September 11, 2021 at 11:09 am

    Local (next door county) Health Dept had a large batch of vaccines that were about to expire. So they opened up for third vaccinations as well as first or second shots for all comers. They were able to look up our first two shots in the state database. In and out in 20 minutes or so. Volunteer EMTs ask which vaccine, came back with a loaded syringe, alcohol wipe and tiny bandaid.

    Week ago last Friday. Have heard they got some static from know-nothings about should have shipped those shots to somewhere else that needed it more than we needed it, CDC-FDA haven’t allowed 3rd shots yet, etc, etc.

    People, it IS a fuckin’ PLAGUE — perhaps we should be a little bit willing to tweak/bend regs to get shots in arms? Maybe? Treat it as a plague that it is, instead of saying it is almost like a plague. No sweetie, it IS a Plague!!!

    I’m thinking too much “These are the regs!” and “We have a SOP we MUST follow!” and not enough get with it gumption at the FDA and the CDC when it is a real, actual plague killing people by the hundreds of thousands.

  34. 34.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 11, 2021 at 11:27 am

    I may skip the flu shot for the second year in a row. While I’m sure we’ll have a flu season this year (unlike last year when we really didn’t have one), I still expect my likelihood of exposure is minuscule, compared with any year in the Before Times.

    My wife and I are still working from home, which will remain the case for at least another year; the kid’s back in school, but masks are required for everyone in the building, which should minimize flu transmission there; we don’t have much face-to-face social life to speak of, we haven’t eaten at an indoor restaurant in a year and a half, we wear our masks anyplace we’ll be indoors among strangers, and so forth.

    On top of that, I really expect that this will be a very light flu season around here. Between all the people still working from home (lots of Federal workers around here) and all the kids (and teachers and staff) being masked up at school, there are going to be way fewer people spreading the flu to begin with.

    So if I’m somewhere where I can just walk in and get the flu shot, I’ll probably do it, but otherwise, I doubt I’ll bother. In past years, I got the flu shot at work, but that’s not happening.

  35. 35.

    Ksmiami

    September 11, 2021 at 11:31 am

    @VOR: why should we care if they get better at this point? Your co-worker et al is taking up space and health resources that could have been used for others who are more deserving … I’m looking forward to an American renewal without these horrible citizens.

  36. 36.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 11, 2021 at 11:51 am

    @Cermet: IIRC seasonal flu vaccine protection (even assuming the vaxmakers have guessed right on which strains to immunize against) wears off in ~4 months.

    In which case, getting it now would leave you unprotected around mid-January, which is usually near the height of the season. Is that wise?

    My thought is to wait another 5-6 weeks for the flu shot, then cast about for a Moderna booster in early December (8 months out from jab #2). YMMV

  37. 37.

    Cermet

    September 11, 2021 at 12:06 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: while your logic is sound I am more worried about getting the flu early before I get the covid booster shoot. I want to avoid a cold before that shoot since it might cause unnneded testing or isolation and a lot of worry. I’m due a booster (if they open it) come Nov and would like to be cold free before that so as not to interfere with that shoot, also. But if one isn’t gonna get the booster, waiting for ideal time frame is logical.

  38. 38.

    Jim Appleton

    September 11, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @New Deal democrat: Not a DOOOMer, but reserving an opinion as to a Labor Day peak until it’s clear how massive changes in behavior from school opening play out

  39. 39.

    Soprano2

    September 11, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: I wait until my employer has a clinic, usually sometime in October.

  40. 40.

    Soprano2

    September 11, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    @New Deal democrat: That’s what’s happening here,  although the numbers are still high. We still aren’t to 50% fully vaxxed; it was 48% when I checked on Friday. The deaths in July and August were high. ? So much unnecessary death….

  41. 41.

    Chris Johnson

    September 11, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    @Ksmiami: Work on being less fucked up, or get used to resembling a hardworking russian troll punching a clock and doing his level best to go into any given community and make it want to kill some other American community, by any means necessary.

    srsly. Learn 2 civilization.

    ALL calls to polarization and genocide are suspect including those coming from ‘inside the house’.

  42. 42.

    Martin

    September 11, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    Don’t tell students if their classmates get coronavirus, University of Delaware warns faculty

    Just to make this clear – we have the same policy. Faculty don’t have access to the information they need to do this correctly. The administration will notify students.

    It’s not a policy against notifying students, it’s a policy about who can do it without violating the rights of the students.

  43. 43.

    jeepers

    September 11, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    The agency is under pressure to approve a vaccine for children below 12 years of age

    Under pressure by whom? Nobody is named or quoted because nobody in a meaningful position of authority is actually pressuring the FDA. This is manufactured controversy. This is the kind of bullshit view from nowhere reporting that destroys public confidence in institutions.

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