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I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

T R E 4 5 O N

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If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

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Saturday Morning Open Thread: ‘Just Us’ Rally Day for the Insurrectionists

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… Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger said at a news conference Friday it was difficult to say whether threats of violence at the event are credible, but he said that “chatter” online and elsewhere has been similar to intelligence that was missed in January.

A permit for the protest allows 700 people. Manger said he believes the most likely possibility for for violence Saturday will involve clashes between the protesters and counter-protesters who may show up…

After multiple missteps in January, law enforcement is out in full force. The fence around the Capitol is back up, temporarily. Police are preparing for the possibility that some demonstrators may arrive with weapons. The D.C. police department is at the ready, and U.S. Capitol Police have requested assistance from nearby law enforcement agencies.

The rally, organized by former Trump campaign strategist Matt Braynard, is aimed at supporting people who have been detained after the Jan. 6 insurrection — about 60 people held behind bars out of the more than 600 charged in the deadly riot. It’s the latest attempt to downplay and deny the January violence…

Many commenters on online platforms popular with the far right like Telegram disavowed the rally, saying they believed law enforcement was promoting the event to entrap Trump supporters. Some urged their followers not to attend what they said was a “false flag” event they believed was secretly organized by the FBI.

At the same time, however, some commenters continued to promote rallies planned for Saturday in cities and state capitals across the country…

I sincerely hope the counter-protestors, if any, don’t take the bait on offer. And that security forces at state houses are alert for the kind of Trumpist violence we’ve seen in places like Michigan and Oregon.

Not if the insurrections’ GodKing gets his way (speaking of people who should be under enforced supervision):

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  2. 2.

    Baud

    I kind of feel like the move now for Saturday’s protest is they are just going to accuse everyone preparing for the worst of overreacting

    Yeah, I expect tut-tuts from the cult of the savvy (which would be better than actual violence, but still).

  3. 3.

    Baud

    @germy:

    Not that he wasn’t bastard or that he redeemed himself, but I didn’t know this.

    One of the most controversial figures of the Civil War, Forrest was an early Ku Klux Klan leader, Memphis City Councilor and slave trader who later in life called for the KKK to disband and encouraged reconciliation and equality between the races

     

    From the news story underneath the tweet.

  4. 4.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Conspiracy theories from Republicans that the “justice for J6” rally is actually a FBI plot to round up Trump supporters to send them to the gulag has severely hindered expected attendance.

    The organizer says he may be the only one there ??

    Ah yes, The last of our true brave American patriots, abandoning the field of conflict at the first sign of a lack of proper deference to their collective whiteness.

  8. 8.

    Phylllis

    Trump releases statement expressing sympathy for the people arrested for the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Says they are being “persecuted so unfairly.”

    As opposed to those who are persecuted…fairly?

  10. 10.

    Baud

    @germy:

    Reminds me a little that one time recently when Trump tried to promote the vaccine in a speech and it bombed.  The people know what they want.

  11. 11.

    mali muso

    I’m annoyed because I had tentatively hoped to take a day trip into DC so the little one could see the dinosaur bones at the Natural History Smithsonian.  These choads ruin everything.  Instead we will stay close to home and go to the apple orchard later.  Cider donuts!!

  12. 12.

    Caphilldcne

    So many entertainment options in DC today. I think the new Capitol insurrectionists should try hanging out at the H Street festival https://www.hstreetfestival.org/ which will take place just blocks from the Capitol. It’s a fun diverse crowd. Good food and actual live music and hopefully vaxxed and somewhat masked folks! I think it’d blow their little minds.

  13. 13.

    Kattails

    @germy: And that bunch looks in their mirrors and sees the superior race.
    Further down, though, the Oregon doc who said masks cause Carbon dioxide poisoning has had his license revoked. A start, now let’s do Sidney Powell et al. And the woman who slapped and verbally attacked an active duty sailor who was in uniform was fired, arrested, and out on $10,000 bond.

  15. 15.

    raven

    @OzarkHillbilly: Update, oh boy! All new floor joists and sills, subfloor in bedroom and living room, we decided to tear out the kitchen, bathroom and “laundry room” and reconfigure and then foam insulate the whole kit and kaboodle!

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Former Texas solicitor general Jonathan Mitchell, who played a pivotal role in designing the legal framework of the state’s near-total abortion ban, also argued on behalf of anti-abortion group Texas Right to Life that women would still be able to terminate pregnancies if Roe was overturned by traveling to “wealthy pro-abortion” states like California and New York with the help of “taxpayer subsidies”.

    “Women can ‘control their reproductive lives’ without access to abortion; they can do so by refraining from sexual intercourse,” Mitchell wrote in the brief. “One can imagine a scenario in which a woman has chosen to engage in unprotected (or insufficiently protected) sexual intercourse on the assumption that an abortion will be available to her later. But when this court announces the overruling of Roe, that individual can simply change their behavior in response to the court’s decision if she no longer wants to take the risk of an unwanted pregnancy.”

    No comment, except to say that some things are better left unsaid.

  23. 23.

    Frankensteinbeck

    My takeaways:

    More evidence that the Capitol was stormed because it was wildly under protected.  These cowards saw how few police there were and thought it was being handed to them.  They scatter like cockroaches at an actual threat.

    Trump can’t even get invited to his own parties now.  I mean, the Moonies?  The guy is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    @Baud:

    And yes, Trump stopped being a god the second he stopped telling them what they already wanted to hear.  He just was so damn good at being the ignorant, bigoted bully they want acknowledged as the master race.

  25. 25.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Baud:

    And that is why Republicans are the pro-rape party.  I refuse to look up whether Texas is one of the states where it is legally not rape if a man does it to his wife.

  30. 30.

    Cameron

    Which state capitals are having J6 protests today? ‘Cause that’s where I think the violence will erupt.

  31. 31.

    Mike in NC

    A disgrace that this hate rally was even permitted. So it seems that Republicans will keep holding these rallies until Trump finally gets installed as dictator.

  33. 33.

    frosty

    @raven: ​Now *that’s* a renovation! Should solve any problems with the floor for good. Your project reminds me of my dad’s (unspoken) Rule #2 of car repair: “Well, as long as we’ve got it this far apart we might as well fix everything.”Rule #1 of course: “If it works, don’t mess with it.”​​

  34. 34.

    prostratedragon

    reinterred the remains of Confederate general and Klan leader, Nathan Bedford Forrest

    They keep rising up, or what? (Haven’t clicked the link and not sure I will)

  35. 35.

    stinger

    We have a gulag? That feels kind of special!

    I thought the big protest/gathering/rally in DC was supposed to have been in August. This is going to be like Infrastructure Week, isn’t it?  ETA: And a health care bill.

  39. 39.

    SFAW

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Interesting that the Texas former solicitor general didn’t appear to consider use of birth control products, nor making said products easily available..

    Or suggesting that the sluts wimmins only have sex with castrated males. A group which I hope he joins in the not-too-distant future. Perhaps via non-surgical methods, i.e., repeatedly getting kicked in the balls.

  41. 41.

    stinger

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    One can imagine a scenario

    This guy sounds like an incel, to be honest.

    One time my neighbor, newly Catholic, said to me that women who didn’t want to be pregnant should just stop having sex. I replied, “Tell that to their husbands.” He spluttered, “Well… BOYFRIENDS” for a moment, then subsided. He was replacing my car battery for free at the time, so I didn’t want to pursue a topic of such profound disagreement. But I hope he went home and maybe had an eye-opening conversation with his wife.

    Obviously he thought only single slutty-sluts ever wanted an abortion.

  43. 43.

    Ken

    Paranoia and accusations cloud efforts to launch ‘Justice for January 6’ rally

    Feel-good headline of the day.

  45. 45.

    germy

    Judge now discussing the Proud Boys evidence. Says he never heard of the group before the case. Says he won’t rely “on a Seattle newspaper” to describe the group because there’s “so many groups” in the country.

    — Colin Kalmbacher (@colinkalmbacher) September 17, 2021

    Judge discussing Rittenhouse’s use of a white nationalist/white power hand symbol. The judge says he’s never heard of the symbol in this context and believes he first saw it used by Chef Boyardee.

    Binger interjects: “We’re not saying Chef Boyardee is a member of the Proud Boys.”

    — Colin Kalmbacher (@colinkalmbacher) September 17, 2021

  46. 46.

    Baud

    @Ken:

    Paranoia and accusations cloud inspire efforts to launch ‘Justice for January 6’ rally

     
    Equally accurate headline.

  48. 48.

    raven

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s over 100 years old and these improvements are necessary. My problem is that the contractor/friend is and artist and with him and my bride (the daughter of a builder) the ideas are overwhelming!

  53. 53.

    raven

    @debbie: Rental, I documented our major addition here a few years back. This house is next door and it was tempting to just sell it as is since prices are insane.

  55. 55.

    SFAW

    @germy:

    “I’ve never seen an actual coronavirus, so why should I believe it exists? And this idea that the Earth moves around the sun? Doesn’t look that way to me.”

    and so on …

  61. 61.

    jonas

    When BLM protesters vandalized federal property in Portland, didn’t Trump deploy heavily armed thugs and call for them all to be shot in the streets like dogs? I wonder why that doesn’t apply here for some reason…..​

  64. 64.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @jonas: I wonder why that doesn’t apply here for some reason…..​

    As I noted above, they aren’t showing up because they fear it just might apply this time around.

  65. 65.

    Geoduck

    @Cameron: Here in/near Olympia, WA a couple-three weeks back, the Proud Boys rioted in the downtown area with the police standing by and watching. (This was several blocks from the actual state Capitol campus.) It ended when someone they targeted pulled a gun and fired, shooting one PB leader in the foot. The PBs are threatening to come back again today, we’ll see what happens.

  66. 66.

    Geminid

    @raven: If you’ve got a good builder and can afford the work, that sounds like kind of a fun project. Maybe a little noisy from time to time. You’ll be adding a lot of value, and if the house market is hot you should be able to charge a rent in balance with your costs, and have some choice as to your neighbor.

    Good  luck,  and go Dawgs!

  68. 68.

    Low Key Swagger

    @Immanentize: Interesting you should say that.  That has always been my belief, but I’ve had a number of builders here tell me that is isn’t necessary.  Roof?  Yes.  Crawlspace?  No.  In fact, I know some folks who did the encapsulation of theirs, and there is no venting whatsoever.

  69. 69.

    germy

    NEW: Jan. 6 committee announces former Bush-era US Attorney will be senior investigative counsel. pic.twitter.com/9ZybZIaJxR— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) September 17, 2021

    John Wood.

    Wood served as a law clerk for Justice Thomas many years ago. Given Ginni Thomas’s role in January 6 (reportedly organizing and funding) is there a conflict of interest?— Vote, Organize, Do Good? (@MelissaHBuckner) September 17, 2021

  70. 70.

    germy

    @Low Key Swagger:

    I was looking at some exterior house painters, their various websites.  A few of them boast that they are really good at spray painting.

    Now I remember a few years ago reading that house painters should NOT spray paint a house, but rather stick to brushes, because with sprayers the paint has to be so thinned, that it doesn’t last on the house.

    But these painters insist they can spray the exterior with no problems.

    I don’t know…

  73. 73.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Low Key Swagger:In fact, I know some folks who did the encapsulation of theirs, and there is no venting whatsoever.

    Yes, there are situations where it is not necessary. I can’t say as to Raven’s situation. A good contractor will know.

  74. 74.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @germy:But these painters insist they can spray the exterior with no problems.

    They’ve been doing it for decades. With the proper paint, it’s good.

  76. 76.

    Wag

    @Baud:   Reasonable, until you read his further statements encouraging the SC to overturn Lawrence, the case that provides a constitutional right to gay sex.

  78. 78.

    Amir Khalid

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Conspiracy theories from Republicans that the “justice for J6” rally is actually a FBI plot to round up Trump supporters to send them to the gulag has severely hindered expected attendance.

    The organizer says he may be the only one there ??

    I hope there will be pictures.

  79. 79.

    Kay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    But when this court announces the overruling of Roe,

    Their courts are too dishonest to announce the overruling of Roe. Instead they issue orders at midnight without a public hearing and then go on speaking tours where they reference the order they just issued only obliquely and in ways intended to mislead the public.
    Best not to listen to any of them and just read their (unsigned) orders. The rest is a political campaign.

  80. 80.

    germy

    @WaterGirl:

    In the interest of bipartisanship, but I hope we don’t bipartisan ourselves right out the door.

    I’m hoping he’s like Cheney, in that he wants to scrub the GOP of every last bit of trumpism.

    I guess we shall see, as the blind man said to the elephant.

  84. 84.

    Kay

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    This is literally what happens when you hand normal people a decision in their case. They flip somewhat impatiently thru the 30 page decision and read the concluding paragraph(s). They’re right too- that’s the thing.

    Some of them just hand it back and ask me to tell them what the important part means to them. Even better. They get it.

  85. 85.

    Tazj

    Melissa [email protected] minutes

    FYI: In the SCOTUS challenge to MS’s 15 week abortion ban, Jonathan Mitchell, the architect of TX’s SB8 has filled an amicus brief on behalf of TX Right to Life. The brief invites the Court to overrule Roe&Casey AND Lawrence &Obergefell, 2 major LGBTQ decisions.

    He called those decisions “judicial concoctions.”

  86. 86.

    Baud

    @Tazj:

    I feel like we should have a liberal group that just files amicus briefs asking the court to overturn precedents we don’t like.

  87. 87.

    Kay

    @germy:

    There’s a house on a state route I travel frequently where they JUST set up what I think of as “Trump Shrines”. Like a display, with the 2020 Trump flag and some of their other tribal affiliations- confederate flag, blue lives matter flag, placard attacking Biden. I’m interested. Did they sell the house and these are the new owners and they brought the shrine from the prior place? They just figured out he isn’t president? Perhaps brand new initiatites to the conspiracy theories?  You would feel so slow, coming  to it so late.

  88. 88.

    Geminid

    @Low Key Swagger:  Foundation ventilation has a lot to do with local climate. It’s a necessity in humid Virginia. And some localities here have soil that emits radon, in which case crawl space ventilation is especially important.

    In the 1980s the contractor I worked for built a few passive solar homes. One was a design pioneered out west, an “envelope house.” A big sunroom on the south side was vented into the crawlspace below and the attic above. An extra wide north wall was similarly vented, the idea being that warm air would circulate around the house and heat the extra 60 tons of stone aggregate in the crawlspace. I don’t know how the house worked thermally, but the humidity caused the floor joists to mold, and a year or so after the house was finished another guy and I spent a few hours stapling a plastic membrane to the bottom of the joists. They resembled bleu cheese. The vents into the attic were closed off too.

    In the 90’s the straw bale house came east, but it’s popularity was shortlived. It was a good design for New Mexico, but not Virginia.

  89. 89.

    germy

    Raffensperger vows to defy expected subpoena from ‘partisan sideshow’ Jan. 6 commission

    (Washington Examiner headline.  I won’t link)

  91. 91.

    RaflW

    Since we’re talking about terroristic threats, here’s where the real action is.
    “Senate Republicans say they will vote to allow debt default, leaving Democrats scrambling for plan to avert economic crisis”

    This should be accurately reported as the GOP offering to tank the entire economy for a vote on weather to default on our loans. Fiscal responsibility? Hahahahah. They’re literally saying, ‘we refuse to honor the debts we ourselves incurred’.

    McConnell needs to be on blast from every business in America. It’s reckless and could throw our recovery into a tailspin.

    eta: Fk that WaPo framing, too.
    “Senate Democrats will vote to honor our debts, Republicans vow to be deadbeats and tank the economy”

  92. 92.

    MikefromArlington

    It’ll be a kumbaya gathering no doubt unless Bannon is behind it.

    Any idea who is organizing it?

  95. 95.

    Lapassionara

    @Tazj: And so he asks for relief on “cases and controversies” that are not even before the Court? How better to cement the Court’s reputation for being “non-partisan”?  Where is the snark font?

  96. 96.

    Baud

    @RaflW:

    Seriously, whenever the Dems have to deal with something, they are always “scrambling,” or “worried,” or in “disarray” according to the media.

  97. 97.

    Ken

    @Baud: It’s already 11 in DC. When is thing supposed to start?

    Possibly at some significant time as determined by Q numerology.  Like, 5:18 PM, because that’s 17:18, and 17=Q and 18=AH.

  98. 98.

    zhena gogolia

    @WaterGirl:

    OT, but the show I was talking about when I said I started with season 7 is MI-5. I’m finding it quite absorbing and well-acted, if the geopolitical details are highly implausible. Bridget Jones’s mother as a spymaster tickles me no end.

  100. 100.

    germy

    Co-organizer of the DC MAGA rally at Capitol said she is most afraid of the Capitol Police tomorrow: “I don’t want to see them tomorrow. The Capitol Police make me more nervous than the counter-protesters. To be honest, that’s what’s giving me the most anxiety.” pic.twitter.com/phco2w5grT

    — Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 18, 2021

  103. 103.

    Ruckus

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    He just was so damn good at being the ignorant, bigoted bully they want acknowledged as the master race.

    trump was the leader of the master race?

    I believe I possibly have found the flaw in their concept of master race…

  104. 104.

    WaterGirl

    @germy:

    In the interest of bipartisanship, but I hope we don’t bipartisan ourselves right out the door.

    Yeah, the first part is pretty obvious.  But I am still saying “WTF?”

    To me, that choice is a lose-lose.

    Best case, even if this fellow really does want to clean house, the other side will NEVER see this as bipartisan, so it doesn’t matter.

    Worst case, he is a wolf if wolf’s clothing, and it fucks up the investigations.  Sure feels like a mistake to me, but I acknowledge that Nancy Pelosi knows more than I do about how to play this.

    Still, it makes me nervous.

  105. 105.

    Baud

    Ugh. There’s only one legitimate news story about the rally.  Was there violence or did the police deter the violence. The beliefs of the attendees is not worthy of coverage.

  106. 106.

    germy

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m not sure Nancy Pelosi made that appointment.  It was done by Ms. Cheney and Mr Bennie Thompson.

    One of the replies:  “They could appoint Don Jr. and Republicans would still call it partisan.”

  109. 109.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: Aasif Mandvi was on Love it or Leave It last night (Jon Lovett’s podcast).

    I was really shocked to hear Aasif Mandvi say that people should stop bitching at Biden about bullshit stuff when there is plenty of actual stuff to bitch at him about – like the disaster getting out of Afghanistan.

    Jon didn’t say a word to challenge that.  Truly disappointing.

    edit: were you serious in your comment about Afghanistan, or was that snark?

  112. 112.

    MomSense

    Should we even call it a rally or a protest?  These motherfuckers are butthurt that their attempt at an armed coup failed.

    And I don’t care what they “believe” about the election.  They are wrong.  There is no excuse for believing that bullshit.

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    @zhena gogolia: okay, you were talking about the geopolitical details being highly implausible.

    This was the part of your comment that had confused me:

    but I’m thoroughly enjoying it, preposterous as it is.

    Now I get what you were saying.  thanks

  116. 116.

    H.E.Wolf

    @germy: I guess we shall see, as the blind man said to the elephant.​

     That brought back a fond memory of my dad’s version: “We’ll see, said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw.”

    Appropriate in this thread of home renovation. :)

  117. 117.

    Danielx

    @germy:

    Not true, I’ve sprayed my house without thinning the paint and it went on fine and lasted. Matter of fact, if you are unfortunate enough to have T111 siding it’s the only way to ensure the grooves in the siding get thoroughly covered.

  119. 119.

    germy

    @H.E.Wolf:

    My father had a few malapropisms.

    I remember he would sometimes refer to “throwing a monkey into the wrench” (meaning to mess something up).

  121. 121.

    germy

    @Danielx:

    I live in a brick house.  Previous owners decided it would be a good idea to paint the brick light yellow.  Just one of their decisions that makes me wish I had a time machine.  Just to slap their tools out of their stupid hands.

     

    EDIT:  I don’t suppose there’s a way to blast the old paint off the brick without destroying the brick.

  122. 122.

    Baud

    @WaterGirl:

    Well, we haven’t really had a favorable court since the early 70s.  Also, we have an aversion to looking like clowns.  And just because you ask, doesn’t meant the court gives it, which would be a political problem for us if we had a Dem court saying no often enough.

  125. 125.

    Tazj

    @Lapassionara:  I’m not a lawyer so I have no idea if his writing is unusually partisan or over the top for an amicus brief. I was just surprised at how brazen his writing was when so many conservatives have been much more reserved in the past about their true intentions.

    Well, maybe conservatives who comment on the Court have been reserved, not actual conservatives.

  131. 131.

    frosty

    @germy: People have been stripping Formstone and paint off of brick rowhouses in Baltimore since the 1970s and they’re still standing. So yes, there must be some way of doing it. I was fortunate enough that the DPOs* didn’t touch the brick on my two rowhouses.

    *Damned Previous Owner (lifted from British car forum)

  132. 132.

    Jay

    @germy:

    Marine supply stores sell peel away paint stripper products. It’s a paint on gel to which you apply a membrane, wait, then peel off the paint. It’s designed to keep toxic antifouling paint debris out of the water.

    Not cheap and you would have to go slowly.

    I always advise that for houses that need paint or stain, paint one side a year. Turns a week long job into a weekend job and the house always looks “fresh”.

  134. 134.

    Danielx

    @germy:

    Read that this morning, had read it twice to believe it. No particular basis for the demand, just “make me president again”… to Georgia SoS.

    Never will understand how a whiny little brat has become an object of devotion to so many. Possibly understandable if he had any virtues at all, but the list of qualities of which he is totally devoid – integrity chief among them – is lengthy.

  135. 135.

    Another Scott

    @germy: There are a handful of painted brick homes around here in NoVA where people have tried to remove the paint. – never successfully.  Some leave it that way.  I guess that they find the partially painted brick look acceptable.

    Bricks seem to want to breathe.  I see lots of painted brick chimneys with spalling bricks, so I would be very insistent on getting a painter that knows how to prevent that from happening before even thinking about painting brick.  But I guess most people don’t think about those issues…

    Different strokes.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  137. 137.

    Spanky

    @germy: Late to the party perhaps, but my clapboard house was spray painted.

    Once.

    Don’t waste your money. All the advantages go to the painter (ease, speed) and none to the homeowner.

  138. 138.

    dnfree

    @germy: it depends partly on what kind of paint they used (water-based would be much easier to remove than oil-based), and how “sealed” the brick surface was before they applied the paint, if they roughed up the brick surface to make the paint adhere better.  Best approach might be to try a small section in an inconspicuous location, if there is one.

    We formerly lived across the street from a house that had been brick painted white for a long time.  They were successful in washing most of it off, so I wish I could tell you what they used, but I don’t know.

  139. 139.

    West of the Rockies

    @Ruckus:

    The Traitorous Confederate has been losing their shitty statues for a couple years now.  I guess moving the wormy bones of Bedford gives them a collective woody again?

  140. 140.

    WaterGirl

    @germy: That’s what’s so great about it.  Totally absurd.  And he wasn’t bright enough to know it.

    I should probably add the he was the assistant manage at the restaurant/bar where i worked as a bartender when my mom was terminally ill.

    I had just finished grad school, and it didn’t seem smart to start a real job while I was going back and forth to Chicago all the time.

    This is the fellow who bragged about walking in the door every day after work, dropping his pants while his wife fetched him  beer, so he could drink the beer as she gave him a blow job.

  143. 143.

    Kelly

    First good rain storm of the fall here in the PNW. About an inch overnight around here and expect rain to continue thru the weekend. Forecast is 2″~3″ up around the fires in the Cascades. This won’t end fire season but it’ll be a big, big help.

  146. 146.

    dnfree

    @raven: I don’t know if the house has a basement or if your area has radon, but houses that are tightly sealed are implicated in lung cancer caused by radon.  In the old times, houses were leakier air-wise and people didn’t spend much time in their basements. The trends to better-insulated homes and finished basements were deadly in some cases. We knew a very young woman, in her 30s, who died of radon-induced lung cancer.  They had made the basement of their old home into a family room.

  150. 150.

    Immanentize

    @germy: Civil War era mourning dresses.

    I like the picture of mother and child that they are carrying. Everyone of those people has a Klan outfit in their closet at home.

  152. 152.

    Danielx

    @germy:

    Got my interest and started looking – one article was titled “how to remove paint from brick in eight steps” which is a load of horseshit right there. No process involving eight steps is easy. Conclusion after browsing: can be done but it’s an expensive pain in the ass.

  154. 154.

    Immanentize

    @germy: I kind of like the look of white washed brick, where it comes off and there is both brick and paint. But I hate painted brick.

    I have dealt with painted brick and learned (yes) that the problem with pressure washing is not so much the paint coming off the brick (it will) but then everything needs to be repointed. Ugh.

    I think the above recommendation of the gel that can be later peeled off and thrown out (designed originally for lead based paint jobs) is a good one.

  155. 155.

    Kelly

    @germy: Mrs Kelly spent weeks removing paint from a brick fireplace with acetone. Looked great and acetone is low toxicity but it took a long time. A fireplace is a lot smaller than a house.

  156. 156.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Immanentize: Speaking of Klan outfits, I got in trouble on a Discord server for opining that there was no fundamental moral difference between a MAGA hat and a Klan hood. As the kewl kidz say, AITA? (translated: am I the asshole?)

  163. 163.

    Geminid

    I read that the former trump campaign worker organizing today’s rally, Matt Braynard, raised at least $650,000 for his Voter Integrity Project challenging President Biden’s election. According to NBC news, Braynard was paid $230,000 for consulting and appearances as an “expert” witness in various legal actions. Other reporting says that court documents in an Arizona case state that Braynard was paid $40,000 to appear as a witness.

  164. 164.

    CaseyL

    Good morning, all y’all, from slightly damp Seattle.

    Forecasters promised a stormy Friday-Saturday, big wind and heavy rain. Well, we got some decent rain.  No big winds, unless I slept through that part.

    Trying to follow the J6 comedy via Twitter.  Either it hasn’t really started yet, or it’s a resounding flop (as in, “horse apples hitting the ground” flop.)

  165. 165.

    Amir Khalid

    Happy news from sportsball land: Liverpool 3-0 Crystal Palace. Liverpool go top of the Premier League. Defendung champions Manchester City drew 0-0 at home to Southampton and are three points behind. Manchester United and Chelsea  play on Sunday, and if they win could both overtake City in the league.

  166. 166.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Danielx:

    Never will understand how a whiny little brat has become an object of devotion to so many.

    Because they are whiny brats and they want a whiny brat as president to prove that they are actually the greatest people ever and not whiny brats, and to impose all of their malicious, petty, whiny little tantrums on everyone who actually is better than they are.

  167. 167.

    Urza

    @WaterGirl: @West of the Rockies: I believe that ‘Q’ is in custody and is being charged for as part of the Jan 6 riot.

    Q messages stopped around late November when it was obvious the loser lost.  Given the options of who was likely to be Q in that period, they probably just gave up on the game.  They probably weren’t a true believer or they’d still be stoking the insanity.

  168. 168.

    There go two miscreants

    @WaterGirl: “Necessity was my mother’s invention.”

    I am so going to steal that one! To go along with my faves:

    “We’ll burn that bridge when we come to it.”

    (My father used the ‘hammer and saw’ line also!)

    “That’s water over the bridge.”

  170. 170.

    Geminid

    Charlottesville anti-fascist Molly Conger made the trip to D.C. with Richmond colleague Goad Gatsby. She reported in a series of tweets, and described the rally as finishing up 40 minutes ago. Reporters outnumbered attendees. There was music; Conger thinks she heard Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire” four times.

    There was also a slide show. Conger says that when a picture of the Q-Anon Shaman came up, a women in a long American flag-print dress shouted, “Free the Horned God!”

  171. 171.

    James E Powell

    @Danielx:

    Never will understand how a whiny little brat has become an object of devotion to so many.

    We all struggle with this because we want to believe that his followers are not bad people. The thought that 73 million of our fellow citizens are ignorant, hateful bigots is just too hard to accept. But the truth often is.

  172. 172.

    Aziz, light!

    When BLM protesters vandalized federal property in Portland

    They were not BLM protestors; that’s the right-wing framing. Our small local band of vandals are the young-white-guy anarchists who routinely hijack peaceful demonstrations in Portland to have their property-wrecking fun. The fun begins late at night after the protestors have departed. Please do not conflate the two groups.

  174. 174.

    J R in WV

    @Geminid:

    … Conger says that when a picture of the Q-Anon Shaman came up, a women in a long American flag-print dress shouted, “Free the Horned God!”

    IIRC the Horned God killed the old king to fertilize and generate a thriving spring. Be careful what you wish for, Flag wrapped lady!

    Maybe that (horned god) boy can turn his fame into lots of J womans worshiping him sexually? There’s a thought, maybe that was his plan all along…

  175. 175.

    Noskilz

    I have to think that the fact that many of the most enthusiastic supporters of January 6 are already locked up or have cut plea deals with the feds was a big factor. Maybe I’m being naïve, but there isn’t an infinite supply of such people – that is people willing to do violent, crazy things for a cause – even most true believers are only willing to risk so much inconvenience to themselves and they now have several hundred examples of how much inconvenience can be on offer.

    Even on January 6th, the people actively trying to whip the crowd up had a very difficult time keeping the rioters on track, particularly when the security response started to build – they may love to rant about martyrs, but in general they seem to have very little interest in becoming one.

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