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  4. 4.

    Elizabelle

    @Old School:  Cool.  Thank you.

    Haven’t been following the UN news.  I hope they barred Bolsonaro, if he truly is unvaccinated.  No speech for you, Mr. Covid denier.  Go glad-hand somewhere else.

  5. 5.

    Betty Cracker

    @Elizabelle: I read somewhere Bolsonaro was bounced from a NY pizza joint for not having proof of vaccination and had to eat his slice on the sidewalk. Ha!

  6. 6.

    MazeDancer

    “His speech hit all the right notes for this audience.”

    From Micheal Crowley, of the NY Times, on MSNBC. Wait, didn’t the NYT pre-supply him with some Biden diss? Where’s the both sides?

  8. 8.

    Nicole

    Oh my God, an address to the UN so boring I turned it off part way through.   This is how it should be.  I’m so grateful.  Good job, Mr. President, and I mean that with all sincerity.

  9. 9.

    Betty

    Very aspirational speech that covered a lot of ground spoken with conviction. Now to live up to those goals here and abroad.

  10. 10.

    jonas

    @Elizabelle: I hope they barred Bolsonaro, if he truly is unvaccinated

    He and his cronies were spotted eating outdoors at a taco stand or something last night in NYC, so he seems to be owning his unvaxxed-ness.

    ETA: Oops — missed BC’s comment upthread. What she said.

  11. 11.

    tam1MI

    Off topic. But has there been any more news about poor Mollie the dog? It breaks my heart that a Juicer was so close to giving her a home until some other posters talked her out of it. I fear Mollie has been put down by now.

  12. 12.

    Mike in NC

    @Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.):  It was a miracle that the Orange Clown didn’t withdraw the USA from the UN. After all, he hired the warmonger Bolton, who was a big critic of the UN. The far right has always had a problem with the UN (see John Birch Society).

    Rumor was that Dumbass Donnie was also going to follow through on his isolationist policy by dropping out of NATO and pulling all US forces from South Korea (and probably Japan as well). “America First” was a slogan he stole from another celebrity imbecile who hated Jews and loved Nazis.

  13. 13.

    DTTM

    Re: speech…check out the Times framing…still not willingly to concede on Afghanistan or Always War thinking:
    “His familiar refrain that the world must choose between democracy and autocracy looks different now that the Taliban are once again in control of Kabul, reversing many of the democratic gains of the past 20 years. ”
    Democratic gains? Jesus fucking christ…it never ends with these people.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    @Mike in NC:

    It was a miracle that the Orange Clown didn’t withdraw the USA from the UN

     

    The clown wanted Netanyahu on his side and withdrawing from the UN would have meant giving up the Security Counsel veto.

  16. 16.

    JPL

     

    I thought the President did a great job and hit all the important points.

     

    @Mike in NC: That celebrity feats are probably taught in TX history classes, without mentioning the other part.   Don’t wanna hurt feelings and all.

  19. 19.

    Sure Lurkalot

    Current greatest hits on Politico via Memeorandum:

    Dems fear Biden’s domestic agenda could implode!

    Double trouble for Biden!

    Not linking because I like you all too much for that.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    OT:  Someone needs to do a welfare check on Cole.  On Twitter, he is suggesting that fuck around with the debt ceiling is a good thing and is considering doing structural work on his foundation himself with only YouTube guidance.  The boy has lost what’s left of his mind.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    @bluehill:

    I just downloaded it so we’ll see how it holds up.  But the biggest change for me is Safari. BJ loads much, much faster now.  There are also a bunch of new features that seem good but I have played around enough yet.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    he is suggesting that fuck around with the debt ceiling is a good thing

    Yeah, it’s harder to complain about Manchinema if the progressives are doing the same thing.  We’ll see what happens.

  34. 34.

    Old School

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    On Twitter, he is suggesting that fuck around with the debt ceiling

    I guess I’m missing part of the story.  Funding for Israel is part of the debt ceiling bill?

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    All of which means that unless Democrats can all get on the same page over the next week, Biden’s expansive agenda will be doomed. And Democrats’ chances of transformational change in how government impacts every day Americans lives will disappear — maybe forever.

    Fuck Chris Cillizza with the biggest, rustiest pitchfork available. God damn, but I detest that hack.

  39. 39.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Old School: It is a combination Continuing Resolution/Debt Ceiling  bill. The Israel money isn’t new, and this isn’t the place to fight about it.  The budget is the place for that.  Fucking with the debt ceiling is an aaa hole move when the GOP does it, and it remains one when progressives do it.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    @WaterGirl:

    I have an Android phone and like the app drawer.  Apple has now created its own version of that.  It works a little differently, but I think that’s something I’ll like.

    iOS supposedly has improved its translation features, but I haven’t tried that out yet.  Split screen also looks a little easier to use, but I haven’t done much with that either.

  47. 47.

    Cacti

    I saw that some political sites were trumpeting Biden’s disapproval in Iowa being 62%.

    I can’t say I ever recall any stories on Trump’s approval in New York or California.

  48. 48.

    Kay

    @Cacti:

    The rabid Trumpsters here have already determined Biden’s whole presidency is a disaster. They say it with complete assurance, like everyone agrees with them in that way people do when they allude to an imaginary huge group who share their opinion rather than just speaking for themselves. It reminds me a little of 2012, when they all told me Obama was “toast”. They were then absolutely crushed when Obama won again.

    I don’t say anything other than a very mild “I think he’s doing fine”. I sort of want them to keep talking.

  49. 49.

    Cacti

    @Kay: It’s a cult.

    I don’t say that pejoratively.  The GOP is literally an authoritarian personality cult at this point.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    BoJo ? Biden.

    Said Johnson: “What I will say about Joe Biden and dealing with the new American president, yes, it is a breath of fresh air in the sense of the some things on which we can really really work together, and you knew I was gonna bring it up — climate change — he’s great on that.”

    –Today Show

  51. 51.

    Baud

    @trollhattan:

    it is a breath of fresh air in the sense of the some things on which we can really really work together, and you knew I was gonna bring it up — climate change — he’s great on that.” he doesn’t have a literal stench like the last guy.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    Who is Fred Kaplan?

    Why the Fine Words of Biden’s U.N. Speech Rang Hollow

    Slate Magazine / by Fred Kaplan / 12min

     

    He couldn’t drown out the hubbub over America’s actions of the past several weeks

  53. 53.

    Another Scott

    @Omnes Omnibus: AFAIK, it’s not a simple clean debt ceiling bill.  Schumer said that it was a combo push out the debt ceiling until after the 2022 elections and a CR of some sort.  If it’s a clean CR and debt ceiling and nothing else, then, yeah they should keep their powder dry.  If others get their sacred cows in the bill, then they get to fight too.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  54. 54.

    Kay

    @Cacti:

    I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the documentary about Romney a friend of the Romney family made after 2012. I thought it was good- obviously “pro-Romney” but not too engineered- a lot of just letting people talk. On election night Romney himself is watching Florida come in and he knows he’s lost, but his cheerleading family and staff are still in denial. I sort of admired how he didn’t lie to himself. He knew and he accepted it immediately. They take their cue from him and the cheerleading peters out.

    Compare that to how insane they are now. This thing just busts through floor after floor, down, down, down. You wonder where the bottom is.

  57. 57.

    JoyceH

    @Kay:

    The rabid Trumpsters here have already determined Biden’s whole presidency is a disaster. They say it with complete assurance,

    I saw a thing recently on CNN where Donie O’Sullivan was interviewing people before a Trump rally. Well,  you know their mental orientation if they’re going to a political rally months after their guy lost. But anyhoo, he’s talking to one lady and he asks, incredulity clear in his voice, “Do you really think Joe Biden is a pedophile?” and she replies with complete conviction, “Oh, I know he is.” What can you do with that?

  63. 63.

    JoyceH

    @Baud:

    The question should never have been asked.

    On CNN, Donie O’Sullivan and Ellie Reeve seem to be their wingnut whisperers. They’ll ask the most outrageous questions and get their subject to reveal the depths of their disorder. It’s sort of ‘let’s see how deep this rabbit hole goes?’ I think it’s useful for us normies to actually realize what these folks say among themselves about what they truly believe. So when the high-minded utopians urge us to find Common Ground with our opponents, we can point to the body of evidence and ask, ‘find common ground with THAT?’

  64. 64.

    Baud

    @JoyceH: Usually, I find that these things just provide the right an opportunity to spread their crazy outside of Facebook.  But I’ll reserve judgment since I haven’t seen the program for myself.

  65. 65.

    piratedan

    @JoyceH: and this is where they (the media fail)… okay, if YOU know and believe that Joe Biden is a Pedophile because of where you get your information, why didn’t the Trump Administration sic the Department of Justice on him? Knowing that bringing down a high profile defiler of children would constitute a national good?  If Trump knew this, and McConnell knew this, why haven’t charges been brought, why didn’t the people that your profess to support do more to bring this criminal to justice?  How can you support an administration that would allow a national travesty like this to exist?

     

    It’s like if you want to be taken seriously, how is it that the people you support do such a shitty job at doing their jobs?

  67. 67.

    Gravenstone

    @germy: Better that they shrink wrap it in plastic, then send it off for incineration before wheeling out a new one for the sane people to use.

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