.@MoodysAnalytics forecasts that failure by Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans to join Democrats in upholding the full faith & credit of the US would be “cataclysmic.”
The projection: 6 million jobs lost and high costs for business and families — for no reason.
Unthinkable. pic.twitter.com/isGFt0fFp2
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) September 23, 2021
A flip flop of global proportions.
Mitch McConnell 2019
vs.
Mitch McConnell 2021Make sure everybody sees it. pic.twitter.com/By77NjlVZJ
— Nick Knudsen ???? (@NickKnudsenUS) September 22, 2021
“I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.”
I’ve heard him recently, just audio, & thought he suddenly sounds a lot worse. https://t.co/XnSCozOu4p
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 23, 2021
Mathguy
Yertle, if he ever dies, will have to have his grave fenced off to prevent it from becoming the headwaters of a urine river.
rikyrah
They want to tank the economy. Thought that was obvious
Ruckus
He’s just trying to leave his indelible mark of greater republicanism upon the land.
IOW he’s trying to leave it far more fucked up than when he got here. If he can’t have what he wants, no one can have what they need. He’s going to show us for not allowing him to live forever. It is after all, entirely democrats fault
OTOH he is ill, he won’t live forever, no matter how bad he makes it for everyone else. Maybe he won’t be able to fuck up the nation before he goes. Wouldn’t that be nice. I do like that a man with money, a nice rather easy job, the ability to screw millions, can’t be satisfied with just being an ass, he has to take that 2000 steps farther.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Holy shit, these people are going to fuck us over. Mitch Fucking McConnell can make me homeless and jobless. Please tell me the Money Class are going to talk some sense into the GOP or the Dems are going to avert thi
When is the deadline to raise the debt ceiling?
piratedan
Same old game plan… wreak havoc, deny responsibility. Watch the press give them cover.
Ruckus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Not just you my friend. Millions of people, some of whom voted for his dumb ass or at least his party. He doesn’t care about any of them, he’s a sadistic bastard. He can’t get what he wants, no one gets what they need.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Ruckus:
But…I mean this is just a negotiating tactic…..right? Just for leverage? He’s not serious, right? And if he and his caucus are and Machinema don’t move off their stupid filibuster position, then Treasury is going have to mint that $1 trillion coin or else we’re all fucked. The Republicans won’t be blamed for it and we’re left holding the bag
Ms. Deranged in AZ
Speaking of the death cult….my ex husband and father of my 11 yr old son really loved Trump and believed every cockamamie thing they churned out. So he refused to get the vaccine. He is now in ICU and intubated. He has a 50/50 chance of survival. If not for my son, I would not care too terribly much but the fact that my poor son’s heart is breaking is terrible to watch. God how I hate the GQP. There’s blood on their hands and they have no shame.
Urza
Crypto thread died and this is an open thread.
The nations second largest mortgage broker is talking about accepting Bitcoin as payment. I don’t think its actually happened yet but I saw this article a couple weeks ago.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/united-wholesale-mortgage-will-accept-bitcoin-other-cryptocurrency.html
Personally I dislike the goldbuggery. If someone wants to gamble fine, but its not a real investment the way it is.
HumboldtBlue
GOP sedition aside, this is absolutely gobsmackingly brilliant!
RaflW
To that last tweet, Mitch hasn’t looked well for a while. Maybe the Devil is impatient for his end of the deal and is starting to take installment payments on McConnell’s soul.
Major Major Major Major
Fun to think about how the Democrats could eliminate the debt ceiling tomorrow if they wanted to.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
I’m so sorry, for you and your son. My maternal aunt, my mother’s BIL, and my younger cousin all tested positive for COVID in the past few days. None of them were vaccinated. They’re not even super MAGA or anti-vaxx. My aunt is just one of those people that’s truly “vaccine hesitant”; she’s made low-info “scientists can’t make up their minds” comments in the past, tho. I feel bad for them because they’re not really bad people (not like the Herman Cain Award types). It hits differently when it’s somebody you know and like
Anyway, my 70 y/o diabetic uncle with cardiac problems to boot had to go to the ER yesterday. I don’t know if he was experiencing SOB, but his heart rate was only 30 BPM and the hospital was going to transfer him to a nearby hospital in the area to see a cardiologist. It’s been over 24 hrs and he’s still waiting on a bed to open up. Aunt said the ED waiting room was full of people. He’s a nice, if sort of dopey guy and I honestly hope he pulls through.
So, I guess I kind of know what you’re going through atm and I hope your ex recovers if only for your son
Cameron
So. I guess that answers whether the reconciliation bill will be 3.5 or 1.5 trillion. It’s going to be 0 trillion. The rest of this year and 2022 will be interesting times indeed.
NotMax
@RaflW
The reverse Dorian Gray. Mitch’s portrait in the attic puts Adonis to shame.
//
Ruckus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
He may not get what he wants but yes, he’s as serious as a mentally deranged republican with power can be. Which is serious enough.
Remember he has had a lot more power than one senator should ever have and that is likely to end in the near future. He’s not a well man, he’s 79 yrs old, he wants to go out with an atomic bomb sized bang. Screwing millions of people on his way out would be 100% in character for him.
Edmund Dantes
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: my heart breaks for your son. I couldn’t dream of leaving my daughter without her dad.
phdesmond
@HumboldtBlue:
unfortunately, i don’t understand the tweet. would you enlighten?
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@phdesmond:
It’s the Bunkers from All in the Family de-aged. Basically, conservatives are children lol
dm
Instead of platinum, the treasury should do a trillion dollar cryptocurrency offering.
Saves the trouble of actually designing a coin.
phdesmond
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
oh!!!!!!!!
why so it is!
HumboldtBlue
@phdesmond:
Those are child pictures of Carroll O’Connor and Jean Stapleton photoshopped onto Archie and Edith Bunker.
Old School
@HumboldtBlue: That’s amazing!
HumboldtBlue
The latest Jordan Klepper video.
West of the Rockies
I despise this piggy-pink, lipless, chinless chode.
Hungry Joe
Hard for me to accept that the billionaires and gobs-of-millions millionaires who run the GOP will allow Mitch and his Whole Sick Crew to torpedo the world economy. They might not go down with the ship, but any suggestion that they might be shunted from a first-class luxury stateroom to ordinary first class gives them the screaming fantods.
Maybe Dems should draw the line: “Just try it, assholes.” I bet Mitch & Co. would back down. And if they don’t, well, they weren’t going to under any circumstances. Worth a shot.
Major Major Major Major
Kent
Oh for Fuck’s sake. This isn’t really about McConnell. It is about Democratic wankery.
The Democrats could easily raise the debt ceiling or eliminate it all together by either:
1). Tanking the filibuster for this vote and passing it on a simple majority
2). Rolling the debt ceiling vote into their reconciliation package that only requires 50 votes.
Why aren’t they going to do the former? Because Manchin and Sinema would be shown to be even bigger wankers than they already are when they want to put the filibuster back for voting rights and other important stuff. And because turning the reconciliation package into a MUST-PASS piece of legislation OR THE ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE also takes away their ability to wank on the reconciliation package.
I honestly think McConnell is doing Biden and the loyal Democrats a huge favor here, by forcing them to handle the debt ceiling on their own. It either means tanking the filibuster, or turning the reconciliation infrastructure page into an absolute must-pass. Both of those takes power away from the centrist wankers.
MazeDancer
Maricopa County is tweeting that Biden won the Fraudit. By 99 more votes than their “official” tally.
Bill Arnold
@Cameron:
That’s what it’s about.
The Democrats will need to find a new parliamentarian.
McConnell and the Republican Party need to be destroyed. The GOP and its allies are killing 2000 Americans per day (OK, mostly Republicans, but they are Americans.). Being publicly OK with openly shiving America’s economy and worldwide financial reputation is another vivid example of how the GOP is an Enemy of the USA, and should be treated as such.
Kent
Those are two separate things entirely. The article you cited is a bank that is willing to accept bitcoin as payment on a mortgage that is denominated in dollars. In other words, you take out a $500,000 mortgage in dollars and the bank lets you make payments using bitcoin at whatever is the current exchange rate that day.
The current price of bitcoin is $44,000 so $500,000 is 11.36 bitcoin. No bank on the planet is going to write a 30 year mortgage on a house for 11.36 bitcoin at say 3% interest and take 360 monthly mortgage payments equal to 0.015 bitcoin for the next 30 years. Because they don’t have the slightest fucking idea what the value of bitcoin is going to be in 1 year, 5, years, 10 years, much less 30 years.
cain
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
I’m so glad you are vaccinated. After reading the Herman Cain Award and seeing so many kids become orphans. It’s just heartbreaking.
I hope that your son remembers and understands why this came to pass.
Mai Naem mobile
Mitch McConnell is such an evil piece of shit God doesn’t want him….asshole’s going to live forever.
Jackie
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: I’m so sorry your son has to deal with this. For HIS sake, I hope his Dad pulls through and becomes a vaccine convert.
Wyatt Salamanca
For the umpteenth time, Mitch McConnell is “the gravedigger of American democracy”.
h/t https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy
HumboldtBlue
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
That’s truly dreadful. All the love to you and your family.
Major Major Major Major
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: ugh, that’s awful, I’m so sorry.
randy khan
Forget McConnell. The results of the Arizona “audit” just came out and it found a net gain of 360 votes for Biden (+99 for him and -261 for Trump).
I laughed when I saw it. I’m only surprised in that I figured they would gin up something to make it come out the other way, but apparently they were too incompetent to even do that.
Tee hee.
Another Scott
McConnell doesn’t care that he flip flops and gets called on it. What we need to do is not fall for his framing and so forth. Ignore him.
We’ve been here before. Joe was there. I hope he learned the right lessons.
Wikipedia:
Yahoo from 9/20/2021:
So, there are differences this time. But there’s no incentive for the GQP to change their position this early.
I’m reminded that the US has very briefly defaulted in 1979:
Many, many things are different now.
Nancy and Chuck and Joe and Janet are smart. But they need to be thinking about how to do away with this abomination (the debt ceiling) to take this weapon away from the know-nothings who will destroy the world to rule in ruins… If past is prologue, then some sort of arrangement will be made with Biden and the Democratic leadership and a few GQPers (maybe even Moscow Mitch) to let everyone claim a bit of a victory. Alternatively, Nancy will pass whatever gets 50+1 in the Senate. But we’ll see.
Cheers,
Scott.
dmsilev
The Post got their hands on the CyberNinjas report:
ROFL.
NotMax
@randy khan
Ninjas faw down, go boom.
(Much as that data is nice to hear, I wouldn’t trust its source’s intrinsic credibility any more than if the numbers had been flipped.)
Steeplejack
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
God, that’s awful. Prayers for your son. ?
Another Scott
@NotMax: +1
We don’t want to give the impression that this was anything other than an abomination.
Cheers,
Scott.
phdesmond
@HumboldtBlue:
now i get it. thanks.
liked the Klepper episode you posted.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@NotMax:
@Another Scott:
@randy khan:
That AZ Ninja audit had me worried, not that’s not serious in and of itself, but it’s hilarious how it ended up a total nothing burger in effect. Like randy, I assumed if they didn’t find fraud they’d have just made it up
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Major Major Major Major:
Handsome guy! Always appreciate some cute Samwise pictures
randy khan
@NotMax:
Oh, I totally agree – I trust the original count more. I just think it’s hilarious that, despite their machinations and bizarro world ballot analysis they couldn’t even narrow the margin a bit. I mean, they had one job, and they actually did the opposite.
piratedan
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): as a resident of the state of Arizona, i can assure you that as a taxpayer we’re absolutely thrilled with this use of our tax dollars.
mrmoshpotato
Ummmm…….
HumboldtBlue
Pete Townshend. Pure genius.
Fair Economist
I’m sure the fraudit *did* twist the numbers for Trump. What happened is that the various voter supression measures the Republicans put into the election system had twisted them for Trump much more, and even a half-hearted ill-intentioned thorough audit was forced to unwind some of that.
NotMax
Mistakenly put this in the thread downstairs.
Well, that was different.
Stepped outdoors to quickly take care of something. Big menacing SUV parked in the driveway, two guys (uniformed but not police attire) with flashlights exiting it.
Politely asked me, “Do you mind if we park this here for a few minutes? We’re going next door to arrest your neighbors.”
Guessing they’re from the sheriff’s office.
Cameron
Just to return to the original post, let’s not forget that Mitch can’t do this by himself. All the Republican senators who go along with this shit are as bad as him. And I’ll bet every single one of them does.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Keep us posted on that.
mrmoshpotato
@Cameron: True, but I still want a steak burrito from a place a few miles south of me.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@NotMax:
That escalated quickly. Keep us informed
Ms. Deranged in AZ
All,
When my ex first got sick he exposed my son who in turn got it about two weeks ago. I brought my son back to my home as soon as I could and quarantined with him until the school said he could come back. Thankfully my son had only very mild symptoms and since we were very careful not to touch the whole time and my son wore a mask and I had been vaccinated, I avoided getting sick. But I was angry, so incredibly angry that my ex exposed our son to Covid.
The day of his 11th birthday my son’s quarantine was over and he was allowed to go back to school and we hadn’t hugged or any touch for two weeks. He hopped out of bed and ran to me, giving me a big hug and kiss. And I realized he had grown in that time because I no longer had to bend over to hug him! He really is a sweet, loving young man.
Anyway, his dad’s oxygen dropped below 90 after a week of being sick at home and he finally went to the hospital. I’m afraid it was too late though. He had blood clots, fluid in his lungs and was too weak. It’s hard to be mad at him now that he might be dying. But my anger at TFG and all the assholes profiting off of the pandemic lies is incandescent.
Thank you all for the well wishes. You guys are the best.
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato – Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Scurried back inside after completing what I went out to do. Dark out so cannot see any much of anything anyway. Other than checking later on that the vehicle is gone, there won’t be anything to report.
West of the Rockies
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
So, so much human misery because vain, stupid people refuse to admit they’re wrong. It’s staggering. I’m glad you and your son have each other.
mrmoshpotato
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: I’m sorry you’re going through this unnecessary crap. Hope everything turns out for the best.
mrmoshpotato
@NotMax: Fair enough. :)
a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio
@Major Major Major Major: Elegant!
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
As you’re a Noo Yawker now, did you see this from downstairs?
There’s been multiple sightings of naked men walking, jogging on the streets of NYC
NotMax
@mrmoshpotato
“If it isn’t one thing, it’s another.”
– Roseanne Roseannadanna
:)
Vehicle left the premises just 30 seconds ago.
.
Ksmiami
The Democrats need to abolish the filibuster, fire the parliamentarian and put the debt shit and the infrastructure plan in place. Remind Manchin and Sinema that the GOP would destroy the world as long as they get a bigger ash heap. This is ridiculous
Jackie
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: Hoping for the best for his son (and you – for your son’s sake) Many, many Hugs.
trollhattan
Tonight was our first theater experience since the second weekend of March 2020. Even if it was a bother to wear a mask throughout the performance (county regulations) it was wonderful. And everybody–audience, crew, cast—-was required to be vaccinated.
NotMax
@trollhattan
Separated seating for the audience or no?
trollhattan
@NotMax:
They said all seats were released for sale but the house was only 1/4 full, effectively low-density seating. (Of course seats sold were in clumps, but we adjusted on the go.)
The lobby bar was open. :-)
Martin
Unclear how this differs from the goals of the Jan 6 crew.
Jim Appleton
@NotMax: http://jimappleton.com/images/B2B/b2b.htm
MisterForkbeard
@MazeDancer: Even better, Trump LOST 200 votes in the fraudit count.
NotMax
@trollhtattan
Proof positive we have not yet descended into barbarism.
:)
Speaking of theater, if am awake when it pops up I’ve got some info and links regarding this Sunday’s Tony awards set aside for the morning thread.
MisterForkbeard
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I think they fucked it up enough early on (and both the local county and the DOJ basically warned them that they’d be sued into the fucking ground if they made anything up) that they’re going to go with this official count and then make a lot of noise about minor ‘irregularities’ to try and keep up the Trump faithful.
BeautifulPlumage
Just got back from my first live entertainment. Randy Rainbow on the first night of his tour. A packed Paramount Theatre & everyone vaxed or recent test. The masks didn’t keep us from hooting & hollering and having a good time.
It was an impulsive buy on Sunday, a single seat just a few rows from the stage. I splurged on the ticket. Very, very good time.
opiejeanne
@NotMax: Was the neighbor in question, a blight on the neighborhood or was this a surprise?
opiejeanne
@BeautifulPlumage: Randy Rainbow’s in town??? I would love to go and see him, if he’s still here for another performance.
Well, dang. He’s in Portland tomorrow.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
The Arizona Cyber Ninja trainwreck wasn’t even the first time that an audit/recount ended with a larger margin of victory for Biden, was it? I know it’s happened elsewhere, maybe not at a statewide level, but I get the distinct impression that whenever someone’s taken a closer look at the numbers, they’ve come out worse for TFG than even the initial losses.
As for Moscow Mitch, well, I figure heaven won’t have him and hell isn’t ready to take him. I’ve had multiple disagreements with my brother over whether McConnell or TFG is the greater threat to America. I say that if I were in an elevator with TFG, Cancun Cruz, Moscow Mitch, and a gun with two bullets, both TFG and Tailgunner Ted would walk out of the elevator without a scratch; he vehemently disagrees.
opiejeanne
@Bruce K in ATH-GR: Line them up and get two with one bullet, with one left for the third guy. It’s a solution that I only suggest logistically, not seriously.
MomSense
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
Sending my support to you. I’m so sorry.
Baud
@Ms. Deranged in AZ:
That’s truly awful. We know it happens, but it feels more personal when it hits the BJ family.
JPL
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: I’m so sorry for both you and your son. Please take care of yourself.
lowtechcyclist
@Major Major Major Major:
This. Manchin could agree that debt ceiling bills were no longer subject to the filibuster. They could put debt ceiling elimination in the reconciliation bill. They could mint the trillion dollar platinum coin. That’s three ways they could solve this ‘crisis’ all by themselves, and there are probably others that I haven’t heard about.
Now if they want to let Mitch filibuster the continuing resolution, as a Federal employee, I’m OK with that. I could use a small vacation.
NotMax
@opiejeanne
A surprise.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
I still hope that’s the game plan. But we have to endure the process before we get there.
SFAW
@NotMax:
Interesting how you neglected to tell them that you switched mail-box numbers* with those neighbors, “on a whim.”
* Or however they put house numbers in public view in HI.
SFAW
@lowtechcyclist:
How would you be able to tell the difference? You Feds work, what, 15 days per year?
J R in WV
@NotMax:
We all hope so. But if not, report what else happens!
brantl
@Ms. Deranged in AZ: Jesus, that’s tough, hang in there for your son.