Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

The revolution will be supervised.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

No Justins, No Peace

American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

I really should read my own blog.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

Putin dreamed of ending NATO, and now it’s Finnish-ed.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

I was promised a recession.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    Story at the Washington Post:

    Facing Black leaders’ anger, Biden condemns treatment of Haitians

    Because everything in the history of Joe Biden apparently leads us to believe that Biden would have no problem savage white men on horseback chasing Haitains with whips. //

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    15,000 refugees from Haiti.  Responded with a surge of resources to address humanitarian needs.  Families with young children.

    As of this morning, there are no longer any migrants in the camp under the bridge.

    Will explain what we have done and what we are doing.

    In the midst of meeting these challenges saw horrifying images.  Investigation into what occurred has not yet included.

    On-going battle against systemic racism.  Swift thorough response.

    Ceased the use of horse patrol units.  Agents have been assigned to administrative duties and have no interaction with grants.

    Office of Professional Responsibility are leading the investigation and will be concluded quickly.

    Let me be clear: the dept. does not tolerate any mistreatment of migrants and any violation of its principles.

  5. 5.

    Anon

    Our company network blocks ballonjuice site but doesn’t block foxnews. Anyone else have a corporate firewall block bj

  8. 8.

    Ken

    Logically, at this briefing the press should ignore the border and Haitians, and call out questions about the pandemic response.

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    Q: “Are you considering getting rid of mounted units permanently?”

    A:  Horse patrol can cross terrain that isn’t accessible otherwise.  Most often they assess the situation and help people in distress.  Still getting through the investigation.

  11. 11.

    Betty

    Policy from at least AIDS days has been to limit Haitian immigration. It was very glaring when at the same time Cubans were welcome.

  12. 12.

    The Moar You Know

    Our company network blocks ballonjuice site but doesn’t block foxnews. Anyone else have a corporate firewall block bj

    @Anon:  I administer my company’s IT and part of that is that I block pretty much everything. That would include Balloon Juice. The howling from users I get is from blocking Twitter and Facebook.

    If the owners/officers of the company want to pay people for jerking off online and not working, they can do that. They’ve elected not to do that.

    As the IT guy, I’m the exception to everything.

  14. 14.

    debbie

    Scrolling through Twitter while waiting for an oil change, there’s a lot of curiosity about Jason Miller’s recent visit with Bolsonaro, closely followed by thousands and thousands of Haitian refugees’ sudden appearance at the border.

    ETA: Just saw that photo was from March 2021, so never mind. But still, there’s a clear connection between Miller and this latest wave of refugees. Fuck them all.

  16. 16.

    Another Scott

    Meanwhile, … RollCall:

    “An alarming number of posts essential for our national security remain vacant because a handful of Republicans have decided to hijack the confirmation process and put a hold on not just a few but on many critical nominees,” Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer said on the floor Thursday.

    Schumer had been urged previously by fellow Democrats and outside experts to use his power to keep the Senate in session on nights and even weekends to break through the GOP holds, largely by Sen. Ted Cruz, and force votes on the nominations.

    “Today, we are going to have to take the long way to move forward with seven of the nominees currently on hold,” Schumer said. “If the irrational stonewalling by Republicans of these noncontroversial nominees continues, we may need to take this tedious exercise again and a greater magnitude.”

    The Senate confirmed, by an overwhelming 72-14 vote, Daniel Kritenbrink’s nomination to serve as assistant secretary of State for East Asia. Cloture was also invoked — by wide margins — on the nominations of five other assistant secretaries of State for Europe and Eurasia, Africa, political-military affairs, international narcotics and law enforcement, and oceans and international environmental affairs. Final confirmation votes could come as soon as next week.

    That the Senate had to spend hours — staying until nearly 10 p.m. — to process the nominations of just a small handful of dozens of President Joe Biden’s nominees for senior State Department positions and ambassadorships is because Cruz has been trying to make a point […]

    Senators don’t implement US foreign policy.

    Good, good. Make them show up, Chuck.

    Yet another illustration that the parties are both the same, and everything is horrible, and Chuck should be replaced, and we should donate to Moscow Mitch’s PAC to speed the ultimate collapse, and … (groucho-roll-eyes.gif)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  17. 17.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Anon:

    I have heard other commenters mention it, but usually in the context that a lot of sites are blocked, not Balloon Juice in particular.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    @Immanentize: I know that ICE and Border Patrol are different agencies.  I was appalled to hear the Secretary praise the wonderful people they have working in these areas.

    He made it sounds like a few bad apples, which I think is absolute horseshoe.

    I would love for every single enforcement officer to be let go and have to apply for their job.

  21. 21.

    rikyrah

    I know that I keep on harping on this, BUT……

    I feel for the plight of the Haitians too.
    But, this entire situation has made no sense from the beginning.
    How, did all these poor, desperate Haitians arrive at the Texas border AT THE SAME TIME. HOW, did they cross Central America, let alone come from Brazil, Chile, Peru ALL AT THE SAME TIME?
    WHY is this not a question being asked by the MSM, let alone folks in the Democratic Party who should know a setup when they see one.???

    How did they all arrive at the same time?
    Takes 8 hours by plane to get from Brazil to Texas – by PLANE.
    Longer for Chile and Peru, because they are even further away. Yet, they all happen to come together and arrive at the same time ???
    They all crossed the Panama Canal Zone UNNOTICED?
    We have satellites that monitor the Western Hemisphere, but, they just missed 15,000 people traveling together?

    WHAT’S APP?
    They supposedly got notified by What’s App?
    What’s App my Black azz

    Shyt don’t make NO SENSE.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    Dear BJ FrontPagers:

    The Vice-President of the United States comes within two minutes of being exposed to COVID, and that doesn’t warrant a frontpage post?

     

    Really?

  23. 23.

    MisterForkbeard

    @WaterGirl: I think the whole discussion is “where else would we send them if we’re not taking them?”

    Which is the point. If we’re accepting some of them but not all, what happens to the rest of them? Do we just… leave them on the doorstep?

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    @Another Scott:

    Schumer had been urged previously by fellow Democrats and outside experts to use his power to keep the Senate in session on nights and even weekends to break through the GOP holds, largely by Sen. Ted Cruz, and force votes on the nominations.

     

     

    When Schumer saw this was the road being taken, he needs to end this shyt.

    Phuck Senate tradition. Yet another thing that needs to go by the wayside.

  26. 26.

    germy

    @debbie:

    Evidence is piling up that Jason Miller organized a caravan of Haitian migrants from Brazil to create the “border crisis” that the GOP is talking about. Wouldn’t it have been easier to just do something about the border issues while they could?

    — Rex Zane (@rexzane1) September 24, 2021

  27. 27.

    germy

    If you're wondering why "Brazil" is trending, it's b/c some are wondering how 15k Haitian refugees, who had been in Brazil, ended up at the US/Mexico border at the same time.

    Conspiracy theories abound, but several center on Jason Miller being detained in Brazil a few weeks ago. pic.twitter.com/TWCoDIC0Dx

    — Fr. Robert R. Ballecer, SJ (@padresj) September 24, 2021

  29. 29.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @rikyrah:

    I’m with you on this. I am totally sympathetic to the Haitians’ plight, but, yeah, what you said.

    ETA: I mean, we were able to track all of those sinister caravans during the Trump years, right? ?

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    @rikyrah: Oh, you are talking about the hosts on The View who tested positive for Covid.

    I don’t know what there is to say about that except for “holy shit”.  What are you thinking about it?

  32. 32.

    debbie

    @germy:

    I hadn’t heard about Miller going to Brazil until today. It seems really obvious, but I know subtlety has no place in their playbooks.

  33. 33.

    Mike in NC

    Jason Miller is one of the Fat Orange Clown’s sleaziest henchmen. Congress must investigate his loser ass.

  34. 34.

    Betty Cracker

    @rikyrah: Can’t speak for anyone else, but what’s there to say about it except the system worked? I assume since this is a competent White House, anyone who comes within shouting distance of Biden and Harris has a highly accurate test administered beforehand, and if it’s positive, they don’t get near the VIPs. That’s how it’s supposed to work. The only reason we know about this is because it happened before a live TV appearance.

  35. 35.

    rikyrah

    @WaterGirl:

     

    Sunny Hostin and Anna  tested POSITIVE for COVID, RIGHT BEFORE THE VP was to appear on The View. They were pulled off the stage, and MVP did the interview from some sort of room off set.

  36. 36.

    Edmund Dantes

    @WaterGirl:  please tell the secretary is smart enough to not try the “they weren’t using whips, but the reins (or whatever they called it)”. Cause that was beyond fucking tone deaf.

  37. 37.

    Peale

    @germy:  yep. If you read the USA Today explainer, they start talking about Brazil and Chile like this is just normal. While I’m sympathetic to the Haitians who may have been lied to to coax them to come, they are most likely being paid as part of a stunt. So then no asylum, sorry.

  41. 41.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Anon:

    I used to eat Sunday brunch every week at a restaurant that blocked it, but I complained — politely but firmly — and they eventually changed something so I could catch up on BJ posts from the previous week (this was when I was still working).

  42. 42.

    Edmund Dantes

    @Baud: the difference between being whipped by reins and whipped by a whip isn’t really a distinction worth making.

    you state using any object to whip people is wrong. You don’t dissemble about whether it was ar-15 vs a long rifle. The problem wasn’t what type of gun they were using to shoot at people. It was the act of shooting that’s the problem. The act of whipping is the problem. Not the object they used.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    @Edmund Dantes:

    Like I said, I didn’t see it.  I don’t disagree with what you said, but your initial comment made it seem like he was correcting a false statement.

    ETA: I have not been whipped by either, so I don’t know if the damage is the same.

  44. 44.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Jonathan Weisman: With @SenatorSinema balking at corporate and income tax rate hikes, Democrats are looking at a potent but politically dicey new revenue raiser for their climate and social policy bill: a carbon tax, a potent tool against global warming but a huge gamble.

    Benjy Sarlin: The issue here is less the carbon tax than Sinema reportedly blocking the easiest and most popular consensus items on the D revenue sheet.

    (Cedric voice) Aw, hell, no!

  50. 50.

    Mj_Oregon

    @rikyrah: When the first bridge photos surfaced I thought it didn’t pass the smell test.  How in the world did all these people get there at the same time?  My immediate thought was that it was a set up by TFG’s people – and perhaps Abbott as well – to embarrass Biden and make parts of the electorate abandon the Democrats because of immigration “failures.”  The photos of Texas law enforcement vehicles all spread out in a line supposedly to insure against any more people coming in on their border smacks of collusion to me.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    Seems like the Secretary is getting dragged for the exact behavior we wanted under Barack Obama when things were not as they first appeared and Shirley–was-fired-because-someone-jumped-the-gun.

    He said he was appalled by the images but he is waiting until the review is done, which will be completed quickly.  He’s dotting the Is and crossing the Ts, just as he should be doing.

    Some bells can’t be un-rung.

  56. 56.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Baud:

    Aren’t we past that stage? They’re trying to drag this thing over the finish line, get it synced up with the House version, and Sinema is suddenly like: “I don’t like tail fins; we should have designed it with a spoiler.”

    Honestly, at this point I don’t remember what’s in what bill or exactly what stage they’re at. But this seems very late, is what I’m saying.

  62. 62.

    MisterForkbeard

    @taumaturgo: Fuck off, clown.

    Biden was right – Haiti has very little to do with US interests. When we accept refugees, it’s because we’re good humanitarians. And this has nothing to do with the question Watergirl asked anyway, because you’re a horrible person and a giant troll. And also, as noted, a clown.

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    @Ksmiami: You keep saying that, but she’s not up for reelection for years. I get that it makes you feel better to say it, but that doesn’t do a thing to solve the problem or find a way forward.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s what that commenter has been saying for days/weeks.  Or maybe months!  It feels like we have been talking about Sinema for years, even though it hasn’t been that long.

    The commenter believes that Sinema should be primaries.  But that’s something like 5 years down the road.

  72. 72.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Baud:

    Why even bring up “preferences” in this context? The progressives would also like an immediate green new deal and a bunch of other stuff that is not going to happen in this round.

  73. 73.

    germy

    @WaterGirl:

    Nancy Pelosi has been passionate for decades about improving healthcare for all Americans.  She’s had to deal with Republicans and conservative Democrats, as well as Fox News viewers who vote.

    My point was there are no quick fixes, politics takes time, and the struggle never ends.  And compromise is always part of the process.

  74. 74.

    Ksmiami

    @WaterGirl: then Schumer will go down as one of the worst, most ineffective Senate leaders in history. He has lots of tools to deal with recalcitrant d Senators. He should figure it the fuck out.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    So many cryptic comments in this thread.  Has there been a run on letters or words this week?  That hasn’t hit here yet, but maybe I need to stock up.

  80. 80.

    Ksmiami

    @WaterGirl: no I think she either gets bought off to come on board and support the Dem agenda or she gets an office in the bathroom. I’m sick of having to fight our own party leaders when we are facing an imminent fascist threat.

  83. 83.

    Ksmiami

    @Omnes Omnibus: then offer her a walk in closet of her dreams in her senate office and an unlimited Barney’s card but this public renouncement of the real work being done has got to stop

  84. 84.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Baud: You would think but plenty of commenters here are against them and carbon taxes poll abysmally. She seems to be trying to work in a poison pill that will grind everything to a halt. And, as others have said, for what? She doesn’t seem to have an agenda, or any demands for pork for AZ. She’s just being a dick to be a dick, apparently.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: No, I hadn’t.  I clicked on germy’s cryptic link and had no idea what the connection was.  I just don’t have the patience to watch a 5-minute video if I have no idea what the point is.

    I will click on yours now.

  88. 88.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: Then I’m an idiot, because I don’t understand what some guy singing Never gonna give you up has to do with this conversation.

    I guess I’m just out of sync with BJ today.

  91. 91.

    Ohio Mom

    @Ksmiami: I am pretty sure Barney’s went out of business. I have no problem with pranking Sinema by giving her a worthless credit card but I’d guess she would be on to this trick.

    On another note, I think it does make a difference if those goons were using reins or whips — whips imply they expected to stage a violent attack. Why else would you bring them along?

  93. 93.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Ksmiami: What makes you think that these things are not being done behind the scenes?    What good would it do to do it in public?  We want her votes not her humiliation or punishment.  That can mean making sure that she can climb down while saving face.  We have to remember the end result that we want.

  94. 94.

    Cameron

    @Omnes Omnibus: The trollypollyposter’s heavily edited video makes a point, but not the one that trollypolly thinks (The Apocalyptic, Now-Revealed Racism Of Joe Biden).  Biden’s 1994 argument was that Haiti’s problems didn’t involve America’s national interests.  That’s quite true – but Bosnia’s problems didn’t involve America’s national interests either.  That was a choice made to fuck with the Russians and show what giant stones we had.

    On a moral level, the United States owes a debt to Haiti probably more than it does to any other country we’ve fucked over.  USA has about a 200-year history of dicking Haitians.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    @germy: Well, in that case, how about this?

  96. 96.

    Ksmiami

    @Ohio Mom: then an endless supply of tacky Prada bags since she doesn’t actually care about governing- whatever works to just get her goddamn signature

  99. 99.

    Ksmiami

    @Omnes Omnibus: I hope you’re  right but so often it seems like Schumer and some of the old school Dem senators seem to think being the good guys without having a strong message can win out. They look like chumps and they are endangering our majorities as not getting shit done isn’t a good vote motivator

  100. 100.

    CaseyL

    @Ksmiami: She has the same value as Manchin: Ensuring a Democratic majority in the Senate.  Things would be much different if McConnell was still Majority Leader.  Yes, even with Biden’s agenda priorities being hung up.

    I’m not saying it’s optimal, or even acceptable. What I’m saying is that a GOP majority would be absolutely disastrous, utterly beyond description.  No confirmations of Biden nominees to anything at all, for starters.

  101. 101.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Did anybody watch, or was there even any coverage of, the Cyber Ninjas press conference about the Arizona audit at 4:00 p.m. EDT?

  102. 102.

    gvg

    @Baud: It looked like whips. the agents said it was just the reins. 1) it’s possible they used extra long reins in a planned plausible deniability idea, but I don’t care. It looked like whips, I consider it to be whips even if it was extra long reins.

    2) regular reins aren’t long enough. Also check if they are whipping the horses too when not on camera.

    3)those specific agents need to be fired.

  103. 103.

    Ksmiami

    @CaseyL: my question is then more meta- why do the Dems need to constantly battle their own while facing complete nihilism from the GOP? It’s just inexcusable and stupid

  110. 110.

    Ksmiami

    @Omnes Omnibus: no- it’s because the cosseted Senate has too much power and is too insulated from the Americans it is supposed to serve. It’s another American institution that’s outlived it’s usefulness

  112. 112.

    topclimber

    Maybe Dems don’t get very much of what  Biden wants now. The truth is we have to win the next 3 to 5 elections anyway. If we do there will be more chances to build back better and keep the aholes from tearing down whatever gets built.

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    @Ksmiami: I had to laugh at that.  Omnes is simply describing the reality that we live in – we can’t control what the Republicans do or what the courts do or what the media does.

    He’s not saying he likes it or that it’s right or fair.  It’s just the reality.

  120. 120.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Ksmiami: I am continually posting suggestions of things that people can do that can have an effect.  I simply don’t see the point of screaming do something and then asking for things that will be at most temporarily emotionally satisfying but are likely to be counterproductive for getting what we want.

  121. 121.

    Ksmiami

    @WaterGirl: the thing is we are going to have to take drastic action and possibly turn the chessboard upside down because it’s damn near impossible to be fighting on all those fronts. Hell we can’t even get out of a pandemic due to politics and disinformation even though there are multiple vaccines.

  122. 122.

    Ksmiami

    Furthermore if just having decent governance is this hard, maybe the system has stopped working; maybe it never really worked.

  126. 126.

    Ksmiami

    @WaterGirl: every election isn’t supposed to be an existential fight but that’s where we are. This isn’t healthy or sustainable for the nation at all.

  129. 129.

    sab

    @Cameron: Didn’t Bosnia’s problems involve holding NATO together, so it did have an impact our national interest. Of course a moot point after Trump rampaged through

    ETA Though I admit I was sort of on Clinton’s side with Haiti.

  130. 130.

    topclimber

    @WaterGirl: So climate legislation is part of a $2 trillion package over 5 years instead of 3.5 over 10.

    If we don’t have the votes to renew the spending in 5 years then it is because the GQP is back in the saddle. In which case we have lost the war.

    We can’t fall for beltway rules that say only winning everything at once counts.

  138. 138.

    Cameron

    @sab: That may well be true (my brain ain’t what it used to be).  But NATO lost its reason for being when the Soviet Union collapsed.  That was the time to beat swords to plowshares, and replace macho military posturing with boring diplomacy.  Alas, that entity that the old commie Dwight Eisenhower warned us about would not go gently into that good night.  (Sorry, I’ve been drinking.)

  140. 140.

    Captain C

    @Another Scott:

    Cruz has been trying to make a point

    If the point is that he’s an obstructive asshole, we get it.  He needs to stop, maybe go take a nice vacation in Cancun until about 2034 or later.

  141. 141.

    Ksmiami

    @raven: Others have suffered much worse; but truly the level of weaponized disinformation along with the rule or ruin Republicans is proving insurmountable.

  147. 147.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Cameron: The existence of NATO does not rule out diplomatic action.  Alliances can do that too.  But isolationists want to isolate.

  151. 151.

    RaflW

    The vote is secret, and should remain so. But if any of the mounted patrol folks donated money to Trump or the Trumpist campaign (or Jan 6th adjacent groups), they should be hounded out of the force.

  153. 153.

    debbie

    It’s the stupiding down of America that gets to me.

    Lol, Lauren Boebert wants to “Imeach” Biden. Stay in school kids, get your education!???? pic.twitter.com/7FznJZ1Yct
    — Amy Lynn?❤ (@AmyAThatcher) September 24, 2021

    I don’t know which is funnier, Lauren Boebert tweeting Imeach Biden, or her ???????? saying “cart blanc” ? pic.twitter.com/LEKNUfZ9Pq
    — EndtheMiserableGQP (@Endthemisery1) September 24, 2021

    And that’s just in the first five seconds of scrolling.

  158. 158.

    Cameron

    @Omnes Omnibus: I will ‘fess up to being an isolationist, at least as far as forming military alliances go that don’t have some very, very restricted guidelines.  I’m glad we’re in the UN and hope we continue to work on prospects to reduce war rather than promote it.  Sorry, but I see NATO primarily as a fig leaf to give a multinational veneer to American imperialism.  And I’m not even a lefty.  ETA: I’d rather do multinational trade agreements than multinational military alliances, wimp that I am.

  160. 160.

    SiubhanDuinne

    It was two years ago this very afternoon that I fell and broke my arm and sent my wrist galley-west. I did some live blogging of the event with you guys while waiting for the Aleve to kick in so I could get myself to the ER. Just went back to the thread and relived the moment.

    :-)

  164. 164.

    MomSense

    @rikyrah:

    Yeah I’m with you.  I feel for them and how desperate their situation is.  I also think there is some kind of fuckery involved.

  166. 166.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Relevant subthread to the thread above:

    Important thread. It’s like the “Biden’s crisis” media can’t connect the dots on 75% of Republicans believing Biden isn’t a legitimate president and Border Patrol being very Republican. And no doubt they are nostalgic for when Trump encouraged their worst practices.
    https://t.co/RoBgtiTJ8d

    — Schooley (@Rschooley) September 23, 2021

  167. 167.

    Another Scott

    @Steeplejack (phone): I heard a minute or so on C-Span Radio.

    The first thing was an introduction by a woman (almost verbatim) “this was not about overturning the election…” – sure.

    The next bit I heard was some “expert” on handwriting analysis talking about how he applied “science and engineering” to the problem of handwriting analysis… – sure.

    As others have noted, voter ID stuff was supposed to solve the problem of insecure elections, but the “problem” is seemingly 100x worse now.  Now, everything also needs to be “audited” to give us confidence that the “correct result” is obtained, even though their “audit” didn’t change the results in their favor.  Must do more audits!!1

    Funny how that works, isn’t it??…

    It’s not worth wasting time on, IMHO.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  168. 168.

    MomSense

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s a long standing internet tradition of which you must be unaware.  Also too you must be very very lucky because I’ve fallen victim to the Rick Roll MANY MANY times.

  169. 169.

    Starfish

    @Anon: At some point, we were the number one hit for “skullf*ck a kitten.” If you put the text in quotes, a lot of top hits on that phrase happen here.

    Also, the reason we can’t get fancy ads and get garbage ads is that people do not want to be associated with our swearing.

    @The Moar You Know: This choice as well as the choice to go with the minimum internet speed necessary to do the work was a reason that a place I worked had a lot of turnover.

  173. 173.

    taumaturgo

    @MisterForkbeard:Biden was right – Haiti has very little to do with US interests. When we accept refugees, it’s because we’re good humanitarians. And this has nothing to do with the question Watergirl asked anyway, because you’re a horrible person and a giant troll. And also, as noted, a clown.

    Mr. Fuckbeard canceling and calling me a clown while bending reality to accommodate the tribe narrative. Truly funny, in an insincere sort of way.

  174. 174.

    Geminid

    @Baud: U. Mass. economist Robert Pollin discusses the merits of a carbon tax in his excellent article in The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, “We Need a Better Green New Deal,” March 2019. Basically, Pollin thought that carbon taxes are not worth the political resistance when enforceable clean energy mandates can achieve the same result. Pollin has helped draw up several state clean energy programs using such mandates.

    I found Pollin’s article very illuminating. Another good Bulletin article is Miles Allen’s “The Green New Deal: a View From Across the Atlantic,” February 2019. Allen is a British climate scientist who contributed to the IPCC’s report of October 2018 that called for a carbon neutral world economy by 2050. Pollin’s article (actually an interview by a Bulletin editor) discusses problems the U.S. must solve to achieve that goal. Allen gives a more global view.

  175. 175.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    @sab:

    Oh yeah, fine now, thanks. The arm is a bit disfigured; nothing grotesque, however. It does tend to ache a bit when the weather changes, but I think that might be an advantage. Not quite a superpower, but a useful little quirk.

  178. 178.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Steeplejack (phone): The AZ audit itself is really sad. They’re explaining thing as “discrepancies” that have been known and explained for months because they’re standard.

    I don’t think they’re going to get anywhere.

  179. 179.

    MisterForkbeard

    @taumaturgo: Hello clown! I’m glad to see you’ve decided pie is a great thing.

    Just an FYI, everyone here thinks you’re a giant idiot. Mostly because you are. So it can really only go better from here on out for you, I guess.

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    debbie

    @Another Scott:

    The next bit I heard was some “expert” on handwriting analysis talking about how he applied “science and engineering” to the problem of handwriting analysis

    With what, his Ouija board? //

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    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Dan B:

    It’s not like there’s a hesitation to interview people who still support Trump and believe he won, but do those interviews in a cop bar and it raises all sorts of questions nobody wants to confront.

    — Schooley (@Rschooley) September 23, 2021

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    debbie

    @sab:

    I’d always assumed the Rick in rickrolling was Rick James. Googling has corrected that mistake. Learn something new every day, I guess.

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    J R in WV

    This is one of the more disappointing threads I’ve ever seen on B-J… I’m not sure who to blame besides the Republicans fomenting fear in everyone.

    Regarding the “audit” of Arizona’s MAricopa county ballots, obviously all those votes cast for Biden are bad wrong. Those assholes voted for the wrong guy!!! //s RWNJs for the lose.

    Took wife to the optical shop last Wednesday to order her new glasses since her cataract surgery. She has great distance vision, wants prescription glasses for close up. Sign on the front door says “Due to the Delta outbreak of CoronaVirus masks are required to enter this office!” So we are happy and go in wearing our masks.

    Next guy in is an older guy wearing his mask on his chin barely covering his mouth, nose completely uncovered. I ask reasonably politely if he couldn’s “Please pull his mask up over his nose to protect everyone in the office?” He thinks for a few seconds and says “No, I won’t! It makes it hard to breathe and fogs my glasses up!”

    And because you are a whiny titty-ass baby you think it’s OK to spread your potential fatal virus around everywhere you go? I wanted to pick up a chair and club him with it, but I pointed out he was endangering people without knowing their health issues. He sat right down beside a little girl way too young to get vaccinated also too. Grrr. Won’t ever get over that afternoon — still hoping he gets sick and dies.

    I’ve posted this before, will probably post it again until I forget how angry that bastard made me. He deliberately endangered my wife, who is totally disabled and has had part of a necrotic lung removed years ago, has little immune system left. GRRR!

  187. 187.

    MisterForkbeard

    @J R in WV: This drives me nuts. Do you know how you avoid getting your glasses fogged up? It’s really difficult, but… you push them half an inch further down your nose.

    I discovered this in my first 2 minutes wearing a mask. It’s not hard.

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