Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans don’t trust women.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself. We’re allowed to grow past that.

Nikki Haley, who can’t acknowledge ‘slavery’, is a pathetic shill.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

You cannot shame the shameless.

I’m starting to think Jesus may have made a mistake saving people with no questions asked.

Democrats are back in array!

I was confident that someone would point it out and thought why not me.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Can we lighten up on the doomsday scenarios?

There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you don’t.

It looks like winning debates is a black job!

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

We won’t go back.

Everyone is in a bubble, but some bubbles model reality far better than others!

Spilling the end game before they can coat it in frankl luntz-approved dogwhistles.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

I really should read my own blog.

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Open Thread: Women’s / Pregnant Peoples’ Rights Are Human Rights

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Good news, if (while) we can keep it. The country is not where it was in 1973; the revanchists are determined to make as many women suffer as they still can, but two generations of Americans have grown up assuming abortion was a normal part of reproductive health care, and two generations of medical research have improved our options for such care far beyond our twentieth-century imaginations. We should celebrate our wins as loudly as the forced-birth advocates celebrate theirs…

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  5. 5.

    Benw

    Dahlia Lithwick and the overexcitable Mark Joseph Stern had a good article over on Slate about how this ruling not only exposes the unconstitutionality and general shittiness of the Texas law but also dismantles the bad faith of the SC ruling.

  6. 6.

    debbie

    @debbie:

    Googlng around, I found what I’d half-heard: “Well, almost immediately, the Texas attorney general (Paxton, I assume) filed a notice of appeal in the case. They’re trying to get to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which is a very conservative court.”

  7. 7.

    Mike in NC

    If Republicans in more states pass these ridiculous laws, the party will end up on the trash heap of history. Good.

  12. 12.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    Not to pedant, but women are not the only people who can get pregnant and be subject to this assault on their bodily autonomy and human rights.

    Not sure exactly how to update the “women’s rights are human rights” slogan, but it feels dated and a little exclusionary these days. There are many trans men and non-binary folks (including one of my children) who will be harmed by the assault on abortion rights. The direct harm from this law is not exclusive to women.

    And don’t give me shit about whether this language will “play in Peoria” – I’m commenting on a left-leaning blog, not devising political comms strategy.

  16. 16.

    Scout211

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:

    In the Twitter thread that Scott posted at #1, Imani Gandy (AngryBlackLady) went through all of the Judge’s ruling and was impressed that the Judge used the inclusive words of “pregnant people,” “pregnant Texans,” “pregnant patients” throughout the ruling. I’m not sure AL is around to change the wording in the title of the post, but you make and excellent point. As did the Judge in his ruling.

    ETA:  what planetjanet said.

  20. 20.

    scav

    @oatler: She’s very likely full of it, but I entirely doubt it’s prayers.  Now, preying on others, that I might buy into as an element of her faith. Plus it being an informed decision as to her getting into a higher paid position on the current conservative gravey train.

  21. 21.

    debbie

    @oatler:

    Oh, screw her. Where is it enshrined that she has the right to pose a danger to others or the right to increase her employer’s health costs? Where does it say her rights supersede others’ rights?

  22. 22.

    JWR

    O/T but jeebus:

    In multiple calls, Trump claimed there was election fraud in Pennsylvania and Arizona — both states he lost — telling Rosen “people are saying” and asking the Justice Department to look into the rumors, according to the committee.

    “You guys aren’t following the internet the way I do,” Trump said at one point, according to both Donoghue and Rosen.

    I nominate “You guys aren’t following the internet the way I do” for a rotating tagline.

  23. 23.

    Gvg

    For the last 20 years I have been reviewing academic progress petitions at a Florida University. There are at least 2 generations of women now who have been taught how horrible abortion is and the imposed guilt can ruin happiness and careers. My generation wasn’t given the brain washing the more recent ones are. It is outrageous and that is how things got to this point. It isn’t just political, this has actually been seeping into families and society more than it was when I was young. There is a parallel society where families take for granted that women are equal human beings. They live next door to each other and don’t realize they are so different.

    This isn’t the only issue where I get my eyes opened about how different things are inside families, but I want to mention that even though many of the young think women have equal rights, not all women, young or not understand that they are being harmed by this propaganda about defending the poor helpless fetus always being what good girls do. The propaganda hooks them in with sympathy and kindness to “babies” and they don’t realize it totally discounts all their rights, feelings and dreams. They also get steered away from giving children up for adoption.
    They do seem to expect birth control though. The conservative propaganda doesn’t seem to have undermined that one as far as I can tell.

    but they don’t seem to know anyone who died in childbirth.

  25. 25.

    Bluegirlfromwyo

    @oatler: An apparently alternative fact news anchor taken off the air. Trying to find my tears and, nope, I’m running dry. Mississippi’s better off.

  28. 28.

    Anotherlurker

    @JWR: I second the nomination for including : “You guys aren’t following the internet the way I do.”  as a rotating tagline.

  29. 29.

    japa21

    OT, kind of. Mrs Japa and I got our flu vaccines today so we are set to go for the winter. Waiting for the Moderna booster to be approved, ad we’ll be first in line for that.

    Also, speaking of vaccination mandates; many of you know I work for the company that does that demonstrations in Costco. I received an email from headquarters today specifically related to possible mandates. They are waiting for the OSHA mandate to come out (don’t know why, they already know it is coming) but in the meantime they have set up a reporting process for employees to indicate their vaccination status and to upload copies of their proof of vaccination. They say they want to be ready for when the OSHA rule comes out. They also slyly said that if you participate in their medical benefits plan, no uploaded documentation means higher premiums. I cheered.

    I should also note that one of my co-workers did vote for Trump. But she isn’t a loud mouth and accepts the results. She also is furious at people that won’t wear masks or get vaccinated.

  30. 30.

    Chetan Murthy

    @Gvg:

    even though many of the young think women have equal rights

    Wry chuckle.  I remember when I was in my 20s, thinking that feminism had won, and we were just dividing up the spoils equally now.

    If there is one red line for me, it’s re-imposition of gestation slavery in my state.  I realize I can’t control or affect the nation as a whole, but I won’t see it happen in my state without putting up a fight.  [In 2022 I will send $$ to GOTV orgs in TX b/c of this abomination, so it’s not that I don’t think I cannot have *any* effect on this madness; just that I don’t think I can do much.  It’s Texas, after all [spit]]

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    Speaking of human rights, they just took a blow in northeast England after the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia — or more specifically its public investment fund (PIF), which has its hands in nearly every industry you can think of — was allowed to purchase ownership of one of the Premier League’s standard-bearing clubs, Newcastle United.

    Sportswashing at its best, the Saudis join Manchester City owned by Abu Dhabi and Paris Saint-Germain (French League 1) owned by the Qataris as the clubs with owners who have human rights records comparable to the Nazis.

  33. 33.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    @japa21: We’re in the same boat–got our flu shots, waiting for the Moderna booster.

    I’ve been wondering why my son’s employer hasn’t enacted a vaccine mandate yet, and your post helped me see that it’s probably waiting OSHA. The employer did the same thing about gathering data on their vaccination state.

     

    @Chetan Murthy: A whole lot of women have lived their whole lives with access to abortion and birth control. If that’s curtailed, they’re going to be shocked. As they should be.

  37. 37.

    Just Chuck

    @Anotherlurker:

    @JWR: I second the nomination for including : “You guys aren’t following the internet the way I do.”  as a rotating tagline.

    I second the seconding.  Which makes it a fourthing, right?  Anyway I threw it in the suggestion bin for our bloggerlord.

  40. 40.

    Sure Lurkalot

    My niece had a late term abortion in Texas some 18 years ago. Her uterus was segmented, the fetus was doomed and my niece’s health and maybe life was at risk.

    Many of these stories have good endings. Her uterus repaired, she went on to have two children, now self-absorbed teens, who I love nonetheless (and because so was I).

  47. 47.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @JWR:  It really oughta read

    You guys aren’t fouling the Internet like I do

    At least before TFG got his flabby butt banned.

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