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  2. 2.

    Ken

    “My fellow Americans, I have signed legislation that will outlaw COVID forever. The catch-vaccinate-release squads begin operations in five minutes.”

  3. 3.

    Scout211

    It will be good to get some clarification for those of us who are team Moderna or J&J.  One of my  daughters is a teacher and her district had several mass J&J vax clinics earlier this year.  All of those fellow teachers are looking for a booster.  Like right now.  Will they be allowed to get the Pfizer or Moderna?

  4. 4.

    Scout211

    @Ken:

    I have signed legislation that will outlaw COVID forever.

    You must mean by Executive Order.  Congress wouldn’t pass anything like that, right?  Too many congress people are far too beholden to their COVID donors . . .   ;-)

  5. 5.

    Brachiator

    Right now, I am not sure that there is solid evidence on the effectiveness of a booster shot. It seems more on the level of “Why not? It might help and can’t do any harm.”

    But emphasizing boosters is another way of encouraging the unvaccinated crowd to get their shots.

  7. 7.

    Ken

    @Scout211: I was riffing on Reagan’s inadvertent (?) attempt to trigger a nuclear exchange with the USSR.

    @Baud: Good point. Confine them in the FEMA camps for two weeks, so it’s easier to find them for the second dose.

  8. 8.

    The Moar You Know

    It will be good to get some clarification for those of us who are team Moderna or J&J.  One of my  daughters is a teacher and her district had several mass J&J vax clinics earlier this year.  All of those fellow teachers are looking for a booster.  Like right now.  Will they be allowed to get the Pfizer or Moderna?

    @Scout211:  It looks like the recommendation is going to be exactly that; if you had J&J, the “booster” is either going to be Pfizer or Moderna and possibly the full two-dose regimen of either one.  We shall see.

  15. 15.

    Felanius Kootea

    While it might not be anything new, it’s good to know that they are anticipating approval of the vaccine for children 5 – 11 and have already bought enough vaccines for those kids. So many parents will be relieved when their children can be vaccinated.

  16. 16.

    zhena gogolia

    What I read in the NYT today was that the FDA would be considering J&J on Friday. So I didn’t really expect anything about that today.

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    Meanwhile, in Alaska.

    October 14, 2021 at 10:43 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

    Alaska state Sen. Lora Reinbold (R), who was banned from flying on Alaska Airlines for refusing to wear a mask, and therefore unable to travel to and from the state capital, has now tested positive for the coronavirus, the Washington Post reports.

    Said Reinbold, in a Facebook post: “It’s my turn to battle Covid head on… game on! Who do you think is going to win? When I defeat it, I will tell you my recipe.”

    Anchorage Daily News: “Reached by text message, Reinbold said she is resting and improving quickly using a variety of products, including vitamins, a Vicks steamer and the antiparasitic medication ivermectin.”

    It would be unseemly to root for the virus; I shall limit myself to congratulating Alaska Air for not bending to this moron’s selfish wishes.

  19. 19.

    Suzanne

    @Felanius Kootea: Getting my kids vaccinated is absolutely top of mind for me. The approval for the 5-11s will get Spawn the Younger a vaccine. Next I need one for Spawn the Youngest.

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    @trollhattan:

    Anchorage Daily News: “Reached by text message, Reinbold said she is resting and improving quickly using a variety of products, including vitamins, a Vicks steamer and the antiparasitic medication ivermectin.”

    Wow. Stupidity has taken a deep hold here.

  22. 22.

    Gravenstone

    @Brachiator: But emphasizing boosters is another way of encouraging the unvaccinated crowd to get their shots.

    Unfortunately, no. The current argument in those quarters seems to run along the lines of “why should I get the shot if it doesn’t last?”. Not deep thinkers, these.

  23. 23.

    Gravenstone

    @Brachiator: I like the inclusion of the Vicks steamer. Implies to me she’s already dealing with breathing difficulties. Covid pneumonia, come on down!!

  25. 25.

    Cermet

    @trollhattan: I’m rooting for a toilet clog! Then let her giving runth over and spread through her house. The grift that keeps giving (and that she gets long covid.)

  27. 27.

    Ruckus

    @trollhattan:

    Unseemly?

    This virus can play a vital roll in the world, as all living things do. It may not be a glorious roll or even a positive one (there may be speculation of the positiveness or lack thereof in this particular case..) but it does play a roll in the thing we call life.

  28. 28.

    Dan B

    @Suzanne: It seems out of whack that I got my booster today and your kids are awaiting their first.  I appreciate thoroughness because unexpected side effects for kids could shut down vaccinations stat due to fear and resulting rumors.  But with a billion vaccines administered it seems nearly impossible that kids would have issues.  They’re already administered, what, a dozen vaccines?  Seems bureaucratic not cautious. It seems like a lot of ‘leaders’ covering their asses.

     

    No one at the booster shot site was asked to stay for 15 minutes afterward.  I drove to a friend’s house and hauled a couple loads of pots and pans up two flights of stairs and drove a half hour home.  Your kids could probably do gymnastics or trampoline afterwards.

  29. 29.

    Ruckus

    @Brachiator:

    Wow. Stupidity has taken a deep hold here.

    When  stupidity is all someone has, it will take a deep hold and a lot of pressure to escape it’s clutches.

  30. 30.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Gravenstone: I recall that in one of Luntz’s focus groups, any mention of boosters was one of the two big no-nos for his conservative vaccine-rejecters, the other being any mention of the demon Anthony Fauci.

  31. 31.

    trollhattan

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Wonder if they have the same cognitive dissonance when they fill the F-150. “Why I gotta buy gas; didn’t I just buy gas? Where’s mah freedom?!?”

  33. 33.

    Ruckus

    @Dan B:

    I had to stay the 15 min after my booster at the VA.

    The speed with which the vaccines were introduced has never been seen before, if I understand correctly. But there is a dramatic amount of medical knowledge out there in the world from the last 6 decades of medical advancement. The woman who worked on the concept of mRNA vaccines, did so for years, paving the way. And this organism seems particularly suited to mRNA technology. But it’s new, and it has never actually been seen before, so while you may be absolutely correct that with over a billion shots, and the very low rejection rate the kids may be better than fine. I’m glad they are being somewhat cautious. That’s far better than thinking that a horse dewormer will cure what ails you, when you don’t have worms – other than the ones in their tiny little brains.

  34. 34.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Dan B: Young kids are physically different. Getting the dose right is tricky. There were heart-inflammation issues with teenagers–fortunately mild, but scary enough that they wanted to be extra careful. I am actually wondering if it’d make sense to give the new kid dose to everyone under 20.

  37. 37.

    Suzanne

    @Dan B: The lack of kid vaccines freaks me out. They are still vulnerable. We had our second “COVID in school” notice of the year last week. Spawn the Younger is in 5th grade, and they are doing well with masking, but Spawn the Youngest is only two, and she has limited patience for it. So we are still really careful and not taking her to stuff. It sucks.

  38. 38.

    Dan B

    @Ruckus: Interesting the VA still wants a 15 minute wait.  My partner and I at two different Kaiser facilities were told we could leave unless we’d had anaphylactic shock or other immediate reaction.

     

    And I am not a horse, in case you were wondering…

  39. 39.

    Dan B

    @Suzanne: Caution can be good but we’re in a crisis and it seems like the bureaucrats are spooked by som heart inflammation cases more than fatalities and long term damage from getting Covid.  Our neighbors’ two year old seems very outgoing but seems suspicious of most everyone outside his immediate family.  He’s gotten comfortable with my partner and me, probably like our cats have gotten comfortable but still standoffish with our neighbors on both sides.  How many kids will grow up to be suspicious of “strangers”?

    Hang in there.  It does seem that kids under 5 are going to take months to get approved.

  41. 41.

    Ruckus

    @Dan B:

    I wasn’t. It actually never occurred to me that you might be a larger 4 legged animal with a hairy tail….

    Should I be worried?

  44. 44.

    Scout211

    So Moderna boosters are a go. Link

    All 19 members of the committee supported authorizing a 50-microgram booster dose — half the size of the 100-microgram doses used in the primary series of the two-dose vaccine — at least six months after the second dose, and only for certain groups: people age 65 and older; people ages 18 to 64 who are at high risk of severe Covid-19; and people ages 18 to 64 whose exposure to the coronavirus in their settings or jobs put them at risk for Covid-19 complications or severe illness.

  46. 46.

    Scout211

    @Mousebumples:

    not sure that that’s official

    You are correct.   I posted that link and then I read the whole article. Today was the first step and the same panel is meeting tomorrow on the J&J booster. Next week we should be hearing what the official recommendations are. Or the next week, maybe.

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